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Did you eat beans or cabbage? Is that why you're farting so much?




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Obama Admin Purged 12 Years Of ICE Speeches On Immigration Crisis Hours Before Trump Inauguration

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Did you eat beans or cabbage? Is that why you're farting so much?




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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1kiki, everybody knows that you and Signym are fucking Russian trolls trying to prove that Democrats are no different than Republicans, but what I wrote, which you didn't understand one word of because it's not in Russian:

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Obama Admin Purged 12 Years Of ICE Speeches On Immigration Crisis Hours Before Trump Inauguration

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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You are quoting the Daily Caller: https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/12/obama-administration-deleted-ice-sp
eeches/

You can trace the missing ICE speeches to https://web.archive.org/web/20170118202526/https://www.ice.gov/speeche
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Picking one speech at random: "CONCLUSION
ICE takes employee misconduct extremely seriously, and we are heavily invested in addressing these issues to ensure that ICE upholds the public trust and conducts its mission with integrity and professionalism. Thank you again for the opportunity to testify today, and I would now be pleased to answer any questions."
https://web.archive.org/web/20161221213953/https://www.ice.gov/doclib/
news/library/speeches/120801ragsdale.pdf

What a scandal! Somebody should read those speeches to discover more scandals.

Here is another scandal:"CONCLUSION
ICE is committed to promoting national security and has made significant progress in identifying and preventing terrorists from exploiting the visa process.
Thank you again for the opportunity to testify today and for your continued support of ICE and its law enforcement mission.
I would be pleased to answer any questions at this time."
https://web.archive.org/web/20161221101610/https://www.ice.gov/doclib/
news/library/speeches/120718woods.pdf

Maybe one more missing speech chosen at random will reveal the true nature of the scandal:"CONCLUSION
Thank you again for the opportunity to appear before you today to discuss our efforts to combat the money laundering threat to the United States and our response to the innovative techniques being used by TCOs.
I would be pleased to answer any questions."
https://web.archive.org/web/20161221111328/https://www.ice.gov/doclib/
news/library/speeches/120717winchell.pdf

All these ICE speeches also show in the Congressional record. The last one for example:
www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/STMT - WINCHELL-Leigh (ICE).pdf

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Yep, beans or cabbage.

Let me point out btw that I could probably randomly find hundreds of innocuous quotes from - say - Mein Kampf. But random innocuous quotes don't negate the damning ones also found there.

And you're too much of a fucking loser for me to bother looking, but in the past I found, posted, AND LINKED more than a dozen articles showing the Obama administration separated far more families than Trump; and that his policies were at least as bad, and even more vigorously pursued. Obama and Trump ARE the same on immigration - except Obama was worse.

You're a gasbag who farts endlessly.

And thanks for the quotable quote!

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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THANKS for arguing a point I DIDN'T make. I didn't call it a scandal. I pointed that just because you found a few random quotes that may have been innocuous, it didn't absolve the entire contents of all the documents.

But since you couldn't refute either point with facts and logic, you resorted to farting. Again.

You really are a gassy farter, aren't you?

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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And then I pointed out that Obama's record on illegal immigrants was far worse than Trump's.

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Obama Admin Purged 12 Years Of ICE Speeches On Immigration Crisis Hours Before Trump Inauguration

Hours before President Trump took office, the Obama administration scrambled to purge 12 years worth of transcripts spanning hundreds of speeches from the Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) website, according to the Daily Caller's Jason Hopkins.
An Internet Archive Wayback Machine capture of the “Speeches and Testimonies” page from late in the evening of January 19, 2017. (via the Sunlight Foundation)

A collection of 190 transcripts of speeches on ICE’s website was deleted on Jan. 18 and late in the evening on Jan. 19, 2017, according to research conducted by the Sunlight Foundation, a nonpartisan organization that advocates for government transparency. Statements made by high-ranking ICE officials regarding controversial immigration topics such as sanctuary cities, E-Verify, treatment of detainees, and other issues were included in the reported deletions. -Daily Caller

"With a couple of clicks of a mouse, access to a federal government web resource containing 12 years of primary source materials on ICE’s history was lost," wrote the Sunlight Foundation, adding that speeches dating back to 2004 were included in the purge.

The Caller notes that speeches from former acting ICE Director Thomas Homan were "prominently included in the deletion list," including a February 2016 speech in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee in which Homan discussed that "Unaccompanied Minor Crisis," which the Obama administration was grappling to manage at the southern border.

Another example cited by the Caller was a transcript from May 2016 in which Homan explained why sanctuary cities (and counties, and states) put "the public at risk," according to the report.

The Sunlight Foundation offered the following commentary to explain the purge:

"It is not inconceivable that an outgoing Democratic administration might want to avoid preserving these public stances for future scrutiny," adding "The removal of the ICE speeches collection represents the loss of a primary source history of the early days of ICE, dating back to its creation during the George W. Bush administration in 2003."

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"Fascistic" immigration policy continues to prevent child trafficking and child exploitation

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Monday, May 20, 2019
DNA tests reveal 30% of suspected fraudulent migrant families were unrelated

Some of the migrant families arrested at the southern border weren't actually families.

In a pilot program, approximately 30% of rapid DNA tests of immigrant adults who were suspected of arriving at the southern border with children who weren't theirs revealed the adults were not related to the children, an official involved in the system's temporary rollout who asked to be anonymous in order to speak freely told the Washington Examiner Friday.

"There’s been some concern about, 'Are they stepfathers or adopted fathers?'" the official said. "Those were not the case. In these cases, they are misrepresented as family members."

In some incidents where Immigration and Customs Enforcement told the adults they would have to take a cheek swab to verify a relationship with a minor, several admitted the child was not related and did not take the DNA test, which was designed by a U.S. company.

The pilot lasted a few days earlier this month and was used only in McAllen, Texas, and El Paso, Texas. ICE said the Department of Homeland Security would look at the results to determine if it will be part of its comprehensive solution to border issues. Homeland Security has not issued a public statement on its intentions going forward.

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a-tests-reveal-30-of-suspected-fraudulent-migrant-families-were-unrelated

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Here's the short and curly - find those 'non-missing' documents from Signy's post. You have everything you need. Your link, the month and year, speaker, and in one case the title.

In fact, I'll make it super easy.

Your link
https://web.archive.org/web/20170118202526/https://www.ice.gov/speeche
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Identifying information
February 2016 Homan "Unaccompanied Minor Crisis"
May 2016 Homan (sanctuary cities)

With your superior knowledge and skills, I expect you to fetch these right quick.




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Here's the short and curly - find those 'non-missing' documents from Signy's post. You have everything you need. Your link, the month and year, speaker, and in one case the title.

In fact, I'll make it super easy.

Your link
https://web.archive.org/web/20170118202526/https://www.ice.gov/speeche
s

Identifying information
February 2016 Homan "Unaccompanied Minor Crisis"
May 2016 Homan (sanctuary cities)

With your superior knowledge and skills, I expect you to fetch these right quick.


And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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You got those 'non-missing' documents yet, old fart?

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Here's the short and curly - find those 'non-missing' documents from Signy's post. You have everything you need. Your link, the month and year, speaker, and in one case the title.

In fact, I'll make it super easy.

Your link
https://web.archive.org/web/20170118202526/https://www.ice.gov/speeche
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Identifying information

Document 1) February 2016 Homan "Unaccompanied Minor Crisis"

Document 2) May 2016 Homan (sanctuary cities)

With your superior knowledge and skills, I expect you to fetch these right quick.




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Wrong, again, 6ix. I have a real deep hostility toward Trump-voting Texans who have hired illegal aliens.- SECOND

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SECOND, the thought of deporting illegals without controlling the border makes as much sense as shoveling water uphill. The only thing that you ever posted on the topic that makes the slightest bit of sense is cracking down- HARD- on people who employ illegal aliens, because that can be done irrespective of what happens to the flow of migrants.

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Post of the Year.

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2018 or 2019?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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16-Year-Old Dies in U.S. Border Patrol Custody, the Fifth Migrant Child Death Since December
http://time.com/5592162/fifth-child-dies-ice-border-custody/

It sucks, being so right all the time about our fascist-in-chief.

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You can trace the missing ICE speeches to https://web.archive.org/web/20170118202526/https://www.ice.gov/speeche
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Here's the short and curly - find those 'non-missing' documents from Signy's post. You have everything you need. Your link, the month and year, speaker, and in one case the title.

In fact, I'll make it super easy.

Your link
https://web.archive.org/web/20170118202526/https://www.ice.gov/speeche
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Identifying information

Document 1) February 2016 Homan "Unaccompanied Minor Crisis"

Document 2) May 2016 Homan (sanctuary cities)

With your superior knowledge and skills, I expect you to fetch these right quick.




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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A bunch of verbiage that shows 1kiki'd have a hard time finding documents unless somebody neatly arranged them for 1kiki. 1kiki's whole argument does not amount to a hill of beans in America or Russia.
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hill%20of%20beans

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Parents who cross this border illegally with kids in tow kill their kids.

Period.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Parents who cross this border illegally with kids in tow kill their kids.

Period.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Pulled from other thread discussing concentration camps:

I have just gotten off the phone with a friend who is a legal volunteer in Border Patrol facilities.

Don't look away.

My friend has done two tours now volunteering as a legal advocate inside CBP facilities.

And blah blah blah blah ...

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Pulled from other thread discussing concentration camps:

I have just gotten off the phone with a friend who is a legal volunteer in Border Patrol facilities.

Don't look away.

My friend has done two tours now volunteering as a legal advocate inside CBP facilities.

And blah blah blah blah ...

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This is uncredited from a tweet with a link from Elizabeth C. McLaughlin. And who IS Elizabeth C. McLaughlin? She's "Described as a “celebrated career coach” and “fearless entrepreneur,” Elizabeth Cronise McLaughlin is the CEO of Gaia Project Consulting, LLC ..."

Whatever.




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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Pulled from other thread discussing concentration camps:

I have just gotten off the phone with a friend who is a legal volunteer in Border Patrol facilities.

Don't look away.

My friend has done two tours now volunteering as a legal advocate inside CBP facilities.

And blah blah blah blah ...

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Meanwhile

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Pulled from other thread discussing concentration camps:

I have just gotten off the phone with a friend who is a legal volunteer in Border Patrol facilities.

Don't look away.

My friend has done two tours now volunteering as a legal advocate inside CBP facilities.

And blah blah blah blah ...

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This is uncredited from a tweet with a link from Elizabeth C. McLaughlin. And who IS Elizabeth C. McLaughlin? She's "Described as a “celebrated career coach” and “fearless entrepreneur,” Elizabeth Cronise McLaughlin is the CEO of Gaia Project Consulting, LLC ..."

Whatever.




And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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really bad programming that can't spit out much more than ... Russian ... Nazi ... troll ... chosen at random

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really bad programming that can't spit out much more than ... Russian ... Nazi ... troll ... chosen at random

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And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
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really bad programming that can't spit out much more than ... Russian ... Nazi ... troll ... chosen at random

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really bad programming that can't spit out much more than ... Russian ... Nazi ... troll ... chosen at random

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Parents who cross this border illegally with kids in tow kill their kids.

Period.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Report: Hundreds of migrant children held in Texas without proper food, water or medical attention
Lawyers told the Associated Press that a group of 250 children were living in dangerous and unsanitary conditions at a migrant detention facility outside of El Paso.
https://www.texastribune.org/2019/0...thout-proper-food-water-or-medic
al-attention/

A group of 250 infants, children and teens has reportedly spent 27 days without adequate food, water and sanitation at a U.S. Border Patrol facility near El Paso, according to the Associated Press.

Several attorneys who visited the station said they found at least 15 children sick with the flu, some of whom were being kept in medical quarantine. They described seeing a sick and diaper-less 2-year-old boy whose “shirt was smeared in mucus.” Three girls, from the ages of 10 to 15, were taking turns watching him.

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OMG!!!! They had THE FLU!!! Some were kept in MEDICAL QUARANTINE!!! OH, THE HORROR!

All I can say is ... if it's so much worse than where they came from, maybe they should leave those "concentration camps" and go back home.


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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Parents who cross this border illegally with kids in tow kill their kids.

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Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Yes, exactly. The parents' thoughtless and selfish decision to drag their kids with them for hundreds or thousands of miles without proper food, shelter, and medicine are guilty of reckless and severe child abuse. They should all be locked up in prison and have their children taken from them, just like CPS does every day in every city in America. No wonder the kids arrive in the US with malnutrition, the flu and other maladies. They get great compassionate medical care here and anyone saying differently is nothing but a gorram liar.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Parents who cross this border illegally with kids in tow kill their kids.

Period.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Parents who cross this border illegally with kids in tow kill their kids.

Period.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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