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Trump's pro-Putin stance costing him with voters
Thursday, August 4, 2016 5:01 AM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Quote:The Pennsylvania numbers provide more evidence of how much trouble Trump's attitude towards Russia could hurt him. Vladimir Putin has an 8/70 favorability rating with Pennsylvanians, and Russia as a whole comes in at 12/54. By a 43 point margin voters say they're less likely to vote for a candidate if it's perceived Russia is interfering with the election to try to help them, and by a 23 point margin they say they're less likely to vote for a candidate seen as being friendly toward Russia.
Friday, August 5, 2016 8:08 AM
Quote: The number of pro-Putin positions that Donald Trump has taken has assumed quite remarkable proportions. He: 1. Wants to reduce America's commitment to NATO and reorient its activities to the Middle East. This is perhaps Vladmir Putin's greatest foreign policy desire. 2. Says America has no moral standing to complain about human and civil rights violations. 3. Welcomed Russia's incursion into Syria. 4. Considers Putin a great leader. 5. Would consider eliminating sanctions against Russia and recognizing their annexation of Crimea. 6. Wants to weaken American ties to its allies by insisting that he will walk away from them unless they pay us more for our military protection. 7. Never mentions Russia in his otherwise endless litany of countries that are taking advantage of us. 8. Opposes sending arms to Ukraine. 9. Is pro-Brexit. 10. Isn't sure he would defend the Baltics if Russia attacked them. Have I missed anything? I probably have. It's hard to keep track. Most of these are defensible positions on their own. I don't support sending arms to Ukraine, for example. Plenty of conservatives are pro-Brexit. And plenty of lefties would like to see us reduce our military footprint worldwide. But even if you personally agree with an item or three on this list, the whole thing adds up to something unprecedented for an American candidate for president. Donald Trump considers America at odds with virtually the entire world. He's based his entire campaign on this. At various times he's mentioned China, Mexico, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Germany, France, and the entire Pacific Rim. But never Russia. On the contrary, his list of positions toward Russia is basically Vladimir Putin's dream foreign policy. For a guy suffering under crippling sanctions, a tanking economy, low oil prices, and a demographic time bomb, Donald Trump is offering him everything he could possibly want. And what does Trump want in return? For Russia—and only for Russia—he wants nothing. As much as I loathe Putin, I'm not among those who now think Mitt Romney was right when he listed Russia as our #1 geopolitical threat. Conservative fearmongering on the subject leaves me cold. Nonetheless, this list is not a coincidence. There's something behind the scenes guiding it. But what?
Friday, August 5, 2016 5:34 PM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:The Pennsylvania numbers provide more evidence of how much trouble Trump's attitude towards Russia could hurt him. Vladimir Putin has an 8/70 favorability rating with Pennsylvanians, and Russia as a whole comes in at 12/54. By a 43 point margin voters say they're less likely to vote for a candidate if it's perceived Russia is interfering with the election to try to help them, and by a 23 point margin they say they're less likely to vote for a candidate seen as being friendly toward Russia. http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/08/clinton-has-narrow-lead-in-pennsylvania.html And this is in key swing state Pennsylvania. Ouch.
Saturday, August 6, 2016 8:27 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:The number of pro-Putin positions that Donald Trump has taken has assumed quite remarkable proportions. He: 1. Wants to reduce America's commitment to NATO and reorient its activities to the Middle East. This is perhaps Vladmir Putin's greatest foreign policy desire. 2. Says America has no moral standing to complain about human and civil rights violations. 3. Welcomed Russia's incursion into Syria. 4. Considers Putin a great leader. 5. Would consider eliminating sanctions against Russia and recognizing their annexation of Crimea. 6. Wants to weaken American ties to its allies by insisting that he will walk away from them unless they pay us more for our military protection. 7. Never mentions Russia in his otherwise endless litany of countries that are taking advantage of us. 8. Opposes sending arms to Ukraine. 9. Is pro-Brexit. 10. Isn't sure he would defend the Baltics if Russia attacked them. Have I missed anything? I probably have. It's hard to keep track. Most of these are defensible positions on their own.
Quote:I don't support sending arms to Ukraine, for example. Plenty of conservatives are pro-Brexit. And plenty of lefties would like to see us reduce our military footprint worldwide. But even if you personally agree with an item or three
Quote:on this list, the whole thing adds up to something unprecedented for an American candidate for president.
Quote:Donald Trump considers America at odds with virtually the entire world. He's based his entire campaign on this. At various times he's mentioned China, Mexico, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, Germany, France, and the entire Pacific Rim.
Quote:But never Russia. On the contrary, his list of positions toward Russia is basically Vladimir Putin's dream foreign policy. For a guy suffering under crippling sanctions, a tanking economy, low oil prices
Quote:and a demographic time bomb
Quote:Donald Trump is offering him everything he could possibly want. And what does Trump want in return? For Russia—and only for Russia—he wants nothing.
Quote:As much as I loathe Putin, I'm not among those who now think Mitt Romney was right when he listed Russia as our #1 geopolitical threat. Conservative fearmongering on the subject leaves me cold. Nonetheless, this list is not a coincidence. There's something behind the scenes guiding it. But what?
Wednesday, August 10, 2016 7:27 AM
Thursday, August 11, 2016 8:41 AM
Quote:A recent Government Accountability Institute (GAI) report exposed additional Clinton Foundation and State Department cooperation and pay-for-play during the Russian reset. In the Skolkovo debacle, 17 of the 28 participating companies from around the globe had either donated to the Clinton Foundation or sponsored Bill Clinton’s speeches. Skolkovo is a Russian foundation and technology park, intended to be a Russian version of Silicon Valley. While Mrs. Clinton’s State Department pushed for the Skolkovo initiative, her own foundation was being funded by both the Russians and Americans tied to the project. The report estimates that the foundation gained between $6.5 million and $23.5 million, because the Clinton Foundation only reports donations in ranges. The ties between Mrs. Clinton, her associates, and the Russians are blatant, but the mainstream media are more content to report on Donald Trump’s Russian contacts than those of the Clintons.
Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:21 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Thursday, August 11, 2016 2:16 PM
Saturday, August 20, 2016 6:08 AM
Saturday, August 20, 2016 8:46 AM
Quote:Yanukovych and Manafort had the same barber - the connection was so obvious it was ridiculous.
Saturday, August 20, 2016 9:36 AM
Quote:You're kidding, right? - SIGNY You're humorless, right? Can't tell you how little interest I have in replying to your posts, other than to tell you how little interest I have.-GSTRING
Saturday, August 20, 2016 10:20 AM
THGRRI
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Yanukovych and Manafort had the same barber - the connection was so obvious it was ridiculous. You're kidding, right? Yanno, you haven't even figured out the strategic effect of Trump's proposals. It's actually quite intelligent, and they attempt to reverse Obama's and Hillary's SIGNIFICANT strategic errors. So with that many clues, I'm going to let you think about it for a bit and see if you figure it out.
Saturday, August 20, 2016 10:52 AM
Quote:No Trump is advocating for the changes Putin prays for.
Friday, September 23, 2016 3:29 PM
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Friday, September 23, 2016 5:29 PM
Saturday, September 24, 2016 2:26 AM
Saturday, September 24, 2016 8:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Why do you keep running away from this thread? http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60755
Saturday, September 24, 2016 12:13 PM
THX
Saturday, September 24, 2016 12:24 PM
Saturday, September 24, 2016 12:59 PM
Saturday, September 24, 2016 1:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THX: Wishful thinking by the media. Understand this - we know the media is the enemy of normal Americans. They don't exactly hide their contempt for Americans - this is no secret. When they feign concern over some actions of someone like Trump it isn't going to be honest. They would happily guide him in to being a cucky globalist freak like Bush because that is not a threat to the Democrat candidate they back. If they say Trump is doing something that hurts *him* what they really mean is something that hurts *them.* Thanks to the alternative media the dinosaur media's ability to pull this off is waning. I would vote for Putin OVER Trump in a heartbeat. I bet he would be more popular here. Having a debate between Putin and Hillary...I'll be in my bunk.... LOL! People are ready for someone who holds the corrupt accountable. Not more of the same corruption from Hillary who is the queen of corruption.
Saturday, September 24, 2016 1:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by THX: This didn't take long to find: "Poll: Americans Like Vladimir Putin More Than Clinton, Trump" http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/25/poll-americans-like-vladimir-putin-more-than-clinton-trump/
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