Need some help summing up Sig and Kiki's intentions by WISHIMAY

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
I'm not on here enough these days to take note or care, but I think I see some discrepancies in the programming they are pushing. Some of you post more so I was wondering what you have noticed that doesn't make any sense.

Ok, so we know they don't ever disagree, which in and of itself is bizarre and completely improbable. How many people you know do you agree with ON EVERYTHING?
Right.

We know Sig doesn't like immigrants like Mexicans or Chinese, but both she and Kiki are for some reason enamored of the children of the Middle East, even though some are probably spawn of mass murderers and war criminals. It's a shame any kid has to die early on this planet, but certainly inevitable during war and genocide.

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Originally posted by Signym
Now, as far as illegal immigrants are concerned ... I have a personal grotch against the illegal Hispanics because they not only feel entitled to be here, they feel entitled not to assimilate because many of them have a grotch against the gringo.

But I'm not too happy with the Chinese either ... and have posted so many times. I DID tell you about my acquaintance ... the Chinese lady ... who thinks the USA is STUPID for letting Chinese immigrants scam the USA, have I not?

So they like brown people, only as long as they are the right SHADE of brown ?????????????????????????????Hmm.

We know they pretend not to be Russian supporters, but then they run down and disparage the thought that Russians are EVER up to dirty tricks. After all, America blah blah blah blah blah is pretty much the fall back there for EVERYTHING.

Then there's the "we back Trump on good days, we defend Trump on bad days, and pretend we don't support Trump, even though we constantly support Trump.

I can't even imagine trying to keep all that straight.

Any other observations, Second, Crunchy?

Saved in case it gets edited.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Tuesday, July 23, 2019 7:14 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Saved in case it gets edited.

Ok, great.

You really are a paranoid weirdo, you know that right?

edit to add: I just realized you don't have anything to say on the matter because you don't make observations, so you intimidated on their behalf because they are the only idiots that ever agree with you, in order to have someone to agree with THEM and their agenda.

It's cute... you being loyal to these traitors because I'M against them.

Or... it just makes you a tool. Yep. Tool.

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Tuesday, July 23, 2019 7:18 PM

I'd also like to point out they seem to hate our military, but if we got invaded by say, Africa....I'm wondering who they want to do something about that?

I mean, if brown people or Russians are invading they want us to do nothing, but black people? What about Chinese?

Does WHO the invaders are matter to them I wonder??? They are so peace loving I'm sure they would just let anyone come take their stuff if it would save an invaders life, right??

Sure.

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Tuesday, July 23, 2019 7:50 PM

Despots and dictators.... He thinks becoming the next one is his RIGHT.

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-falsely-says-constitution-gives-
him-unlimited-power-president-2019-7

Still support him?

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Tuesday, July 23, 2019 10:24 PM

You off your pills again?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:41 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

My statements are entirely clear but for some strange reason WISHY can't comprehend them. OTOH I feel I understand WISHY's intentions perfectly.

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
My statements are entirely clear but for some strange reason WISHY can't comprehend them. OTOH I feel I understand WISHY's intentions perfectly.

I'd just like you to answer THIS one.

"We know Sig doesn't like immigrants like Mexicans or Chinese, but both she and Kiki are for some reason enamored of the children of the Middle East"

I want to know WHY THEM? What makes the children THERE so much more important to you??

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You off your pills again?

Drunk for FIVE FUCKING YEARS. You're the one with the mental disorder and you KNOW IT, hypocrite.

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:03 PM

That was going on three years ago now.

You've had a five year head start, plus the last 2 years and 8 months to do better. Yet you keep on sliding into even darker territory all of the time.

No wonder you're so obsessed with my recovery.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:04 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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My statements are entirely clear but for some strange reason WISHY can't comprehend them. OTOH I feel I understand WISHY's intentions perfetly- SIGNY

I'd just like you to answer THIS one.

"We know Sig doesn't like immigrants like Mexicans or Chinese, but both she and Kiki are for some reason enamored of the children of the Middle East"

I want to know WHY THEM? What makes the children THERE so much more important to you??

Here's one of your problems WISHY- you can't seem to stop framing everything... and, I mean EVERYTHING ... in terms of race* (*and sex).

Defense policy?
It's about "race*".

Immigration policy?
ALSO about "race*"

Economics?
Once again- "race*"!

Please, try to remove race* and consider these policies independently from that. What is our best defense policy? What is our best immigration policy? What should we do about economics? Health care? Education? Not for (or against) a particular race*, but for all Americans.

If you can wrap your head around that, then you'll be able to figure things out.

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:09 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That was going on three years ago now.

... to do better.

You think time magically erases the stupid shit you do? Interesting.

Honey, I AM better than you in every way.

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:12 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Here's one of your problems WISHY- you can't seem to stop framing everything... and, I mean EVERYTHING ... in terms of race* (*and sex).

Pretending race and sex based differences DON'T exist is ridiculously illogical.

NOW ANSWER THE QUESTION.

Why are kids of the Middle East so much more important to you than Mexican kids???

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:19 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Why should YOU care about those brown kids in the Middle East?

Maybe because WE KILLED THOSE BROWN KIDS IN THE MIDDLE EAST - and - we should stop killing even more of them now and in the future.

You know, because WE're responsible for what WE do, and murdering children is bad. Very bad.

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:24 PM

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That was going on three years ago now.

... to do better.

You think time magically erases the stupid shit you do? Interesting.

Honey, I AM better than you in every way.

I never said that it does. There's a lot to say for one improving their life though, as opposed to sitting around bitching all day long about everything and blaming everyone else for all of your problems.

Look in the mirror, "honey".

You're gross.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:25 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

You know, because WE're responsible for what WE do, and murdering children is bad. Very bad.

Children are quite often a casualty of war. It's truly unavoidable. As long as there are wars there will be dead kids. Maybe if genocide didn't happen that could stop??

You know what we DO have a choice in?? NOT putting Mexican kids in cages away from their parents.

But if you were an activist for that you wouldn't get to use that special WAR word every thirty seconds and make yourself FEEEEEL so important....

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:31 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

"Children are quite often a casualty of war. It's truly unavoidable. As long as there are wars there will be dead kids. Maybe if genocide didn't happen that could stop??"

So you're still arguing that you can save people from being killed by murdering them.

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:37 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I never said that it does. There's a lot to say for one improving their life though,
You're gross.

You said "that was three years ago" implying that time has somehow made us all forget your years of genius behavior.

I'm not the one blaming ANYONE for my problems, but I do blame people like you for being blithering idiots.

YOU blamed a woman for having an abortion without consulting you, when it was HER LIFE on the line and not yours. And then you proved her actions completely correct by proving you aren't a competent adult ...FOR FIVE YEARS.

YOU blamed moms for getting paid more at your crappy job when if you had applied even a MODICUM of effort you could easily be making 70gs a year WHICH IS NOT SO EASY WHEN YOU ARE A MOM.

Who you gonna blame for your house rotting, or your teeth rotting??

No wonder you go from job to job... you probably get hung up on stupid shit there too and you can't just SHUT THE FUCK UP AND WORK.

Now, I have ACTUAL shit that needs doing today. I can't just play with myself all day and make excuses like you.

GO...............GET................A...................LIFE!

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 1:40 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

So you're still arguing that you can save people from being killed by murdering them.

Stop trollin' bitch.

Take your issues up with the military, I'm sure they'd love to explain it to you.

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:21 PM

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 2:22 PM

So. That's a yes to the "off your pills again" question then?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 3:17 PM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

So you're still arguing that you can save people from being killed by murdering them.

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

Stop trollin' bitch.

Name-calling. SO VERY convincing. Not.

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Take your issues up with the military, I'm sure they'd love to explain it to you.

Are you telling me you can't explain your own ideas?

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 4:21 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

WISHY, I swear to God that you're brain dead.

Middle Eastern brown kids are NOT more important than Mexican brown kids. My basic approach is that we simply should not interfere in foreign nations, and especially FIRST DO NO HARM.

You're not "helping" by killing lots of people anywhere. And please don't excuse our genociding people because we meant well.

I certainly don't think that kids should be separated from their parents (which BTW started under Obama) ... I even proposed that kids should be allowed to stay with their parents on a voluntary basis while the parents are detained. But seriously WISHY, which is worse: detaining kids, or killing them?

Where's your sense of priority? Where's your sense of reality?

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Wednesday, July 24, 2019 4:48 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Wishy: Take your issues up with the military, I'm sure they'd love to explain it to you.

Are you telling me you can't explain your own ideas?

They're really good at that, aren't they?

The Cap'n just gave me the same reply in his thread.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 25, 2019 2:33 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

You're not "helping" by killing lots of people anywhere. And please don't excuse our genociding people because we meant well.

You know what, I'll bite. How would YOU geniuses have handled Saddam? What would have been your ideal, OTHER than not being involved in the first place. 'Cause that ship has loooong sailed and I'm fucking THRILLED Saddam is gone. (After dealing with you two I might just start celebrating Saddam execution day

Mmmm, goat kebabs!)

I think the world needs to come together and really eradicate any remaining members of the Kim Jong Douche line as well. Be nice if they didn't have to take out half the country, but I think that's what's gonna have to happen eventually...

I guess you people have never heard of the phrase "necessary evil", huh? All is sunshine and roses as long as you two cowards don't have to do anything about the "bad guys", huh? Despots just end alllll by themselves, right??

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Thursday, July 25, 2019 4:01 AM

JO753

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
I'm not on here enough these days to take note or care, but I think I see some discrepancies in the programming they are pushing. Some of you post more so I was wondering what you have noticed that doesn't make any sense.

I thot everybody wuz clear on this long ago. They are employeez uv the Internet Reserch Ajensy.

If you get confuzed by a post not fitting in for sum reazon, just see it from Vlad'z perspectiv.

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Thursday, July 25, 2019 7:24 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Originally posted by JO753:
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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
I'm not on here enough these days to take note or care, but I think I see some discrepancies in the programming they are pushing. Some of you post more so I was wondering what you have noticed that doesn't make any sense.

I thot everybody wuz clear on this long ago. They are employeez uv the Internet Reserch Ajensy.

If you get confuzed by a post not fitting in for sum reazon, just see it from Vlad'z perspectiv.

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JO, the IRA is being represented in court and so far Mueller has not come up with diddly squat that shows there was any connection between the IRA and the Kremlin. This pissed off the sitting judge so much that she forbade Mueller, by court order, from continuing to defame the IRA. (Yanno, like you're defaming me.) That's one of the reasons why his testimony was so constricted.

In your humble opinion, is SHE on the Kremlin payroll?

And what are you going to say if Durham and Horowitz come forward with reports that parts of the FBI and the DOJ conspired with foreign intelligence in a politically-motivated attempt to overthrow an elected government and engaged in a series of crimes to that purpose? Would you think that THEY'RE on the Kremlin payroll too??

Try to keep your mind open as facts develop.

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Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:42 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
I'm not on here enough these days to take note or care, but I think I see some discrepancies in the programming they are pushing. Some of you post more so I was wondering what you have noticed that doesn't make any sense.

Ok, so we know they don't ever disagree, which in and of itself is bizarre and completely improbable. How many people you know do you agree with ON EVERYTHING?
Right.

We know Sig doesn't like immigrants like Mexicans or Chinese, but both she and Kiki are for some reason enamored of the children of the Middle East, even though some are probably spawn of mass murderers and war criminals. It's a shame any kid has to die early on this planet, but certainly inevitable during war and genocide.

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Originally posted by Signym
Now, as far as illegal immigrants are concerned ... I have a personal grotch against the illegal Hispanics because they not only feel entitled to be here, they feel entitled not to assimilate because many of them have a grotch against the gringo.

But I'm not too happy with the Chinese either ... and have posted so many times. I DID tell you about my acquaintance ... the Chinese lady ... who thinks the USA is STUPID for letting Chinese immigrants scam the USA, have I not?

So they like brown people, only as long as they are the right SHADE of brown ?????????????????????????????Hmm.

We know they pretend not to be Russian supporters, but then they run down and disparage the thought that Russians are EVER up to dirty tricks. After all, America blah blah blah blah blah is pretty much the fall back there for EVERYTHING.

Then there's the "we back Trump on good days, we defend Trump on bad days, and pretend we don't support Trump, even though we constantly support Trump.

I can't even imagine trying to keep all that straight.

Any other observations, Second, Crunchy?

You pretty much covered it. I have no idea what their real motivation is or where it comes from. Ego most likely.

Siggy likes to splatter the board with a lot of copy and paste from ZeroHedge and other specious sources that support Trump/Russia good, US bad. A lot.

I'll never forget Geezer's posted comment to me long ago, "Why are you wasting your time with those 2? There a couple of old Soviets." I wasn't sure if he was commenting on their age or the type of Soviet they were. It unlocked so much of what they had to say whatever the case.

I have wondered how Siggy feels about Trump's desire to burn down the ACA. If that happens then health insurance coverage for pre-existing conditions would likely get canned as well. I can only imagine that would be a nightmare for her family, but I've never seen her express any concern - a bit odd but who knows.

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Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:53 AM

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

You're not "helping" by killing lots of people anywhere. And please don't excuse our genociding people because we meant well.

You know what, I'll bite. How would YOU geniuses have handled Saddam? What would have been your ideal, OTHER than not being involved in the first place. 'Cause that ship has loooong sailed and I'm fucking THRILLED Saddam is gone. (After dealing with you two I might just start celebrating Saddam execution day Mmmm, goat kebabs!)

I think the world needs to come together and really eradicate any remaining members of the Kim Jong Douche line as well. Be nice if they didn't have to take out half the country, but I think that's what's gonna have to happen eventually...

I guess you people have never heard of the phrase "necessary evil", huh? All is sunshine and roses as long as you two cowards don't have to do anything about the "bad guys", huh? Despots just end alllll by themselves, right??

You know what you sound like right now Wishy?

A George W. Bush supporting neo-con from the mid-2000's.

That's what you sound like.

WTF happened to the Democratic Party?

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I'm fucking THRILLED Saddam is gone. (After dealing with you two I might just start celebrating Saddam execution day Mmmm, goat kebabs!)

She says with GLEE!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, July 25, 2019 11:17 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I noticed that every time they get handed a major setback in their "get Trump" campaign they bring up that old RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA! chestnut.
It's like a mental tic

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You know what, I'll bite. How would YOU geniuses have handled Saddam? What would have been your ideal, OTHER than not being involved in the first place. 'Cause that ship has loooong sailed and I'm fucking THRILLED Saddam is gone.

I wouldn't have gotten involved in the first place. I wouldn't have overthrown Mossadegh in Iran, I wouldn't have installed the Shah of Iran. That wouldn't have precipitated the Iranian Revolution. Then, we wouldn't have wanted to cozy up to an Iraqi tyrant as a counterbalance to Iran. I wouldn't have sold Saddam the technology to make chemical weapons, nor would I have helped him use them against Iran in the Iran-Iraq war.

I wouldn't have armed and funded jihadists in Afghanistan, even to throw off the hated Soviet yoke. That way, we wouldn't have "needed" to bomb them even further into the stone age twenty years later.

I don't think we have a "responsibility", or the moral authority, to violently intervene in every ... or even ANY ... nation in the world.

Plus, if you look at the results of our countless "interventions" where we've left so many nations broken and impoverished, and the survivors far worse off than before our "help", you have to ask yourself ... or, you SHOULD ask yourself ... if we manage to fail so miserably time after time in our stated goal of bringing peace, prosperity, and freedom to these poor victims ... are our military planners and diplomats so incompetent that they can't achieve their stated goals? Why aren't the beneficiaries of our "help" more grateful? Why do we wind up being hated?

I think we should just butt out. If we really want to "help" then we should HELP ... dig wells, build schools, educate doctors, build roads. And if we feel the inescapable itch to "help", then we should make sure we do more good than harm

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Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:21 PM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

I have wondered how Siggy feels about Trump's desire to burn down the ACA. If that happens then health insurance coverage for pre-existing conditions would likely get canned as well. I can only imagine that would be a nightmare for her family, but I've never seen her express any concern - a bit odd but who knows.

I know there were a couple others on that subject, but this is all I've got time to find right this minute...
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60961&mid=1
019003#1019003

That's what I find so weird, most people are slightly hypocritical on some subjects, but whenever I read what they write I feel like I'm having a discussion with 8 other personalities. They aren't consistent about... anything.

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Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:26 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Mmmm, goat kebabs!

She says with GLEE!

What's your point? I'm also pro-death penalty. Some people need to be removed from the planet. I have no qualms about it. You abuse the privilege of existence, you should be unburdened from it. And us from you.

Especially that last part.

Automatically serves the greater good of the planet to have less psychopaths on it.

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Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:30 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I thought I was pretty clear that I thought the purview of Presidents was foreign, border, and defense policy, but that in order to do anything domestic he would need cooperation from Congress. I felt pretty safe that Trump wouldn't be and to dislodge the ACA.

I'm not a big fan of ACA anyway, I think we should just reform Medicare and do Medicare for all

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Thursday, July 25, 2019 6:30 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

I thought I was pretty clear that I thought the purview of Presidents was foreign, trade, border, and defense policy, but that in order to do anything domestic he would need cooperation from Congress. I felt pretty safe that Trump wouldn't be able to to dislodge the ACA.

I'm not a big fan of ACA anyway, I think we should just reform Medicare and do Medicare for all
ACA is better than nothing, but needs major reform

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Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:10 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I thought I was pretty clear that I thought the purview of Presidents was foreign, border, and defense policy, but that in order to do anything domestic he would need cooperation from Congress. I felt pretty safe that Trump wouldn't be and to dislodge the ACA.

If you don't think Trump is driving the GOP bus in almost all matters, you're either lying or naive or clueless or in denial.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I'm not a big fan of ACA anyway, I think we should just reform Medicare and do Medicare for all

It's not about what your fantasy perfect HC plan is. What you think and desire has nothing to do with what will happen other than a lucky coincidence if RW outcomes line-up with your hopes. Or are they calling you asking for input? Sorry, your family's pre-existing HC coverage could easily be nullified and you're on your own to pay for it from you personal account.

These are basic, obvious concepts - it's why it's so hard to believe anything you post.

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Thursday, July 25, 2019 8:41 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

My thinking was that the GOP wasn't driving the Congressional bus, because they didn't have a supermajority in the Senate, and I turned out to be right.

In any case, as SECOND kindly pointed out, my vote didn't mean diddly. Being a resident in CA, my vote was only a protest vote so I felt free to express my opinion of Hillary!

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Thursday, July 25, 2019 9:39 PM

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Mmmm, goat kebabs!

She says with GLEE!

What's your point? I'm also pro-death penalty. Some people need to be removed from the planet. I have no qualms about it. You abuse the privilege of existence, you should be unburdened from it. And us from you.

Especially that last part.

Automatically serves the greater good of the planet to have less psychopaths on it.

I wonder if most Democrats in 2019 share that mentality.

I'm certainly against the death penalty. I'm not saying that some people don't deserve to die. All I'm saying is that I'm not fit to be the judge of who lives and who dies. Honestly, I don't trust any human being with that decision.

Apparently though, you feel that you're up to the task of making those kinds of decisions.

And from your post history it's quite clear that you seem to get a lot of joy out of people who you think deserve it to die.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, July 26, 2019 12:46 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Some people need to be removed from the planet. I have no qualms about it. You abuse the privilege of existence, you should be unburdened from it. And us from you.

Automatically serves the greater good of the planet to have less psychopaths on it.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm certainly against the death penalty. I'm not saying that some people don't deserve to die. All I'm saying is that I'm not fit to be the judge of who lives and who dies. Honestly, I don't trust any human being with that decision.

Apparently though, you feel that you're up to the task of making those kinds of decisions.

It's not just that WISHI feels PERSONALLY interested-in and capable-of being judge, jury, and executioner; it's that she feels the US is somehow entitled to be that on a global scale as well ...

... apparently because 'we' are superior enough to crown ourselves with that glory. And so, we can sweep away inferior people, countries, maybe even races.

Hmm. Something sounds vaguely familiar about that.

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Friday, July 26, 2019 1:33 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Some people need to be removed from the planet. I have no qualms about it. You abuse the privilege of existence, you should be unburdened from it. And us from you.
Automatically serves the greater good of the planet to have less psychopaths on it.- WISHY

Says the psychopath herself?

Your intentions were never about "helping" people, were they WISHY?

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Saturday, July 27, 2019 3:30 AM

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

It's not about what your fantasy perfect HC plan is. What you think and desire has nothing to do with what will happen other than a lucky coincidence

Oh, perfectly put!

THAT'S 90 PERCENT OF MY PROBLEM WITH THEM.

They are so hung up on their fantasy outcomes that what ACTUALLY WILL HAPPEN never seems to enter into their heads. All that delusion about how humanity really works makes me nauseous. It's dystopian novel level brainwashing. I mean, optimism sounds nice, but it's rarely a probable outcome for ANYTHING. For instance, what is the probability that something will be unexpectedly positive during your day like.... finding money, getting something free, having something accidentally diagnosed that would have killed you?

I think the best thing I've gotten lately was an item I wanted (mangoes) was on sale the other day, but it wasn't the last 3 times I bought it. Whoo. And as it turns out, mangoes are now on my intolerant list. See? Optimism is fake

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Saturday, July 27, 2019 3:35 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Your intentions were never about "helping" people, were they WISHY?

How does removing psychopaths from the planet NOT help other people on the planet in your scenarios?

Eventually, psychopathic behavior would slow or stop.
Less horrid behavior = happier, more productive people.
What's not to get???

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Saturday, July 27, 2019 3:48 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

And from your post history it's quite clear that you seem to get a lot of joy out of people who you think deserve it to die.

I was going to say "so you're okay seeing on the news the things that happen" but you don't pay attention to the news.

Yeah, I don't believe there's a god. Existence is NOT a guarantee. The planet doesn't get extra points for keeping people alive that shouldn't be. All it does it drag the rest of us down to another depraved notch.

Some things that happen on this planet are very sad, like abortion, hunting, and war. In our current state they are all also necessary.
Fetuses that can't be fed and taken care of should be aborted, we don't have unlimited room on this planet. Deer should be hunted or driving becomes impossible. War is currently the only way we have to keep the despots in check.

Necessary "evil". Not that I think "evil" exists, but it's close enough of a descriptor.

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Saturday, July 27, 2019 3:53 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

It's not just that WISHI feels PERSONALLY interested-in and capable-of being judge, jury, and executioner; it's that she feels the US is somehow entitled to be that on a global scale as well ...

Except that I've said SEVERAL TIMES that "THE WORLD" needs to come together to do some things and you keep rage-redirecting what I'm saying. Maybe if the rest of the planet got off their asses WE wouldn't have to take initiative on so many things.
I'd be thrilled if we could scale down the military because everyone else is picking up the slack. Sounds GREAT.

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Saturday, July 27, 2019 4:10 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I wouldn't have gotten involved in the first place.

Just for that I ignored most of your post.

I will say WE WOULD HAVE BEEN HATED ANYWAY, THEY ARE MUSLIMS. DUH. If you think there will ever be overriding love between a mostly Islamic country and mostly Christian one you are loonier than I think....which is pretty damn loony.

I don't know where you got this idea that the US can't or shouldn't get involved in the affairs of other countries. EVERY country on this planet has a responsibility to eradicate despots and dictators. Most lack the capability or inertia.
Those that CAN, SHOULD.

Once again, I would LOVE IT if other countries would handle their own messes, but that's not going to happen because, REALITY.

And hey, Iraq is a federal parliamentary republic now. That HAS to be better than being under a dictator who wipes out whole groups of people for NO REASON.

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Saturday, July 27, 2019 6:42 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by WHIZZY:

How does removing psychopaths from the planet NOT help other people on the planet in your scenarios?

How many innocent people do you have to kill along the way before you realize that YOU are the murderous psychopath?

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Saturday, July 27, 2019 6:51 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by WHIZZY:
Except that I've said SEVERAL TIMES that "THE WORLD" needs to come together to do some things

"THE WORLD" needs to come together to ... what ... kill a million people to get one? In order to 'help' those many people? Is that what you mean?

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Originally posted by WHIZZY:
and you keep rage-redirecting

I have no idea what "rage-redirecting". You should explain.

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Originally posted by WHIZZY:
what I'm saying. Maybe if the rest of the planet got off their asses WE wouldn't have to take initiative on so many things.
I'd be thrilled if we could scale down the military because everyone else is picking up the slack. Sounds GREAT.

Yep. You really DO believe that indiscriminately killing innocent people is 'helping' them.

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Saturday, July 27, 2019 7:00 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by WHIZZY:
I will say WE WOULD HAVE BEEN HATED ANYWAY, THEY ARE MUSLIMS. DUH. If you think there will ever be overriding love between a mostly Islamic country and mostly Christian one you are loonier than I think....which is pretty damn loony.

Nobody said we should stop killing people in other countries just so they wouldn't hate us. Except you.

Hmmm. Arguing with the voices in your head?

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Originally posted by WHIZZY:
I don't know where you got this idea that the US can't or shouldn't get involved in the affairs of other countries. EVERY country on this planet has a responsibility to eradicate despots and dictators. Most lack the capability or inertia.
Those that CAN, SHOULD.

Maybe because killing a crap-ton of innocent people to remake their countries into something we approve of is the work of murderous despots?

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Originally posted by WHIZZY:
Once again, I would LOVE IT if other countries would handle their own messes, but that's not going to happen because, REALITY.

A whole lot of other countries did handle their messes. They replaced corrupt dictators will democratically elected social reformers. That is, until the US got involved and offed those democratically elected reformers, and installed depots in their place. Because ... only despots can guarantee extraordinary economic returns.
I suppose you think that's right and proper.

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Originally posted by WHIZZY:
And hey, Iraq is a federal parliamentary republic now. That HAS to be better than being under a dictator who wipes out whole groups of people for NO REASON.

And Afghanistan and Libya are steaming piles of jihadist misery. THAT worked out well!

And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Saturday, July 27, 2019 7:21 AM

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Saved in case it gets edited.

Ok, great. You really are a paranoid weirdo, you know that right?

edit to add: I just realized you don't have anything to say on the matter because you don't make observations, so you intimidated on their behalf because they are the only idiots that ever agree with you, in order to have someone to agree with THEM and their agenda.

It's cute... you being loyal to these traitors because I'M against them.

Or... it just makes you a tool. Yep. Tool.

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