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Open war has now essentially broken out between Israel and Syria. Israel confirms through its IDF spokesperson that it has carried out "a large scale attack" consisting of at least a dozen strikes on Syrian and Iranian military targets inside Syria.

What we previously described as Assad's strategic "waiting game" and reluctance to respond to repeat Israeli violations of Syrian airspace while launching unprovoked attacks appears to be over as Syrian air defense has shot down an Israeli F-16 fighter jet near the Golan border region in what is a major escalation in the conflict.

Though details remain murky and are still developing, Israel has confirmed that its F-16 jet has crashed in Israeli territory after it was struck carrying out operations targeting locations in Syria. The IDF spokesman quickly stated in a tweet confirming the shoot down that "Iran is responsible for this severe violation of Israeli sovereignty."

.... Beirut-based Al Masdar News reports that the incident occurred at approximately 6:30 A.M. Saturday morning (local time) and that the Israeli F-16 fighter was hit while flying within Syrian airspace near Damascus.

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Netanyahu flew to Moscow to meet with Putin.

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Well, THUGR, according to those who keep track of such things, Netanyahu has met with Putin ELEVEN times!

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1kiki just stated Netanyahu flew to Russia to speak with Putin. She did so in this thread which is meant to imply he just went. Again 1kiki, cites.

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Re-checked - it was a phone call.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-israel-putin/p
utin-urges-netanyahu-to-avoid-escalation-in-syria-ifax-idUSKBN1FU0Z6

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I consider the matter closed. A retraction is always honored. One never knows when one will have to do the same.

Now, why did Russia do nothing. And didn't Russia ship the Russian S-400 Air Defense Missies to Syria? I guess they didn't work huh? Half of Syria's air defenses gone in one shot, and no planes shot down. All while Russia is sitting, watching this happen. What a great ally huh.

Perhaps Russia can only fight women, children and poorly armed civilians huh.

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For the first time ever, an Israeli jet was shot down. Israel needs to rethink whether it still has air superiority.

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You're kidding right? Or is that a real attempt to save face for Russia?

Either way, sad

Air supremacy is a position in war where a side holds complete control of air warfare and air power over opposing forces. And that my fried would be Israel and the U.S. The Russian air force watched these two raids from the ground. I would add, from inside bunkers.

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Cites? Or just more of your usual lies?

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

For the first time ever, an Israeli jet was shot down. Israel needs to rethink whether it still has air superiority.

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You're kidding right? Or is that a real attempt to save face for Russia?

Either way, sad

Air supremacy is a position in war where a side holds complete control of air warfare and air power over opposing forces. And that my fried would be Israel and the U.S. The Russian air force watched these two raids from the ground. I would add, from inside bunkers.

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Me again

Now you want cites. There was no air battle dummy, cite that. Unless you want us to believe Russia did assist Syria. With the results being what they were I doubt you want to make that claim.

Do you? OH please tell me you do.



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Originally posted by 1kiki:
For the first time ever, an Israeli jet was shot down. Israel needs to rethink whether it still has air superiority.

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You're kidding right? Or is that a real attempt to save face for Russia?

Either way, sad

Air supremacy is a position in war where a side holds complete control of air warfare and air power over opposing forces. And that my fried would be Israel and the U.S. The Russian air force watched these two raids from the ground. I would add, from inside bunkers.

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Cites? Or just more of your usual lies?

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Now you want cites. There was no air battle dummy, cite that. Unless you want us to believe Russia did assist Syria. With the results being what they were I doubt you want to make that claim.

Do you? OH please tell me you do.

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Cites? Or just more of your usual lies?

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

For the first time ever, an Israeli jet was shot down. Israel needs to rethink whether it still has air superiority.

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Me

You're kidding right? Or is that a real attempt to save face for Russia?

Either way, sad

Air supremacy is a position in war where a side holds complete control of air warfare and air power over opposing forces. And that my fried would be Israel and the U.S. The Russian air force watched these two raids from the ground. I would add, from inside bunkers.

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Me again

Now you want cites. There was no air battle dummy, cite that. Unless you want us to believe Russia did assist Syria. With the results being what they were I doubt you want to make that claim.

Do you? OH please tell me you do.




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Originally posted by 1kiki:
No Israeli jet has ever been shot down at any time or place, until two days ago.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-iran/israeli-jet-shot-down-a
fter-bombing-iranian-site-in-syria-idUSKBN1FU07L

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Cites? Or just more of your usual lies?

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

For the first time ever, an Israeli jet was shot down. Israel needs to rethink whether it still has air superiority.

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Me

You're kidding right? Or is that a real attempt to save face for Russia?

Either way, sad

Air supremacy is a position in war where a side holds complete control of air warfare and air power over opposing forces. And that my fried would be Israel and the U.S. The Russian air force watched these two raids from the ground. I would add, from inside bunkers.

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Me again

Now you want cites. There was no air battle dummy, cite that. Unless you want us to believe Russia did assist Syria. With the results being what they were I doubt you want to make that claim.

Do you? OH please tell me you do.






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Subterfuge kiki. Your post is nothing more than an attempt to duck the questions. So I'll ask them in a very decisive way.

1 How did Israel take out half of Syria's Russian made defense systems in one shot. And not lose a single jet while doing it?

2 Where were their Russian ally's during both attacks?

3 Finally, how can you even suggest that with these results Israel doesn't enjoy air superiority over Syria? Even when the Russian air force is there in strength.

As I've said, it looks like Russia is good for killing women, children and unarmed civilians and not much more. Add to that protect others who gas them.

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Do you have a question or a particular point you want to discuss?

Because there is no question an Israeli jet was shot down. Which leaves me puzzled as to your repeated reposts. Because why would you question something so easy to prove?

Israeli jet shot down after bombing Iranian site in Syria
Reuters-Feb 10, 2018
JERUSALEM/BEIRUT (Reuters) - Anti-aircraft fire downed an Israeli warplane returning from a bombing raid on Iran-backed positions in Syria on Saturday in the most serious confrontations yet between Israel and Iranian-backed forces based across the border.
Syria shoots down Israeli warplane as conflict escalates
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-iran/israeli-jet-shot-down-a
fter-bombing-iranian-site-in-syria-idUSKBN1FU07L
BBC News-Feb 10, 2018
Benjamin Netanyahu blames Iran and Syria after jet shot down, says ...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43014081
ABC Local-Feb 10, 2018
Syria claims its air defenses shot down Israeli fighter jet
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-10/israeli-f-16-fighter-jet-shot-do
wn-by-syria,-military-says/9419280
International-The Jerusalem Post-Feb 9, 2018
Israeli PM: Airstrikes dealt 'severe blows' to Iran, Syria
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Syria-claims-its-air-defens
es-shot-down-Israeli-fighter-jet-542193
In-Depth-CNN-Feb 10, 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/10/middleeast/israel-military-jet-crash/in
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Netanyahu told Putin he will attack Syria whenever it suits him.

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I take it you don't have specifics, either.

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Try reading a news paper. Or don't Russians read, and just lie instead?

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Israel says its airstrikes took out half of Syria's air defenses

Israel estimates that it destroyed nearly half of Syria's air defense system in a retaliatory air force sortie after one of its F-16 fighter jets was shot down by a Syrian missile, according to a military assessment provided to local news media Sunday.

http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-israel-iran-20180211-sto
ry.html

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he has spoken with Russian President Vladimir Putin about the latest developments in the region.

Netanyahu says Saturday that he informed Putin of Israel's intention to continue defending itself against any aggression and to prevent Iran from establishing a presence "in Syria or anywhere else."

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2018-02-10/the-latest-israe
l-says-pilot-seriously-wounded-in-crash

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4 jets sent, 1 downed
claims it destroyed 'half' of air defenses - whatever that means

strikes were reported around Damascus and southern Syria - other stories indicate new anti-aircraft defenses were just established in northern Syria

It looks like they're ging to have to deploy more in the rest of Syria now.

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Cites and sources kiki. Then explain to us what the cowardly Russians were doing while all this was taking place? Also, why the Russia made defense system sucks so bad.

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U.S. Kills Russians in Syria Strikes, Reports Say

Recent U.S-led coalition airstrikes targeting forces supportive of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad killed a number of Russians fighting on behalf of the Syrian leader, according to associates of the slain fighters and independent researchers.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-kills-russians-in-syria-strike
s-reports-say/ar-BBJ3mxx?li=BBnbfcL

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Try reading a news paper. Or don't Russians read, and just lie instead?

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Israeli jet shot down after bombing Iranian site in Syria
Reuters-Feb 10, 2018
JERUSALEM/BEIRUT (Reuters) - Anti-aircraft fire downed an Israeli warplane returning from a bombing raid on Iran-backed positions in Syria on Saturday in the most serious confrontations yet between Israel and Iranian-backed forces based across the border.
Syria shoots down Israeli warplane as conflict escalates
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-iran/israeli-jet-shot-down-a
fter-bombing-iranian-site-in-syria-idUSKBN1FU07L
BBC News-Feb 10, 2018
Benjamin Netanyahu blames Iran and Syria after jet shot down, says ...
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43014081
ABC Local-Feb 10, 2018
Syria claims its air defenses shot down Israeli fighter jet
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-10/israeli-f-16-fighter-jet-shot-do
wn-by-syria,-military-says/9419280
International-The Jerusalem Post-Feb 9, 2018
Israeli PM: Airstrikes dealt 'severe blows' to Iran, Syria
http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Syria-claims-its-air-defens
es-shot-down-Israeli-fighter-jet-542193
In-Depth-CNN-Feb 10, 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/10/middleeast/israel-military-jet-crash/in
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Didn't you mean OOPS?

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cartoons ... that's the level of THUGR's understanding.

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Bored comrade sig and am passing time. I'm waiting for kiki to answer my questions. We both know that ain't gonna happen, but it's documented for posterity. For future generations sig.

Hey, perhaps Yale and or Oxford, can research our conversations in real world for a study. You know, about how the biased, those who troll and Russian bots collaborated here.

Yet despite this collaboration, when they were debated by mainstream folk, honest folk, their propaganda was picked apart, proven wrong. Without doubt this study would show these honest folk destroyed all the purveyors of the fake and spiteful. By simply sticking to the facts time proved them right time and time again.

What do ya think comrade troll? I'm excited just thinking about it, how about you?


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cartoons ... that's the level of THUGR's understanding.

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Bored comrade sig and am passing time. I'm waiting for kiki to answer my questions. We both know that ain't gonna happen, but it's documented for posterity. For future generations sig.

Hey, perhaps Yale and or Oxford, can research our conversations in real world for a study. You know, about how the biased, those who troll and Russian bots collaborated here.

Yet despite this collaboration, when they were debated by mainstream folk, honest folk, their propaganda was picked apart, proven wrong. Without doubt this study would show these honest folk destroyed all the purveyors of the fake and spiteful. By simply sticking to the facts time proved them right time and time again.

What do ya think comrade troll? I'm excited just thinking about it, how about you?

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Didn't you mean OOPS? - KIKI

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No Israeli jet has ever been shot down at any time or place, until two days ago.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-iran/israeli-jet-shot-down-a
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eta: that was information as of the 10th. Some stories have since caveated the claim - appears to be ... believed too be ...

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Did you end up with further info? I don't find any more mired amongst the troll posts in this thread.

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Did you end up with further info? I don't find any more mired amongst the troll posts in this thread.

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No. I googled - israeli jet shot down syria - and under both the general google search and the 'news' option, there weren't any more news articles beyond the 11th. So, no new information.

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