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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Whaddya say?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
LO ....Wait for it.... L

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I hope Haken reads this thread and has a good sense of humor.

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SIX: I hope Haken reads this thread and has a good sense of humor.

WISHY: Haken hasn't been around much since you started posting, coincidence?

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[Originally posted by SIGNYM:


Maybe SIX is Haken!

Maybe Haken is Putin!

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Do they make you guys take a course in gaslighting? I mean, not everyone has it in them to lie like a dirty pig and manipulate like a Monster-IN-Law would.

DO you tell yourself "FOR THE CAUSE!!" every day when you log in??

DO you think "This is what I really wanted to do with my adult time. I wanted to turn the whole world into lying corrupt backstabbers like my hero Putin!"

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SIX: Yes. I am Jack. I am Haken. I am Putin.

Might as well come clean now about everything. I'm also Reaverfan. I am Donald Trump. I am Nancy Pelosi. I am George Soros.

And Justin Trudeau. My apologies to all offended for the blackface, BTW.

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Originally posted by second:
Fox president explains why Firefly had to be canceled.

"If I had to do it over again, I might have reconsidered it but I'm not sure it would have changed anything. It was a numbers thing. It was a wonderful show and I loved it and I loved working with Joss on it but that was a big show, a very expensive show and it wasn't delivering the numbers."

www.syfy.com/syfywire/former_fox_president_explains_why_firefly_had_to
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A lot of comments on my earlier post and on Whedonesque claim that Serenity under-performed because of bad marketing.

I have to disagree. $25M box office means the film got out there. There were enough people who saw it for it to have great word of mouth, had they felt like telling their friends. Much as I am a huge fan of Joss, and the Jossverse, and Firefly, the movie did not work that well for the mainstream audience. Or it would have been a sleeper hit.

You can say (and some do), "Anecdotally, non-Browncoats liked the movie." But either they did not like it enough to recommend it to other Firefly non-fans; or when they told you they liked it, they were just being nice.

Great marketing gets you a great opening weekend. It cannot make a flop into a hit. (Film marketers like to point to a great opening weekend, followed by a severe drop-off, as evidence that they successfully sold a piece of crap. Any fool can market a good movie.)

Whether Serenity is a good movie or not is a matter of taste; probably it has a lot to do with your tolerance of, or love for, space opera. It's also a matter of perspective. Blade Runner flopped but has become a classic, casting a spell on two decades worth of dystopian futures. If Serenity winds up influencing science fiction movies to come, then we can say that it was a great movie even if it didn't blow the roof off the box office. However, if you believe that it "ought to have been" a popular movie, and failed only because the studio didn't back Joss, then you are misunderstanding the relationship between the filmmaker and the audience. Writers (and their fans) are not entitled to say "They ought to have liked it." Or, if they do, it's just not useful. It's like a comedian who says, "Well, I was just over their heads." If they don't laugh, it's not funny.

https://complicationsensue.blogspot.com/2006/07/second-guessing-contin
ued.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Haken provides this service to everybody, virtually for free. Let's just say, there's not much that I would do for $27 per month, and the site upkeep alone probably costs him money out of his own pocket after the pittance coming in via donations. He has no obligation to anybody to continue to keep this site going.

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I am Spartacus!

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I'm talking about a site that you use every day. A fan site that is not at all affiliated with FOX or anybody involved in the production of Firefly or Serenity.

Haken provides this service to everybody, virtually for free. Let's just say, there's not much that I would do for $27 per month, and the site upkeep alone probably costs him money out of his own pocket after the pittance coming in via donations. He has no obligation to anybody to continue to keep this site going.


You've made hundreds of millions of dollars in the last few years in Trump Tax Breaks alone. At least you've said so no less than 100 times already.

Throw some money Haken's way for his trouble here. Otherwise, STFU about your lies.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Haken provides this service to everybody, virtually for free. Let's just say, there's not much that I would do for $27 per month, and the site upkeep alone probably costs him money out of his own pocket after the pittance coming in via donations. He has no obligation to anybody to continue to keep this site going.

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I believe Haken has other websites he manages, so I doubt it costs much to keep this one as well. Also, when he started accepting donations he received "quite a bit". He was thinking about paying people for content they posted here, but the few people who responded told him to keep it all and keep it running. I was one of those people.

All of that is immaterial to the fact that you are acting like a Fascist.

IT'S HIS MONEY TO DO WITH WHAT HE LIKES AND NOT ONE CENT OF IT IS YOUR GODDAMN BUSINESS.

Take your jealousy and pathetic self and GET BENT

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Either you are rich, or you're not. If that funding goal doesn't get met this month, that answer is confirmed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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