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Just talked with a friend in ENgland. He doesn't support any conspiracy theories, but he said no one he knows in Europe takes this "Assad did it" theory seriously. I think the false narratives have gotten out of control.

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Just talked with a friend in ENgland. He doesn't support any conspiracy theories, but he said no one he knows in Europe takes this "Assad did it" theory seriously. I think the false narratives have gotten out of control.

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I've never yet met a conspiracy theorist who thinks he's a conspiracy theorist.

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They see it as a conspiracy to label them a conspiracy theorist.

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Trump Unleashes Military Strikes: 59 Tomahawk Missiles Hit Syria - Live Feed

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As previewed earlier tonight, the United States fired a barrage of cruise missiles into Syria on Friday morning in retaliation for this week's alleged chemical weapons attack against civilians by the Assad regime, U.S. officials said. It was the first direct American assault on the Syrian government and Donald Trump's most dramatic military order since becoming president. According to NBC, only tomahawks missiles fired, no fixed wing aircraft involved, for now.

As AP notes, the surprise strike marked a striking reversal for Trump, who warned as a candidate against the U.S. getting pulled into the Syrian civil war, now in its seventh year. But the president appeared moved by the photos of children killed in the chemical attack, calling it a "disgrace to humanity" that crossed "a lot of lines."

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Just talked with a friend in ENgland. He doesn't support any conspiracy theories, but he said no one he knows in Europe takes this "Assad did it" theory seriously. I think the false narratives have gotten out of control.

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I've never yet met a conspiracy theorist who thinks he's a conspiracy theorist.

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Oh, it definitely is. The concept "conspiracy theorist" is an invention of conspirators. 9.11 was a conspiracy theory. The holocaust was a conspiracy theory. Our entire history is a long stack of conspiracies.

Did you know when Victor Gollanz broke the story of the story of the holocaust he was called a conspiracy theorist? by Time, and the New York Times. They're not about to admit that now. And, get this: after the story turned out to be true, and the Nuremberg trials were over, the same guy releases a story about the Soviets exterminating and expelling ethnic Germans in eastern europe. And the same media outlets jump up and said "Conspiracy theorist" again. 1947. It had been like 2 years since they had admitted he was right about the holocaust.

He was, of course, right. Again.

Without the conspiracy theorists, you get to live in a world without spying, terrorism, genocide, corruption and crime. It must be nice. It's a lie, but ignorance is bliss.

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Trump Unleashes Military Strikes: 59 Tomahawk Missiles Hit Syria - Live Feed

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As previewed earlier tonight, the United States fired a barrage of cruise missiles into Syria on Friday morning in retaliation for this week's alleged chemical weapons attack against civilians by the Assad regime, U.S. officials said. It was the first direct American assault on the Syrian government and Donald Trump's most dramatic military order since becoming president. According to NBC, only tomahawks missiles fired, no fixed wing aircraft involved, for now.

As AP notes, the surprise strike marked a striking reversal for Trump, who warned as a candidate against the U.S. getting pulled into the Syrian civil war, now in its seventh year. But the president appeared moved by the photos of children killed in the chemical attack, calling it a "disgrace to humanity" that crossed "a lot of lines."

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So 60 missles launched, 59 hit the target. Any word on the disposition of the 60th Tomahawk?

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He is one person SIG. Besides, there is nothing you post that I trust. I trust General Mattis who said Assad did it more than your liberal professor, who may have outside influences.-THUGR

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I've never yet met a conspiracy theorist who thinks he's a conspiracy theorist.

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He is one person SIG. Besides, there is nothing you post that I trust. I trust General Mattis who said Assad did it more than your liberal professor, who may have outside influences.-THUGR

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Sure! Instead of looking at, or for, evidence, let's go with unsupported allegations and make this an issue of "trust"!

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No, it's simple and all here can research it for themselves. I SIG I, post about what is in the mainstream news, online, papers, TV, any source that is reputable. You SIG you, post what the Russian perspective is on current events. And yes, Assads' perspective as well. Your favorite source is zerohedge. An online site where the writers and editors hide their identities.

You are absurd SIG. And outside this site in a normal setting, or amongst academics, you would be laughed out of the room.

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I, post about what is in the mainstream news, online, papers, TV, any source that is reputable.

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I've never yet met a conspiracy theorist who thinks he's a conspiracy theorist.- KPO

I am. I do.

If you're not a conspiracy theorist that only means that you lack intelligence and any imagination. [emphasis mine- SIGNY]

Whatever the worst thoughts you've ever had in that brain of yours, somebody else has already had them. Somebody else has dark thoughts are a 100 shades darker than yours too... and somebody else... and somebody else......

Now imagine those thoughts in the minds of people with Real Power. People who aren't tethered to "normality" that our modern society has made for us. How many people are clinical sociopaths? I've read studies that say that 1 in 25 are. I've also read a study that said as many as 1 in 4 prison inmates are sociopaths. This could suggest that when you exist in a "reality" that is very much different from the norm that the likelihood of sociopathic tendencies increases.

We live in a world where nothing is truly as it seems.

We're not living in a "New Age of Disinformation and Fake News".

We're simply waking up for the first time and looking around and realizing that it's all fake. It always has been. But that notion is far to scary for most people to entertain, so they just cling to one "side" or another, tune everything else out and surround themselves with like minded people in their echo chambers. - SIX

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I've never yet met a conspiracy theorist who thinks he's a conspiracy theorist.

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I am. I do.

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Props Six, and Sig, for embracing the label.

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I, post about what is in the mainstream news, online, papers, TV, any source that is reputable.

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That you believe this is your problem.

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“A senior administration official said Mr. Trump didn’t know about the weapon’s use until it had been dropped.”

“Mr. Mattis “is telling them, ‘It’s not the same as it was, you don’t have to ask us before you drop a MOAB,’” the senior defense official said. “Technically there’s no piece of paper that says you have to ask the president to drop a MOAB. But last year this time, the way [things were] meant, ‘I’m going to drop a MOAB, better let the White House know.’”

“There’s nothing formal, but it is beginning to take shape,” a senior U.S. defense official said Friday. “There is a sense among these commanders that they are able to do a bit more—and so they are.”

“While military commanders complained about White House micromanagement under former President Barack Obama, they are now being told they have more freedom to make decisions without consulting Mr. Trump. Military commanders around the world are being encouraged to stretch the limits of their existing authorities when needed, but to think seriously about the consequences of their decisions.”

“The more muscular military approach is expanding…”

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Yes, THUGR is True Believer. Facts mean nothing to him ... he believes in belief! He could be a flat-earther or a young-creationist or a alien abductee, because once a belief gets stuck in his brain, he has no way of cleaning it out, poor sod.

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Do you recognize how your brain spends most of it's time in the realm of fantasy. And what's with, "he believes in belief", What does that mean? It's moronic SIG, foolish and stupid. You poor sod.

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Just talked with a friend in ENgland. He doesn't support any conspiracy theories, but he said no one he knows in Europe takes this "Assad did it" theory seriously. I think the false narratives have gotten out of control.

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I've never yet met a conspiracy theorist who thinks he's a conspiracy theorist.

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They see it as a conspiracy to label them a conspiracy theorist.

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Oh, it definitely is. The concept "conspiracy theorist" is an invention of conspirators. 9.11 was a conspiracy theory. The holocaust was a conspiracy theory. Our entire history is a long stack of conspiracies.

Did you know when Victor Gollanz broke the story of the story of the holocaust he was called a conspiracy theorist? by Time, and the New York Times. They're not about to admit that now. And, get this: after the story turned out to be true, and the Nuremberg trials were over, the same guy releases a story about the Soviets exterminating and expelling ethnic Germans in eastern europe. And the same media outlets jump up and said "Conspiracy theorist" again. 1947. It had been like 2 years since they had admitted he was right about the holocaust.

He was, of course, right. Again.

Without the conspiracy theorists, you get to live in a world without spying, terrorism, genocide, corruption and crime. It must be nice. It's a lie, but ignorance is bliss.

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have you heard of the conspiracy theory that the Earth is not flat? Some sort of circle.

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Nope, JSF, you'll have to enlighten me with you wisdom

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Just talked with a friend in ENgland. He doesn't support any conspiracy theories, but he said no one he knows in Europe takes this "Assad did it" theory seriously. I think the false narratives have gotten out of control.

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I've never yet met a conspiracy theorist who thinks he's a conspiracy theorist.

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They see it as a conspiracy to label them a conspiracy theorist.

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Oh, it definitely is. The concept "conspiracy theorist" is an invention of conspirators. 9.11 was a conspiracy theory. The holocaust was a conspiracy theory. Our entire history is a long stack of conspiracies.

Did you know when Victor Gollanz broke the story of the story of the holocaust he was called a conspiracy theorist? by Time, and the New York Times. They're not about to admit that now. And, get this: after the story turned out to be true, and the Nuremberg trials were over, the same guy releases a story about the Soviets exterminating and expelling ethnic Germans in eastern europe. And the same media outlets jump up and said "Conspiracy theorist" again. 1947. It had been like 2 years since they had admitted he was right about the holocaust.

He was, of course, right. Again.

Without the conspiracy theorists, you get to live in a world without spying, terrorism, genocide, corruption and crime. It must be nice. It's a lie, but ignorance is bliss.

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have you heard of the conspiracy theory that the Earth is not flat? Some sort of circle.

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Nope, JSF, you'll have to enlighten me with you wisdom

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It took me a bit to find your reference.

OK, so don't tell anybody else, but those who want to have their heads separated from their necks have claimed that the Church may be wrong and not only is the Earth not flat, but it is also not the center of the universe. Rumor is they have proof.

And it's not my wisdom, it's from some blasphemer.

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Oh shit, tell me you guys don't think yourselves to be the Galileo Galilei's of the world. Shit, you are the nuts. Advances have always been made despite your being present, in a particular place or time.

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I wonder how Obama was able to fend off the Deep State for so many years, them being in charge of everything and all. You'd think we would have had biggly (sp) wars everywhere.

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I don't believe for a second that Assad did it. This isn't a fucking James Bond movie.

But by all means. Let's get rid of all of the secular leaders in the Middle East and let ISIS take over everything.

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The earth is flat.
The earth is the center of the universe.
The Holocaust never happened.
We never landed on the moon.
AIDS isn't a real thing.
Gene Hackman was the best Lex Luthor.

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Massive U.S. bomb's death toll rises to 94, Afghan official says

Afghan officials said Saturday that 94 militants were killed in a massive U.S. bomb blast targeting Islamic State’s regional affiliate, nearly three times as many as was reported a day earlier.

Ismail Shinwari, governor of Achin district in the eastern Afghan province of Nangarhar, where the 20,000-pound bomb struck Thursday evening, said there were no reports of civilian casualties.


The dead included several leaders of the Islamic State affiliate, which is loosely connected to the main militant organization based in Iraq and Syria, Afghan officials said.

http://www.latimes.com/world/la-fg-afghanistan-moab-20170415-story.htm
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I don't believe for a second that Assad did it. This isn't a fucking James Bond movie.

But by all means. Let's get rid of all of the secular leaders in the Middle East and let ISIS take over everything.

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Here we go again!?

On John Bolton's First Day, How Does US Respond To Syria?

Rep. Thornberry: Syria is a cauldron of security concerns
Fox

Syria airbase attack: "This is a confrontation between Iran and Israel on Syrian soil"

Glenn Greenwald on Syria: U.S. & Israel Revving Up War Machine Won’t Help Suffering Syrian Civilians
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In a recent meeting with the press, British ambassador to the United Nations Karen Pierce told reporters that it is absolutely unthinkable that the terrorist factions in the terrorist-held Syrian province of Idlib could possibly be planning a terrorist attack using chemical weapons with the intention of blaming it on the Syrian government.

Her reasoning? Since the Russian government has been warning of this possibility, the exact opposite must necessarily therefore be true....

So let’s recap: it is the British government’s official public position that the extremist jihadist factions who have been holing up in their final stronghold preparing for the long-awaited military confrontation in Idlib would have no incentive whatsoever to stage a false flag chemical attack in order to rally western reinforcements against the Syrian government and thereby escape defeat. Far more likely, in the British government’s estimation, is that the warnings of such an attack are a “smoke screen” to cover for the Syrian government’s plan to perpetrate its own chemical attack in order to accomplish the key strategic goal of suffocating a few dozen children. Oh yeah, and terrorists should be given safe passage to areas where they can safely regroup, because that’s the thing that you do with terrorists now.

Never mind that those terrorist factions would stand everything to gain and nothing to lose in a last-ditch false flag attempt to recruit powerful allies to their cause. Never mind that these are actual, literal terrorists who have no qualms about killing civilians in order to advance their cause. Never mind that US National Security Advisor John Bolton has already effectively guaranteed those same terrorists that the US and its allies will join in their aggressions against the Syrian government by publicly announcing that any chemical attacks will be met with the strongest retaliation yet. All of that is invalidated by Russians having said something about it, because if Russians say something, the opposite of what they said must necessarily be true.

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In the meantime, Assad has been accused (wrongly and often) of "gassing his own people" which led to TWO rounds of missile strikes against Syria, the first against a military airport and the second against a "chemical weapons facility" in Damascus which (as it turns out) had no chemicals in it at all. This last strike was prompted by a "gas attack" which was later found by OPCW not to involve chemical weapons at all.

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US Military Preparing For "Options" In Syria

Events are moving rapidly in Syria as Russian jets pound insurgent positions in Idlib Province and as the Syrian Army initiates a ground invasion which Damascus has described as coming in a "phased" approach.

The White House responded to the Syrian and Russian bombing campaign by vowing it would act “swiftly and vigorously” should chemical weapons be used, and a day ago claimed there's “lots of evidence” chemical weapons are being prepared by the Syrian forces, citing intelligence of such activities.

And now America's top general has confirmed the Pentagon is drawing up military options to attack Syria and is in currently in close discussion with the White House over the plans. Marine General Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff told reporters on Saturday during a trip to India, according to Reuters:

...he was involved in “routine dialogue” with the White House about military options should Syria ignore U.S. warnings against using chemical weapons in an expected assault on the enclave of Idlib.

President Trump has already ordered Tomahawk missile attacks on Syria twice, in the past 2 Aprils.

However, Gen. Dunford noted that no decision has been made to intervene militarily in response to Idlib.

“But we are in a dialogue, a routine dialogue, with the president to make sure he knows where we are with regard to planning in the event that chemical weapons are used,” he told a group of reporters.

Dunford added in reference to his talks with President Trump: “He expects us to have military options and we have provided updates to him on the development of those military options.”

Trump had previously bombed Syria twice after allegations that Assad ordered a chemical weapons attack — in April 2017 and April 2018 — the former was in response to a claimed sarin attack on Idlib.

White House officials have vowed to hold Assad responsible for any chemical attack allegations that emerge.

France also indicated last week that it too would respond with military force should chemical weapons be deployed.

When pressed by reporters over whether the US actually has intelligence to back its claims, Gen. Dunford responded, “I wouldn’t comment on intelligence at all, in terms of what we have, what we don’t have.”

Meanwhile in Idlib, some truly strange theatrics have already begun, with Al Jazeera depicting locals preparing paper cups, bags and cotton, which are somehow supposed to serve as "chemical protective" gear.

Nevermind that nerve agents are absorbed through the skin, or that a little cotton and charcoal can do nothing, it's all about setting the stage for a "provocation" in order to draw in US military intervention against Assad's forces.

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Meanwhile Russia has cited its own intelligence saying that Syrian armed groups in Idlib are preparing for a staged chemical provocation, which Moscow says the West will use to justify a strike against Syrian government forces.

Speaking to Newsweek ahead of this week's events, Syria analyst Joshua Landis said that there is every reason to doubt the veracity of past rebel claims regarding government chemical weapons usage — a surprising admission given his prominence as speaking from within the heart of the media foreign policy establishment.

Landis said, "I don't know what to make of the U.S. and Russian war of words over the potential use of chemical weapons in Idlib. The final reports on the use of chemical weapons in Ghouta were not definitive."

"There was no evidence found for the use of nerve agents, but controversy over the use of chlorine gas. The rebels had reason to carry out a false flag operation, as the regime and Russians suggested, but the regime refused to let U.N. inspectors in to test for chemical weapons until after a lengthy delay, which was suspicious," he concluded.

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U.S. Says Syria Plans Gas Attack in Rebel Stronghold
WASHINGTON—President Bashar al-Assad of Syria has approved the use of chlorine gas in an offensive against the country’s last major rebel stronghold, U.S. officials said, raising the prospects for another retaliatory U.S. military strike as thousands try to escape what could be a decisive battle in the seven-year-old war.

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US Says Assad Has Approved Gas Attack In Idlib, Setting Stage For Major Military Conflict
At this point there's not even so much as feigning surprise or suspense in the now sadly all-too-familiar Syria script out of Washington.

The Wall Street Journal has just published a bombshell on Sunday evening as Russian and Syrian warplanes continue bombing raids over al-Qaeda held Idlib, citing unnamed US officials who claim "President Bashar al-Assad of Syria has approved the use of chlorine gas in an offensive against the country’s last major rebel stronghold."

And perhaps more alarming is that the report details that Trump is undecided over whether new retaliatory strikes could entail expanding the attack to hit Assad allies Russia and Iran this time around. That's right, unnamed US officials are now claiming to be in possession of intelligence which they say shows Assad has already given the order in an absolutely unprecedented level of "pre-crime" telegraphing of events on the battlefield.

And supposedly these officials have even identified the type of chemical weapon to be used: chlorine gas.

The anonymous officials told the WSJ of "new U.S. intelligence" in what appears an eerily familiar repeat of precisely how the 2003 invasion of Iraq was sold to the American public (namely, "anonymous officials" and vague assurances of unseen intelligence) — albeit posturing over Idlib is now unfolding at an intensely more rapid pace:

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