Dems, Dem-lites and Independents, who ya backing at this point and why? by WISHIMAY

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Rumors of War: Washington Is Looking for a Fight

It is depressing to observe how the United States of America has become the evil empire. Having served in the United States Army during the Vietnam War and in the Central Intelligence Agency for the second half of the Cold War, I had an insider’s viewpoint of how an essentially pragmatic national security policy was being transformed bit by bit into a bipartisan doctrine that featured as a sine qua non global dominance for Washington. Unfortunately, when the Soviet Union collapsed the opportunity to end once and for all the bipolar nuclear confrontation that threatened global annihilation was squandered as President Bill Clinton chose instead to humiliate and use NATO to contain an already demoralized and effectively leaderless Russia.

American Exceptionalism became the battle cry for an increasingly clueless federal government as well as for a media-deluded public. When 9/11 arrived, the country was ready to lash out at the rest of the world. President George W. Bush growled that “There’s a new sheriff in town and you are either with us or against us.” Afghanistan followed, then Iraq, and, in a spirit of bipartisanship, the Democrats came up with Libya and the first serious engagement in Syria. In its current manifestation, one finds a United States that threatens Iran on a nearly weekly basis and tears up arms control agreements with Russia while also maintaining deployments of US forces in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia and places like Mali. Scattered across the globe are 800 American military bases while Washington’s principal enemies du jour Russia and China have, respectively, only one and none.

MORE AT https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2019/04/18/rumors-war-washingto
n-is-looking-for-fight.html

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Hey, WISHY is crazy. Be nice to crazy people, they're not responsible for their actions.

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"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Friday, April 19, 2019 2:50 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Now I know you're crazy.

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Ain't gaslighting me, Bitch. I know what you said and you aren't gonna spin it any other way.

Take yer war paranoia and go fuck yourself with it.

You didn't by any chance go looking for those non-existent quotes and get all confused because they weren't there - did you? And now you think Signy put them there and then post-edit-removed them just to make you feel crazy?

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Friday, April 19, 2019 2:51 AM

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deleted because it was just too mean

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Friday, April 19, 2019 2:56 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey, WISHY is crazy. Be nice to crazy people, they're not responsible for their actions.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

Actually, this is the first time I realized that she's not in her right mind - and I mean that literally, not colloquially. I'm not doing some winky winky 'you SOOoooooooooo crazy, bitch!'.

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Friday, April 19, 2019 3:05 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Well, armchair psychologizing here ... If she really was molested by multiple males when she was young, it would make sense that she'd be so reactive that she'd see threat everywhere and attack people who weren't attacking her. That would explain why she's always on offense. Call it PTSD, or something like.

WISHY and SECOND are both crazy, but in different ways. I've dealt with a person like SECOND before, in person, and she killed her brother. You have no idea how creepy and dangerous they can be, because all the while that they're doing something god-awful they've convinced themselves that they're "not" doing exactly what they're doing. She papered over her rotted ethics with CONSTANT virtue signaling. Every time I talked with her I wanted to take a shower afterwards.

WISHY OTOH is a victim, not a victimizer. It would be a lot easier to sympathize with her if she wasn't so gorram offensive.

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WISHY ... we're not the enemy. If you wouldn't be such an asshole, barging into threads just to attack people ... you'd get a lot better treatment around here.

It's possible that you're still afraid, and that fear is causing you to behave that way, but you're dealing with regular people here, not trained psychologists. Nobody is prepared to take endless abuse from you without lashing back, and we're sure not getting paid for it. Find a survivor's group, hash things out with the parent(s) that didn't protect you, understand the nature of your behavior ...

Do SOMEthing other than what you're doing, because what you're doing isn't helping us any, and it FOR SURE isn't helping you either.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Friday, April 19, 2019 3:39 AM

WISHIMAY

Hardcore gaslighting now, huh? Gotta team up to do it right??

I just looked for the thread and you DID try to delete it, didn't you?

Title is still there though.

Afraid that you really would be run up on charges of being a traitor?? It's ok, I'm sure if it came down to it the FBI could still find it. You know everything you post on here is saved to the cloud anyway, right? Even if YOU delete it, it's still there, and more importantly....I KNOW WHAT I READ. Showed it to my kid and my husband because I was so struck there would be two traitors around...

I still don't get....WHY HERE??

Ohhh, wait... you figure if people are still on a fansite 15 years after it was cancelled you could brainwash someone pretty good, right? We all gotta be suckers, right??

Yeah, I gotta agree...6ix is your target sucker then. All you gotta be is nice at the right times and patient and he's just dumb enough to eat out of your hands.

What the hell could you want him for though? He's too dumb to be a hitman, too erratic to find or pass along any information on anything...

Just research?? This country IS full of abnormals like him, sure.

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Friday, April 19, 2019 3:44 AM

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No link?

I know you can delete or change the content of a post - you can even erase the title of the thread if you're the author - but THAT a post or thread exists can't be changed. It has a location in a database. And those are accessed by identifiers. So - let's see it. Get that link.

IF IT EXISTS IT HAS A LINK.

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Friday, April 19, 2019 3:50 AM

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Yeah, the link WISHY. Where's the link? Where's the quote? Where's the thing you say is real?

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Friday, April 19, 2019 3:54 AM

WISHIMAY

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
No link?

I know you can delete or change the content of a post - you can even erase the title of the thread if you're the author - but THAT a post or thread exists can't be changed. It has a location in a database. And those are accessed by identifiers. So - let's see it. Get that link.

Get me to post my link so you can be sure it's gone, right?

But how you gonna delete it from MY HEAD?

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Friday, April 19, 2019 3:58 AM

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Get me to post my link so you can be sure it's gone, right?

Well, WISHY, YOU can fix that if you "reply with quote". But, since I don't trust you not to post-edit the quote, get some neutral third party- JO for instance - to "reply with quote" because we can be pretty certain he won't post-edit it. PM him.

But, you DO realize what you sound like, don't you? Claiming that something is there that you refuse to show anybody? Kinda paranoid and cray-cray, huh?

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But how you gonna delete it from MY HEAD?

Only you can deal with the voices there, kiddo. We're not responsible for what goes on up there.

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"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Friday, April 19, 2019 4:05 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
No link?

I know you can delete or change the content of a post - you can even erase the title of the thread if you're the author - but THAT a post or thread exists can't be changed. It has a location in a database. And those are accessed by identifiers. So - let's see it. Get that link.

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

Get me to post my link so you can be sure it's gone, right?

But how you gonna delete it from MY HEAD?

You've lost me. This is about what Signy (or I) posted - right? You need to post the link to OUR posts and/or 'reply with quote' to OUR posts, not post link to yours. You do understand it - right? And - no one can erase a link, not even the author. And if you 'reply with quote' neither of us can access your content. Or, as Signy suggested, have some neutral third party do the posting.

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Friday, April 19, 2019 4:18 AM

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I think this is the post that TWITCHY is fantasizing about. I've re-posted in here, with added emphasis and explanation because maybe TWITCHY didn't get it the first time thru

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abandon our policy by which we allow ourselves the 'first strike' nuclear option-RUE

You will note that it's "first strike" [offensive] capability being discussed. You DO know what "first strike is", right? This was further developed with

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maintain reduced nuclear capability that's still sufficient to assure destruction of nuclear opponent - RUE

Did you get that, TWITCHY?

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All of these are technically do-able, and well within the purview of a President. But the way this is phrased gives rise to a few questions ...
Nuclear capability ... in order to be credible, it's my understanding that the warheads need to be tested from time to time as the nuclear "fuel" degrades; also the explosive which rams the nuclear material together also degrades.
A "defensive" nuclear posture would probably require submarine-based nuclear weapons because land-based nuclear weapons are subject to a first-strike attack. I think that's do-able and would be credible, but maybe someone with more info on nuclear strategy can help out.- SIGNY

So I proposed submarine-based nuclear weapons because land-based nuclear weapons are too easy to locate and destroy, and there is so far no defense against MIRVd hypersonic warheads.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63022&p=1

Was that it, TWITCHY? Was this the post that you fantasize is somehow treasonous?

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"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Friday, April 19, 2019 4:47 AM

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There's also these

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I'm not saying that the US should disarm its nuclear weapons or let them deteriorate past the point they can be used. I believe we need to keep an honest threat of retaliation.

I agree that the most credible threat is from submarine-based nuclear missiles.

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've proposed changing our nuclear stance from giving ourselves offensive 'first use of nuclear weapons' rights (first strike), to defensive posture only; reducing our nuclear arsenal to one capable of destroying the entire planet only twice; permanently banning so-called 'limited' nuclear weapons; and banning the 'nuclearization' of space.
But I've also proposed reconfiguring our missile systems so that retaliatory strikes will be devastatingly complete and guaranteed. A nuclear attack on the US will result in the complete annihilation of the attacker.

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Friday, April 19, 2019 11:45 AM

WISHIMAY

You two are HILARIOUS, tripping over yourselves to explain away and cover up.

Are you so brainwashed you can't even see what you look like??

You know that other people here were in that thread, right?

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Friday, April 19, 2019 12:15 PM

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TWITCHY ... we posted what we posted. Nobody cared to discuss it at the time, not even you. Apparently it didn't "look like" anything in particular, and there is nothing to "explain away" ... we were simply discussing nuclear strategy from (in my case) an admittedly not very knowledgable POV.

A few thoughts occurred to me afterwards, having to do with ... how do you distinguish a "first strike" weapon from a credible deterrent? What makes a "first strike" weapon, anyway? Are hypersonic MIRVed warheads "first strike"? Did we provoke an arms race by forward-positioning our missiles on Russia's border which closed the moment of meaningful negotiations?

If you are to negotiate offensive weapons, do submarine-based weapons have first-strike capability? If so, that would mean that credible negotiations couldn't take place because there is no way to locate, count and control them.

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I wasn't just blowing smoke when I said that [one of your many] problems was your inability to distinguish between offense and defense.

There is a saying that "the best defense is a good offense" but anyonewho follows sports knows that isn't true. Even more so in warfare.

If you are small and weak, and if you'r existentially threatened, then you MIGHT gain advantage through the element of surprise. But, if you attack first, you have to be sure to completely wipe out the enemy's capability of meaningful retaliation since otherwise your larger stronger enemy will wipe the floor with you.

It's an all-or-nothing approach, very risky and very costly, and shouldonly be considered in the event of an existential threat. Hybrid war, guerilla war, low-level conflict, outlasting the enemy ... these tend to be more successful in the long run. Because the USA is so large, I don't see nuclear "first strike" capability as being useful; it's more of a threat (We're the craziest motherfuckers on the planet and are willing to destroy ourselves as well as you, so don't cross us) but it puts Russia on a hair trigger and puts everyone at risk, including us.

Now, the only reason to hold the threat of nuclear annihilation over ... everyone ... is if we want to control the world, not just defend our borders and our allies.

Is controlling the world in my interest, and in yours? Maybe to a frightened child it might look like a beneficial idea, but I don't think it is and I don't think it's worth nuclear Armageddon. HOWEVER, it might be in the interests of people who are psychopathic enuf and have an unquenchable thirst for control that they would risk everyone in order to get their way.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Friday, April 19, 2019 2:01 PM

A whole page of nothing relating to the thread title?

Did Wishi derail a Wishi thread?

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Friday, April 19, 2019 3:54 PM

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"how do you distinguish a "first strike" weapon from a credible deterrent? What makes a "first strike" weapon, anyway?" Unless you're talking about missile-killer missiles afaik the only difference between a first strike missile and a retaliatory missile is policy.

I read somewhere that Obama had personally adopted a no-first-strike policy, but that statement wasn't linked to any source and I haven't checked up on it.

eta

Obama considering no first strike policy
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/09/nuclear-obam
a-north-korea-pakistan/499676/
Refusing to Nuke First

quelle horreur!
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/1/no-first-use-nuclear-w
eapons-policy-a-dangerous-ob/
'No first use' nuclear weapons policy a dangerous Obama idea

just kidding!
https://www.districtsentinel.com/obama-stick-first-strike-nuclear-war-
doctrine-claiming-deterrence-value/
Obama to Stick With “First Strike” Nuclear War Doctrine, Claiming Deterrence Value

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Friday, April 19, 2019 6:10 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
"how do you distinguish a "first strike" weapon from a credible deterrent? What makes a "first strike" weapon, anyway?" Unless you're talking about missile-killer missiles afaik the only difference between a first strike missile and a retaliatory missile is policy.

I read somewhere that Obama had personally adopted a no-first-strike policy, but that statement wasn't linked to any source and I haven't checked up on it.

eta

Obama considering no first strike policy
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/09/nuclear-obam
a-north-korea-pakistan/499676/
Refusing to Nuke First

quelle horreur!
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/1/no-first-use-nuclear-w
eapons-policy-a-dangerous-ob/
'No first use' nuclear weapons policy a dangerous Obama idea

just kidding!
https://www.districtsentinel.com/obama-stick-first-strike-nuclear-war-
doctrine-claiming-deterrence-value/
Obama to Stick With “First Strike” Nuclear War Doctrine, Claiming Deterrence Value

A First-strike Missile only needs to be capable of eluding the countermeasures active at the moment. A submarine in NY Harbor or Chesapeake Bay could launch against NYC and DC without effective reaction time. Decapitating the Command Structure is a top goal.

Treasonous Hilliary was thrilled to broadcast to all of our enemies what our Classified response time was.

Retaliatory must Elude all countermeasures activated following the first Strike Launch.

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Friday, April 19, 2019 7:59 PM

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Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
"how do you distinguish a "first strike" weapon from a credible deterrent? What makes a "first strike" weapon, anyway?" Unless you're talking about missile-killer missiles afaik the only difference between a first strike missile and a retaliatory missile is policy.

I read somewhere that Obama had personally adopted a no-first-strike policy, but that statement wasn't linked to any source and I haven't checked up on it.

eta

Obama considering no first strike policy
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/09/nuclear-obam
a-north-korea-pakistan/499676/
Refusing to Nuke First

quelle horreur!
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/1/no-first-use-nuclear-w
eapons-policy-a-dangerous-ob/
'No first use' nuclear weapons policy a dangerous Obama idea

just kidding!
https://www.districtsentinel.com/obama-stick-first-strike-nuclear-war-
doctrine-claiming-deterrence-value/
Obama to Stick With “First Strike” Nuclear War Doctrine, Claiming Deterrence Value

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
A First-strike Missile only needs to be capable of eluding the countermeasures active at the moment. A submarine in NY Harbor or Chesapeake Bay could launch against NYC and DC without effective reaction time. Decapitating the Command Structure is a top goal.

Treasonous Hilliary was thrilled to broadcast to all of our enemies what our Classified response time was.

Retaliatory must Elude all countermeasures activated following the first Strike Launch.

Thanks for the info.

AFAIK the Russians have a cruise missile capable of flying at treetop level and so evading detection.
They also have hypersonic missiles, too fast for anti-missile missiles.
AND submarines capable of launching nuclear-armed missiles.

And there's a rumor that they have a 'dead-man' system buried somewhere (the Urals?).

To be an effective retaliatory weapon, I believe the US needs nuclear-capable subs. Also, it needs to be capable of striking even if the command structure is taken out.

ETA

Well DANG! I purposefully didn't post links because I was hoping Wishi would come back and challenge me as a 'Russian' for knowing this stuff.

But it's no secret.

You can find this information in such nefarious places as Popular Mechanics
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a19121693/russia-int
roduces-two-new-nightmare-missiles/
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a25684396/zircon-hy
personic-missile/
and Veterans Today
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2019/02/09/russian-nuclear-submarines-we
apons-of-global-war/
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a24216/pentagon-conf
irm-russia-submarine-nuke/

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Sunday, April 21, 2019 4:24 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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My point was, the only other choice we had was Clinton. Her actions, such as scrubbing the server she should have had in her home clean, and having everybody involved with her smashing up her cell phones are well known and were never disputed.

So when we're talking about any similar activities that Trump may or may not have done now, we already knew that our only other choice had done all of that before the election even took place.

The clock is ticking, but it's not the tick tock to impeachment. You know that full well.

There isn't a lot of time left before the next election goes full swing, and the Democrats don't have any clear message for the people or a legitimate candidate that would have a chance against Trump. Even lefty sources have come out recently and said that all things considered and assuming nothing changes, Trump would have an advantage.

The only chance of getting Trump out of office is the election in 2020, or waiting until he serves his second term, or waiting until his health fails him. (Without going into your ultra-dark territory on that... I know that you know what I mean).

I'm just waiting for the Democrats to drop the identity politics bullshit and come up with a way of truly fixing the economy and job situation as a contrast to what we have now. We've been hearing for two years that it's getting better, but the situation has not improved at all for the working class and continues to degrade.

Is any Democrat talking about that though? Nope.

It's still "Nazi" this, and muh Feminism that, and RUSSIA!!!! fearmongering and demands for tax returns that you're never going to see.

The Democratic party in 2019 is abhorrent.

Fix that, and Trump might be out. - SIX

I thought I would bring SIX's post from there http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=63045&p=2 here because it's more relevant to this discussion.

I think we got some positive things from the Trump administration, including bailing out of "free trade" agreements which give up our sovereignty and making an issue of illegal immigration. He has also exposed (for those who wish to see) the existence of the deep state.

Any candidate who doesn't backtrack on those important issues would be acceptable to me.

OTOH, Trump's foreign, fiscal, and economic policies are a mess:

His unwavering support for Israel, his "interventionist" views of the globe, his embrace of the CIA, his budget deficit which includes pouring money into the Pentagon, and his reliance on low-low interest rates and nosebleed stock prices is taking us in the wrong direction.

I would never vote for Sanders because he caved and supported Hillary. Any person who would lick the DNC's ass after having been politically crucified by them is spineless. After all, if Bernie bailed on his own agenda after he lost, when there was NOTHING at stake,

how would he stand up for his agenda when he's under extreme pressure as President?

(In contrast to Tulsi, who quit her vice-chair position over how Bernie was being treated; she stood up for Bernie more than Bernie stood up for Bernie.)

Where is that candidate with a message for the people and the spine to carry it through?

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Sunday, April 21, 2019 5:02 PM

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More than anything, Trump brought the plight of the 'basket of deplorables' in 'flyover' country - also called people, who live in states with electoral votes - front and center.

In any case, let me bring this over as well:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62952

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
As the seas rise, Republicans will deserve all the blame their grandchildren assign them
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/as-the-seas-rise-republicans-w
ill-deserve-all-the-blame-their-grandchildren-assign-them/2019/04/12/de26f7ec-5c88-11e9-842d-7d3ed7eb3957_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.f1d0f733aaa3

Show me a democrat in the current presidential field with climate change front and center. Show me Pelosi, Speaker of the House, crafting the needed climate change policies. Show me Schumer, Senate Minority Leader, stumping for a climate change focus.

What?? WHAT??? Do I hear anything over the democrats' din of TRUMP!TRUMP!TRUMP! ?

... ... ...

... ... ... ... ... ...

nope

As I mentioned elsewhere, there are 2 things on my priority list
1 avoiding nuclear war
2 global climate change

And unless democrats at all levels make these a concern, I will not be voting 'democrat' again. Why the fuck do I want to vote for a bunch of useless, self-serving hypocrites?

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Saturday, April 27, 2019 8:38 PM

Biden throws his hat into the ring and raises more money than all other Democratic contenders in a single day.

How do you Lefties view your chances in 2020 right now?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, April 27, 2019 9:06 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
More than anything, Trump brought the plight of the 'basket of deplorables' in 'flyover' country - also called people, who live in states with electoral votes - front and center.

In any case, let me bring this over as well:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62952

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
As the seas rise, Republicans will deserve all the blame their grandchildren assign them
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/as-the-seas-rise-republicans-w
ill-deserve-all-the-blame-their-grandchildren-assign-them/2019/04/12/de26f7ec-5c88-11e9-842d-7d3ed7eb3957_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_source=reddit.com&utm_term=.f1d0f733aaa3

Show me a democrat in the current presidential field with climate change front and center. Show me Pelosi, Speaker of the House, crafting the needed climate change policies. Show me Schumer, Senate Minority Leader, stumping for a climate change focus.

What?? WHAT??? Do I hear anything over the democrats' din of TRUMP!TRUMP!TRUMP! ?

... ... ...

... ... ... ... ... ...

nope

As I mentioned elsewhere, there are 2 things on my priority list
1 avoiding nuclear war
2 global climate change

And unless democrats at all levels make these a concern, I will not be voting 'democrat' again. Why the fuck do I want to vote for a bunch of useless, self-serving hypocrites?

Because that's what Liberals have been doing for decades.

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 2:23 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

Here's the thing Wish. Would love to discuss but, I get the feeling that we are not alone...ya' know!

Don't want to give them a target. Ya know what I'm talking about.

But I like: Mayor Pete, Gillebrand, Bernie, Harris, Warren. Booker is okay too!
Oh, and another I like is Castro.

SGG

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Seriously, no one has anyone they like? I get there's a lot of choices out there...

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 4:02 AM

Hate to break it to you buddy, but Biden already is the DNC pick. So you've got Biden.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here's the thing Wish. Would love to discuss but, I get the feeling that we are not alone...ya' know!

Don't want to give them a target. Ya know what I'm talking about.

But I like: Mayor Pete, Gillebrand, Bernie, Harris, Warren. Booker is okay too!
Oh, and another I like is Castro.

SGG

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Seriously, no one has anyone they like? I get there's a lot of choices out there...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, April 30, 2019 8:36 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hate to break it to you buddy, but Biden already is the DNC pick. So you've got Biden.

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here's the thing Wish. Would love to discuss but, I get the feeling that we are not alone...ya' know!

Don't want to give them a target. Ya know what I'm talking about.

But I like: Mayor Pete, Gillebrand, Bernie, Harris, Warren. Booker is okay too!
Oh, and another I like is Castro.

SGG

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Seriously, no one has anyone they like? I get there's a lot of choices out there...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

So, what? Will he be the Fondler-in-Chief? The Groper-in-Chief?

Biden vs. Trump? Will that be Grab Em By the Pussy vs. Grab Em By the Boobs?

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Tuesday, May 7, 2019 1:58 AM

SHINYGOODGUY

Biden!? Really!? I didn't get the memo.

Oh, by the way.....your bias is showing.

SGG

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hate to break it to you buddy, but Biden already is the DNC pick. So you've got Biden.

Quote:
Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Here's the thing Wish. Would love to discuss but, I get the feeling that we are not alone...ya' know!

Don't want to give them a target. Ya know what I'm talking about.

But I like: Mayor Pete, Gillebrand, Bernie, Harris, Warren. Booker is okay too!
Oh, and another I like is Castro.

SGG

Quote:
Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Seriously, no one has anyone they like? I get there's a lot of choices out there...

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, May 7, 2019 4:44 AM

What bias is that?

I'm just saying that the DNC gets what the DNC wants.

At least, that is, until the General election.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, May 7, 2019 8:40 AM

Looks like the Dems have lost their old Libertarian values

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Tuesday, May 7, 2019 10:27 AM

There is zero doubt about that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, February 28, 2023 7:38 AM

I don't think Tusli is going to return to the nu-Democrat party

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Tuesday, February 28, 2023 9:20 AM

Politicians Tulsi Gabbard, Rudy Giuliani in East Palestine

Tulsi Gabbard compares Biden to Hitler as she blasts him for appointing people based on genetics

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11792457/Tulsi-Gabbard-compar
es-Biden-Hitler-blasts-appointing-people-based-genetics.html

Traditional Democrats Lost by the Neo-Left Nu-Leftwings?

"Jim Webb: I won't vote for Clinton, but I may for Trump"

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/jim-webb-no-hillary-clinton-2202
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Tuesday, February 28, 2023 9:25 AM

The Left is about to die because the Democrat Voters allowed the insane IDPol fringes take control of the party.

And why is Janet Yellen making surprise trips to Ukraine and promising them money. That's not her job. She doesn't even get a say in the matter.

Who's running the country right now?

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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

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