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BTW... none of those bullet points are legit. Either they are flat out not criminal "offenses" (which only some people are even offended by), but the rest of them are hearsay and/or anonymous claims with no actual evidence to back them up.

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What a great debating strategy! "Nuh-uh!" Waving that big red "Clueless" flag again.

Clearly, Trump's Ukraine phone transcript is evidence at the very least of abuse of power. I suppose you can go turtle and keep saying "nuh-uh!" about everything though - have at it.

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Key Points

President Donald Trump will win reelection easily in 2020 if the economy holds up, modeling by Moody’s Analytics shows.
“If voters were to vote primarily on the basis of their pocketbooks, the president would steamroll the competition,” the report states.
Three models show Trump getting at least 289 electoral votes and as many as 351, assuming average turnout.
The Moody’s models have been backtested to 1980 and were correct each time — except in 2016, when it indicated Clinton would get a narrow victory.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'll just sit back and watch myself be right again. I don't have to debate anything with people who are clearly wrong all the time.


https://www.moodysanalytics.com/-/media/article/2019/president-electio
n-model.pdf

(BTW... Yes, that's a possible 380 electoral votes for Trump's re-election with low voter turnout. It's not a typo. Maybe the 351 that the first article I posted by CNBC was? Either that, they didn't bother to actually look at the report, OR THEY WERE LYING AGAIN.)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I looked at the whole report.

It says that under ideal (for you) conditions, the Democrats barely eek out a win.

Moody's has only been wrong once in 40 years. It said that Clinton would eek out a victory in 2016.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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BTW... none of those bullet points are legit. Either they are flat out not criminal "offenses" (which only some people are even offended by), but the rest of them are hearsay and/or anonymous claims with no actual evidence to back them up.

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What a great debating strategy! "Nuh-uh!" Waving that big red "Clueless" flag again.

Clearly, Trump's Ukraine phone transcript is evidence at the very least of abuse of power. I suppose you can go turtle and keep saying "nuh-uh!" about everything though - have at it.

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Just more shit for Jack to deny has any truth to it.


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Originally posted by THG:

Can't wait for Bolton to be subpoenaed. He said he wants to get a chance to make his case against Trumps claims against him.

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John Bolton ‘Increasingly Likely’ to Get Subpoena From House Democrats

The possibility that they issue him a subpoena is “increasingly likely,” according to a source familiar with their thinking. Bolton was President Trump’s national security adviser from April 2018 until last month, when he unceremoniously left the White House.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/john-bolton-increasingly-likel
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Second wrote: " I'm also the kind of person who pines for the good old days when Firefly was making new episodes. "

I've always found it interesting that we have such strong difference of opinion..and yet our views seem to be the same..just out of different portal?
example...Joss could make Firefly on the backside of his perspective of a Bush presidency, I could watch if while under the Obama presidency and we both see the same picture of a biased, lying, racist, unethical, unconstitutional, cheating, wealth grabbing , etc, etc. what you folks scream about under Trump.. I was screaming about under Obama. and I felt Firefly was every bit as appropriate in it's detest of one as it can be applied to another...but in the end, it seems as bad as we treat each other on this forum, we keep coming back...must be something in common..something we can sense, can "smell" about what's wrong in Washington..what's wrong with city mayors, state governors, congressman, judiciaries...whether it's postus, scotus, or scrotums...we all know it needs to change..to get better..and yet I think by the time we reach the years that Firefly is supposed to exist in...yep..we'll find it's every bit as foul...keep flying...

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Second wrote: " I'm also the kind of person who pines for the good old days when Firefly was making new episodes. "

I've always found it interesting that we have such strong difference of opinion..and yet our views seem to be the same..just out of different portal?
example...Joss could make Firefly on the backside of his perspective of a Bush presidency, I could watch if while under the Obama presidency and we both see the same picture of a biased, lying, racist, unethical, unconstitutional, cheating, wealth grabbing , etc, etc.

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Definition of surly
1 : menacing or threatening in appearance surly weather
2 obsolete : arrogant, imperious
3 : irritably sullen and churlish in mood or manner : crabbed

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The word you're looking for THUGR is "surely" ... to act with assurances, to be sure.

The word you used was "surly" ...

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2 obsolete : arrogant, imperious
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Altho it's just a typo, you managed to hit on a word that means something and I don't think that's what you meant.

I read the transcript, did you? Zelenskiy starts out by saying he's looking forward to purchasing the Javelin. If he thought there was a hangup in funding, how could he be looking forward to something he wasn't sure he would get?

I dunno ... this whole "impeachment" thing seems just as cockeyed as the RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA! hoax.

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Enough of your Russian trolling. Look at the photo dipshit. It says it all. Zwlenskiy knows he's sitting next to a crazy person and he needs to be very very careful. After all, Trump and his cronies have been extorting him for quite a while now.
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Talking to Fox News’s Chris Wallace, Mulvaney insisted, absurdly, that he did not, in fact, confirm there was a quid pro quo with Ukraine. Wallace did not buy the make-believe story Mulvaney was selling. Unsurprisingly, within hours of his briefing concluding, Mulvaney released a statement denying he said what he said. That unconvincing damage control operation continues.

"Team Trump’s efforts to spin Mulvaney’s quid pro quo confession are not going well"
www.vox.com/2019/10/21/20924687/mick-mulvaney-fox-news-sunday-ukraine-
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TRUMP and his cronies??? Like ... Ivanka got a job with Energoatom (Kiev's nuclear power plant operator) for $50,000/ month and Trump got a $500,000 "speakers fee"? You mean ... something fact-free, like that?

Don't you mean Biden, his son, and a gaggle of DNC cronies and operatives have been extorting Ukraine for a long time?

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The word you're looking for THUGR is "surely" ... to act with assurances, to be sure.

The word you used was "surly" ...

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/surly

Altho it's just a typo, you managed to hit on a word that means something and I don't think that's what you meant.

I read the transcript, did you? Zelenskiy starts out by saying he's looking forward to purchasing the Javelin. If he thought there was a hangup in funding, how could he be looking forward to something he wasn't sure he would get?

I dunno ... this whole "impeachment" thing seems just as cockeyed as the RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA! hoax.

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Enough of your Russian trolling. Look at the photo dipshit. It says it all. Zwlenskiy knows he's sitting next to a crazy person and he needs to be very very careful. After all, Trump and his cronies have been extorting him for quite a while now.
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Where is the evidence that points to a "quid pro quo"?

Oh that's right ... you live in a evidence-free world, which is why you keep getting fooled over and over ... from Vietnam all the way to today.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If that's Hershey bars and Peanut Butter Cups in that bowl, that's a great deal.

I'd give dirt on Biden's son for candy corn.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Trump is suppose to be at work this morning, but instead he is panicking

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TRUMP and his cronies??? Like ... Ivanka got a job with Energoatom (Kiev's nuclear power plant operator) for $50,000/ month and Trump got a $500,000 "speakers fee"? You mean ... something fact-free, like that?
Don't you mean Biden, his son, and a gaggle of DNC cronies and operatives have been extorting Ukraine for a long time?


You're just to stupid and dishonest to post anything with factual content comrade sig.- TUGR

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I see comrade sig is making up quotes again. Oh well, I'll just cut and paste it in her beloved gardens thread.

And comrade kiki, anymore crazy bug-eyed Clinton pictures show up in my threads, like you just did in another thread, they too go to the gardens thread.

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Diplomat provides House with 'disturbing' account on Ukraine

"Lawmakers did not discuss details of what they heard in the closed-door session"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/diplomat-provides-house-with-d
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I see comrade sig is making up quotes again. Oh well, I'll just cut and paste it in her beloved gardens thread.

And comrade kiki, anymore crazy bug-eyed Clinton pictures show up in my threads, like you just did in another thread, they too go to the gardens thread.

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I might ask Haken to put THUGR's posts into troll country.

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I might ask Haken to put THUGR's posts into troll country.

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Senate Judiciary Committee Chair Lindsey Graham introduces resolution condemning Democrats' closed-door impeachment process. If Graham does get an open-door process, Trump's tax returns will be made public when Congress gets them, even before the forensic accountants begin their work of finding tax cheating. I, for one, would love to see Trump's 2017, 2018, 2019 tax returns while he is still in office. I got to Obama's while they were fresh. https://s3.amazonaws.com/pdfs.taxnotes.com/2019/B_Obama_2009.pdf

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Once again, I fail to see how what you post has anything at all to do with what you quote before the post.

Imagine that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Once again, I fail to see how what you post has anything at all to do with what you quote before the post.

Imagine that.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You're trolling me.

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I also fail to see how commenting on your repeated attempts to show the world what a mental midget you are is trolling.

You do enough trolling for the both of us, buddy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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When will this Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition be over?

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By the first week of September, the “favor” Trump had alluded to in vague terms in a July phone call with Zelensky had become a very specific demand: Ukraine’s president, a former actor, would be required to deliver lines on CNN prepared for him by two American diplomats acting on orders from Trump and his shadow secretary of state, Rudy Giuliani.

The White House script to be read by Zelensky would tell CNN: “Special attention should be paid to the problem of interference in the political processes of the United States, especially with the alleged involvement of some Ukrainian politicians. I want to declare that this is unacceptable. We intend to initiate and complete a transparent and unbiased investigation of all available facts and episodes including those involving Burisma and the 2016 U.S. elections.”

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When will this Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition be over?

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When will this Witch Hunt Fishing Expedition be over?

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When it stops generating ad revenue from clicks.

Or when all of the Legacy Media outfits layoff all of their employees.

We get closer to both of those outcomes everyday.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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More testimony today about this from the diplomat who texted his concerns about Trump holding up aid for dirt on Biden.

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Nah. I'm just revolted by your side.

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