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Processed food IS killing us, pt 2.

POSTED BY: WISHIMAY
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Sunday, March 27, 2016 9:25 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Mmm... KIKI, I like the idea of balanced one-pot meals. I'm looking forward to your recipes.

BRENDA, I happen to have a pork loin in the freezer and some V-8 in the frig. I think I'm going to try your recipe soon!

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Monday, March 28, 2016 6:48 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OK, one LAST recipe for now!

Spaghetti and meat sauce. What I do with this one is make the sauce really seasoned, almost like pizza sauce.

2 T olive oil
2 8-oz boxes mushrooms, washed, stem-bottoms trimmed (if necessary) and sliced

1- 1.25 pound ground turkey
1/2 jar low sodium pasta sauce
1.5 t garlic powder
1/4 t fennel
1/2 t dried oregano, or more
1/2 t dried basil, or 1/4 minced fresh basil
2 bags shiratake noodles, spaghetti style, or 1/2 pound noodles your choice, cooked

cook mushrooms in 2 T olive oil in flat pan until water is released and mostly dried, set aside

cook ground turkey in flat pan, crumble, drain fat if necessary
add pasta sauce, garlic, and fennel
cook low heat about 15 minutes
add dried oregano (and dried basil, if using dried basil) and mushrooms
cook another 15 minutes on low heat, or until thick
add fresh basil (if this is what you're using) and cook until basil is wilted and flavor released
toss in shiratake or cooked noodles of your choice

serve hot with sprinkled Parmesan, and salad or steamed green vegetable (broccoli, broccolini, asparagus, yu choi, etc) on the side


My family is EXTREMELY picky about food, and since they like these recipes a lot, I hope you'll like them too!


I recently heard of some people habitually adding or using as cooking fluid Sweet Vermouth.
Has anybody else heard of this? Any idea on how much works the best, or what way to infuse it?


Regarding the turkey stew, a restaurant which makes good soups nearby has a favorite called Chicken Pot Pie Soup which is incredible, and quite filling. I found some canned store products with that name, but they were extremely disapointing.

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Monday, March 28, 2016 7:57 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I love chicken pot pie but the starch, salt and grease are killers (literally).

I have to say I made the best turkey I've ever had, and then used it in the turkey pot pie stew. 1 fresh turkey (organic to avoid poly-phosphate plumpers, and not brined). I deboned it, cut it up into stew-sized pieces, put the neck, bones, wings and drumstick pieces on the bottom of a large dutch oven, the portioned-out thighs next and the breast pieces on top, covered it all with the skin, put on the cover and slow-cooked it at 250F for 4 hours. It was all perfectly done and plump and tender, just exactly the kind of turkey you'd like to see in a stew. Then I strained and skimmed the juice to make a base for the 'gravy', partly thickened with cooked pureed carrot, celery, and onion; and some rice flour, and a pinch of guar gum; cooked with fresh thyme, a small amount of salt (half a teaspoon for 12 servings), and fresh ground black pepper. Then I added in the veges.

Sigh. The only thing that could have made it better would have been dumplings simmering in the stew. But I refrained. I try to spend my carbs on veges, not starch or sugar.




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Tuesday, April 5, 2016 8:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I tried the sweet vermouth last night in my recipe, it did add flavor. I might add more next time.

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Tuesday, April 5, 2016 11:17 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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I recently heard of some people habitually adding or using as cooking fluid Sweet Vermouth. Has anybody else heard of this? Any idea on how much works the best, or what way to infuse it?
Never heard of that- it's intriguing. What I have found works in a lot of things is white wine. Yep, cheap white wine (around here, called Bay Bridge!)

It works in veggies, in works in tomato sauces, but what it REALLY works in is beef stew. Having been very disappointed in the red wine/ beef stew combo (too much tannin, too strong a flavor, plus the potatoes turn a weird color) I tried white wine in a whim, and it was excellent. Not more than 1/4 cup for a panful of veggies or 1/2c for a potful (4-6 servings) of stew.

Hey KIKI, I'm coming over for dinner!

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Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:10 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Last time I made polenta I was disappointed, it was bitter. So for my inside-out tamales (green bell peppers stuffed with chopped green bell, jalapeƱo and Serrano, with cooked grits and whey protein, stuffed with a 1 oz chunk of Monterey jack) I took whole dried cooking corn used for pozole and ground it up in my coffee mill. I haven't tasted it yet, but if it's good I'm not going to buy cornmeal any more.




SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Wednesday, April 6, 2016 6:44 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

I recently heard of some people habitually adding or using as cooking fluid Sweet Vermouth. Has anybody else heard of this? Any idea on how much works the best, or what way to infuse it?
Never heard of that- it's intriguing. What I have found works in a lot of things is white wine. Yep, cheap white wine (around here, called Bay Bridge!)

It works in veggies, in works in tomato sauces, but what it REALLY works in is beef stew. Having been very disappointed in the red wine/ beef stew combo (too much tannin, too strong a flavor, plus the potatoes turn a weird color) I tried white wine in a whim, and it was excellent. Not more than 1/4 cup for a panful of veggies or 1/2c for a potful (4-6 servings) of stew.


My favorite cheap white wine has been Thunderbird. But we used it for drink mixing, have not tried it for cooking yet. Sometimes very hard to find.

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Wednesday, May 18, 2016 6:17 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I recently met somebody who said things I have not yet wrapped my mind around.

She said that vitamins and minerals are not natural substances to be ingested via any form of supplement or beverage - they should only be consumed via "food" in whatever form that is defined.

I have difficulty considering that adequate supplies of vitamins and minerals can be consumed purely via "food" without incurring vast amounts of calories.

Is anybody familiar with this teaching, or practice, or philosophy?

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Sunday, October 23, 2016 12:47 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:


She said that vitamins and minerals are not natural substances to be ingested via any form of supplement or beverage - they should only be consumed via "food" in whatever form that is defined.

I have difficulty considering that adequate supplies of vitamins and minerals can be consumed purely via "food" without incurring vast amounts of calories.




Yeah, it's crap. My kiddo was having problems recently, so we had to get her blood tested, and it showed she has a "mal-absorption" problem in her intestines, so even though we eat plenty of foods with iron, she has a chronic iron deficiency... RBC are odd sizes, hemoglobin in cells is low...


Also, in another fun twist....my brother is starting to show signs of a sulfite overdose.

Fuckin' preservatives....

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Sunday, October 23, 2016 11:32 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


so even though we eat plenty of foods with iron, she has a chronic iron deficiency... RBC are odd sizes, hemoglobin in cells is low.

fwiw normal red blood cells under a microscope


and iron deficient red blood cells under a microscope; some are larger, some smaller, some full-looking, some empty, and ... not very many, either




Inability to absorb minerals like iron is one of the common signs of gluten intolerance.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Monday, October 24, 2016 9:10 AM

WISHIMAY


We already have sulfite intolerance, and unfortunately there isn't enough medical documentation to determine if that alone is causing it.
We still eat minor amounts of sulfites, as I refuse to give up onions and garlic, so that could be the cause.

We had considered cutting the amount of gluten because of hubbs' thyroid issue as it helps many of them, but cooking meals is already hard so trying to make them without wheat would be impossible. She'll just have to take a supplement.

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Monday, October 24, 2016 8:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I sympathize! As someone with a gluten intolerance I went through many ways of trying to adjust my cooking to reduce and eventually eliminate gluten. I could just give up a lot of it. But what I found I missed most was noodles and NY style bagels. Anyway, I'm not sure if you'd be interested, but I found it easier to find ways to just substitute other things in my normal cooking for wheat, oats and barley - rice or potatoes for noodles in soups and stews, and quinoa for oatmeal cereal. Corn as a starch side dish too. It's a pretty low-stress way to bit by bit try and adjust what you eat one dish at a time, rather than try to revolutionize your entire diet all at once.

But whatever you decide to do or not do, I 'wish' everyone improved health!




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Thursday, November 3, 2016 10:40 PM

WISHIMAY


We eat veggie noodles now, and oatmeal bread, so that takes it down a notch already.

Ironically, I have been having heart palps for a couple months and was terrified that I had blood clots again.....

Nope.

Something called "splenic-flexure syndrome" and it's happening because we have been eating more veggies that are ok with the sulfite intolerence, but tend to trap air at the top of the large intestine and irritate heart nerves. I see lots of Beano in my future.

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Friday, November 4, 2016 2:12 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


OH! I had that for years! For me it felt like a lead balloon under my liver. When the dx said it was gas I was very skeptical. But he sent me for a sonogram to rule out gall bladder, drew bloods to r/o liver and sent me to a dietitian to evaluate my dietary - ahem - roughage. I was eating two to three times more than recommended. And he advised me to cut down my fiber - which I very skeptically (that word again) did - et viola! - problem solved. Amazing! I think that was the first time I ever went to a doctor and they figured it out a directed me to do something that worked!




I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.

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