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Inspector General Finds FBI, DOJ Broke Law In Clinton Email Probe, Refers To Criminal Prosecutor
Thursday, May 17, 2018 2:40 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Now, journalist Paul Sperry reports that "IG Horowitz has found "reasonable grounds" for believing there has been a violation of federal criminal law in the FBI/DOJ's handling of the Clinton investigation/s and has referred his findings of potential criminal misconduct to Huber for possible criminal prosecution."
Thursday, May 17, 2018 3:10 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Good grief, no shit. I have never seen such a "botched" investigation in my entire life. The FBI did EVERYTHING it could to put all of the evidence of Hillary wrongdoing permanently out of reach: Failing to question Hillary under oath. Failing to pursue an "obstruction of justice" charge against Hillary when it became clear that she permanently wiped her records ("like with a cloth?") AFTER being subpoenaed. Giving witnesses (Hillary staffers) immunity. Good grief, you don't give WITNESSES immunity. Allowing staffers to destroy their laptops and phones ... and any possibility of recovering copies or other evidence ... not "like with a cloth?" but more "like with a hammer". Lynch talking with Bill on the tarmac (for 20 minutes) as an excuse to delegate her prosecutorial authority to someone else, in this case Comey. Comey shutting down a prosecution when it was not within his authority. Can you say "COVER UP"? Sure you can! Quote:Now, journalist Paul Sperry reports that "IG Horowitz has found "reasonable grounds" for believing there has been a violation of federal criminal law in the FBI/DOJ's handling of the Clinton investigation/s and has referred his findings of potential criminal misconduct to Huber for possible criminal prosecution." MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-17/inspector-general-finds-fbi-doj-broke-law-clinton-email-probe-refers-criminal IG Horowitz' full report has yet to be made public.
Thursday, May 17, 2018 3:17 PM
Quote:Wit, zerohedge? Isn't that the IDF outlet for America?
Thursday, May 17, 2018 5:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Wit, zerohedge? Isn't that the IDF outlet for America? Zerohedge ... it's kind of all over the map. I'm just wondering how many people, and who, will eventually be snared. Maybe we should set up a betting pool?
Thursday, May 17, 2018 6:10 PM
Friday, May 18, 2018 10:24 AM
Quote:Brennan "Needs Very Good Lawyer" Says DiGenova; "He's Going To Be In Front Of A Grand Jury Shortly" Veteran D.C. attorney Joe diGenova - who President Trump initially wanted to hire to represent him in the Mueller probe, only to have to step aside due to conflicts - sat down on Fox News on Thursday where he put a bow on what many believe was a high-stakes gamble by various members within the Obama Intelligence Community (IC) and others to infiltrate the Trump campaign and frame Donald Trump with Russiagate. Key among the participants in this alleged plot is former CIA director John Brennan, whose involvement is thought to have dovetailed with the FBI's recently disclosed "operation Crossfire Hurricane" - the code name given to the agency's earliest counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign. The FBI says the operation was launched following a drunken conversation between a Clinton-linked Australian ambassador and a low-level Trump associate, George Papadopoulos, who may have been set up from the start after being fed information by a professor named Joseph Mifsud, who is currently missing. When Carlson asked diGenova for an update on recent developments, the former federal prosecutor (and special counsel to boot) said: * We know that Hillary Clinton was illegally exonerated * We know that there was a substantial effort to frame the current President of the United States with crimes by infiltrating his campaign and then his administration with spies that the FBI had set upon them * We have learned that the crimes were committed by the FBI, senior members of the Department of Justice, John Brennan, Mr. Clapper, Mr. Comey, and others associated with the Democratic party * Donald Trump and his associates committed no crimes When asked to explain the mechanics of the setup, diGenova tells Carlson that the FBI "purposely sent people into the Trump campaign to plant false information, then forced that information to be forwarded back to CIA and then funneled to the FBI, to be used as false information in FISA applications." "Everybody involved in that process who knowingly participated committed a crime," diGenova added. The lawyer then offered Brennan some legal advice: Tucker: So why aren't they being held to account? diGenova: As of today, I understand that a referral for criminal prosecution has been made by Mr. Horowitz to Mr. Huber, who is investigating the FISA leaks, the unmasking, the leaks of the unmasking and everything we described tonight. Criminal referrals have already been made, and I suggest that Mr. Brennan - who loves to make comments about the process, get himself a good lawyer. Not a good writer. Tucker: Wait, John Brennan the NBC news paid consultant? diGenova: Yes, NBC News' consultant, the former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, the most partisan hack leader of the CIA in history, needs a very very good lawyer. Tucker: Criminal lawyer? diGenova: Yes, criminal lawyer - oh yes, he doesn't need a slip-and-fall lawyer, although he's going to slip and fall. He's going to be in front of a grand jury shortly. Tucker: That's news. diGenova: Yes, and that's good news.
Friday, May 18, 2018 10:32 AM
JJ
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Wit, zerohedge? Isn't that the IDF outlet for America? Zerohedge ... it's kind of all over the map. I'm just wondering how many people, and who, will eventually be snared. Maybe we should set up a betting pool? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876]
Friday, May 18, 2018 11:43 AM
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Friday, May 18, 2018 2:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: A commentary ... Quote:Brennan "Needs Very Good Lawyer" Says DiGenova; "He's Going To Be In Front Of A Grand Jury Shortly" Veteran D.C. attorney Joe diGenova - who President Trump initially wanted to hire to represent him in the Mueller probe, only to have to step aside due to conflicts - sat down on Fox News on Thursday where he put a bow on what many believe was a high-stakes gamble by various members within the Obama Intelligence Community (IC) and others to infiltrate the Trump campaign and frame Donald Trump with Russiagate. Key among the participants in this alleged plot is former CIA director John Brennan, whose involvement is thought to have dovetailed with the FBI's recently disclosed "operation Crossfire Hurricane" - the code name given to the agency's earliest counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign. The FBI says the operation was launched following a drunken conversation between a Clinton-linked Australian ambassador and a low-level Trump associate, George Papadopoulos, who may have been set up from the start after being fed information by a professor named Joseph Mifsud, who is currently missing. When Carlson asked diGenova for an update on recent developments, the former federal prosecutor (and special counsel to boot) said: * We know that Hillary Clinton was illegally exonerated * We know that there was a substantial effort to frame the current President of the United States with crimes by infiltrating his campaign and then his administration with spies that the FBI had set upon them * We have learned that the crimes were committed by the FBI, senior members of the Department of Justice, John Brennan, Mr. Clapper, Mr. Comey, and others associated with the Democratic party * Donald Trump and his associates committed no crimes When asked to explain the mechanics of the setup, diGenova tells Carlson that the FBI "purposely sent people into the Trump campaign to plant false information, then forced that information to be forwarded back to CIA and then funneled to the FBI, to be used as false information in FISA applications." "Everybody involved in that process who knowingly participated committed a crime," diGenova added. The lawyer then offered Brennan some legal advice: Tucker: So why aren't they being held to account? diGenova: As of today, I understand that a referral for criminal prosecution has been made by Mr. Horowitz to Mr. Huber, who is investigating the FISA leaks, the unmasking, the leaks of the unmasking and everything we described tonight. Criminal referrals have already been made, and I suggest that Mr. Brennan - who loves to make comments about the process, get himself a good lawyer. Not a good writer. Tucker: Wait, John Brennan the NBC news paid consultant? diGenova: Yes, NBC News' consultant, the former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency, the most partisan hack leader of the CIA in history, needs a very very good lawyer. Tucker: Criminal lawyer? diGenova: Yes, criminal lawyer - oh yes, he doesn't need a slip-and-fall lawyer, although he's going to slip and fall. He's going to be in front of a grand jury shortly. Tucker: That's news. diGenova: Yes, and that's good news. MORE AT https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-18/brennan-needs-very-good-lawyer-says-digenova-hes-going-be-front-grand-jury-shortly
Friday, May 18, 2018 7:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Wit, zerohedge? Isn't that the IDF outlet for America? Zerohedge ... it's kind of all over the map. I'm just wondering how many people, and who, will eventually be snared. Maybe we should set up a betting pool? Perhaps the pertinent question is not who, but what level? Page, Strzok, they can go to prison. McCabe accepted the payoff from Hilliary/McCauliffe, so he should be safe. Lynch and Comey have been useless, so they could be going to the slammer. Hilliary has been quite blatant, unrepentant in her Criminal conduct - maybe enough to not forgive and keep her out of prison. Brennan doesn't seem to have many friends outside Libtards, maybe he's vulnerable. Obviously Obama knew of all this, and he is no longer a sitting POTUS, an example should finally be set. No matter the results here, Trump needs to fire Rosenstein as soon as the SC shop is shuttered.
Saturday, May 26, 2018 3:13 AM
Tuesday, May 29, 2018 10:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JJ: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Wit, zerohedge? Isn't that the IDF outlet for America? Zerohedge ... it's kind of all over the map. I'm just wondering how many people, and who, will eventually be snared. Maybe we should set up a betting pool? ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876] I am referencing this thread, http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62024, because SIG is posting lies again and more times than not, sources her information that she posts here from zerohedge. She stupidly defends this as a reputable source. Something she does with other unreliable sources. As she continues to do so, I will reference this thread to remind all she posts from this and other corrupted sources. Sources designed to create havoc rather than inform. Below are the names of those behind zero hedge. Don't miss what I've highlighted in red below. This folks is why comrade troll SIG loves to quote zero hedge. In addition, Lokey said he faced constant pressure to frame stories in-line with a particular world-view, which he described as “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladmir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.” All of this matches SIG's playbook here and Putin's globally; exactly. http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62024 The men behind zero hedge Colin Lokey, a 32-year-old former Seeking Alpha director Daniel Ivandjiiski, a 37-year-old Bulgarian-born former hedge fund employee who was barred for insider trading in 2008 Tim Backshall, a 45-year-old credit derivatives strategist Despite its populist tone, Lokey told Bloomberg he recently left Zero Hedge because he didn’t see eye-to-eye with the others when it came to editorial vision. “Zero Hedge ceased to serve that public service years ago,” Lokey said. “They care what generates page views. Clicks. Money.” In addition, Lokey said he faced constant pressure to frame stories in-line with a particular world-view, which he described as “Russia=good. Obama=idiot. Bashar al-Assad=benevolent leader. John Kerry=dunce. Vladmir Putin=greatest leader in the history of statecraft.” Lokey claims Zero Hedge’s focus on traffic and revenue is hypocritical, but Ivandjiiski sees things differently. Finally, Zero Hedge addressed the accusations of systematic bias in its content. “We are certainly ok with being the object of other’s conspiracy theories, in this case completely false ones since we have never been in contact with anyone in Russia, or the US, or any government for that matter,” Zero Hedge says. The site claims it has never accepted a dime of funding outside of advertising revenue and that Lokey was never pressured about how to frame his articles or editorialized. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/zero-hedge-unmasked-theres-more-1427301 65.html According to the Bloomberg article, three men have been churning out all of the content at Zero Hedge, using the joint pseudonym “Tyler Durden” from the Brad Pitt film “Fight Club.” The 1999 cult film, according to Rolling Stone, is “about being young, male and powerless against the pacifying drug of consumerism. It’s about solitude, despair and bottled-up rage.” That ethos is frequently on display at Zero Hedge. The three “Tyler Durdens” outed by Bloomberg reporters are Colin Lokey, who has now left Zero Hedge in a fit of pique and is responsible for handing over the internal chat sessions from Zero Hedge on traffic-building strategies and other matters. Bloomberg says “the other two men are Daniel Ivandjiiski, 37, the Bulgarian-born former analyst long reputed to be behind the site, and Tim Backshall, 45, a well-known credit derivatives strategist.” The article notes that “Ivandjiiski has a multimillion-dollar mansion in Mahwah, N.J., and Backshall lives in a plush San Francisco suburb,” suggesting these are “not exactly reflections” of the anti-capitalism reflected in the moniker “Tyler Durden.” T
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1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
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Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: You 2 weren't interested in Strzok and Page explaining that the White House was running the shenanigans in August 2016?
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 1:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I probably missed it. I'm pretty busy. Do you have a link? It would be much appreciated! SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 1:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: You 2 weren't interested in Strzok and Page explaining that the White House was running the shenanigans in August 2016?Oh, I read somewhere that the spying began in April, before Papadoupulos ever drunkenly insinuated to Australian Ambassador [and Clinton Foundation illegal money-channeler] Downer that Russians had "dirt" on Hillary. If THAT wasn't what started the spying ... what did??? The implication is that Downer didn't just "happen" to meet Papadoupulos, he was actually tasked with entrapping him.
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 1:35 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The last post in Obamagates thread.
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The last post in Obamagates thread.
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 6:47 AM
Quote:The last post in Obamagates thread. - JSF got it - THANKS! http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58680&mid=1054089#1054089 Do you think this fact is being buried by the MSM? - JSF
Quote: FBI Agent In Charge Of "Russiagate" Operation And Clinton Email "Matter" To Testify Tuesday FBI Counterintelligence chief, Bill Priestap, will sit down for a closed-door session with lawmakers on Tuesday, according to John Solomon of The Hill. Priestap will be answering questions about the Hillary Clinton email case as well as the counterintelligence operation on the Trump campaign - both of which he oversaw. Priestap was the direct supervisor of Peter Strzok - the FBI agent whose anti-Trump / pro-Clinton bias was revealed after 50,000 text messages to his FBI-attorney mistress, Lisa Page, were discovered by the DOJ's Inspector General, Michael Horowitz. All accounts say that Priestap is a cooperating witness. In other words, if there's one person who can confirm that the FBI counterintelligence operation on the Trump campaign was politically motivated - or that malfeasance occurred during the process, it's Bill Priestap ... When you understand how central E.W. “Bill” Priestap was to the entire 2016/2017 ‘Russian Conspiracy Operation‘, the absence of his name, amid all others, created a curiosity... E.W. “Bill” Priestap is the head of the FBI Counterintelligence operation. He was FBI Agent Peter Strozk’s direct boss. If anyone in congress really wanted to know if the FBI paid for the Christopher Steele Dossier, Bill Priestap is the guy who would know everything about everything. ... Everyone around Bill Priestap, above and below, were caught inside the investigative net. Above him: James Comey, Andrew McCabe and James Baker. Below him: Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Jim Rybicki, Trisha Beth Anderson and Mike Kortan. Parallel to Priestap in main justice his peer John P Carlin resigned, Sally Yates fired, Mary McCord quit, Bruce Ohr was busted twice, and most recently Dave Laufman resigned.
Quote: All of them caught in the investigative net…. Only Bill Priestap remained, quietly invisible – still in position. The reason was obvious.
Quote:Likely Bill Priestap made the decision after James Comey’s testimony on March 20th, 2017
Quote: when he realized what was coming. Priestap is well-off financially; he has too much to lose. He and his wife, Sabina Menschel, live a comfortable life in a $3.8 million DC home; she comes from a family of money. While ideologically Bill and Sabina are aligned with Clinton support, and their circle of family and friends likely lean toward more liberal friends; no-one in his position would willingly allow themselves to be the scape-goat for the unlawful action that was happening around them. Bill Priestap had too much to lose… and for what? With all of that in mind, there is essentially no-way the participating members inside the small group can escape their accountability with Mr. Bill Priestap cooperating with the investigative authorities.
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 7:15 AM
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 9:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:The last post in Obamagates thread. - JSF got it - THANKS! http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58680&mid=1054089#1054089 Do you think this fact is being buried by the MSM? - JSF Who needs to think about it? The MSM just regurgitates what the deep state tells it to. Now here's another "buried" MSM story. As a comment, one of the things that I have wondered about is the scattershot way that people have been resigning/ fired/ demoted in the DOJ and FBI. The number of people ... if you add them all up ... who have disappeared from the employee roster is truly astounding. IF the MSM wants to do a real investigative piece, they would be sniffing up and down the official DOJ and FBI org charts to see "who reported to whom". It's a simple matter of record. And then, one simply looks for the missing testimony. But of course, such an obvious piece of inquiry seems to be beyond them. Quote: FBI Agent In Charge Of "Russiagate" Operation And Clinton Email "Matter" To Testify Tuesday FBI Counterintelligence chief, Bill Priestap, will sit down for a closed-door session with lawmakers on Tuesday, according to John Solomon of The Hill. Priestap will be answering questions about the Hillary Clinton email case as well as the counterintelligence operation on the Trump campaign - both of which he oversaw. Priestap was the direct supervisor of Peter Strzok - the FBI agent whose anti-Trump / pro-Clinton bias was revealed after 50,000 text messages to his FBI-attorney mistress, Lisa Page, were discovered by the DOJ's Inspector General, Michael Horowitz. All accounts say that Priestap is a cooperating witness. In other words, if there's one person who can confirm that the FBI counterintelligence operation on the Trump campaign was politically motivated - or that malfeasance occurred during the process, it's Bill Priestap ... When you understand how central E.W. “Bill” Priestap was to the entire 2016/2017 ‘Russian Conspiracy Operation‘, the absence of his name, amid all others, created a curiosity... E.W. “Bill” Priestap is the head of the FBI Counterintelligence operation. He was FBI Agent Peter Strozk’s direct boss. If anyone in congress really wanted to know if the FBI paid for the Christopher Steele Dossier, Bill Priestap is the guy who would know everything about everything. ... Everyone around Bill Priestap, above and below, were caught inside the investigative net. Above him: James Comey, Andrew McCabe and James Baker. Below him: Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Jim Rybicki, Trisha Beth Anderson and Mike Kortan. Parallel to Priestap in main justice his peer John P Carlin resigned, Sally Yates fired, Mary McCord quit, Bruce Ohr was busted twice, and most recently Dave Laufman resigned. 13 top people all together Quote: All of them caught in the investigative net…. Only Bill Priestap remained, quietly invisible – still in position. The reason was obvious. Maybe there are other reasons but I can't think of them. Curios. Quote:Likely Bill Priestap made the decision after James Comey’s testimony on March 20th, 2017 When Comey threw Priestap under the bus ...Quote: when he realized what was coming. Priestap is well-off financially; he has too much to lose. He and his wife, Sabina Menschel, live a comfortable life in a $3.8 million DC home; she comes from a family of money. While ideologically Bill and Sabina are aligned with Clinton support, and their circle of family and friends likely lean toward more liberal friends; no-one in his position would willingly allow themselves to be the scape-goat for the unlawful action that was happening around them. Bill Priestap had too much to lose… and for what? With all of that in mind, there is essentially no-way the participating members inside the small group can escape their accountability with Mr. Bill Priestap cooperating with the investigative authorities. https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-04/fbi-agent-charge-russiagate-operation-and-clinton-email-matter-testify-tuesday
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 11:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JJ:
Quote:Who ARE these idiots on MSNBC? ... http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62424&p=2
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 11:21 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The MSM just regurgitates what the deep state tells it to.
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 11:39 AM
Quote:Who needs to think about it? The MSM just regurgitates what the deep state tells it to. -SIGNY How does that happen exactly? What are the mechanics?- GSTRING
Quote: when we tried to manipulate or influence elections or even overturned governments, it was done with the best interests of the people in that country in mind ..
Quote:We’ve used posters, pamphlets, mailers, banners — you name it. We’ve planted false information in foreign newspapers. We’ve used what the British call ‘King George’s cavalry’: suitcases of cash.” [Levin]
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 12:01 PM
Quote:THE CIA AND THE MEDIA How Americas Most Powerful News Media Worked Hand in Glove with the Central Intelligence Agency and Why the Church Committee Covered It Up ... Alsop is one of more than 400 American journalists who in the past twenty-five years have secretly carried out assignments for the Central Intelligence Agency, according to documents on file at CIA headquarters. Some of these journalists’ relationships with the Agency were tacit; some were explicit. There was cooperation, accommodation and overlap. Journalists provided a full range of clandestine services—from simple intelligence gathering to serving as go-betweens with spies in Communist countries. Reporters shared their notebooks with the CIA. Editors shared their staffs. Some of the journalists were Pulitzer Prize winners, distinguished reporters who considered themselves ambassadors without-portfolio for their country. Most were less exalted: foreign correspondents who found that their association with the Agency helped their work; stringers and freelancers who were as interested in the derring-do of the spy business as in filing articles; and, the smallest category, full-time CIA employees masquerading as journalists abroad....
Quote: Caveat Emptor: MSNBC and CNN Use CIA Apologists for False Commentary MSNBC prides itself for progressive reporting on national security issues but continues to use apologists for the Central Intelligence Agency in reporting on key intelligence issues. The network’s reliance on former deputy director of the CIA John McLaughlin is an excellent example of the skewed and tailored information that it offers to viewers on matters dealing with CIA. McLaughlin, a former colleague of mine at the CIA who I remember as an amateur magician, regularly pulls the wool over the eyes of such MSNBC veterans as Andrea Mitchell.Brennan is now a commentator on CNN.
Quote: Former Newspaper Editor Who Exposed CIA Found Dead Dr Udo Ulfkotte, the former German newspaper editor whose bestselling book exposed how the CIA controls German media, has been found dead. He was 56. Ulfkotte was an editor at Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, one of the largest newspapers in Germany, when he published Bought Journalists, the bestselling book that cost him his job and perhaps his life. German media, who were banned from reporting on his work in recent years, are reporting he died of “heart failure”.
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 1:30 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh look, the little boy is dragging his latest find from thread to thread, hoping it will have more impact.
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JJ: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh look, the little boy is dragging his latest find from thread to thread, hoping it will have more impact. Funny, hey open your mouth little girl I want to make a deposit. And I noticed again as always your defense of Trump is but Hillary. You do this because you can't dispute the facts. T
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 2:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Who needs to think about it? The MSM just regurgitates what the deep state tells it to. -SIGNY How does that happen exactly? What are the mechanics?- GSTRING Dood, are you an idiot? (Don't answer that question).
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: IF I could tell you exactly "who" and "how", it wouldn't be a deep state, would it? It would be more like a shallow state.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: But CLAPPER already copped to influencing foreign elections and overturning governments. Quote: when we tried to manipulate or influence elections or even overturned governments, it was done with the best interests of the people in that country in mind .. and the mechanisms for that .... We’ve used posters, pamphlets, mailers, banners — you name it. We’ve planted false information in foreign newspapers.
Quote: when we tried to manipulate or influence elections or even overturned governments, it was done with the best interests of the people in that country in mind .. and the mechanisms for that .... We’ve used posters, pamphlets, mailers, banners — you name it. We’ve planted false information in foreign newspapers.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: According to foreign reporters and editors (I can provide links later, just busy right now), they have admitted to being on the CIA payroll. At one time, the CIA had a program of disinformation directly into the USA media.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: The names and mechanics don't come out until years or decades later. But if you think this is past and done, you're wrong. The media doesn't do REAL investigation, it (for the most part) either faithfully transcribes the official narrative (when the deep state is in control of the official narrative) or works with selected "leakers" who "leak" the deep state's version.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: That is how Judith Miller (NYT) got the Iraq WMD story so terribly, terribly wrong- she though she had the "inside track" because someone was feeding her info. Also, the CIA is STILL planting false stories into foreign press. And they work hand-in-glove with MI6, which floats/ creates disinformation (eg Iraq's WMD being a "slam dunk") which is used in the USA MSM.
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Your faith in corporate media is touching, but misguided. Our corporate press is no more honest than any government-funded operation. Do you really think big transnational media corporations have YOUR interests at heart??
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:15 PM
Quote:Who needs to think about it? The MSM just regurgitates what the deep state tells it to. -SIGNY How does that happen exactly? What are the mechanics?- GSTRING Dood, are you an idiot? (Don't answer that question). - SIGNY *Dood*, starting off with an insult shows how lame we can expect your response coming up to be... and yep, you didn't disappoint...- GSTRING IF I could tell you exactly "who" and "how", it wouldn't be a deep state, would it? It would be more like a shallow state.- SIGNY *snort* Do I need to go any further? You just admitted you have no clue.- GSTRING
Quote: But CLAPPER already copped to influencing foreign elections and overturning governments. Quote: when we tried to manipulate or influence elections or even overturned governments, it was done with the best interests of the people in that country in mind .. and the mechanisms for that .... We’ve used posters, pamphlets, mailers, banners — you name it. We’ve planted false information in foreign newspapers. - SIGNY So nothing on dictating to our MSM what they should write. Why am I not surprised?- GSTRING
Quote: According to foreign reporters and editors (I can provide links later, just busy right now), they have admitted to being on the CIA payroll. At one time, the CIA had a program of disinformation directly into the USA media. - SIGNY Links? Wouldn't they all be Deep State?- GSTRING
Quote:And if you find some Zerohedge article, still BS because yanno, they be manipulated by the Deep State too? - GSTRING
Quote: And you might be able to find a couple believable instances in the last 25 years of CIA trying to influence the press, but not even close to this silly noise, "They print what the Deep State tells them to."
Quote: The names and mechanics don't come out until years or decades later. But if you think this is past and done, you're wrong. The media doesn't do REAL investigation, it (for the most part) either faithfully transcribes the official narrative (when the deep state is in control of the official narrative) or works with selected "leakers" who "leak" the deep state's version. - SIGNY Yeah, riiiight. No investigation. Thousands of journalists waiting to be told what to print, that makes *sense.* - GSTRING
Quote: That is how Judith Miller (NYT) got the Iraq WMD story so terribly, terribly wrong- she though she had the "inside track" because someone was feeding her info. Also, the CIA is STILL planting false stories into foreign press. And they work hand-in-glove with MI6, which floats/ creates disinformation (eg Iraq's WMD being a "slam dunk") which is used in the USA MSM.- SIGNY Sure, it does happen, but not anywhere near how often you say. You want to taint entire decades and thousands and thousands of true stories and an entire profession with a few examples. Your head is firmly up your deep state.- GSTRING
Quote:Your faith in corporate media is touching, but misguided. Our corporate press is no more honest than any government-funded operation. Do you really think big transnational media corporations have YOUR interests at heart?? - SIGNY Yes! Of course they do! But not like you think. Consumers are the true Deep State when it comes to MSM. Some day I'll explain it to you - I'm just a bit busy right now.- GSTRING
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Quote:justify attacking established democratic institutions
Tuesday, June 5, 2018 3:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:justify attacking established democratic institutions T And even MORE bullshit. OK, THUGR - like what? Do I attack the Constitution? The democratic vote? The Office of the Presidency? The free press? The military?
Quote:justify attacking established democratic institutions T
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Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: OK, I think the topic of seep state and the media has been beaten to death.
Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:27 AM
Quote:OK, I think the topic of seep state and the media has been beaten to death. -SIGNY] Ha! Hardly. You drop a couple cheap smoke bombs and then you want to run away - GSTRING
Quote: ‘Deep State’ Veterans find New Homes in Mainstream Media https://consortiumnews.com/2018/02/05/deep-state-veterans-find-new-homes-in-mainstream-media/
Wednesday, June 6, 2018 10:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: McCabe is seeking Immunity before Testifying. Now, why would that be?
Quote:Priestap: FBI's Strzok Played "More Central Role Than Previously Known" In Clinton, Russia Probes "Below not helpful," Strzok wrote. "Certainly the WH is going to do whatever it wants, but there is a line they need to hold with regard to the appearance of non-interference."
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