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Originally posted by kpo:
Investigators blame Russian military unit in Ukraine for shootdown of MH17 (298 people on board):

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/24/mh17-downed-by-russian-m
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Just another "Russia scare story"

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Originally posted by JJ:

While you're at it KPO, ask SIG if Russia should give back Crimea.

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Yep KPO, she ran for the hills.

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Originally posted by kpo:
I seem to have broken the other thread with the link (quite convenient for Siggy, who still hasn't answered whether she supports Kosovan independence), so I'll just start a new thread.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

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Originally posted by kpo:

I seem to have broken the other thread with the link (quite convenient for Siggy, who still hasn't answered whether she supports Kosovan independence), so I'll just start a new thread.

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Yeah, we're like day 200 of the Donetsk airport siege around here, maybe even later - some user accounts either deleted or mucked with, etc. Twitter says it was Kiki or Siggy's fault, and who am I to disagree with Twitter? < / joke >

BTW - Did you know that Putin has won? That the Putin Referendum, "There are no such things as facts anymore." is now a fact? So you can't really prove anything anywhere any how, not MH-17 or Ukraine *blank* - and I think it is going save us all so much time. As long as their are no methods by which to hold anyone accountable there is no accountability, and without accountability there are no Lies or Truths. So have at it! Today a little thuggery, tomorrow adopt a lost pet - no difference. Honestly, don't you feel relieved not to have to understand the difference?

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Originally posted by JJ:And isn't it funny guys how those who practice ignorance for plausible deniability sake, Jack, or SIG who changes text ever so slightly when she posts others reporting. Or reposts what other trolls post on the internet suggesting she doesn't necessarily agree, but does find it interesting. Or kiki who like the others follow a pro Russian anti American rhetoric, cry incessantly and yell fowl when others express their disgust with them.

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Originally posted by JJ:And isn't it funny guys how those who practice ignorance for plausible deniability sake, Jack, or SIG who changes text ever so slightly when she posts others reporting. Or reposts what other trolls post on the internet suggesting she doesn't necessarily agree, but does find it interesting. Or kiki who like the others follow a pro Russian anti American rhetoric, cry incessantly and yell fowl when others express their disgust with them.

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I look forward to when we can bridge the gap between biology and digital, so we could plug someone in and look over their code and go, "there, right there! That's where they decided being a lying sack was the best option."

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Yeah, we're like day 200 of the Donetsk airport siege around here, maybe even later - some user accounts either deleted or mucked with, etc. Twitter says it was Kiki or Siggy's fault, and who am I to disagree with Twitter? < / joke >

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Originally posted by JJ:

While you're at it KPO, ask SIG if Russia should give back Crimea.

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Yep KPO, she ran for the hills.


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Originally posted by kpo:
I seem to have broken the other thread with the link (quite convenient for Siggy, who still hasn't answered whether she supports Kosovan independence), so I'll just start a new thread.

New analysis on the gunning down of protesters in 2014 implicates (shock) Yanukovich's security forces:

Check out the video: https://www.nytimes.com/video/magazine/100000005838140/did-ukrainian-p
olice-kill-protesters-videos-may-reveal-the-answer.html?smid=tw-share]

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MOSCOW: Russia's embattled liberal community was reeling today from the murder of fiercely anti-Kremlin journalist Arkady Babchenko who was gunned down in Ukraine after leaving Moscow following a campaign of harassment.

A prominent Russian war correspondent, Babchenko, 41, was murdered last evening in a contract-style killing in the stairwell of his building in the Ukrainian capital Kiev where he moved last year.

He was found bleeding and died in an ambulance en route to hospital.


http://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2018/may/30/murder-of-anti-kreml
in-war-reporter-arkady-babchenko-shocks-russians-1821433.html

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Ukraine faked murder of journalist
Arkady Babchenko sent shock waves around the world when he arrived at a news conference on Wednesday, less than 24 hours after being reported dead.

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...they had mounted an elaborate sting to foil a death plot against him. The journalist, 41-year-old Arkady Babchenko, apologized to all for the deception, first and foremost to his wife, Olga. Flanked by law enforcement officials at a news conference in Kiev, he said he had agreed to pose as his own corpse to give authorities their best chance to ensnare those who wanted him dead.

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Authorities said they arrested one person: a Ukrainian citizen they said was recruited by Russia to find and hire a contract killer. The price for the killing was $30,000, they said, with $10,000 more going to the intermediary.

But there was no explanation as to how exactly the suspect was flushed out, or how officials thought it would prevent planned attacks against Babchenko and others from going forward.

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Ukraine - The Babchenko Hoax Was Part Of A Corporate Raid
Babchenko himself and the man who was hired to "kill" him had cooperated with the main branch of the Ukrainian national security service (SBU). The "operator", who is accused of having hired the "killer" for Russia, appeared in court. He claimed to have cooperated with the Ukrainian counter intelligence agency, which is side branch of the national security service. The accused "operator" is an executive of a private joint venture and has been under pressure over claims against his company. There are indications that the whole stunt may have been staged to get him "out of the way" to then take over the company he leads.
The suggestion is that high levels of the Ukrainian security services staged the whole affair not only to blame Russia but also for someone's personal gain.

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Seems the Ukrainians found a novel way to bate [sic] and switch in an attempt to catch the Russian. Apparently it worked. - THUGR

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
krappo - why do you post links when anyone can look up the info and find out you're lying?

The story didn't say the Russians did anything, only that the equipment was originally based in Kursk.

Furthermore, FROM YOUR LINK: "Two years ago, prosecutors said there were about 100 people under suspicion of direct or indirect involvement. On Thursday, Westerbeke said that number had come down to several dozen, but he declined to name them."

OBVIOUSLY, if we had believed your story from two years ago, we would have believed about 100 people were guilty, when it turns out 100-several dozen were not. And which innocent people will be further absolved as the process continues? And who will be found not guilty?

Do you think you could let an actual system of justice prevail, instead of constantly agitating for a lynching?

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Originally posted by kpo:

I seem to have broken the other thread with the link (quite convenient for Siggy, who still hasn't answered whether she supports Kosovan independence), so I'll just start a new thread.

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Yeah, we're like day 200 of the Donetsk airport siege around here, maybe even later - some user accounts either deleted or mucked with, etc. Twitter says it was Kiki or Siggy's fault, and who am I to disagree with Twitter? < / joke >

BTW - Did you know that Putin has won? That the Putin Referendum, "There are no such things as facts anymore." is now a fact? So you can't really prove anything anywhere any how, not MH-17 or Ukraine *blank* - and I think it is going save us all so much time. As long as their are no methods by which to hold anyone accountable there is no accountability, and without accountability there are no Lies or Truths. So have at it! Today a little thuggery, tomorrow adopt a lost pet - no difference. Honestly, don't you feel relieved not to have to understand the difference?

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And isn't it funny guys how those who practice ignorance for plausible deniability sake, Jack, or SIG who changes text ever so slightly when she posts others reporting. Or reposts what other trolls post on the internet suggesting she doesn't necessarily agree, but does find it interesting. Or kiki who like the others follow a pro Russian anti American rhetoric, cry incessantly and yell fowl when others express their disgust with them.

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Originally posted by THG:
Russians are all over the world: how men flee Russia to avoid mobilization

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