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FILM THREAT'S FRIGID 50: THE COLDEST PEOPLE IN HOLLYWOOD 2004 (1-10)
by the Film Threat Staff
(11/23/2004)


1. MICHAEL MOORE
Well, the results of the Presidential election are in and the controversial documentary Fahrenheit 9/11 did not derail a second Bush term. Michael Moore’s box office smash did two things: it mobilized like-minded Americans in a bid to vote a Democrat into office, and it galvanized the opposition in a bid to re-elect Bush. Bush won.

There are a lot of Democrats out there that would just like to say – thanks a lot! MICHAEL!

And now Michael’s alleged “limousine liberal” ways are being exposed in a new documentary entitled “Michael Moore Hates America.” (Incidentally, “Michael Moore Hates America” received a coveted "Thumbs Up" from Roger Ebert when it was reviewed on his program.) The film (hitting theaters in limited release) features regular schlub Mike Wilson who seeks out Moore in an effort to question the controversial filmmaker’s techniques. All Wilson wants is to interview Michael – and ala “Roger and Me,” Moore completely disses the young filmmaker, evading his request for an interview and berating him at a public event. In one particularly damning sequence, Wilson exposes that in Bowling for Columbine the sequence in which the gun is received from the bank was completely stage-managed. The bank employees reveal how Michael set up the entire scene.

“Michael Moore Hates America” takes a hard look at Moore’s methods while dissecting the documentary form itself. It’s a doc that tackles ethical issues when reality gets in the way of a political agenda – and all the while the film remains highly entertaining. Kind of like Michael Moore’s movies…

But, hey, look on the bright side; no Presidential candidate endorsed by Michael Moore has ever won an election. So, Michael, why not endorse a Republican in 2008, just to see what happens? You never know, it might work! But do we really need a sequel to Fahrenheit 9/11?

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Anti-Freeze: Remember, it’s not always about you. Lose the chip on your shoulder. Really. Morgan Spurlock beautifully attacked McDonald’s in the funny, clever and factually accurate Super Size Me.” You could learn something from that approach; you used to do that so well yourself.

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Originally posted by Skywalken:
Click on these highly informative sites.

http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com
http://www.moorewatch.com
http://www.moorelies.com
http://www.michaelmoron.org
http://www.bowlingfortruth.com

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:

It's telling that Americans so fear the truth they consistantly attack those who's opinions they don't like... never the opinion.

Typical.

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:

It's telling that Americans so fear the truth they consistantly attack those who's opinions they don't like... never the opinion.

Typical.

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This is a prime example of why I call you Troll, Ghoulman. WHAT THE F*CK DID THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE TOPIC?!?! Let alone, what constructive discussion could come from that shitty comment?

NADA, ZIP, ZERO..

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:

It's telling that Americans so fear the truth they consistantly attack those who's opinions they don't like... never the opinion.

Typical.

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This is a prime example of why I call you Troll, Ghoulman. WHAT THE F*CK DID THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE TOPIC?!?! Let alone, what constructive discussion could come from that shitty comment?

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Connerflynn - attacks are the topic here.

Sorry you can't get that.

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I still can't figure out why I let a little kid get my ire up LOL. Henceforth I shall not feed you Sir Troll.

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I still can't figure out why I let a little kid get my ire up LOL. Henceforth I shall not feed you Sir Troll.

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Dude, this is exactly what Ghoulman is talking about. Instead of addressing his point, you're name-calling like a kid on the playground. He stated very civilly that people who don't like Michael Moore's ideas consistently attack him personally and say stupid things like 'MichaelMooreHatesAmerica' instead of talking about his opinion and trying to disprove it. May I suggest that a more honest approach, if you really do disagree with what Moore is saying, would be to call Mr. Moore out on facts he has wrong and site sources to back yourself up, so you look knowledgeable and well-read.

Right now? Not so much.


There is no such thing as a weed.

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Originally posted by Ghoulman:

It's telling that Americans so fear the truth they consistantly attack those who's opinions they don't like... never the opinion.

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This is a prime example of why I call you Troll, Ghoulman. WHAT THE F*CK DID THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE TOPIC

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Originally posted by Connorflynn:
In one particularly damning sequence, Wilson exposes that in Bowling for Columbine the sequence in which the gun is received from the bank was completely stage-managed. The bank employees reveal how Michael set up the entire scene.

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It's telling that Americans so fear the truth they consistantly attack those who's opinions they don't like... never the opinion.

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This is a prime example of why I call you Troll, Ghoulman. WHAT THE F*CK DID THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE TOPIC

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You posted a link to Michael Moore bashing pages. QED.

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In one particularly damning sequence, Wilson exposes that in Bowling for Columbine the sequence in which the gun is received from the bank was completely stage-managed. The bank employees reveal how Michael set up the entire scene.

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And this is why people in the rest of the world tend to think most americans are barely functioning retards: OF COURSE IT WAS STAGED - that was bloody obvious from the movie - what the hell did they expect? That we see several weeks of real time?

The only point that matters is: Can you get a gun from the bank - and the answer is yes.


*Shakes head in sadness*

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It's telling that Americans so fear the truth they consistantly attack those who's opinions they don't like... never the opinion.

Typical.

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This is a prime example of why I call you Troll, Ghoulman. WHAT THE F*CK DID THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE TOPIC?!?! Let alone, what constructive discussion could come from that shitty comment?

NADA, ZIP, ZERO..

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Originally posted by Geezer:
I can't figure out which is funnier: Michael Moore taking himself so seriously, or all the other people taking him so seriously?

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I can't figure out which is funnier: Michael Moore taking himself so seriously, or all the other people taking him so seriously?

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So we should be taking Bush and friends seriously, instead?

I'm a former US oil company employee. Michael Moore raises some serious questions which 50% of Americans choose to mock instead of logically debate.

I've one thing to say about this, however: your country, not mine. Glad to see it going down the gutter.

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Of course, if you like your opinions pre-packaged, so you don't have to do any of the work yourself, Mr. Moore's probably fine for you. Your "glad to see it going down the gutter" comment tells me where you're really coming from. Just another in the long line of America haters. Yawn.

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Originally posted by KevinIanBeaumont:


Of course, this sentence completely contridicts itself. I'm an America hater? I worked for a US company. For years. It paid my wages. I am very political - I've worked for political parties before. I don't accept any prepackaged opinions.

Of course, we all know that I'm an America-hater (a long line of) because 7 words were interrepted that way on an internet forum.

Do you see the point here?

There are very, very serious questions about the Bush administration, and it's actions over the past 4 years. How can you start an illegal war, based on a lie, without much question? There's lots of questions. History will answer those questions.

It's just completely dishearting to see 50% of the country don't see this.

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Originally posted by ManiacNumberOne:
I can surely see why y'all are gettin' a bit fumed at each other. It's ok. I read over those sites too... pretty funny propaganda, like you say. I heard Michael Moore's speech in Utah recently, before the election, and let me tell you, even though his points were good in the bowling for columbine and fahrenheit 911 movies, he is no public speaker. I felt bad for the school that paid him $50,000 for his input. He really didn't say anything. He mooed and booed a lot back at some of the crowd, got one kid thrown out for looking at him funny and gesturing to his pocket, and then he brings out Roseanne... geesh. that's no crowd pleaser either. He was rather annoyingly sarcastic, and I'm on his side! Anyway, I had 2 things I really wanted to say. If y'all really want a moderator to look over your chats and send you an email asking you to be nice, I can talk to one and see what he'll do. And that initial site was way funny. Y'all should read all the way to ben affleck at least. I laughed my butt off at the comments about him.

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