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CNN?
Isn't that the same gang that claimed the Honduran kid was in custody for days without food or water, while in fact was apprehended less than 2 hours before, more than 90 minutes drive away from the nearest Border Facility - after invading by crossing our Border?

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neglected until he died.

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liar. He was taken to hospital with symptoms of a cold or flu, given a prescription, and re-admitted to the hospital for treatment.

This is like the girl who died .... apparently she had been without food or water ... not for a few hours but for DAYS ... when she was in the care of her loving father.



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"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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His father probably shouldn't have put him through that journey.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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8-year-old Guatemalan boy dies in US custody on Christmas

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/25/us/guatemalan-boy-dies-in-us-custody/in
dex.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNNi&utm_content=2018-12-25T18%3A42%3A42&utm_term=image

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CNN?
Isn't that the same gang that claimed the Guatemalen girl was in custody for days without food or water, while in fact was apprehended less than 2 hours before, more than 90 minutes drive away from the nearest Border Facility - after invading by crossing our Border?

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https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/25/us/guatemalan-boy-dies-in-us-custody/in
dex.html?utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNNi&utm_content=2018-12-25T18%3A42%3A42&utm_term=image?
Isn't that the same gang that claimed the Guatemalen girl was in custody for days without food or water, while in fact was apprehended less than 2 hours before, more than 90 minutes drive away from the nearest Border Facility - after invading by crossing our Border?

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Yes, the fucking Europeans who first landed on Plymouth Rock should have stayed in England and been fucked by King George. You know what would have stopped those scheming bastards, a WALL.

Don't worry Jack, you're not the only one to say such a stupid fucking thing.
A Hispanic friend also said something similar, and when I pointed out to him
that he was wrongheaded about this; he tried to bring up his service to our country.

Fuck that dude, this motherfucker has insulted blacks, Latinos, Jews, Muslims, etc. You think he gives two shits about you or your service...not a chance.
This fat fuck hasn't even had the balls to visit the troops in any overseas
theaters. He's a big Trump supporter, but when I tell him he thinks all Latinos are Mexican, and that he despises brown people everywhere, and that sooner or later he will find himself locked away in one of Trump's make-shift
concentration camps, he just laughs.

I told him that Trump has already revoked the military service of several Latinos who were not naturalized. He said it was fake news. Poor slob, he doesn't have a clue. If Trump survives the next two years, and gets
re-elected, it's going to happen. And if that happens, this country will top
Germany in gas-house killings and indentured servants.

Ahhh, the good old days.


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Yes, the fucking Europeans who first landed on Plymouth Rock should have stayed in England and been fucked by King George. You know what would have stopped those scheming bastards, a WALL.

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How dare these "people" try to find a better life for their families! It's an outrage!

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neglected until he died...

liar. He was taken to hospital with symptoms of a cold or flu, given a prescription, and re-admitted to the hospital for treatment.
This is like the girl who died .... apparently she had been without food or water ... not for a few hours but for DAYS ... when she was in the care of her loving father - SIGNY

This will not go well for you. Be aware of that. -SHTF

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Yes, the fucking Europeans who first landed on Plymouth Rock should have stayed in England and been fucked by King George. You know what would have stopped those scheming bastards, a WALL.

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SHINY, you're always looking that this from the perspective of the immigrant.

But for once, look at this from the perspective of the native .... the REAL natives of the Americas- indigenous tribes of N, S, and Central America and the Caribbeans.

Are you saying that unrestricted immigration worked for THEM???? Because, the reality is that many of the original natives of the Americas welcomed the new immigrants. In N America they gave them corn and turkey and save them from starvation, they "helped" the new immigrants by learning THEIR language and intermarrying with THEIR people.

What happened to them?

IN REALITY, the natives should have shot the white invaders, and kept on shooting until there was nobody left to take word back to England.

As YOU said- you look at this from personal experience. YOU are pro-immigrant, and not necessarily pro-American. You paper over this contradiction by conflating "pro-immigrant" with "pro-America" by claiming immigration is what made American great, but in reality the two aren't the same. How about we dig a little deeper: WHAT made America great? What is "America" anyway?


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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Yes, the fucking Europeans who first landed on Plymouth Rock should have stayed in England and been fucked by King George. You know what would have stopped those scheming bastards, a WALL.

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SHINY, you're always looking that this from the perspective of the immigrant.

But for once, look at this from the perspective of the native .... the REAL natives of the Americas- indigenous tribes of N, S, and Central America and the Caribbeans.

Are you saying that unrestricted immigration worked for THEM???? Because, the reality is that many of the original natives of the Americas welcomed the new immigrants. In N America they gave them corn and turkey and save them from starvation, they "helped" the new immigrants by learning THEIR language and intermarrying with THEIR people.

What happened to them?

IN REALITY, the natives should have shot the white invaders, and kept on shooting until there was nobody left to take word back to England.

As YOU said- you look at this from personal experience. YOU are pro-immigrant, and not necessarily pro-American. You paper over this contradiction by conflating "pro-immigrant" with "pro-America" by claiming immigration is what made American great, but in reality the two aren't the same. How about we dig a little deeper: WHAT made America great? What is "America" anyway?


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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The way we and I mean my Native American ancestors got guns was through trade. We gave you something that you wanted and guns were given back to us. We knew what they could do and for hunting they were better than a bow and arrow. Same thing with flour and sugar were also trade goods, white man foods. Not so good for us even now.

Columbus had 3 ships with him, and even if the tribes in Central or South America killed the crews of two. One could have gotten away and reported to Spain and word would have spread anyways about gold. More ships would have come.

Even if we killed every Englishman or in Canada the French as well. They would have kept coming. True no reports would have reached back to France or England but the oppression there would not have stopped. And people would have tried anyway to get away from it. It would not have stopped you, meaning Europeans from coming here.

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Yes, the fucking Europeans who first landed on Plymouth Rock should have stayed in England and been fucked by King George. You know what would have stopped those scheming bastards, a WALL.

Don't worry Jack, you're not the only one to say such a stupid fucking thing.
A Hispanic friend also said something similar, and when I pointed out to him
that he was wrongheaded about this; he tried to bring up his service to our country.

Fuck that dude, this motherfucker has insulted blacks, Latinos, Jews, Muslims, etc. You think he gives two shits about you or your service...not a chance.
This fat fuck hasn't even had the balls to visit the troops in any overseas
theaters. He's a big Trump supporter, but when I tell him he thinks all Latinos are Mexican, and that he despises brown people everywhere, and that sooner or later he will find himself locked away in one of Trump's make-shift
concentration camps, he just laughs.

I told him that Trump has already revoked the military service of several Latinos who were not naturalized. He said it was fake news. Poor slob, he doesn't have a clue. If Trump survives the next two years, and gets
re-elected, it's going to happen. And if that happens, this country will top
Germany in gas-house killings and indentured servants.

Ahhh, the good old days.


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LOL. Even your Hispanic friend knows you're wrong about EVERYTHING. But you're too busy with your white knighting to bother yourself with facts. You know better, huh? Good thing he has a smart white friend to do all of the heavy thinking for him.

Of course he laughs. Everything you say to him is ridiculous.

Guatemala can't be all that bad, brother. They have a democratically elected president who was a former TV comedian with no political experience. The article in the OP states that "Guatemala's Foreign Ministry in a statement Tuesday also asked for an investigation and access to the boy's medical records." Hardly something that an oppressive regime would be interested in.

... That is, of course, unless the father was a criminal and was fleeing the country and the Guatemalan government is using this boy's death as a way to get info on where exactly the father is right now. We know nothing about this man other than his country of origin.



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Yes, the fucking Europeans who first landed on Plymouth Rock should have stayed in England and been fucked by King George. You know what would have stopped those scheming bastards, a WALL.

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SHINY, you're always looking that this from the perspective of the immigrant.

But for once, look at this from the perspective of the native .... the REAL natives of the Americas- indigenous tribes of N, S, and Central America and the Caribbeans.

Are you saying that unrestricted immigration worked for THEM???? Because, the reality is that many of the original natives of the Americas welcomed the new immigrants. In N America they gave them corn and turkey and save them from starvation, they "helped" the new immigrants by learning THEIR language and intermarrying with THEIR people.

What happened to them?

IN REALITY, the natives should have shot the white invaders, and kept on shooting until there was nobody left to take word back to England.

As YOU said- you look at this from personal experience. YOU are pro-immigrant, and not necessarily pro-American. You paper over this contradiction by conflating "pro-immigrant" with "pro-America" by claiming immigration is what made American great, but in reality the two aren't the same. How about we dig a little deeper: WHAT made America great? What is "America" anyway?


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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The way we and I mean my Native American ancestors got guns was through trade. We gave you something that you wanted and guns were given back to us. We knew what they could do and for hunting they were better than a bow and arrow. Same thing with flour and sugar were also trade goods, white man foods. Not so good for us even now.

Columbus had 3 ships with him, and even if the tribes in Central or South America killed the crews of two. One could have gotten away and reported to Spain and word would have spread anyways about gold. More ships would have come.

Even if we killed every Englishman or in Canada the French as well. They would have kept coming. True no reports would have reached back to France or England but the oppression there would not have stopped. And people would have tried anyway to get away from it. It would not have stopped you, meaning Europeans from coming here.

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All true.

The native population here never stood a chance because of numbers and superior technology.

We can stop the same thing from happening now if we can get over the liberal propaganda element.



It sounds like Christmas in Guatemala is a fun time.

https://www.whychristmas.com/cultures/guatemala.shtml

Too bad this kid's father put him through what he did. Did he realize that parents here can face jail time and have their kids taken away from them if they are latchkey kids like I grew up raising my brothers back in the 90s? I don't think the father would have made it here very long before DCFS took his son away.



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He was fine when he got here. Perhaps he shouldn't have been seized, locked up, and neglected until he died.

We have laws. Your fascist hero ignores what's right, in order to fan the deep hatred you feel for anyone not as backward as you.

Being so gullible and not very bright, you swallow the shit whole.

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Yes, the fucking Europeans who first landed on Plymouth Rock should have stayed in England and been fucked by King George. You know what would have stopped those scheming bastards, a WALL.

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SHINY, you're always looking that this from the perspective of the immigrant.

But for once, look at this from the perspective of the native .... the REAL natives of the Americas- indigenous tribes of N, S, and Central America and the Caribbeans.

Are you saying that unrestricted immigration worked for THEM???? Because, the reality is that many of the original natives of the Americas welcomed the new immigrants. In N America they gave them corn and turkey and save them from starvation, they "helped" the new immigrants by learning THEIR language and intermarrying with THEIR people.

What happened to them?

IN REALITY, the natives should have shot the white invaders, and kept on shooting until there was nobody left to take word back to England.

As YOU said- you look at this from personal experience. YOU are pro-immigrant, and not necessarily pro-American. You paper over this contradiction by conflating "pro-immigrant" with "pro-America" by claiming immigration is what made American great, but in reality the two aren't the same. How about we dig a little deeper: WHAT made America great? What is "America" anyway?

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The way we and I mean my Native American ancestors got guns was through trade. We gave you something that you wanted and guns were given back to us. We knew what they could do and for hunting they were better than a bow and arrow. Same thing with flour and sugar were also trade goods, white man foods. Not so good for us even now.

Columbus had 3 ships with him, and even if the tribes in Central or South America killed the crews of two. One could have gotten away and reported to Spain and word would have spread anyways about gold. More ships would have come.

Even if we killed every Englishman or in Canada the French as well. They would have kept coming. True no reports would have reached back to France or England but the oppression there would not have stopped. And people would have tried anyway to get away from it. It would not have stopped you, meaning Europeans from coming here.

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Nobody has time for your white guilt, SGG. Go cry about it to somebody who cares.

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Yes, the fucking Europeans who first landed on Plymouth Rock should have stayed in England and been fucked by King George. You know what would have stopped those scheming bastards, a WALL.

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SHINY, you're always looking that this from the perspective of the immigrant.

But for once, look at this from the perspective of the native .... the REAL natives of the Americas- indigenous tribes of N, S, and Central America and the Caribbeans.

Are you saying that unrestricted immigration worked for THEM???? Because, the reality is that many of the original natives of the Americas welcomed the new immigrants. In N America they gave them corn and turkey and save them from starvation, they "helped" the new immigrants by learning THEIR language and intermarrying with THEIR people.

What happened to them?

IN REALITY, the natives should have shot the white invaders, and kept on shooting until there was nobody left to take word back to England.

As YOU said- you look at this from personal experience. YOU are pro-immigrant, and not necessarily pro-American. You paper over this contradiction by conflating "pro-immigrant" with "pro-America" by claiming immigration is what made American great, but in reality the two aren't the same. How about we dig a little deeper: WHAT made America great? What is "America" anyway?

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The way we and I mean my Native American ancestors got guns was through trade. We gave you something that you wanted and guns were given back to us. We knew what they could do and for hunting they were better than a bow and arrow. Same thing with flour and sugar were also trade goods, white man foods. Not so good for us even now.

Columbus had 3 ships with him, and even if the tribes in Central or South America killed the crews of two. One could have gotten away and reported to Spain and word would have spread anyways about gold. More ships would have come.

Even if we killed every Englishman or in Canada the French as well. They would have kept coming. True no reports would have reached back to France or England but the oppression there would not have stopped. And people would have tried anyway to get away from it. It would not have stopped you, meaning Europeans from coming here.

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Using hindsight, it is a shame the Native Americans were not more robust.
Rumor is, they had the whole continent to themselves for 1,000 years or more. England had a population around BC which was sporadic, then effectively overran the borders within 1,000 years.
Man's innate drive to fight and kill fellow Man withered their ranks. Think of all the generations who died from War between Tribes/Nations. Such potential. Lost.

Although the Natives were obviously Occidental, the assumption was that Columbus had overshot the Orient, and these resembled most closely the stories of India Natives. Europeans had dealt pleasantly and peaceably with India, and it was reasonable that such cooperation would result here.
Failures at communication in this previously unknown dialect of India likely caused attacks which were not foreseen, thus creating such a combative reaction.

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BRENDA ... by "shoot" I didn't mean with guns, I meant with arrows or poison darts or whatever tribes/ nations used in their areas.

And actually almost since nobody expected Columbus to succeed, it wouldn't have surprised anyone if they never came back. Remember, in the day most people thought that the earth was flat and would have assumed that he went off the edge.

An early Greek astronomer/geographer/geometer (Eratosthenes) long before estimated the circumference of the earth (by measuring the different shadow angle of vertical pillars in two different cities) at about 25,000 miles, and the educated people of the day, even knowing that the earth wasn't flat, just assumed that the journey was too long to be survivable. Because please remember that Columbus wasn't looking for the "new world", he was looking for a shorter route to the Orient. So if he and his successors never returned, the investors would have shrugged and simply assumed that for whatever reason the journey just wasn't doable, and simply not invested much more money into it. That might have delayed the invasion of the "New" World by a century or so.



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Yes, the fucking Europeans who first landed on Plymouth Rock should have stayed in England and been fucked by King George. You know what would have stopped those scheming bastards, a WALL.

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SHINY, you're always looking that this from the perspective of the immigrant.

But for once, look at this from the perspective of the native .... the REAL natives of the Americas- indigenous tribes of N, S, and Central America and the Caribbeans.

Are you saying that unrestricted immigration worked for THEM???? Because, the reality is that many of the original natives of the Americas welcomed the new immigrants. In N America they gave them corn and turkey and save them from starvation, they "helped" the new immigrants by learning THEIR language and intermarrying with THEIR people.

What happened to them?

IN REALITY, the natives should have shot the white invaders, and kept on shooting until there was nobody left to take word back to England.

As YOU said- you look at this from personal experience. YOU are pro-immigrant, and not necessarily pro-American. You paper over this contradiction by conflating "pro-immigrant" with "pro-America" by claiming immigration is what made American great, but in reality the two aren't the same. How about we dig a little deeper: WHAT made America great? What is "America" anyway?


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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liar. He was taken to hospital with symptoms of a cold or flu, given a prescription, and re-admitted to the hospital for treatment.

This is like the girl who died .... apparently she had been without food or water ... not for a few hours but for DAYS ... when she was in the care of her loving father.



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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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SHINY, you obviously believe what you want to believe, but a clear reading of history says that when a large migrant population moves in, the natives don't fare well. There have been many mass migrations in human history in which the natives were overtaken by the immigrants. Oh, and BTW, it's not like the white man didn't deliberately slaughter hundreds of thousands of native; it wasn't just a passive invasion by germs that killed natives it was deliberate genocide.

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Heck, even the invasion of Europe and Asia by Homo Sapiens didn't work out too well for the Neanderthals and Denisovans. Migrations do NOT always work out for the natives, so get your head out of wherever it is and look at reality.


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In any case, MY reaction to migrants is that we need to represent Americans first. We treat illegal aliens better than we treat many of our own citizens. Heck, we have homeless families out on the street who dodn't get the help that illegal aliens are getting.

Except for the fact that we have meddled in their nations, we have no moral obligation to take in a lot of migrants. We would be better off ending our interventionism in other nations and working to improve living conditions there instead (and not as just another corporate invasion.)


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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neglected until he died. - REAVERSGIT

liar. He was taken to hospital with symptoms of a cold or flu, given a prescription, and re-admitted to the hospital for treatment. This is like the girl who died .... apparently she had been without food or water ... not for a few hours but for DAYS ... when she was in the care of her loving father.= SIGNY

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They say that, on December 24, a U.S. Border Patrol agent noticed [THE FATHER DIDN'T NOTICE?] that the child showed symptoms of illness, so the boy and his father were transferred to the Gerald Champion Regional Medical Center in Alamogordo, N.M. And the child was released midafternoon with prescriptions for an antibiotic and ibuprofen.

But, later that night, he began vomiting and was transferred back to the medical center, where he died shortly after midnight this morning. - NPR

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The girl and her father were taken into custody around 10 p.m. Dec. 6, accused of illegally crossing into the United States, Border Patrol officials told The Washington Post. The group of 163 people approached CBP agents south of Lordsburg, New Mexico, to turn themselves in.

The Associated Press reported that an official with Guatemala’s foreign ministry identified the girl as Jackeline Caal. Her father was identified as Nery Caal, 29, of Raxruha, a town in the northern Guatemalan department of Alta Verapaz.

Ministry officials told the AP that Jackeline was feverish and vomiting as she and the other migrants were being taken to the Border Patrol station in Lordsburg.

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Using hindsight, it is a shame the Native Americans were not more robust.
Rumor is, they had the whole continent to themselves for 1,000 years or more. England had a population around BC which was sporadic, then effectively overran the borders within 1,000 years.
Man's innate drive to fight and kill fellow Man withered their ranks. Think of all the generations who died from War between Tribes/Nations. Such potential. Lost.- JSF

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Do you not know of the history of the British Empire with what is now India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and China?

It's a history of extreme violence bordering on genocide, and rapacious exploitation. I suggest you look it up.

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The Opium Wars were two wars in the mid-19th century involving China and the British Empire over the British trade of opium and China's sovereignty. The clashes included the First Opium War (1839–1842) and the Second Opium War (1856–1860). The wars and events between them weakened the Qing dynasty and forced China to trade with the other parts of the world.[1][2]

In 1820, China's economy was the largest in the world, according to British economist Angus Maddison.[3] Within a decade after the end of the Second Opium War, China's share of global GDP had fallen by half.[4] In another research paper published by Michael Cemblast of JP Morgan[citation needed] and updated by the World Economic Forum, similar conclusions were reached—i.e. China was the largest economy in the world for many centuries until the Opium Wars.[3]

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neglected until he died...

liar. He was taken to hospital with symptoms of a cold or flu, given a prescription, and re-admitted to the hospital for treatment.
This is like the girl who died .... apparently she had been without food or water ... not for a few hours but for DAYS ... when she was in the care of her loving father - SIGNY

This will not go well for you. Be aware of that. -SHTF

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Hey REAVERSHIT:

1) You're resorting to THREATS now? Maybe you should be banned?
2) Take it up with NPR, dickwad. That's what they reported.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Migrant Baby Contracted Pneumonia After Five Days in a ‘Freezing’ Holding Cell
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/migrant-baby-got-pneumonia-afte
r-days-in-freezing-cell.html

Parents' fault?

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Migrant Baby Contracted Pneumonia After Five Days in a ‘Freezing’ Holding Cell
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/migrant-baby-got-pneumonia-afte
r-days-in-freezing-cell.html

Parents' fault?

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I have a daughter and she has been disabled for her whole life, and I can't imagine myself, or ANY mother subjecting her precious child through such pointless rigors.

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You're already HERE, so congrats on arguing the deaf, dumb and blind side. If you thought the only salvation for your daughter was to flee to Mexico, would you?- GSTRING

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Ok, she SAID she was in an abusive relationship.

If I were in her (alleged) shoes, I'd think about going back home to mom, or hitting up one of my siblings for a temporary living space, or looking for a woman's shelter, (absent those resources) getting a divorce or moving to another part of town, or to another city, well before I committed to taking my baby on a 1000-mile journey to the Canadian border. I mean, seriously, what the hell was she thinking?

"Solving" her problem like that is like shooting at a rat with a missile ... kind of overkill, and destructive.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Ok, she SAID she was in an abusive relationship.

If I were in her (alleged) shoes, I'd think about going back home to mom, or hitting up one of my siblings for a temporary living space, or looking for a woman's shelter, (absent those resources) getting a divorce or moving to another part of town, or to another city, well before I committed to taking my baby on a 1000-mile journey to the Canadian border. I mean, seriously, what the hell was she thinking?

"Solving" her problem like that is like shooting at a rat with a missile ... kind of overkill, and destructive.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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I don't believe any of the story, period.

I won't go full Alex Jones and say that there was no kid. I'm sure a mother did try to cross with her kid and the kid did in fact die of illness.

But the rest of the story surrounding her just seems to have been invented to hit all the right liberal buttons to sensationalize things, especially during the height of the #MeToo movement.

It's no different than the OP bringing up the completely incidental fact that the kid died on Christmas day. Just manipulating emotions of the feeble minded is all.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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