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Wednesday, March 20, 2019 4:21 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


No you twit. I'm saying Bush's crashed economy started the downturn in CO2 emissions. But if you want to give Obama credit for not restoring the economy, I'm with you.

OR --- you can make your case. What did Obama DO - cite specific actions, with links - that caused CO2 emissions to drop in his first year?

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Thursday, March 21, 2019 7:05 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
OR --- you can make your case. What did Obama DO - cite specific actions, with links - that caused CO2 emissions to drop in his first year?


"... in his first year..." Who said "first year?" You keep stepping it, Gladys. Why didn't you say, "show what he did in his first hour in office?"

And you are also saying we should credit Bush with reducing greenhouse emissions... because he crashed the economy? Ok...

Obama cleans it up:

https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/usa-obama-announces-major-clim
ate-change-plan-to-reduce-greenhouse-gas-emissions

4 August 2015
Environmental Protection Agency announcement
Author: US Environmental Protection Agency
"Clean Power Plan for Existing Power Plants"
…On August 3, 2015, President Obama and EPA announced the Clean Power Plan – a historic and important step in reducing carbon pollution from power plants that takes real action on climate change. Shaped by years of unprecedented outreach and public engagement, the final Clean Power Plan is fair, flexible and designed to strengthen the fast-growing trend toward cleaner and lower-polluting American energy. With strong but achievable standards for power plants, and customized goals for states to cut the carbon pollution that is driving climate change, the Clean Power Plan provides national consistency, accountability and a level playing field while reflecting each state’s energy mix. It also shows the world that the United States is committed to leading global efforts to address climate change...

Then Trump's EPA f*cks it up:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/09/climate/clean-power-plan.html

WASHINGTON — The Environmental Protection Agency announced on Tuesday that Scott Pruitt, the chief of the agency, had signed a measure to repeal President Barack Obama’s signature policy to curb greenhouse gas emissions from power plants, setting up a bitter fight over the future of America’s efforts to tackle global warming.

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Thursday, March 21, 2019 7:36 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Once again, let's see the charts for China's pollution.

90% of the shit that you buy that you don't need comes from there.

You shouldn't allow yourselves to sleep better at night knowing that the pollution from all that crap you bought is half a world away.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, March 21, 2019 8:15 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Hey there GEEBERS!

How about a small lesson in chart reading and history? But first let me point out something helpful abut the chart. You don't need to draw horizontal lines to the left-hand axis and try to visually interpolate numbers to see what the CO2 emissions were for any year-bar. Nope. The emissions are very clearly given on top of each bar.

Clinton was president during the years 1993 through 2000 (out of office in Jan 2001). During that time CO2 emissions rose from 6537 to 7231. Calculating that out and rounding, that was an 11% rise in CO2 emissions. GREAT JOB BILL!!! Way to show how democrats protect the environment! Right?

dubya was president during the years 2001 through 2008 (out of office in Jan 2009). During that time CO2 emissions rose from 7112 to 7152. Calculating that out and rounding, that was a 1% rise in CO2 emissions. BAD BUSH!!! You destroyed the planet! Like all republicans! Right?

Then in 2009 CO2 emissions fell in the very first year of the Obama presidency to 6706. OBVIOUSLY if you're going to give him credit for that CO2 emissions drop - and as you've already asserted - he must have done SOMETHING extraordinarily effective in his VERY FIRST YEAR.

What was it? What did OBAMA do that first year that caused that drop?

Be specific, with links.



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Monday, March 25, 2019 12:12 PM

REAVERFAN


How humans derailed the Earth's climate in just 160 years
https://m.phys.org/news/2019-03-humans-derailed-earth-climate-injust.h
tml


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Wednesday, March 27, 2019 8:22 AM

REAVERFAN


Meteorologist Nick Humphrey: "...we as a species are on the brink of implosion from our inability to deal with the extreme changes underway. Not that we could deal with them anyways. Physical laws on the books for 14 billion years are commanding authority..."
https://www.patreon.com/posts/25635061

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Wednesday, March 27, 2019 9:58 AM

REAVERFAN


Sharp rise in Arctic temperatures now inevitable – UN
Temperatures likely to rise by 3-5C above pre-industrial levels even if Paris goals met
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/mar/13/arctic-temperature
-rises-must-be-urgently-tackled-warns-un

We hit 5C, it's over. Mass extinction, uninhabitable planet.

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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 1:46 PM

REAVERFAN


How Climate Change Is Fuelling the U.S. Border Crisis
In the western highlands of Guatemala, the question is no longer whether someone will leave but when.
https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/how-climate-change-is-fuelling
-the-us-border-crisis?utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_040319&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bdf44f92a077c67cd7cb6b2&user_id=55358054&esrc=&utm_term=TNY_Daily

“In the higher part of town, there have been more frosts than there used to be, and they kill an entire harvest in one fell swoop,” he said. “In the lower part of Climentoro, there’s been much less rain and new sorts of pests.” He added, “Farmers have been abandoning their land.”

In a sixteen-hundred-page analysis, government scientists described wildfires in California, the collapse of infrastructure in the South, crop shortages in the Midwest, and catastrophic flooding. The President publicly dismissed the findings. “As to whether or not it’s man-made and whether or not the effects that you’re talking about are there, I don’t see it,” he said. There was a deeper layer of denial in this, since overlooking these effects meant turning a blind eye to one of the major forces driving migration to the border. “There are always a lot of reasons why people migrate,” Yarsinio Palacios, an expert on forestry in Guatemala, told me. “Maybe a family member is sick. Maybe they are trying to make up for losses from the previous year. But in every situation, it has something to do with climate change.

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Wednesday, April 3, 2019 4:55 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


https://www.salon.com/2019/04/02/another-whale-is-dead-poisoned-by-pla
stic-and-scientists-predict-there-will-be-many-more/

Another whale is dead, poisoned by 48 lbs of plastic, and scientists fear there will be many more

Disposable dishes, shopping bags, fishing nets, a laundry detergent package with its barcode still detectable and a corrugated tube are just a few of the many items that made up the 48 pounds of plastic that killed a sperm whale in the Mediterranean Sea last Thursday. The carcass washed ashore in Porto Cervo, on the Italian island of Sardinia. The young female sperm whale was also carrying a fetus.

"She was pregnant and had almost certainly aborted before she beached," Luca Bittau, president of the SeaMe group, told CNN. "The fetus was in an advanced state of (de)composition."

If this sounds like a familiar story, it is.

In March, a whale was found dead on a Philippine beach with 88 pounds of plastic in its body. Last November, a dead sperm whale found on Kapota Island, in southeast Sulawesi, Indonesia, with 88 pounds of plastic in its stomach, which included 25 plastic bags, 115 plastic cups and two flip-flop sandals. Another sperm whale died in Spain after being unable to digest more than 60 pounds of plastic trash in April 2018. The world’s cetaceans are choking and dying on plastic.

More than 8.8 million tons of plastic end up in the oceans each year, according to the World Wildlife.

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Friday, April 5, 2019 5:19 PM

REAVERFAN


Meat And Agriculture Are Worse For The Climate Than Power Generation, Steven Chu Says
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2019/04/04/meat-and-agricultu
re-are-worse-for-the-climate-than-dirty-energy-steven-chu-says/#352bfa6a11f9

"If cattle and dairy cows were a country, they would have more greenhouse gas emissions than the entire EU 28," said Chu, who recently assumed the presidency of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

"Just something to think about.”

Chu lumped the greenhouse gas emissions from meat and dairy with other agricultural practices, such as fertilizer, and land-use changes, such as deforestation and soil disruption. He weighted the resulting greenhouse gases for lifetime and potency, showing that emissions from agriculture are a bigger problem than emissions from energy.


"Let me say it again: agriculture and land-use generates more greenhouse gas emissions than power generation."

Chu described the unnatural effects of industrial agriculture: what he called "oversexed corn" that devotes all its life energy to making giant kernels, pigs that gain 280 pounds in a matter of months, turkeys so breast-heavy they can't mate and must be artificially inseminated—a planet dominated by animals modified and raised and slaughtered to feed humans.

"Let me tell you how the carbon mass of animals is distributed," Chu said, referring to a recent study of biomass on earth. "Humans and the animals we eat are 96 percent of the carbon mass (of mammals) in the world."

He pointed at the smallest sliver on a chart. "That’s all the buffalo and rats and mice and lions and tigers and bears: 4 percent."

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 4:19 AM

REAVERFAN


At least 10 dead in Rio de Janeiro after a month's worth of rain falls in just 4 hours
City unprepared for deluge and in 'crisis' mode, mayor says
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/brazil-rio-rain-deaths-1.5091370?cmp=rss
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Denver will be 80 degrees today. Then, it will snow tomorrow, with the potential for a bomb cyclone to generate
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/us/bomb-cyclone-denver-weather-trnd/ind
ex.html

The twin cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul will also see wild swings in temperature. Minneapolis hit 70 degrees on Monday; by Thursday, the city will experience full-blown blizzard conditions, including 8 to 12 inches of snow.
Meantime, parts of South Dakota could get 30 inches of snow.

Heavens! Why all the crazy weather? What on earth could be causing it?



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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:23 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I blame Second's cow farts.... because why not?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:14 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I blame Second's cow farts.... because why not?

Do Right, Be Right. :)
I release more methane from natural gas leaks than from cows. That is because Trump has an executive order cancelling all the Obama years EPA rules about fugitive emissions of methane from oil and natural gas fields.

http://blogs.edf.org/energyexchange/2018/12/13/epa-methane-rollbacks-c
ontradict-agencys-own-scientific-findings/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:28 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I blame Second's cow farts.... because why not?

Do Right, Be Right. :)
I release more methane from natural gas leaks than from cows. That is because Trump has an executive order cancelling all the Obama years EPA rules about fugitive emissions of methane from oil and natural gas fields.

http://blogs.edf.org/energyexchange/2018/12/13/epa-methane-rollbacks-c
ontradict-agencys-own-scientific-findings/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Don't beat yourself up buddy. I fart a lot since I went gluten free.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 9:41 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Don't beat yourself up buddy. I fart a lot since I went gluten free.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
The Trump EPA proposal targets methane leak detection efforts, otherwise known as leak detection and repair (LDAR), by significantly decreasing the frequency of routine operator equipment visits conducted to check for methane leaks.

Trump's EPA is proposing to exempt Texas well production sites from LDAR requirements, leaving the vast majority of wells currently subject to the New Source Performance Standards (NSPS) in Texas unregulated.

http://blogs.edf.org/energyexchange/2018/12/13/epa-methane-rollbacks-c
ontradict-agencys-own-scientific-findings/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, April 10, 2019 10:15 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


The last time carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere were as high as they are today, sea levels were 65 feet higher and it was so warm that trees grew in Antarctica.

While the discovery is remarkable, it’s implications are dire. Twenty metres of sea level rise would have a major impact on our all our coastal cities.

Current CO2 levels of 410 parts per million (ppm) were last seen on Earth three million years ago, according to the most detailed reconstruction of the Earth’s climate by researchers at the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research (PIK) and published in Science Advances.

Their in-depth analysis of plant fossils and sediments reveal that such CO2 levels were last seen in the late Pliocene Epoch, a time when there were no ice sheets covering either Greenland or West Antarctica, and much of the East Antarctic ice sheet was gone. Temperatures were up to 7 degrees Fahrenheit warmer globally, at least double that at the poles, and sea levels were some 20 meters (65 feet) higher.

The choices we make now determine whether we blow past 65 feet of sea level rise to beyond 200 feet. The climate policy agenda President Donald Trump is pushing — actions that include rolling back U.S. laws that reduce carbon pollution and abandoning the Paris climate agreement — would lock us in to such high CO2 levels, sea levels would rise a foot per decade in just a few decades.

“This is an amazing discovery,” Jane Francis, director of the British Antarctic Survey, told The UK Guardian. “They found fossil leaves of southern beech. I call them the last forests of Antarctica.”

https://thinkprogress.org/carbon-dioxide-levels-sea-antarctica-b435497
e1266/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, April 11, 2019 5:09 PM

REAVERFAN


No one will survive it. When the majority of species die off, so will we.

In blow to climate, coal plants emitted more than ever in 2018
“We are headed for disaster, and nobody seems to be able to slow things down,” a Stanford University professor said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2019/03/26/blow-cli
mate-coal-plants-emitted-more-than-ever/?utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.ecd0f9b78160

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Friday, April 12, 2019 8:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


You two must be great at parties.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, April 13, 2019 3:35 PM

REAVERFAN


Central American Farmers Head to the U.S., Fleeing Climate Change
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/13/world/americas/coffee-climate-chang
e-migration.html

The challenges of agricultural life in Honduras have always been mighty, from poverty and a neglectful government to the swings of international commodity prices.

But farmers, agricultural scientists and industry officials say a new threat has been ruining harvests, upending lives and adding to the surge of families migrating to the United States: climate change.

And their worries are increasingly shared by climate scientists as well.

Gradually rising temperatures, more extreme weather events and increasingly unpredictable patterns — like rain not falling when it should, or pouring when it shouldn’t — have disrupted growing cycles and promoted the relentless spread of pests.

The obstacles have cut crop production or wiped out entire harvests, leaving already poor families destitute.

This is only going to keep getting worse.

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 10:21 AM

REAVERFAN


Satellite confirms key NASA temperature data: The planet is warming — and fast
New evidence suggests one of the most important climate change data sets is getting the right answer.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2019/04/17/satellit
e-confirms-key-nasa-temperature-data-planet-is-warming-fast/?noredirect=on&utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.6e96fd14209f

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 11:14 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2019/04/great-debate-over-
when-anthropocene-started/587194/?utm_source=pocket-newtab

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Thursday, April 18, 2019 5:28 PM

REAVERFAN


Trump Appoints Stephen Moore, ALEC’s Favorite Economist, to Fed
https://www.exposedbycmd.org/2019/04/17/trump-appoints-stephen-moore-a
lecs-favorite-economist-fed/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=7e74d70e-2149-4666-a064-c06848541999

Republicans will never admit what's happening.

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Saturday, April 20, 2019 7:12 PM

REAVERFAN


Our leaders are ignoring global warming to the point of criminal negligence. It's unforgivable

Humanity survived the cold war because no one pushed the button. On climate change, the button has been pushed again and again
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/20/our-leaders-are-ig
noring-global-warming-to-the-point-of-criminal-negligence-its-unforgivable

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Sunday, April 21, 2019 8:47 AM

REAVERFAN


When Did Moral Clarity Become Radical?
The Green New Deal has been called a political “loser.” But back in 1988, both parties saw climate legislation as sensible.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/20/opinion/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-gr
een-new-deal.html

It was not so long ago that a young congresswoman proposed major climate legislation that would transform the national energy system and, with it, the economy. Speaking on the floor of the House, she lamented the tens of billions of dollars in federal handouts to the fossil fuel industry and the government’s failure to adopt its own scientists’ recommendations. She warned of the “very high risk of irreversible and catastrophic impact looming on the horizon” if the United States failed to act.

“We have the facts,” she said. “The crisis is here. The time to move from rhetoric into action is also here.”

The congresswoman was Claudine Schneider, a Republican from Rhode Island. The bill was the Global Warming Prevention Act of 1988.


Like the Green New Deal, the 1988 bills were calculated to shape the debate in the years to come. “I don’t believe it’s going to pass tomorrow,” Mr. Wirth said at the time. “You can throw up your hands and say, ‘Well, there’s no way we can do it,’ or you can dig in and whack away at it.” Ms. Schneider felt the same way. When she reintroduced the bill in 1989 it received more than a hundred additional sponsors, and ultimately several sections did pass, increasing the research and development budget for energy-efficiency programs by 30 percent.
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But by then the public debate had been derailed — by the oil and gas industry’s campaign to poison any effort to pass climate policy and to question the decade-old scientific consensus; by President George H.W. Bush’s economic council, which had come out in force against emissions reductions; and by right-wing congressional Republicans. Negotiations for a binding global treaty fell apart and the Persian Gulf war began.

In the years that followed, climate policy became an afterthought, then a partisan issue, then a casualty of the Republican Party’s delirious embrace of industry propaganda and self-delusion — until now, when it has become a matter of life and death.
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This marks a profound turning point, not only in political messaging but also in our understanding of the scale of what we’re up against. It is this message — not airplane bans or “farting cows” or a Stone Age redux — that terrifies the powerful and the complicit. It is moral clarity, in the United States of 2019, that passes as radical.

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Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:14 AM

REAVERFAN


Republicans Are Trying To BAN New Wind Power Projects


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Sunday, April 21, 2019 1:58 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!



Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
As the seas rise, Republicans will deserve all the blame their grandchildren assign them
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/as-the-seas-rise-republicans-w
ill-deserve-all-the-blame-their-grandchildren-assign-them/2019/04/12/de26f7ec-5c88-11e9-842d-7d3ed7eb3957_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.f1d0f733aaa3

Show me a democrat in the current presidential field with climate change front and center. Show me Pelosi, Speaker of the House, crafting the needed climate change policies. Show me Schumer, Senate Minority Leader, stumping for a climate change focus.

What?? WHAT??? Do I hear anything over the democrats' din of TRUMP!TRUMP!TRUMP! ?

... ... ...

... ... ... ... ... ...

nope

As I mentioned elsewhere, there are 2 things on my priority list
1 avoiding nuclear war
2 global climate change

And unless democrats at all levels make these a concern, I will not be voting 'democrat' again. Why the fuck do I want to vote for a bunch of useless, self-serving hypocrites?

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Wednesday, April 24, 2019 11:21 AM

REAVERFAN


I already proved it, troll. Every effort by Democrats has been crushed by Republicans, every time.

The Rapid Decline Of The Natural World Is A Crisis Even Bigger Than Climate Change

A three-year UN-backed study from the Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform On Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services has grim implications for the future of humanity.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/nature-destruction-climate-chan
ge-world-biodiversity_n_5c49e78ce4b06ba6d3bb2d44?guccounter=1

Nature is in freefall and the planet’s support systems are so stretched that we face widespread species extinctions and mass human migration unless urgent action is taken. That’s the warning hundreds of scientists are preparing to give, and it’s stark.

The last year has seen a slew of brutal and terrifying warnings about the threat climate change poses to life. Far less talked about but just as dangerous, if not more so, is the rapid decline of the natural world. The felling of forests, the over-exploitation of seas and soils, and the pollution of air and water are together driving the living world to the brink, according to a huge three-year, U.N.-backed landmark study to be published in May.

The study from the Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform On Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services (IPBES), expected to run to over 8,000 pages, is being compiled by more than 500 experts in 50 countries. It is the greatest attempt yet to assess the state of life on Earth and will show how tens of thousands of species are at high risk of extinction, how countries are using nature at a rate that far exceeds its ability to renew itself, and how nature’s ability to contribute food and fresh water to a growing human population is being compromised in every region on earth.

This is why we're going to go extinct.

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Thursday, April 25, 2019 2:34 PM

REAVERFAN


Emissions from thawing Arctic permafrost may be 12 times higher than thought, scientists say
‘This needs to be taken more seriously than it is right now,’ says author of new study
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/global-warming-greenhouse-ga
ses-emissions-arctic-alaska-a8874456.html?fbclid=IwAR1V24V8zEpJYvnwckxP8x4r1nsDQ6XXij7WP4a7CMVdkfKK_21zXTph_PA&utm_source=reddit.com

We're about to wipe out most life on earth, including ourselves.

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Thursday, April 25, 2019 2:51 PM

REAVERFAN

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Thursday, April 25, 2019 3:05 PM

REAVERFAN


We are heading for a New Cretaceous, not for a new normal
https://aeon.co/amp/ideas/we-are-heading-for-a-new-cretaceous-not-for-
a-new-normal

We have recently become aware of a red line that humans are going to hit long before we approach Cretaceous conditions. In 2010, researchers showed that our species cannot survive for more than six hours at what’s called a ‘wet bulb’ temperature of 35°C (95°F). Wet bulb here means 100 per cent humidity, so it’s not 35°C as we know it. But in the great Indian agricultural belts of the Indus and Ganges, high-40s temperatures combined with 50 per cent humidity (which equates to that wet-bulb temperature of 35°C ) are going to prevail within decades.

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Friday, April 26, 2019 3:56 PM

REAVERFAN


We Have Five Years To Save Ourselves From Climate Change, Harvard Scientist Says
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2018/01/15/carbon-pollution-h
as-shoved-the-climate-backward-at-least-12-million-years-harvard-scientist-says/amp/?fbclid=IwAR0Tta0rc98LA2Sw19te002EzXrdyCqvqVzf7lQn00TjZUiRIO59_7w87nM&__twitter_impression=true

People have the misapprehension that we can recover from this state just by reducing carbon emissions, Anderson said in an appearance at the University of Chicago. Recovery is all but impossible, he argued, without a World War II-style transformation of industry—an acceleration of the effort to halt carbon pollution and remove it from the atmosphere, and a new effort to reflect sunlight away from the earth’s poles.

This has do be done, Anderson added, within the next five years.

“The chance that there will be any permanent ice left in the Arctic after 2022 is essentially zero,” Anderson said, with 75 to 80 percent of permanent ice having melted already in the last 35 years.

“Can we lose 75-80 percent of permanent ice and recover? The answer is no.”

The answer is no in part because of what scientists call feedbacks, some of the ways the earth responds to warming. Among those feedbacks is the release of methane currently trapped in permafrost and under the sea, which will exacerbate warming. Another is the pending collapse of the Greenland ice sheet, which Anderson said will raise sea level by 7 meters (about 23 feet).

“People at this point haven’t come to grips with the irreversibility of this sea-level rise problem,” Anderson said, displaying a map that shows the site of Harvard’s new $10 billion Allston campus inundated after 3 meters of sea-level rise. He followed that map with images of Manhattan shrunken by encroaching waters and Florida missing its southern tip.

“When you look at the irreversibility and you study the numbers, this along with the moral issue is what keeps you up at night,” Anderson said.

We are fucked.

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Friday, April 26, 2019 6:15 PM

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Don’t bother waiting for conservatives to come around on climate change
A new report examines the climate right. It doesn’t find much.
https://www.vox.com/energy-and-environment/2019/4/26/18512213/climate-
change-republicans-conservatives

Though old-fashioned denial of climate change remains popular among the hardcore base (and President Trump), party elites are now beginning to squirm a bit and admit that “the climate is changing.”

But with a few exceptions — a bipartisan state bill here, a few tax credits there — Republicans have opposed all substantial climate and clean energy policy for decades. There was a period in the late 2000s when John McCain garnered press for backing a cap-and-trade bill, but it never had many votes in his caucus and never came within a mile of getting a vote on the floor. Then Barack Obama was elected, the right went into full backlash mode, and it’s been an unbroken wall of opposition since.

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Friday, April 26, 2019 8:14 PM

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Only 5 years left, huh?

That's unfortunate, since Trump is going to be president until 2024.

Timing's a bitch. Ammiright?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, April 29, 2019 5:26 PM

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Most people believe climate change will cause humanity’s extinction
https://nypost.com/2019/04/22/most-people-believe-climate-change-will-
cause-humanitys-extinction/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site+buttons&utm_campaign=site+buttons&fbclid=IwAR1BLbX8zDoTQN9EgSO2EdoKTd2I4t6ak3Z86HherMz50iOpi0FRj_kvhU8

Three in four Americans think climate change will eventually result in the extinction of humanity, according to new research.

A new survey of 2,000 Americans aiming to reveal just how much “climate anxiety” people carry found that nearly half of Americans think climate change will result in the end of the world within the next 200 years.

Not only that, but one in five millennials think climate change will trigger the end of the world in their lifetime.

The one in five millenials are the informed ones.

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Monday, April 29, 2019 5:27 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Only 5 years left, huh?

That's unfortunate, since Trump is going to be president until 2024.

Timing's a bitch. Ammiright?

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Stupid AF.^ Completely unable to read and understand an article.

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Monday, April 29, 2019 8:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Only 5 years left, huh?

That's unfortunate, since Trump is going to be president until 2024.

Timing's a bitch. Ammiright?

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Stupid AF.^ Completely unable to read and understand an article.


Explain this post.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:28 AM

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World’s largest ice shelf melting 10 times faster than expected as waters heat up
Research reveals growing impact of solar heating of Antarctic Ocean
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/ross-ice-shelf-antarctica-me
lting-climate-change-global-warming-sea-level-temperature-a8891506.html?utm_source=reddit.com

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:30 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Thought so.

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 2:23 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Thought so.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
You're too stupid to even try to reason with.

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 2:24 PM

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CARBON RELEASE ACCELERATING DUE TO PERMAFROST COLLAPSE
http://www.libraryofcollapse.org/2019/04/30/carbon-release-acceleratin
g-due-to-permafrost-collapse/

“Faster than expected” and “worse than anticipated” are two terms that are being used with an increasing frequency in relation to Climate Change and the environment. The phenomenon is now not only limited to human emissions and resource consumption, either.

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Thursday, May 2, 2019 5:06 PM

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Permafrost is thawing in the Arctic so fast scientists are losing their equipment

Instead of a few centimetres of thaw a year, several metres of soil can destabilize within days
https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/permafrost-melting-1.5119767

Climate scientists have assumed a slow, steady erosion of permafrost and a similar pace of carbon release. Turetsky and her colleagues found something different.

Instead of a few centimetres of thaw a year, several metres of soil can destabilize within days. Landscapes collapse into sinkholes. Hillsides slide away to expose deep permafrost that would otherwise have remained insulated.

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Thursday, May 2, 2019 5:09 PM

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Thursday, May 2, 2019 7:07 PM

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I liked The Arrival with Charlie Sheen better.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, May 4, 2019 9:33 AM

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Trump administration sees a 7-degree rise in global temperatures by 2100
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/trump-administr
ation-sees-a-7-degree-rise-in-global-temperatures-by-2100/2018/09/27/b9c6fada-bb45-11e8-bdc0-90f81cc58c5d_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b458fb5aba7d

A rise of seven degrees Fahrenheit, or about four degrees Celsius, compared with preindustrial levels would be catastrophic, according to scientists. Many coral reefs would dissolve in increasingly acidic oceans. Parts of Manhattan and Miami would be underwater without costly coastal defenses. Extreme heat waves would routinely smother large parts of the globe.

But the administration did not offer this dire forecast, premised on the idea that the world will fail to cut its greenhouse gas emissions, as part of an argument to combat climate change. Just the opposite: The analysis assumes the planet’s fate is already sealed.

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Saturday, May 4, 2019 9:38 AM

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Gray whales starving to death in the Pacific, and scientists want to know why
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/gray-whales-starving-to-deat
h-in-the-pacific-and-scientists-want-to-know-why/?fbclid=IwAR3RibOG4OLZj3TclnSDSulyxXMCa0JKXbUZMs0bBMUX-g-ipDGits7UDUA

The false security of Climate Change offering us a bit of time will doom us. PCB laced marine microplastic has killed half the phytoplankton in my lifetime.

Phytoplankton sequesters CO2 and converts it to most of the oxygen we breathe and is the beginning of the food chain we all depend on. Billions depend on the oceans for food, and our forests are half gone to feed beef, further compounding the pending hunger of humanity.

Hunger, mankind's biggest motivator, will cause mass migration that no wall or army can stop, coupled with the loss of pollinators and farm land to development, and it becomes obvious pollution is responsible for all our demise even the eventual warming that we may not be witness to because we will be fighting in the streets for scraps.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/1720647534?fbclid=IwAR3fcjtbL5qR8bP8dc7ZYwhb
fbLOtaXvvZXKnXTvD0pFHOR8sy8Kibqjvhw

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Sunday, May 5, 2019 6:16 PM

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Killing off animals and plants now threatens humanity itself, UN experts to warn in urgent call for action
Up to a million species facing extinction in the world’s sixth mass die-off - as big a risk as climate change, say scientists
https://www.independent.co.uk/environment/un-nature-biodiversity-repor
t-2019-humans-animals-earth-paris-a8899926.html?utm_source=reddit.com

The future of humanity is under threat from the widespread destruction of the Earth’s plants and animals by people, leading scientists will warn in a dramatic report.

Loss of biodiversity threatens the human race just as much as climate change, the experts believe, with up to a million species facing extinction in the world’s sixth mass die-off.

The UN’s global assessment on the state of nature – published on Monday, and the most comprehensive of its kind – is expected to say that without urgent action, the wellbeing of current and future generations of people will be at risk as life-support systems providing food, pollination and clean water collapse.

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Monday, May 6, 2019 10:53 AM

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Civilization Is Accelerating Extinction and Altering the Natural World at a Pace ‘Unprecedented in Human History’
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/06/climate/biodiversity-extinction-uni
ted-nations.html

The report is not the first to paint a grim portrait of Earth’s ecosystems. But it goes further by detailing how closely human well-being is intertwined with the fate of other species.

“For a long time, people just thought of biodiversity as saving nature for its own sake,” said Robert Watson, chair of the Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services, which conducted the assessment at the request of national governments. “But this report makes clear the links between biodiversity and nature and things like food security and clean water in both rich and poor countries.“

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Wednesday, May 8, 2019 12:00 PM

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Humanity Is About to Kill 1 Million Species in a Globe-Spanning Murder-Suicide
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/05/un-report-humans-are-drivin
g-1-million-species-extinct.html

“The most important thing isn’t necessarily that we’re losing .?.?. 1 million species — although that’s important, don’t misunderstand me,” Robert Watson, chairman of the U.N. panel that authored the report, told the Washington Post. “The bigger issue is the way it will affect human well-being, as we’ve said many times — food, water, energy, human health.”

Earth’s ecosystems did not evolve to thrive amid the conditions that a global, advanced capitalist civilization of 7 billion humans has created. And that civilization did not evolve to thrive on a planet without coral reefs, wetlands, or wild bees — and with global temperatures exceeding preindustrial levels by 1.5 degrees. Bringing our civilization’s ambitions and modes of operation into better alignment with the environment’s demands no act of altruism. It merely requires recognizing our own collective long-term self-interest, and “changing the way we grow food, produce energy, deal with climate change and dispose of waste,” on a global level, through international cooperation.

In other words: Humanity is probably going out in a globe-spanning murder-suicide. But it doesn’t have to — if we can recognize the interdependence of all human beings well enough to build an international government that recognizes the interdependence of all living things.

The author offers a little hopium, but it's too late. We have an administration that calls climate change a hoax.

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Wednesday, May 8, 2019 12:54 PM

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