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Chemical weapons: Are we detecting a pattern yet?

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Friday, July 20, 2018 9:56 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
I noticed:
1. That's an obvious fake CNN screen shot

Where is it? Or do you mean this: http : // youtu.be vid ?



No, I meant the screen shot you posted. Or do you mean you're apologizing for posting the fake?
Couldn't help notice that you went to Belgium Youtube .be to get the vid - that's not odd is it?!?

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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2. SIGHEIL is ramping up her chaos propaganda machine largely by just reposting ZeroSludge here.

And the source of the report itself - the OPCW.



So why not post that instead of all the ZeroSludge ? < / trick question - I'd turn back now if I were you >

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Friday, July 20, 2018 10:31 AM

THG


UK police believe multiple Russians were involved in the attempted murder of former Russian spy Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, in March.

Investigators say they identified multiple suspects through CCTV and cross-checked it with who entered the country around that time.

http://www.businessinsider.com/novichok-suspect-ids-could-back-russian
-murder-plot-theory-2018-7


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Friday, July 20, 2018 3:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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So why not post that instead of all the ZeroSludge ? < / trick question - I'd turn back now if I were you >
Trick question?


Oh! I see your problem right here: You're an idiot!

Because I DID post the OPCW article intro, AND the link, AND pointed out that I was posting both, and apparently you're one of the stupid/lazy people who are not only too stupid and lazy to follow the link in ZH, you're also too stupid and lazy to read it yourself, even when it's posted for you.

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Here is the OPCW article linked by Zerohedge. I've provided the item for those who're too stupid or too lazy to follow a simple link

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OPCW Issues Fact-Finding Mission Reports on Chemical Weapons Use Allegations in Douma, Syria in 2018 and in Al-Hamadaniya and Karm Al-Tarrab in 2016
Friday, 06 July 2018

.... The results show that no organophosphorous nerve agents or their degradation products were detected in the environmental samples or in the plasma samples taken from alleged casualties. Along with explosive residues, various chlorinated organic chemicals were found in samples from two sites, for which there is full chain of custody. Work by the team to establish the significance of these results is on-going. The FFM team will continue its work to draw final conclusions.

The Fact-Finding Mission also issued a report on 2 July 2018 addressing allegations of chemical weapons use in Al-Hamadaniya, Syria on 30 October 2016, and Karm al-Tarrab, Syria on 13 November 2016. On the basis of the information received and analysed, the prevailing narrative of the interviews, and the results of the laboratory analyses, the FFM cannot confidently determine whether or not a specific chemical was used as a weapon in the incidents that took place in the neighbourhood of Al-Hamadaniyah and in the area of Karm al-Tarrab. The FFM noted that the persons affected in the reported incidents may, in some instances, have been exposed to some type of non-persistent, irritating substance.




https://www.opcw.org/news/article/opcw-issues-fact-finding-mission-rep
orts-on-chemical-weapons-use-allegations-in-douma-syria-in-2018-and-in-al-hamadaniya-and-karm-al-tarrab-in-2016/

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Saturday, July 21, 2018 10:43 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh! I see your problem right here: You're an idiot!

Because I DID post the OPCW article intro, AND the link, AND pointed out that I was posting both, and apparently you're one of the stupid/lazy people who are not only too stupid and lazy to follow the link in ZH, you're also too stupid and lazy to read it yourself, even when it's posted for you.



Damn! I totally missed that part since I did't read that post. My bad! I might read all of one in the future though.


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Saturday, July 21, 2018 11:08 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Hey, I have a video for you that combines your two favorite topics: Robert Mueller and chemical weapons!



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Saturday, July 21, 2018 12:19 PM

THG


Sig, shove your anti American pro Russian bullshit where the sun don't shine.

I noticed you are ignoring the latest concerning the tile of this thread , the British poisonings, so I'll repost what I have posted over and over again.

THE RUSSIANS DID IT.

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Saturday, July 21, 2018 3:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yeah, and the Brits ALSO said that Iraq had WMD...



... Even tho it was LATER said that MI6 knew a year in advance that Saddam didn't have WMD.
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MI6 spy bosses knew Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction a YEAR before the war, former secret agent reveals

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/1419191/mi6-spy-bosses-knew-iraq-had-no-
weapons-of-mass-destruction-a-year-before-the-war-former-secret-agent-reveals
/

There seems to be a lot of disinformation coming out of Britain, from the "dossier" to Iraq WMD, to the whole Skripal affair, to Bellingcat and the Brit's support of White Helmets. Hmmm...

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Saturday, July 21, 2018 5:30 PM

THG


Comrade troll

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Sunday, July 22, 2018 1:30 PM

1KIKI

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Damn! I totally missed that part since I did't read that post. My bad! I might read all of one in the future though.

So ... you don't really care to not be an idiot.

But I knew that. After you've already been shown to be an idiot so many times over the years, why would you suddenly care this one time now?




SECOND is a troll because it constantly misrepresents what people post, fails to address their actual positions, and resorts to personal attacks when its brain isn't working (which is most of the time).

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Monday, September 24, 2018 10:57 AM

THG


We Now Know More About the Apparent Poisoning of the Pussy Riot Member Pyotr Verzilov

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/we-now-know-more-about-t
he-apparent-poisoning-of-the-pussy-riot-member-pyotr-verzilov


Yep there sure is a pattern. The Russians love poisoning women and children.

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Friday, May 24, 2024 10:49 AM

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Syrian Kurdish authorities hand over a British woman and 3 children linked to IS to a UK delegation
https://www.sfgate.com/news/world/article/syrian-kurdish-authorities-h
and-over-a-british-19476436.php


Despite defeat, ISIS sleeper cells launch deadly attack on SDF checkpoint
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/despite-defeat-i
sis-sleeper-cells-launch-deadly-attack-on-sdf-checkpoint/articleshow/110077954.cms

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Friday, May 24, 2024 1:09 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


To cap the accusations that Syria launched a chemical weapon attack on Douma: The OPCW report was altered by upper OPCW management to say exactly the opposite of what the on- the - ground investigators reported.

On the ground investigators reported that the incident looked like it had been STAGED. And since jihadists were in control of that area, it could only have been staged by them.

References to that and OTHER CONTRARY FINDINGS were purged from OPCW files, and the report was "adjusted" to claim that an attack had taken place.

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Today WikiLeaks releases more internal documents from the OPCW regarding the investigation into the alleged chemical attack in Douma in April 2018.

One of the documents is an e-mail exchange dated 27 and 28 February between members of the fact finding mission (FFM) deployed to Douma and the senior officials of the OPCW. It includes an e-mail from Sebastien Braha, Chief of Cabinet at the OPCW, where he instructs that an engineering report from Ian Henderson should be removed from the secure registry of the organisation:

“Please get this document out of DRA [Documents Registry Archive]... And please remove all traces, if any, of its delivery/storage/whatever in DRA”.

The main finding of Henderson, who inspected the sites in Douma and two cylinders that were found on the site of the alleged attack, was that they were more likely manually placed
[i.e. STAGED] there than dropped from a plane or helicopter from considerable heights. His findings were omitted from the official final OPCW report on the Douma incident.

Another document released today is minutes from a meeting on 6 June 2018 where four staff members of the OPCW had discussions with “three Toxicologists/Clinical pharmacologists, one bioanalytical and toxicological chemist” (all specialists in chemical weapons, according to the minutes).

The purpose of this meeting was two-fold. The first objective was

“To solicit expert advice on the value of exhuming suspected victims of the alleged chemical attack in Douma on 7 April 2018”. According to the minutes, the OPCW team was advised by the experts that there would be little use in conducting exhumations. The second point was “To elicit expert opinions from the forensic toxicologists regarding the observed and reported symptoms of the alleged victims.”

More specifically,

“...whether the symptoms observed in victims were consistent with exposure to chlorine or other reactive chlorine gas.”

According to the minutes leaked today: “With respect to the consistency of the observed and reported symptoms of the alleged victims with possible exposure to chlorine gas or similar, the experts were conclusive in their statements that there was no correlation between symptoms and chlorine exposure”.

The OPCW team members wrote that the key “take-away message” from the meeting was

“that the symptoms observed were inconsistent with exposure to chlorine and no other obvious candidate chemical causing the symptoms could be identified”.

The third document is a copy of OPCW e-mail exchanges from 20 to 28 August 2018 discussing the meeting with the toxicologists.

The fourth document is an e-mail exchange from the end of July 2018 where it is stated that the eight OPCW inspectors deployed to Douma during the fact finding mission (except one, a paramedic) should be excluded from discussions on the project.


https://wikileaks.org/opcw-douma/

What I learned from this is that the OPCW is, at the top, a non- neutral political organization that can't be trusted to provide factual results.

IMHO all of their reports can't be trusted bc there has been no internal reform since then.

"Novichok"?
Probably not.



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