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It just so happens that 1 in 6 Americans Takes a Psychiatric Drug. Does that mean that 1 in 6 will become mass murderers? No, it means that 1 in 6 mass murderers are likely to be taking the drugs.
www.scientificamerican.com/article/1-in-6-americans-takes-a-psychiatri
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Originally posted by AURaptor:


How have you already connected these incidents without any evidence whatsoever? And yet you’re the first person, I’m sure , who will declare that “ not all Muslims…“. after a jihad mass murder spree.

Even though they all preach exactly the same thing, from the same book, and all praise the same imaginary sky god.

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You know, I don't believe EVERY white male Rethug in the country wants to commit a mass murder on subcultures in the US, but nice try at deflecting what one of yours has done to the tired Muslim Monster Trope...

I'm sure some of them attend the Church of Rethuglicanism because the rest of their family does. It can be hard to break from family when they all preach exactly the same thing, from the same book, and all praise the same imaginary sky god.



Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
You can't take guns from people without some people crying and shooting up the place. You have to find a way for them to willingly give them up, and that's with cash money. It worked in Iraq, and in the Shire, it'll work in the USA. How many broke-@ss Chicago gang members would turn their guns in for some cash? Hell, people will start stealing guns to turn them in for the money. It's almost funny in it's absurdity.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:


ImaginarySkyGod is my next username... unless I go with PracticalDeathRay.

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How have you already connected these incidents without any evidence whatsoever? And yet you’re the first person, I’m sure , who will declare that “ not all Muslims…“. after a jihad mass murder spree.

Even though they all preach exactly the same thing, from the same book, and all praise the same imaginary sky god.

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You know, I don't believe EVERY white male Rethug in the country wants to commit a mass murder on subcultures in the US, but nice try at deflecting what one of yours has done to the tired Muslim Monster Trope...

I'm sure some of them attend the Church of Rethuglicanism because the rest of their family does. It can be hard to break from family when they all preach exactly the same thing, from the same book, and all praise the same imaginary sky god.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:

You're arguing w/ yourself. You craft out of your own warped delusions and then project this internal chaos onto others as if it has any bearing on the real world.

It doesn't. The 2 weekend monsters weren't by any stretch Republican or conservative. The garlic festival shooter... no one yet knows, and if you claim you do, you're lying.

No shocker there.

Quit while you're not too far behind.

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Yanno, SECONDRATE, for someone who seems to advocate gun violence you sure have taken a hypocritical turn.
I can't see a reason why anyone should take anything you say seriously. It's clear you don't believe more than half of what you post. I know I don't think about your posts much, I barely read them anymore, they're so full of shit.- SIGNY

I have three guns, but if Texas or Federal laws changed to ban them, I'd go along with it. - SECONDRATE

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Hmmm... how's this, SECOND?



I DON'T BELIEVE YOU. 80% of your posts are bullshit, and 95% are insincere.

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The garlic festival shooter... no one yet knows

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Originally posted by second:
Republicans are headed for extinction in the suburbs if they don’t distance themselves from the NRA

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Go ahead 6ix, tell everyone not to show his face or name so you can play pretend about who the is the REAL threat in this country.

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Don’t Name Them, Don’t Show Them, But Report Everything Else: A Pragmatic Proposal for Denying Mass Killers the Attention They Seek and Deterring Future Offenders

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The decision to publicly release propaganda-style videos recorded by the Parkland, Florida, shooting suspect has infuriated some student survivors and victims' relatives.

Many have spoken out against the decision on social media, and have asked media organisations to refrain from publishing the videos to reduce the level of fame and notoriety the suspect is given.

The footage were released by Broward County authorities on Wednesday, which some news organisations then published in full.

In one of the clips, the suspect says: "When you see me on the news, you'll know who I am."

This led to several students from the school accusing the media of giving the suspect what he wanted, and reignited the debate about appropriate coverage of mass shootings.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Because, of course she did. Common sense in 2019 is racist or sexist or xenophobic or [enter your favorite basket of deplorables name here].

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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After Gilroy: Mass shootings a white thing? Oh, hell, no
By Colin Flaherty

Even before the final butcher's bill was presented for the Sunday-night mass shooting in Gilroy, the blue checkers and talking heads were filling their platforms with fairy tales that most mass shooters are white.

But in the two-week run-up to Gilroy, there were 36 other mass shootings from coast to coast — and 34 of those shooters were black. One was white and one Hispanic. These results echo a New York Times story from 2016 that stated, much to the surprise and chagrin of the reporters, that whenever there are three or more victims of gunfire, 75 percent of shooters in America are black.

Today, that number looks a bit generous to black sensibilities.

But numbers from the New York Times and ten stories from good ol' Colin this year documenting hundreds of black mass shootings did not do much to remove the blinders of those who insist mass shootings are a white thing.

"Here's a fact that republicans are too stupid to grasp," said Mark K (@MarkRK47) on Twitter. "Every mass shooting in the US is carried out by a white supremacist. Every. Single. One."

Sibel Edmonds (@SibelEdmonds) chimed in to at least admit the possibility that not all mass shooters are white: "One hard hitting fact: In the chronic USA mass shooting incidents, in 99+% of the cases, the perpetrators: White, Anglo-Saxon, Christian, Americans."

Salon, the Daily Beast, Mother Jones, and other staples of the mass media cannot spread these fairy tales fast enough. The facts tell a different story — the opposite story.

Anyone up for a magical mystery tour of mass shootings over the last two weeks where black people shot three or more people? (You can follow along on my video; just click here.

Let's start in Brooklyn on Saturday night and let the headlines tell the stories:

1. As many as 12 people shot in Brownsville, Brooklyn: Police.

2. In Philadelphia on July 28: 1 dead, 5 wounded in shooting during rap video production.

3. In Philadelphia on July 28: 6 shot in Southwest Philadelphia.

4. In Uniontown, Pa. on July 28: Multiple Uniontown shootings injure 4 people.

5. In Chicago on July 20: 7 shot in Lincoln Park near Fullerton Beach.

6. On Wichita on July 27: Wichita shooting, victim and suspect identified.

7. In Pembroke Park, Florida on July 27: 2 dead, 2 hospitalized after shooting at Pembroke.Parkauto shop.

8. In Memphis on July 24: Three people shot in Highland Heights.

9. In Baltimore on July 20: three injured in dice game shooting in Southwest Baltimore.

10. In South Bend, Indiana on July 21: Police identify man killed on Niles Avenue.

11. In Kansas City, Missouri on July 20: Police are investigating a triple shooting.

12. In San Antonio on July 16: 4 wounded in shooting.

13. In Fort Worth on July 17: 3 people shot on Berry Street in east Fort Worth.

14. In Racine, Wisconsin on July 28: Triple shooting overnight in Racine.

15. In Modesto, California on July 24: Triple shooting at Modesto Park leaves one dead.

16. In St. Louis on July 23: Police investigating triple shooting in North City.

17. In Chicago on July 28: Four shot in North Lawndale.

18. In Jersey City on July 20: Three people shot, one killed.

19. In St. Louis on July 26: Triple shooting leaves one in critical condition.

20. In Detroit on July 24: Persons of interest sought in Detroit triple shooting.

21. In Washington, D.C. on July 28: Early morning triple shooting in Shaw.

22. In Kansas City, Kansas on July 21: Neighbors found teen mortally wounded in triple shooting.

23. In Tulsa on July 18: Police identify 2 killed in shooting outside fitness center.

24. In Flint, Michigan on July 21: One woman dead, two hurt.

25. In Baltimore on July 21: Nine shot overnight in separate Baltimore shootings (one quadruple shooting).

26. In Essex, Maryland on July 28: Two men dead in triple shooting.

29. In Paterson, New Jersey on July 28: Three men shot on Saturday night.

30. In Washington D.C. on July 28: 4 shot near Howard Theatre.

31. In Chicago on July 18: Woman killed three others hurt on Garfield Park porch.

32. In North Charleston on July 22: Three people dead, one injured after shootings.

33. In Birmingham, Alabama on July 28: Three people shot near Ensley club.

34. In Chattanooga, Tennessee on July 25: 3rd suspect arrested in deadly Douglas Heights apartment shooting.

The day after the Gilroy shooting, Mayor Bill de Blasio was fielding questions from reporters about whether the Gilroy shooting resembled some of the recent mass shootings in New York, such as Brooklyn Saturday night.

Not all, said de Blasio. "We don't really count them that way."

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Oh BTW SECOND - I still don't believe you.

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Oh BTW SECOND - I still don't believe you.

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But numbers from the New York Times and ten stories from good ol' Colin this year documenting hundreds of black mass shootings did not do much to remove the blinders of those who insist mass shootings are a white thing.

"Here's a fact that republicans are too stupid to grasp," said Mark K (@MarkRK47) on Twitter. "Every mass shooting in the US is carried out by a white supremacist. Every. Single. One."

Sibel Edmonds (@SibelEdmonds) chimed in to at least admit the possibility that not all mass shooters are white: "One hard hitting fact: In the chronic USA mass shooting incidents, in 99+% of the cases, the perpetrators: White, Anglo-Saxon, Christian, Americans."

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Mark K? Sibel Edmunds? Who the fuk are they? These are the sources cited as "The Left" or MSM?? Seriously, dude just picked a couple boobs from twitter to quote.

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As to why we don't hear or read about Black on Black crime? Because it's not "news," duh. MSM is entertainment, haven't you heard? You still don't get that? Or only when it's conveneint?

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Even in Canada we can see that you need better gun laws all over the US.

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Oh BTW SECOND - I still don't believe you. - SIGNY

Experts on media violence told us that in the United States, a clearer risk factor for such events is the availability of guns.

“The single most obvious and probably largest difference between a country like the US that has many mass shootings and other developed countries is the easy access to guns,” Duke psychology and neuroscience professor Kenneth A. Dodge, one of the authors of the 2015 APA report, told us.

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Even in Canada we can see that you need better gun laws all over the US.

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Don't forget Nazis and Fascists. Funny how WWII Japan gets a pass.

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Experts on media violence told us that in the United States, a clearer risk factor for such events is the availability of guns.

“The single most obvious and probably largest difference between a country like the US that has many mass shootings and other developed countries is the easy access to guns,” Duke psychology and neuroscience professor Kenneth A. Dodge, one of the authors of the 2015 APA report, told us.

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Baloney. Almost every male citizen in Switzerland owns a gun because of their citizen militias. The problem isn't guns, it's idiots like you and TWITCHY

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The Killers in Our Midst
Nearly all mass shooters have been young men alienated from society.
By The Editorial Board
Aug. 4, 2019 6:46 pm ET

Which brings us back to the angry young men. This is the one common element in nearly all mass shootings: 19-year-old Nikolas Cruz in Parkland, Fla.; Chris Harper-Mercer in Oregon’s Umpqua Community College; Adam Lanza at Newtown, Conn.; Devin Patrick Kelley in Sutherland Springs, Texas, and the rest. All were deeply troubled and alienated from society in our increasingly atomistic culture.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-killers-in-our-midst-11564958792]

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Suspect in El Paso massacre ‘didn’t hold anything back’ in police interrogation

Leigh Ann Locascio, a former neighbor, said Crusius was an extreme loner who always sat alone on the bus in junior high and high school. He spoke negatively of other kids who played sports or joined the school band, she said. She described Crusius as “very much a loner, very standoffish” and someone who “didn’t interact a whole lot with anyone.”

Her son, Tony Locascio, walked to school regularly with Crusius and his sister. Tony Locascio said Patrick Crusius only walked ahead of or behind them, never interacting and always keeping to himself. Crusius liked animals and kept pet snakes. “He wouldn’t talk to people,” Tony Locascio said. “No one really knew him.”

Another former classmate, Jacob Wilson, said Crusius was “very strong-minded” in class and would try to “take charge,” but other kids refused to work with him because he was “irritable and had a short temper.” He was often “picked on” because of how he spoke, and because he wore what looked like hand-me-down clothes, Wilson said.

Wilson, who is now 20 and works in his family’s scrap-metal recycling business, said he was in English class with Crusius during their senior year, and the taunts from other kids during class seemed relentless. “Every time I looked up in class,” Wilson said, “it was someone new speaking negatively to the kid, ‘Patrick that is dumb, stupid.’”

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2019-08-03/what-we-know-abo
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
I wonder if Crusius had undiagnosed Aspberger's syndrome.

https://www.iancommunity.org/cs/about_asds/aspergers_syndrome_social_a
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trying to compare Switzerland and the US and come up with one single reason why it's different is pretty crazy. The US and Switzerland really have nothing in common. Too many variables.

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About Me

In general, I support the Christchurch shooter and his manifesto. This attack is a response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the instigators, not me. I am simply defending my country from cultural [culture] and ethnic [culture] replacement brought on by an invasion. Some people will think this statement is hypocritical because of the nearly complete ethnic and cultural destruction brought to the Native Americans by our European ancestors, but this just reinforces my point. The natives didn’t take the invasion of Europeans seriously,

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and now what’s left is just a shadow of what was. My motives for this attack are not at all personal. Actually the Hispanic community was not my target before I read The Great Replacement. This manifesto will cover the political [politics] and economic [economy] reasons behind the attack, my gear, my expectations of what response this will generate and my personal motivations and thoughts.

In short, America is rotting from the inside out, and peaceful means to stop this seem to be nearly impossible. The inconvenient truth is that our leaders, both Democrat AND Republican, [NOT TRUMP] have been failing us for decades. They are either complacent or involved in one of the biggest betrayals of the American public in our history. The takeover of the United States government by unchecked corporations. [economy, loss of individual agency] I could write a ten page essay on all the damage these corporations have caused, but here is what is important. Due to the death of the baby boomers, the increasingly anti-immigrant rhetoric of the right and the ever increasing Hispanic population, America will soon become a one party-state. The Democrat party will own America and they know it. They have already begun the transition by pandering heavily to the Hispanic voting bloc in the 1st Democratic Debate. They intend to use open borders, free healthcare for illegals, citizenship and more to enact a political coup by importing and then legalizing millions of new voters. With policies like these, the Hispanic support for Democrats will likely become nearly unanimous in the future. The heavy Hispanic population in Texas will make us a Democrat stronghold. Losing Texas and a few other states with heavy Hispanic population to the Democrats is all it would take for them to win nearly every presidential election. Although the Republican Party is also terrible. Many factions within the Republican Party are pro-corporation. Procorporation = pro-immigration. [economy, corporations, exploitation] But some factions within the Republican Party don’t prioritize corporations over our future. So the Democrats are nearly unanimous with their support of immigration while the Republicans are divided over it. At least with Republicans, the process of mass immigration and citizenship can be greatly reduced.

Economic Reasons

In short, immigration can only be detrimental to the future of America. Continued immigration will make one of the biggest issues of our time, automation, so much worse. [economy, loss of jobs] Some sources say that in under two decades, half of American jobs will be lost to it. Of course some people will be retrained, but most will not. So it makes no sense to keep on letting millions of illegal or legal immigrants flood into the United States, and to keep the tens of millions that are already here. Invaders who also have close to the highest birthrate of all ethnicities in America. In the near future, America will have to initiate a basic universal income to prevent widespread poverty and civil unrest as people lose their jobs. Joblessness in itself is a source of civil unrest. The less dependents on a government welfare system, the better. The lower the unemployment rate, the better. Achieving ambitions social projects like universal healthcare and UBI would become far more likely to succeed if tens of millions of dependents are removed. [economy, drain on government coffers] Even though new migrants do the dirty work, their kids typically don’t. They want to live the American Dream which is why they get college degrees and fill higher-paying skilled positions. This is why corporations lobby for even more illegal immigration even after decades of it of happening. [economy, continuing corporate encouragment of illegal immigration] They need to keep replenishing the low-skilled labor pool. Even as migrant children flood skilled jobs, Corporations make this worse by lobbying for even more work visas to be issued for skilled foreign workers to come here. Recently, the senate under a REPUBLICAN administration has greatly increased the number of foreign workers that will take American jobs. Remember that both Democrats and Republicans support immigration and work visas. Corporations need to keep replenishing the labor pool for both skilled and unskilled jobs to keep wages down. [economy, wge suppression] So Automation is a good thing as it will eliminate the need for new migrants to fill unskilled jobs. Jobs that Americans can’t survive on anyway. Automation can and would replace millions of low-skilled jobs if immigrants were deported. This source of competition for skilled labor from immigrants and visa holders around the world has made a very difficult situation even worse for natives as they compete in the skilled job market. To compete, people have to get better credentials by spending more time in college. It used to be that a high school degree was worth something. Now a bachelor’s degree is what’s recommended to be competitive in the job market. The cost of college degrees has exploded as their value has plummeted. This has led to a generation of indebted, overqualified students filling menial, low paying and unfulfilling jobs. Of course these migrants and their children have contributed to the problem, but are not the sole cause of it.


The American lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life. However, our lifestyle is destroying the environment of our country. [environment] The decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations. Corporations are heading the destruction of our environment by shamelessly overharvesting resources. This has been a problem for decades. For example, this phenomenon is brilliantly portrayed in the decades old classic “The Lorax”. Water sheds around the country, especially in agricultural areas, are being depleted. [enviroment] Fresh water is being polluted from farming and oil drilling operations. [enviroment] Consumer culture is creating thousands of tons of unnecessary plastic waste and electronic waste, and recycling to help slow this down is almost non-existent. [enviroment] Urban sprawl creates inefficient cities which unnecessarily destroys millions of acres of land. [enviroment] We even use god knows how many trees worth of paper towels just wipe water off our hands. [enviroment] Everything I have seen and heard in my short life has led me to believe that the average American isn’t willing to change their lifestyle, even if the changes only cause a slight inconvenience. [American mindset] The government is unwilling to tackle these issues beyond empty promises since they are owned by corporations. [corporations] Corporations that also like immigration because more people means a bigger market for their products. I just want to say that I love the people of this country, but god damn most of y’all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle. So the next logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources. If we can get rid of enough people, then our way of life can become more sustainable. [population reduction ... presumably thru deportation]

Gear

Main gun: AK47 (WASR 10) – I realized pretty quickly that this isn’t a great choice since it’s the civilian version of the ak47. It’s not designed to shoot rounds quickly, so it overheats massively after about 100 shots fired in quick succession. I’ll have to use a heat-resistant glove to get around this. 8m3 bullet: This bullet, unlike pretty much any other 7.62×39 bullet, actually fragments like a pistol hollow point when shot out of an ak47 at the cost of penetration. Penetration is still reasonable, but not nearly as high as a normal ak47 bullet. The ak47 is definitely a bad choice without this bullet design, and may still be with it. Other gun(if I get one): Ar15 – Pretty much any variation of this gun doesn’t heat up nearly as fast as the AK47. The round of this gun isn’t designed to fragment, but instead tumbles inside a target causing lethal wounding. This gun is probably better, but I wanted to explore different options. The ar15 is probably the best gun for military applications but this isn’t a military application. This will be a test of which is more lethal, either it’s fragmentation or tumbling. I didn’t spend much time at all preparing for this attack. Maybe a month, probably less. I have do this before I lose my nerve. I figured that an under-prepared attack and a meh manifesto is better than no attack and no manifesto

Reaction

Statistically, millions of migrants have returned to their home countries to reunite with the family they lost contact with when they moved to America. They come here as economic immigrants, not for asylum reasons. This is an encouraging sign that the Hispanic population is willing to return to their home countries if given the right incentive. An incentive that myself and many other patriotic Americans will provide. [terror for political purposes] This will remove the threat of the Hispanic voting bloc which will make up for the loss of millions of baby boomers.[politics] This will also make the elites that run corporations realize that it’s not in their interest to continue piss off Americans. [corporations] Corporate America doesn’t need to be destroyed, but just shown that they are on the wrong side of history. That if they don’t bend, they will break.[corporations]

Personal Reasons and Thoughts

My whole life I have been preparing for a future that currently doesn’t exist. The job of my dreams will likely be automated. Hispanics will take control of the local and state government of my beloved Texas, changing policy to better suit their needs. [politics] They will turn Texas into an instrument of a political coup which will hasten the destruction of our country. The environment is getting worse by the year. [environment] If you take nothing else from this document, remember this: INACTION IS A CHOICE. I can no longer bear the shame of inaction knowing that our founding fathers have endowed me with the rights needed to save our country from the brink destruction. Our European comrades don’t have the gun rights needed to repel the millions of invaders that plaque their country. [except for Switzerland which currently does not have an influx of immigrants] They have no choice but to sit by and watch their countries burn. America can only be destroyed from the inside-out. If our country falls, it will be the fault of traitors. This is why I see my actions as faultless. Because this isn’t an act of imperialism but an act of preservation. America is full of hypocrites who will blast my actions as the sole result of racism and hatred of other countries, despite the extensive evidence of all the problems these invaders cause and will cause. [economic, political, culltural, enviromental] People who are hypocrites because they support imperialistic wars that have caused the loss of tens of thousands of American lives and untold numbers of civilian lives. The argument that mass murder is okay when it is state sanctioned is absurd. [ethics of state-sponsored mass murder versus individual mass murder] Our government has killed a whole lot more people for a whole lot less.

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Even if other non-immigrant targets would have a greater impact, I can’t bring myself to kill my fellow Americans. Even the Americans that seem hell-bent on destroying our country. Even if they are shameless race mixers [race] massive polluters [environment], haters of our collective values [culture, ethics] etc. One day they will see error of their ways. Either when American patriots fail to reform our country and it collapses or when we save it. But they will see the error of their ways. I promise y’all that. I am against race [race] mixing because it destroys genetic diversity and creates identity problems. Also because it’s completely unnecessary and selfish. 2nd and 3rd generation Hispanics form interracial unions at much higher rates than average. Yet another reason to send them back. Cultural and racial diversity is largely temporary. Cultural diversity diminishes as stronger and/or more appealing cultures overtake weaker and/or undesirable ones. [cultural replacement] Racial diversity will disappear as either race mixing or genocide will take place. But the idea of deporting or murdering all non-white Americans is horrific. Many have been here at least as long as the whites, and have done as much to build our country. The best solution to this for now would be to divide America into a confederacy of territories with at least 1 territory for each race. [racial segregation] This physical separation would nearly eliminate race mixing and improve social unity by granting each race self-determination within their respective territory(s). My death is likely inevitable. If I’m not killed by the police, then I’ll probably be gunned down by one of the invaders. Capture in this case if far worse than dying during the shooting because I’ll get the death penalty anyway. Worse still is that I would live knowing that my family despises me. This is why I’m not going to surrender even if I run out of ammo. If I’m captured, it will be because I was subdued somehow. Remember: it is not cowardly to pick low hanging fruit. AKA Don’t attack heavily guarded areas to fulfill your super soldier COD fantasy. Attack low security targets. Even though you might out gun a security guard or police man, they likely beat you in armor, training and numbers. Do not throw away your life on an unnecessarily dangerous target. If a target seems too hot, live to fight another day.

My ideology has not changed for several years. My opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president. I putting this here because some people will blame the President or certain presidential candidates for the attack. This is not the case. I know that the media will probably call me a white supremacist anyway and blame Trump’s rhetoric. The media is infamous for fake news. Their reaction to this attack will likely just confirm that. Many people think that the fight for America is already lost. They couldn’t be more wrong. This is just the beginning of the fight for America and Europe. I am honored to head the fight to reclaim my country from destruction.

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So now you don't have to rely on the media to tell you what Crusius was (purportedly) thinking.

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While Betts, the Dayton shooter, didn’t leave behind a manifesto, his extensive social-media footprint provides clues as to what may have inspired him. Federal investigators announced Tuesday that they are looking into his exploration of violent ideologies.

Betts had long expressed support for antifa accounts, causes and individuals. That would be the loose network of militant leftist activists who physically attack anyone to the right of Mao in the name of “anti-fascism.” In particular, Betts promoted extreme hatred of American border enforcement.

“Kill every fascist,” 2018 on twitter,

“Nazis deserve death and nothing else,” he tweeted last October.

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In ­response to an essay by Intercept writer Mehdi Hassan titled, “Yes, Let’s Defeat or Impeach Trump—but What If He Doesn’t Leave the White House?” the shooter wrote: “Arm, train, prepare.”

“I want socialism, and I’ll not wait for the idiots to finally come round understanding.” June 2019

Last month, an antifa militant firebombed an Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility in Tacoma, Wash. Police say Willem van Spronsen was killed after he aimed a rifle at them during the attack. His gun had apparently malfunctioned before he could fire. In his manifesto, he called for his “comrades” to take up arms in confronting the ascendant fascism of the state. In one of Betts’ tweets ­before he extinguished the lives of nine fellow Americans, he responded to a person asking if van Spronsen had been a “villain or martyr?”

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The Twitter account painted a picture of a left-wing anarchist and discontent, very far from the anti-immigration manifesto posted by Saturday’s El Paso gunman.

“Vote blue for gods sake,” he wrote last Nov. 2. On the day of the senator’s death, Betts wrote “F—k John McCain.”

Though he had a fascination for guns, Betts also was a fan of gun control and blamed Republicans for school shootings.

“This is America: Guns on every corner, guns in every house, no freedom but that to kill,” he wrote in December, and on the day of the Parkland, Florida, school shooting, he tweeted at Sen. Rob Portman: “hey rob. How much did they pay you to look the other way? 17 kids are dead. If not now, when?”

In reference to the 2017 Las Vegas shooting, he wrote “you can’t kill 50+ people and injure 600(!) In 10 minutes with cigarettes my dude.”

Politically, Betts was on the far left. His pinned Top Tweet was a retweet of someone else’s claim that “Millennials have a message for the Joe Biden generation: hurry up and die.”

When another Twitter user posted a picture of Ms. Warren and 2020 Democratic presidential rival Kamala Harris and asked “co-Presidents?” Betts poured scorn.

“Nahh, but only cuz Harris is a cop - Warren I’d happily vote for,” he replied.

When noting that alt-right demonstrators were marching in Charlottesville, a rally that later ended in the death of Heather Heyer, he exhorted his followers: “Kill every fascist.”

According to Heavy, Betts also shared posts about “concentration camps” at the border and wrote, “Cut the fences down. Slice ICE tires. Throw bolt cutters over the fences.”

His profile specified his preferred pronouns as “he/him.”

As of Sunday, Dayton police said they had no proof of Betts‘ motive.

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Dayton OH shooter, Conner Betts

Just excerpting his social media comments from a longer opinion piece

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So now you don't have to rely on the media to tell you what Crusius was (purportedly) thinking. - SIGNY

It doesn't matter, and never will, what crazy people think. - SECONDRATE

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After El Paso, We Can No Longer Ignore Trump’s Role in Inspiring Mass Shootings

A four-page manifesto authorities believe was written by Crusius and posted shortly before the El Paso attack is full of the kind of hateful rhetoric and ideas that have flourished under Trump.

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Damn! but you hate a lot of people. AND you've advocated "eradicating" them too!- SIGNY

Just fascists. -TWITCHY

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So now you don't have to rely on the media to tell you what Crusius was (purportedly) thinking. - SIGNY

It doesn't matter, and never will, what crazy people think. - SECONDRATE

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Oh really? If that's the case, why did you post this?

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After El Paso, We Can No Longer Ignore Trump’s Role in Inspiring Mass Shootings

A four-page manifesto authorities believe was written by Crusius and posted shortly before the El Paso attack is full of the kind of hateful rhetoric and ideas that have flourished under Trump.

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Yanno, this is just one more example of why I don't believe a word. You'll say anything, post ANYthing, even if of flat-out contradicts the thing that you just posted the day - or the minute- before, if it allows you to hate on Trump, Texas Republicans, the GOP, or Americans in general. You don't have opnions, you have hate.

So, I still don't believe you because your posts are so much piss in the wind.

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In the final analysis, Signym, you are always looking at the opinions of tiny weaklings who really aren't capable of having any real impact on the world unless somebody stronger and more competent makes and sells them a semi-automatic rifle.- SECONDRATE

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Dayton OH shooter, Conner Betts

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Signym, I have to repeat because you are crazy: No opinion of a crazy person is worth analyzing. What is worth paying close attention to is the semi-automatic rifle owned by the crazy person and the act of a Republican Congress protecting the rights of gun dealers to sell to the crazy: "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Lawful_Commerce_in_Arms_Ac
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In that law, the Republicans mandated "safety" locks be included with weapons. I feel so much "safer" but I'm pretty sure the key to the lock is given to the crazy person who made the purchase so that the weapon could be used at Walmart. Just remember to not be so crazy as to forget to unlock your semi-automatic rifle before pulling the trigger.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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More piss in the wind from SECONDRATE. NOW! with even MORE STRAWMAN!

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So now you don't have to rely on the media to tell you what Crusius was (purportedly) thinking. - SIGNY

It doesn't matter, and never will, what crazy people think. - SECONDRATE

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Oh really? If that's the case, why did you post this?

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After El Paso, We Can No Longer Ignore Trump’s Role in Inspiring Mass Shootings

A four-page manifesto authorities believe was written by Crusius and posted shortly before the El Paso attack is full of the kind of hateful rhetoric and ideas that have flourished under Trump.

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Yanno, this is just one more example of why I don't believe a word. You'll say anything, post ANYthing, even if of flat-out contradicts the thing that you just posted the day - or the minute- before, if it allows you to hate on Trump, Texas Republicans, the GOP, or Americans in general. You don't have opnions, you have hate.

So, I still don't believe you because your posts are so much piss in the wind.

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Damn! but you hate a lot of people. AND you've advocated "eradicating" them too!- SIGNY

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Oh, baloney. Don't forget, you stupid little moron, that we read and responded to your MULTIPLE posts about how you would happily eradicate billions of people. What, do you think that those posts have magically disappeared and that people have forgotten?

You, REAVERBOT, and SECONDRATE have consistently advocated violence against whole groups of people, and (of the three of you) you're the most extreme.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
"I used to have dissociative identity disorder. We’re all good now."
Do Right, Be Right. :)

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"I used to have dissociative identity disorder. We’re all good now."
Do Right, Be Right. :)

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6ix, it is pretty clear you don't understand the difference between a crazy person really murdering 22 people at Walmart and fantasies about making America great again when a silly old fool with diarrhea of the mouth called Trump dies and V.P. Mike Pence becomes President. 6ix, buy a semi-automatic rifle and make your fantasies realities. Isn't owning an AR-15 every Trump-voter's dream?

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Trying to compare Switzerland and the US and come up with one single reason why it's different is pretty crazy. The US and Switzerland really have nothing in common. Too many variables.

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Fuck variables. How about the change in 2005 to laws by Republicans? All the Nay votes against the atrocity called the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act" came from Democrats:

Last week, the gun-maker Remington, which had annual sales of approximately $600 million in 2017, asked the Supreme Court to overturn a Connecticut decision that gave Sandy Hook families the ability to sue the company over the way it marketed the weapon used in the 2012 school massacre.

The ability to bring suits against gun manufacturers would give American citizens a powerful tool to hold gun-makers liable for the damage their weapons cause—much as cigarette companies were vulnerable to suits for the harms of tobacco. It’s not clear whether John Roberts’ court will take the case, and if it does, whether it will side with the families or uphold protections that gun-makers have enjoyed since the Bush administration.

At issue is a 2005 law called the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act" (PLCAA), which gives gun manufacturers and dealers immunity from the vast majority of lawsuits that could be brought as a result of crimes committed with their firearms. NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre called it “the most significant piece of pro-gun legislation in twenty years.”

He was right that the law would be a boon to gun manufacturers and dealers. Federal appeals courts in New York and California concluded that the law precluded lawsuits under New York and California law. Federal courts in D.C. and Colorado—along with state courts in Alaska, Illinois and Missouri—also held that the law barred suits against the gun industry.

But the Connecticut case dramatically expanded an exception to the PLCAA. Earlier this year, the Connecticut Supreme Court ruled in a 4-3 decision that the estates of victims of the Sandy Hook massacre could sue the manufacturer of the assault rifle used by the man who murdered them under state law because it advertised its product in a manner that could promote mass shootings, such as its slogan, “Forces of opposition, bow down. You are single-handedly outnumbered.”

Remington asked the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn the decision.

More at www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/05/gun-control-supreme-court-2
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Now that I think of it, the name "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act" should be changed to "Sell More Semi-Automatic Rifles to the Crazy Act". The Swiss don't sell to the crazy, but being crazy is no obstacle to an American buying a rifle. Only being too poor to buy will stop Americans from exercising their Second Amendment right. Here is a hint: when asked by gun dealers if you are crazy, tell them no. That hint works only in America, but not in Switzerland.

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