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conservatives to vote for Kerry - The Nation.
Tuesday, November 2, 2004 9:17 AM
GHOULMAN
Tuesday, November 2, 2004 10:27 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Tuesday, November 2, 2004 10:41 AM
HJERMSTED
Quote:The Nation has been Conservative Americas traditional source of news and commentary since 1865. http://www.thenation.com
Tuesday, November 2, 2004 10:50 AM
CREVANREAVER
Quote:Originally posted by Hjermsted: I always found The Nation to be quite progressive.
Tuesday, November 2, 2004 11:01 AM
Tuesday, November 2, 2004 11:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hjermsted: I always found The Nation to be quite progressive. Just curious... which definition of conversative are you using?
Tuesday, November 2, 2004 11:59 AM
DARKJESTER
Wednesday, November 3, 2004 3:09 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Victory at Sea -- for Someone By Al Kamen Wednesday, November 3, 2004; Page A13 Loop kudos today to two courageous groups -- one conservative, the other liberal -- who had the temerity to schedule major oceanic parties right after the election. One will be throwing a big celebration; the other will be watching members throw themselves into the sea. So top folks at super-lib magazine the Nation have scheduled their seventh annual, week-long Eastern Caribbean Cruise, setting off on Dec. 5 with stops in the Bahamas, St. Maarten and Tortola. Publisher Victor Navasky says a record of about 500 libs -- double the early years' efforts -- have forked over as much as $6,000 for two for the best accommodations to spend the time in deep contemplation of important socio-political matters with the likes of author Calvin Trillin, law professor Derrick A. Bell, and party animal authors Jonathan Schell, Molly Ivins and Robert Scheer. "If [Sen. John F. Kerry] loses," Navasky said, then the cruise "will be a constructive solidarity session," though at times solidarity in this crowd has been a scarce commodity. The first two or three cruises saw near-mutinies over whether there were enough women on the panels, drawing a comment from comedian Al Franken that almost sparked a riot. But this is Bush-hater central, and if President Bush wins, it might be best to put up netting to deter dives into the Caribbean. If things are not that dire, there still "may be a vote to take the next cruise to New Zealand," Navasky said, maybe check out some real estate opportunities. On the other hand, he noted, this is not a real pro-Kerry crowd. "There is a lack of enthusiasm for Kerry," he said, "largely because of his Iraq war statements. If he's elected and stays the course [in Iraq], there will be a very early disillusionment." Remember though, Navasky said, "these are vacations in the guise of seminars. People stay up too late and drink too much and some," though we find it hard to believe, "even gamble."
Wednesday, November 3, 2004 6:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by DarkJester: I'm sorry Ghoulman, but I believe you are mistaken on this one. The Nation is a progressive magazine with a strong liberal slant. It's where I first read Molly Ivins. They are big on social justice, rooting for the little guy and pointing out government corruption. They are non-partisan - they'll blast a Democrat as soon as a Republican for being stupid or for double-talk. But they are not conservative. Edited to add: Can I suggest reading this link ( http://thenation.com/thebeat/index.mhtml?bid=1&pid=1960) and checking out the description of their "The Beat" segment, located on the right of the page?
Quote:Even Republicans Fear Bush 10/31/2004 @ 10:01am The most divisive election campaign in recent American history has not merely split the nation along party lines, it has split the Grand Old Party itself. Unfortunately, most Americans are wholly unaware of the loud dissents against Bush that have begun to be heard in Republican circles. If the United States had major media that covered politics, as opposed to the political spin generated by the Bush White House and the official campaigns of both the Republican president and his Democratic challenger, one of the most fascinating, and significant, stories of the 2004 election season would be ...
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