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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Michael Bloomberg flew to Arkansas to file paperwork to become a presidential candidate in the state’s Democratic primary.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/12/us/politics/bloomberg-deval-patrick
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
My chances of voting for 'not the democrat' are rising every day.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
We need to start adding back to the list again? I thought we should just be whittling it down. Guess somebody should list whatever the current roster is, periodically.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
William Hope?

All we need is Theodore Change for VP and we got ourselves a winning ticket.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I didn't think you were a fan of the Bill & Ted franchise.

Bill & Ted's Hope and Change.



Nadia Smalley running twice?

2 different Joe Holts running?
2 different De'Sean Hawthornes running?



That list also includes Beto, who already dropped out. I had meant a list of current runners.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
William Hope?

All we need is Theodore Change for VP and we got ourselves a winning ticket.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I didn't think you were a fan of the Bill & Ted franchise.

Bill & Ted's Hope and Change.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I've heard Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton. Have you not heard that too?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I've only heard Hilliary as a joke.

But I'll take your word.

What will be Hilliary's slogan? Impeach Trump!
What will be Trump's slogan? Impeach Hilliary!

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I will not have my fwiends widiculed by the common soldiewy!

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
These are interesting graphics ...

Though I suspect the shift in topics has a lot to do with the questions asked. 'He who asks the questions gets to determine the answers.'




I was GOING to do a time-analysis of the third debate but it would have taken too much .. well ... time. But Bloomberg did do a time analysis of yesterday's fourth debate.




https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bidens-black-vote-blunder-and-tuls
i-vs-kamala-20-key-highlights-last-nights-democratic

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Oooh. Did you watch it? How did Tulsi do?

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
... to avoid endless wars, one must sit down and talk with one's adversaries.

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Oooh. Did you watch it? How did Tulsi do?

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I recorded it and am listening to it in pieces.

MSNBC did a crap job with their scheduling ... they had a pre-debate listing and a post-debate listing so I had to record everything since there was no debate-debate listing. So I had to watch beginnings and ends of the recordings to figure out which to keep. Anyway - it's how I got to see a Tulsi-Pete interchange where Pete interrupted with a really cheap shot. Some of the opinions I've read is that he came across in the debate as small-minded and mean. In that interchange, he sure did. Tulsi did a subtle eye-roll but otherwise kept her composure, continued on, and made her points ...

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sit down and talk with one's adversaries.

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Joe Biden Makes a Gaffe that Isn’t

If you took a break from the impeachment circus, you might have tuned into the Democratic debates on Wednesday. The following morning, Lawrence O’Donnell jumped on former Vice President Joe Biden’s “gaffe” in claiming he had the endorsement of America’s only African American woman senator. Senator Kamala Harris retorted, “That’s not true . . . the other one is here.”

Harris does have dark skin, as O’Donnell noted. But her claim to being “African American,” the term Biden actually used, is controversial. Harris’s parents were born in Jamaica and India. You don’t voluntarily immigrate into a community that is supposedly segregated, and then claim the struggles of people who have been here chained to chattel slavery for multiple generations. Biden’s “gaffe” may have been a subtle reminder of that to his base of support within the African American community.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
lol

Kamala Harris. What a joke. Even brain damaged Biden was able to play 4D Chess on her virtue signalling, fake-black ass...

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Joe Biden Makes a Gaffe that Isn’t

If you took a break from the impeachment circus, you might have tuned into the Democratic debates on Wednesday. The following morning, Lawrence O’Donnell jumped on former Vice President Joe Biden’s “gaffe” in claiming he had the endorsement of America’s only African American woman senator. Senator Kamala Harris retorted, “That’s not true . . . the other one is here.”

Harris does have dark skin, as O’Donnell noted. But her claim to being “African American,” the term Biden actually used, is controversial. Harris’s parents were born in Jamaica and India. You don’t voluntarily immigrate into a community that is supposedly segregated, and then claim the struggles of people who have been here chained to chattel slavery for multiple generations. Biden’s “gaffe” may have been a subtle reminder of that to his base of support within the African American community.

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Warren should choose her as her running mate. They've got a lot in common, and have spent their entire professional lives lying about their heritage to move up in the world. I'm sure that will go over really well when Trump rips them a new asshole on the issue in the general debate.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Both we and Russia have big sticks - nuclear arsenals that individually can destroy the entire planet multiple times over.

I'm not sure why either MUSHY or JSF feels so nervous about negotiating with Russia. Do you think that big stick is too limp?

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I think the reason you forget these examples is specifically because they did NOT lead to war. Instead, they deescalated tensions. And that's a good thing.

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Obama Takes the Field and Hillary May be Around the Corner
Stephen J. Sniegoski

In November, Barack Obama, who had avoided commenting on the Democratic presidential primary, came out forcefully in opposition to the extreme positions taken by some leading progressive contenders, positions that could cause the Democrats to be beaten by Trump in the 2020 election. Obama was a very popular president among Democrats, and what he has to say carries considerable weight with them. While this may not be his intent, Obama’s position could open the field for Hillary Clinton to enter the fray and quite possibly become the Democrats’ nominee, given the lackluster performance of leading “moderate” Joe Biden, whose weaknesses have been brought out by the mainstream media, despite their animosity toward Trump.

Now many in the Democratic Party leadership, as well as wealthy Democratic donors

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, have been concerned for some time about the radical nature of some of the economic policies advocated by the leading progressive Democratic contenders. They fear that instead of the 2020 election revolving around Trump with his low approval ratings, and very likely his impeachment, which would seem to be a slam-dunk victory for Democrats, it would focus on those radical economic proposals. Many voters are skeptical about how free college for all, free health care for all, high-paying jobs in “green energy”—after greatly reducing the use of fossil fuels, free childcare for all, just to name some of the “free” things that have been promised, would really work. Instead of raising taxes on the middle class, most of these free things would purportedly be paid for by the super-wealthy, which would exclude mere millionaires such as Bernie Sanders (estimated wealth $2 million) and Elizabeth Warren (estimated wealth $12 million) who are the leading progressive contenders.

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Obama began stressing his concern about the danger of radicalism in an October speech at the Obama Foundation Summit in Chicago. And he did this not by dealing with presidential candidates but with youth who think they can immediately change society. “This idea of purity and you’re never compromised, and you’re always politically woke and all that stuff, you should get over that quickly,” Obama lectured. “The world is messy. There are ambiguities. People who do really good stuff have flaws.”

It was at a gathering of Democratic donors in Washington, D.C., in November that Obama cautioned Democratic candidates not to go too far to the left since that would antagonize many voters who would otherwise support the Democratic candidate. “Even as we push the envelope and we are bold in our vision we also have to be rooted in reality,” Obama asserted. “The average American doesn’t think we have to completely tear down the system and remake it.” Although Obama did not specify particular Democratic candidates, his warning was widely interpreted as being directed at Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders.

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Currently, the leading candidate for the Democratic nomination, according to national polls, is Joe Biden, who is considered a moderate. But Biden has a number of problems. He continues to make gaffes while speaking, and during his long career in the Senate took positions that are antithetical to the Democratic Party of today. Moreover, he lacks the charisma to attract large crowds to his events. Thus, it is questionable that he has the capability to attract large numbers of Democratic voters to the polls in November 2020.

According to Politico Magazine, Obama was recently discussing election tactics with an unnamed current candidate and “pointed out that during his own 2008 campaign, he had an intimate bond with the electorate” and he is quoted as adding, “And you know who really doesn’t have it? Joe Biden.”

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Biden’s appeal already seems to be waning... [cites various polls] ... corrupt activities of his son Hunter and brother James, who have taken advantage of their connection with him. ... article in the non-partisan, anti-government Intercept titled, “Joe Biden’s Family Has Been Cashing in on His Career for Decades. Democrats Need to Acknowledge That,”

David Axelrod, Democratic strategist and longtime aide to Barack Obama, said concerns about Biden’s electability clearly influenced multi-billionaire (estimated $53 billion) and former New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg’s entrance into the contest for the Democratic nominee for president. “There’s no question that Bloomberg’s calculus was that Biden was occupying a space, and the fact that he’s getting in is a clear indication that he’s not convinced Biden has the wherewithal to carry that torch,” Axelrod said. “So yeah, I don’t think this is a positive development for Joe Biden.”

Similarly, Democratic strategist Brad Bannon contended that “centrist Democrats and wealthy donors have lost confidence in Biden’s ability to stop Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders from winning the nomination.” Bannon added that with Bloomberg entering the Democratic presidential race, “Biden’s fundraising will get even shakier than it already is. There’s only room for one moderate in this race and Bloomberg threatens Biden’s status as the centrist standard-bearer.”

Bloomberg’s “stop and frisk” policy as mayor, which largely targeted blacks and Hispanics, should make it virtually impossible that he could be the Democratic nominee, despite his recent apology. Unless he has become senile in his late 70s, Bloomberg should well understand this since he did not make his billions by being stupid. It could be that he intends to serve as a stalking horse to draw Hillary Clinton into the contest by showing the weakness of Biden. Then like Superwoman, Hillary can enter the fray, appearing not to act for her own sake but to save the country from a likely second term for President Trump....

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... Dick Morris, who was once a close confidant of the Clintons during Bill Clinton’s time as Arkansas governor and U.S. president recently said in a radio interview that Hillary Clinton likely wants to run for the presidency in 2020. “My feeling is that she wants to,” Morris said. “She feels entitled to do it. She feels compelled to do it. She feels that God put her on the Earth to do it. But she’s hesitant because she realizes the timing is bad.”

However, Morris contends that Clinton believes that she has to “wait until Biden drops out because he’s obviously next in line for it, and if he goes away, there’s an opening for her.” According to Morris’ scenario, Clinton would become the moderate candidate opposed to the leading progressive, Elizabeth Warren.

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... It should be pointed out that Clinton has a number of positives as a presidential candidate. Although losing in the Electoral College in 2016, Clinton had garnered 3 million more votes more than Trump. The election was decided by a total of 80,000 votes in three states. It is highly unlikely that such a fluke could be duplicated.

... Moreover, one key event outside the control of Clinton’s staff was FBI Director James Comey’s investigation of Clinton’s use of a personal email server during her tenure as secretary of state. Most crucial were his July 2016 public statement terminating the investigation, with a lengthy comment about what Clinton did wrong, and his October 28 reopening the inquiry into newly discovered emails and then closing it two days before the election, stating that the emails had not provided any new information.

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... Clinton has also helped to convince many Democrats and members of the mainstream media that the 2016 election was stolen from her by Russian agents

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I discussed the merits of Pete Buttigieg in a previous article in Unz Review,

and what I write here might seem to conflict with that. However, while Buttigieg is doing quite well in the polls, he still does not get much support from blacks and Latinos, which is essential to become the Democrats nominee for president. Buttigieg could, however, be nominated for vice president or, more likely, given an important cabinet position since the vice-presidential slot would probably be reserved for a black or Latino if a white person were picked as the presidential nominee, which currently seems likely.

But because of Buttigieg’s relatively hardline foreign policy, which largely meshes with that of Clinton’s, and his wide knowledge and language ability, Buttigieg would fit well in the all-important position of secretary of state in a Clinton administration. Moreover, Buttigieg, whose tenure as mayor of South Bend, Indiana, will end in January 2020, would almost certainly be willing to take such a position, which could serve as a jumping-off point for the presidency in the future.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Overall, I think I misunderstood your post JSF. "Whittling our Stick down to a twig in the Teens did well to bring on The War To End All Wars.
Doing the same in the 30's convinced Imperial Japan that they needed to attack Pearl Harbor (yes, we were talking with them, while carrying our twig)." I thought it meant you were NOT for negotiating. But now I think your point was that you are for negotiating, as long as you can back it up, so the opposing party takes you seriously.

Do I have it right?

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]Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think the questions are: who does Wall Street and the globalists support? Who does the Deep State support? If Warren and Sanders are serious about their proposed reforms, Wall Street would be absolutely against them. Anyone running an antiwar campaign, like Tulsi Gabbard, will be smeared to the utmost by the deep state and its compliant media as a Russian asset, as is currently happening with Gabbard, so nobody else will set foot in that arena. So who does that leave?

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Posted just because I thought the headline and strapline were funny ...


Democrats Spin Kamala Harris Tap-Out Into Racial Injustice Story
'Black women are held to a different standard...' (by Democrats?)

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