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Donald Trump Has Known "Vladimir Putin Ordered Hacks" Since January 2017. Yet Trump has been calling the investigation into that a Witch Hunt.

Can you admit Trump has been colluding with the Russians to cover this up? No, than you're not very bright like Jack, or like sig and kiki you are Russian.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Nobody is going to take anybody seriously that throws out words like fascism and regime when there is no fascist regime in their country.

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Nobody is going to take anybody seriously that throws out words like fascism and regime when there is no fascist regime in their country.

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Nobody is going to take anybody seriously that throws out words like fascism and regime when there is no fascist regime in their country.

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I think you are right in terms of Trump supporters.

Personally: If the Dems want to win more they need to stop being stereo typical liberals that undecideds and border line Trump supporters have a lack of patience for and a negative hair trigger against. That's a trap they'll never get out of. Maybe they'll win anyway by energizing the undecideds with their passion and beliefs, hard to say. I wouldn't trust it myself. Facts don't seem to matter to undecideds and Trump voters no matter how loud or compelling they're presented.

When I was a kid my oldest brother went to Vietnam War protests. I remember thinking, "why don't you wear a suit and even a tie and try and look more like them (republicans/conservatives/establishment). That way your conversations don't start with "get a hair cut you f*king goddamn hippy!" You'll never change someone's mind if you start out by pissing them off.

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Originally posted by THG:
Trump just had his Katrina Brownie moment. He tweeted all the Puerto Rican deaths are the fault of the democrats. Wow, hey you guys who still support Trump, when will you tire of him making you look like a bunch of morons?

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3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000...

.....This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!

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Trump just had his Katrina Brownie moment. He tweeted all the Puerto Rican deaths are the fault of the democrats. Wow, hey you guys who still support Trump, when will you tire of him making you look like a bunch of morons?

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I had to look this up since you didn't cite it. Here were the tweets in question...

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3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000...

.....This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!

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He didn't say that 3,000 Puerto Rican's died because of Democrats. The very first line in the tweet said "3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico."

The average death rate in Puerto Rico is 8.6 per 1,000 as of 2017 (0.0086%): https://www.indexmundi.com/puerto_rico/death_rate.html

The population of Puerto Rico is 3,658,163: http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/puerto-rico-population/

This would mean that in any given year, roughly 31,460 people will die in Puerto Rico. It's been only 11 months, so let's call it 28,838 people.

What Trump said is that when he left the island there were no more than a dozen and a half deaths.

He didn't blame any hurricane related deaths on Democrats. He said that the MSM has taken a smaller pool of the number of people who die on average every year (particularly old people) and mis-attributed it to the hurricane.



Don't die on this hill, T. This is the type of bad reporting that leaves you with no argument, and just makes people who read past the headlines even more skeptical of the blatantly left leaning MSM.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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This, folks, is why we need to properly fund our schools. We've got people like 6 slipping through the cracks.

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This, folks, is why we need to properly fund our schools. We've got people like 6 slipping through the cracks.

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Wow. What a strikingly intelligent retort.

I've laid out a perfectly legitimate point, and all you have is a baseless insult.

It must be Friday.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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This, folks, is why we need to properly fund our schools. We've got people like 6 slipping through the cracks.

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Wow. What a strikingly intelligent retort.

I've laid out a perfectly legitimate point, and all you have is a baseless insult.

It must be Friday.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Nope. Your "point" is lost.

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I had to look this up since you didn't cite it. Here were the tweets in question...

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3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000...

.....This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!

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He didn't say that 3,000 Puerto Rican's died because of Democrats. The very first line in the tweet said "3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico."

The average death rate in Puerto Rico is 8.6 per 1,000 as of 2017 (0.0086%): https://www.indexmundi.com/puerto_rico/death_rate.html

The population of Puerto Rico is 3,658,163: http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/puerto-rico-population/

This would mean that in any given year, roughly 31,460 people will die in Puerto Rico. It's been only 11 months, so let's call it 28,838 people.

What Trump said is that when he left the island there were no more than a dozen and a half deaths.

He didn't blame any hurricane related deaths on Democrats. He said that the MSM has taken a smaller pool of the number of people who die on average every year (particularly old people) and mis-attributed it to the hurricane.



Don't die on this hill, T. This is the type of bad reporting that leaves you with no argument, and just makes people who read past the headlines even more skeptical of the blatantly left leaning MSM.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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How Puerto Rico's Hurricane Maria death toll of 3,000 was calculated

A team of researchers spent six months poring over death certificates, speaking to funeral home directors and interviewing doctors to arrive at a death toll of nearly 3,000 people as result of Hurricane Maria's devastation to Puerto Rico, according to the lead author of the study.

“This was a scientific research project commissioned by the government of Puerto Rico and independently done,” said Carlos Santos-Burgoa, who led the study from George Washington University's Milken Institute of School of Public Health.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/09/13/hurricane-maria-death-t
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How Puerto Rico's Hurricane Maria death toll of 3,000 was calculated

A team of researchers spent six months poring over death certificates, speaking to funeral home directors and interviewing doctors to arrive at a death toll of nearly 3,000 people as result of Hurricane Maria's devastation to Puerto Rico, according to the lead author of the study.

“This was a scientific research project commissioned by the government of Puerto Rico and independently done,” said Carlos Santos-Burgoa, who led the study from George Washington University's Milken Institute of School of Public Health.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/09/13/hurricane-maria-death-t
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Can somebody find me a link where the study is made available.

I can think of a few reasons why some high ranking politicians in Puerto Rico would want to see those results, but I'll keep them to myself for now until the actual study can be reviewed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I see that once again our resident authoritarian liberaloids are harping on some theoretical thing being "destroyed" and yet ignoring the literal mountains of bodies that we've left in our wake.

AFA Puerto Rico is concerned... the administration of PR fucked the people a long time ago. The infrastructure was shit, the place was falling apart, AND it was bankrupt! It's not the job of FEMA to swoop in and fix decades of neglect and corruption, bringing everything to a spit-polished shine. If anyone is to blame I's start looking at the governor's level and work my way downward.

I've been harping about robustness (or - to use the latest buzzword - "resilience") and hardening our infrastructure against disaster for years. Also, the evils of fractional reserve banking and the idiocy of borrowing money from banks when they can just create it out of thin air, but then you have to pay it back with REAL money. Not running on a trade deficit. Well, this is what happens when your administration just runs off a cliff. But don't worry ... the USA has been doing exactly the same wrong things for decades. It'll be our turn in the barrel sooner or later.

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How Puerto Rico's Hurricane Maria death toll of 3,000 was calculated

A team of researchers spent six months poring over death certificates, speaking to funeral home directors and interviewing doctors to arrive at a death toll of nearly 3,000 people as result of Hurricane Maria's devastation to Puerto Rico, according to the lead author of the study.

“This was a scientific research project commissioned by the government of Puerto Rico and independently done,” said Carlos Santos-Burgoa, who led the study from George Washington University's Milken Institute of School of Public Health.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/09/13/hurricane-maria-death-t
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Can somebody find me a link where the study is made available.

I can think of a few reasons why some high ranking politicians in Puerto Rico would want to see those results, but I'll keep them to myself for now until the actual study can be reviewed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Do you have an internet connection? If you do, you can try google.com or bing.com. They can be very helpful if you're looking for information on the web.

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Which is why we go full bore at Russia now SCEOND. Which is why jack, sig, kiki, and jsf try to deny the truth and post alternative ( fake ) facts in all the discussions taking place here. I would add, to no avail.

tick tock


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Merkel: G-7 summit with Trump was a 'sobering' experience

FRANKFURT, Germany — German Chancellor Angela Merkel found the contentious Group of Seven summit with U.S. President Donald Trump a "sobering" and "depressing" experience but said European leaders won't be "taken advantage of" on trade.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/merkel-g-7-summit-with-trump-was-
a-sobering-experience/ar-AAytwie?ocid=spartanntp

Some of us called this as soon as Trump started campaigning. The rest here were at that time, and remain to this day, to be fools and trolls.

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If we focused on the facts about the economy since Obama took office Obama wins hands down. Trumps riding Obamas' wave. You clowns just refuse to look at the truth of it. Nothing new there.

Back to what is coming. You know of what I speak. tick tock.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Sociologists Blow Up the Myth that Uneducated White Voters Support Trump Because of Economic Anxiety: 'They Share His Prejudices'

https://www.alternet.org/sociologists-blow-myth-uneducated-white-voter
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Sociologists Blow Up the Myth that Uneducated White Voters Support Trump Because of Economic Anxiety: 'They Share His Prejudices'

https://www.alternet.org/sociologists-blow-myth-uneducated-white-voter
s-support-trump-because-economic-anxiety-they-share-his]

No links to actual study = Fake News.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Do you know what Google is? Here, let me help you.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%E2%80%9CThe+Anger+Games%3A+Who+Voted+
for+Donald+Trump+in+the+2016+Election%2C+and+Why%3F%E2%80%9D%2C+which+appeared+in+a+recent+issue+of+the+journal+Critical+Sociology&rlz=1C1PRFE_enUS672US672&oq=%E2%80%9CThe+Anger+Games%3A+Who+Voted+for+Donald+Trump+in+the+2016+Election%2C+and+Why%3F%E2%80%9D%2C+which+appeared+in+a+recent+issue+of+the+journal+Critical+Sociology&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

It should have been linked. Alternet is good about that. Probably a mistake.