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President Donald Trump entered office with a portfolio of untruths as broad and questionable as his real estate holdings. Obama was born in Kenya: Trump “had people down there and you wouldn’t believe what they’re finding.”
He lost hundreds of friends on 9/11. He saw thousands of Muslims celebrating the collapse of the Twin Towers. Ted Cruz’s father helped assassinate JFK based upon a photo in the National Enquirer of him
“having breakfast with Lee Harvey Oswald.”

The pace of the untruths has only accelerated with the broader platform of the presidency. The non-partisan fact-checking site Politifact found that 70 percent of Trump’s statements have been untrue, and 25 percent are some degree of false. One newspaper, the Toronto Star, is compiling a database of the president’s false statements, sortable by topic, such as “terrorism” “the economy” and “Russian ties.”

“The extreme unprecedented quantity of Trump falsehoods is why we started fact-checking everything he said” says Daniel Dale, Washington bureau chief for the Toronto Star. “Some remain difficult to explain.”

The paper found that Trump has made an average of two false statements per day. Here are some of the highlights:

“In just a short period of time, we’ve already added nearly one million new jobs.”

In fact: U.S. government figures say the economy added…a total of 581,000 jobs in Trump’s first four months in office.

“Obamacare, as one of the big insurance companies had said, is in a spiral. It’s in a death spiral. It is dead.”

In fact: We allow Trump rhetorical license to call Obamacare “collapsing” and even “exploding” though experts say neither is true. But it is plainly false to say the law is “dead.” While its marketplaces have problems, they are still functioning and providing insurance to millions; so is it’s Medicaid expansion.

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Trump has allegedly made 294 false statements as president

“I have just returned from a trip overseas where we concluded nearly $350 Billion of military and economic development for the United States, creating hundreds of thousands of jobs.”

In fact: The economic agreements Trump concluded on his nine-day trip to the Middle East and Europe will undoubtedly create some jobs, but there is no evidence that they might even possibly create hundreds of thousands. Most of the U.S. companies involved did not offer specific numbers; the “Washington Post” noted that “the only new jobs that have been announced will be in Saudi Arabia, where Lockheed Martin will employ 450 workers to manufacture Black Hawk helicopters.” Attempting to do the math, The New York Times could not figure out how the administration came up with its $350 billion figure.

“Those were Hillary votes. And if you look at it they all voted for Hillary. They didn’t vote for me. I don’t believe I got one. Ok, these are people that voted for Hillary Clinton.”

In fact: These large numbers of illegal voters did not “all” vote for Clinton because they do not exist.
Even if they did, it would be impossible for Trump to know that not a single one voted for him, since the ballot is secret. This claim is simply absurd.

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I recently came across an article in a local newspaper and it read like this:

The president’s exaggerations have been listed.

Dateline: June 15, 2017

Byline: Michael Martin, Metro.US

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President Donald Trump entered office with a portfolio of untruths as broad and questionable as his real estate holdings. Obama was born in Kenya: Trump “had people down there and you wouldn’t believe what they’re finding.”
He lost hundreds of friends on 9/11. He saw thousands of Muslims celebrating the collapse of the Twin Towers. Ted Cruz’s father helped assassinate JFK based upon a photo in the National Enquirer of him
“having breakfast with Lee Harvey Oswald.”

The pace of the untruths has only accelerated with the broader platform of the presidency. The non-partisan fact-checking site Politifact found that 70 percent of Trump’s statements have been untrue, and 25 percent are some degree of false. One newspaper, the Toronto Star, is compiling a database of the president’s false statements, sortable by topic, such as “terrorism” “the economy” and “Russian ties.”

“The extreme unprecedented quantity of Trump falsehoods is why we started fact-checking everything he said” says Daniel Dale, Washington bureau chief for the Toronto Star. “Some remain difficult to explain.”

The paper found that Trump has made an average of two false statements per day. Here are some of the highlights:

“In just a short period of time, we’ve already added nearly one million new jobs.”

In fact: U.S. government figures say the economy added…a total of 581,000 jobs in Trump’s first four months in office.

“Obamacare, as one of the big insurance companies had said, is in a spiral. It’s in a death spiral. It is dead.”

In fact: We allow Trump rhetorical license to call Obamacare “collapsing” and even “exploding” though experts say neither is true. But it is plainly false to say the law is “dead.” While its marketplaces have problems, they are still functioning and providing insurance to millions; so is it’s Medicaid expansion.

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Trump has allegedly made 294 false statements as president

“I have just returned from a trip overseas where we concluded nearly $350 Billion of military and economic development for the United States, creating hundreds of thousands of jobs.”

In fact: The economic agreements Trump concluded on his nine-day trip to the Middle East and Europe will undoubtedly create some jobs, but there is no evidence that they might even possibly create hundreds of thousands. Most of the U.S. companies involved did not offer specific numbers; the “Washington Post” noted that “the only new jobs that have been announced will be in Saudi Arabia, where Lockheed Martin will employ 450 workers to manufacture Black Hawk helicopters.” Attempting to do the math, The New York Times could not figure out how the administration came up with its $350 billion figure.

“Those were Hillary votes. And if you look at it they all voted for Hillary. They didn’t vote for me. I don’t believe I got one. Ok, these are people that voted for Hillary Clinton.”

In fact: These large numbers of illegal voters did not “all” vote for Clinton because they do not exist.
Even if they did, it would be impossible for Trump to know that not a single one voted for him, since the ballot is secret. This claim is simply absurd.

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That's past falsehoods. In the present Trump makes big, clear promises on health. Trump is betraying all his health care promises. It’s out in the open. And it’s a huge deal.

Pence speaking Tuesday offered reassurance that nothing has changed, promising only “historic flexibility to reform Medicaid in ways that will best serve the most vulnerable in their communities” and thanking the HHS staff for the “leading role in making the best health care system in the world even better.”

The only problem is that it’s all lies. Trump’s health care plan doesn’t protect Medicaid, it loots it to finance hundreds of billions of dollars in tax cuts. The new “flexibility” it gives to states will ensure that the most vulnerable are the most hurt. In addition to slashing the Medicaid rolls by millions, the Trump health care plan will see millions more lose coverage, and the remainder will face higher premiums for plans that cover less.

There’s nothing remotely terrific about it, unless you happen to be one of the small number of high-income Americans who can expect to reap a large tax cut paid for by the suffering of millions of newly uninsured people. It’s an enormous con perpetrated on people Trump duped into believing they were in on the scam.

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/16/15807806/trump-breaking-heal
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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I recently came across an article in a local newspaper and it read like this:

The president’s exaggerations have been listed.

Dateline: June 15, 2017

Byline: Michael Martin, Metro.US

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President Donald Trump entered office with a portfolio of untruths as broad and questionable as his real estate holdings. Obama was born in Kenya: Trump “had people down there and you wouldn’t believe what they’re finding.”
He lost hundreds of friends on 9/11. He saw thousands of Muslims celebrating the collapse of the Twin Towers. Ted Cruz’s father helped assassinate JFK based upon a photo in the National Enquirer of him
“having breakfast with Lee Harvey Oswald.”

The pace of the untruths has only accelerated with the broader platform of the presidency. The non-partisan fact-checking site Politifact found that 70 percent of Trump’s statements have been untrue, and 25 percent are some degree of false. One newspaper, the Toronto Star, is compiling a database of the president’s false statements, sortable by topic, such as “terrorism” “the economy” and “Russian ties.”

“The extreme unprecedented quantity of Trump falsehoods is why we started fact-checking everything he said” says Daniel Dale, Washington bureau chief for the Toronto Star. “Some remain difficult to explain.”

The paper found that Trump has made an average of two false statements per day. Here are some of the highlights:

“In just a short period of time, we’ve already added nearly one million new jobs.”

In fact: U.S. government figures say the economy added…a total of 581,000 jobs in Trump’s first four months in office.

“Obamacare, as one of the big insurance companies had said, is in a spiral. It’s in a death spiral. It is dead.”

In fact: We allow Trump rhetorical license to call Obamacare “collapsing” and even “exploding” though experts say neither is true. But it is plainly false to say the law is “dead.” While its marketplaces have problems, they are still functioning and providing insurance to millions; so is it’s Medicaid expansion.

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Trump has allegedly made 294 false statements as president

“I have just returned from a trip overseas where we concluded nearly $350 Billion of military and economic development for the United States, creating hundreds of thousands of jobs.”

In fact: The economic agreements Trump concluded on his nine-day trip to the Middle East and Europe will undoubtedly create some jobs, but there is no evidence that they might even possibly create hundreds of thousands. Most of the U.S. companies involved did not offer specific numbers; the “Washington Post” noted that “the only new jobs that have been announced will be in Saudi Arabia, where Lockheed Martin will employ 450 workers to manufacture Black Hawk helicopters.” Attempting to do the math, The New York Times could not figure out how the administration came up with its $350 billion figure.

“Those were Hillary votes. And if you look at it they all voted for Hillary. They didn’t vote for me. I don’t believe I got one. Ok, these are people that voted for Hillary Clinton.”

In fact: These large numbers of illegal voters did not “all” vote for Clinton because they do not exist.
Even if they did, it would be impossible for Trump to know that not a single one voted for him, since the ballot is secret. This claim is simply absurd.

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Wow. Still listing liberal lies as truth?

Well, at least that list is about a tenth of Hilliary's list.

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So-called "unbiased" fact checkers at PolitiFact exposed as nothing but paid stooges for the Democratic Party.

Funny how the Democrat rates a higher "truth rating" than the Republican for saying the same thing.



http://www.allenbwest.com/matt-palumbo/noted-fact-checker-ignites-soci
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You'll never catch Republicans checking facts. They just don't bother.

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It use to be "better mouse trap" "be smarter" Now it's "lie better, sooner, more often."

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You'll never catch Republicans checking facts. They just don't bother.

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That's the *break though* thinking we're learning from Trump and Putin: "Just Lie! Don't waste your time thinking too much!"
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Of course you do.

It's because you fail to either realize or admit that Democrats are just as guilty of this behavior as Republicans that I cannot take you seriously.

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Every time Kikinuts goes on a bezerker rant about Dems I wonder who the hell she's talking to. Maybe herself?

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I can only go by what I've witnessed in the last 6 months. Everything you say is so far from the left side that I can only imagine that you have a permanent residence there.

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That's you: "quick! Put people in boxes so I don't have to think too hard!" Come on, dude. You have all damn day to think things through. If you're smart enough to rehab a house you're smart enough for this stuff. Here's the first one:

1. Just because someone wants to vomit at the thought of Trump as president doesn't mean they're a liberal. This might break your brain, but it's actually easy to hate both parties AND hate Trump. Every time Kikinuts goes on a bezerker rant about Dems I wonder who the hell she's talking to. Maybe herself?

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You didn't understand a single thing did you? So, if a person hates Trump according to you, they are automatically a Liberal? And a Democrat? SJW? AAA member? How does it work in Boxland?

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You didn't understand a single thing did you? So, if a person hates Trump according to you, they are automatically a Liberal? And a Democrat? SJW? AAA member? How does it work in Boxland?

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I understand completely the way you're trying to spin yourself.

Hating Trump does not put you automatically in the Liberal camp. I hated GWB and I was not a Liberal. I hated Obama and I was not a Republican.

It's why you hate Trump. It's all the other things you've said in here in the last 6 months. Everything you say puts you in that box.

Here's a test. Is the gender wage gap in America a problem today?

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I have absolutely no idea. I haven't looked the subject over at all, I have done zero reading about it and I have never mentioned it here, so weird test though I'm not surprised. Let me guess: that makes me a Liberal!

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Of course you are right, and believe me I keep telling myself that very thing. Maybe it's because I don't have kids I think I'm being generous and helping him actually learn something, but that's just goofy on my part.

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Of course you are right, and believe me I keep telling myself that very thing. Maybe it's because I don't have kids I think I'm being generous and helping him actually learn something, but that's just goofy on my part.

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I'm not your son and you sure as hell ain't my daddy. Feel free to end any sense of parenthood post haste.

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Done! I pretty well knew it was for nothing. FWIW Siggy still wants to be your mamma - enjoy!

No hard feelings in the end - fine if there are, what are you going to do? FYI I never thought of you as a pos, just "still searching."

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It's because you fail to either realize or admit that Democrats are just as guilty of this behavior as Republicans that I cannot take you seriously.

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You'll never catch Republicans checking facts. They just don't bother.

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It use to be "better mouse trap" "be smarter" Now it's "lie better, sooner, more often."

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Every time Kikinuts goes on a bezerker rant about Dems I wonder who the hell she's talking to. Maybe herself?

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No, I'm talking to the numbnuts on the board, like you. Hope and change! Dem party affiliation hit a high on 2008 Nov 13-16 at 39%. Now it's 28%. Dems and leaners are now tied with repubs and leaners. As recently as 2012 it was 53/36.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

The dem party is the zombie party, rotting away and leaving chunks behind as it shuffles and snuffles through the political landscape.

And here's the thing. I'm a registered democrat. This was the first presidential election I specifically voted against the democrat. Because that neo-con war-monger and corrupt corporatist whore Hillary was the ordained democrat candidate.

Talk about a brainless move.

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You'll never catch Republicans checking facts. They just don't bother.

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It use to be "better mouse trap" "be smarter" Now it's "lie better, sooner, more often."

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Yes, 1000% agree

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Of course you do.

It's because you fail to either realize or admit that Democrats are just as guilty of this behavior as Republicans that I cannot take you seriously.

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Ya know, I just notice I didn't respond to your post......allow me to retort...

Well, I guess the days of you taking me seriously, have certainly come to a middle!

Ha! see what I did there? I brought it full circle...

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Republicans are aware of the facts, facts by definition don't need checking - only Libtard Facts need checking, because they are the opposite of facts.
Libtards try to check facts because they are allergic to facts and despise facts unless they themselves created the "fact" for dissemination.

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Republicans are aware of the facts, facts by definition don't need checking - only Libtard Facts need checking, because they are the opposite of facts.
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Really, thank you for that rousing explanation of "Just the facts, ma'am," it was very illuminating.

By the way, What's a Libtard?.......just curious!

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Do you know what a hamplanet is?

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I dunno... I heard Milo say it once on the Joe Rogan show and thought it was funny.

They were having a discussion about how most of the hot women in the US are Republicans and the ugly ones tend to be Democrats.

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Nah... he was the gay Republican that could get away with saying anything until he took it too far and ruined himself by saying some dumb shit about pedophilia.

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I dunno... I heard Milo say it once on the Joe Rogan show and thought it was funny.

They were having a discussion about how most of the hot women in the US are Republicans and the ugly ones tend to be Democrats.

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Republicans are aware of the facts, facts by definition don't need checking - only Libtard Facts need checking, because they are the opposite of facts.
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Really, thank you for that rousing explanation of "Just the facts, ma'am," it was very illuminating.

By the way, What's a Libtard?.......just curious!

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I've mentioned this around here before, but essentially a Libtard is one who can normally process thought adequately, with the massive exception of when facts conflict with their delusional Liberal beliefs - and then their capacity for rational and critical thought and reason, logic are squashed or thrown out the window.

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I dunno... I heard Milo say it once on the Joe Rogan show and thought it was funny.

They were having a discussion about how most of the hot women in the US are Republicans and the ugly ones tend to be Democrats.

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Like Pantsuit Canckles vs. Alaska Gov?

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I dunno... I heard Milo say it once on the Joe Rogan show and thought it was funny.

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Nah... This was more in the context of voters.

Democrats have become the party for the people who feel depressed and worthless and want handouts and everything they do is based on "feels" instead of facts.

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No, I'm talking to the numbnuts on the board, like you. Hope and change! Dem party affiliation hit a high on 2008 Nov 13-16 at 39%. Now it's 28%. Dems and leaners are now tied with repubs and leaners. As recently as 2012 it was 53/36.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx

The dem party is the zombie party, rotting away and leaving chunks behind as it shuffles and snuffles through the political landscape.

And here's the thing. I'm a registered democrat. This was the first presidential election I specifically voted against the democrat. Because that neo-con war-monger and corrupt corporatist whore Hillary was the ordained democrat candidate.

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Do you truly feel that the decline in the Dems was due to reduction of followers in the past 9 years? Or do you think the decline is a result of former followers being shunned by the Dem machine since then, or since 2006? How much do you think it was one, or the other, or something else?

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