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Turkey as the new Iran

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Saturday, January 12, 2019 1:53 PM

SIGNYM

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Hubby brought to my attention an article which has a very interesting interpretation - one that I never considered even tho in retrospect it should have been obvious to at least consider this as a possibility:

The power dynamic in the Middle East has changed. Turkey was part of the Obama/CIA's "Assad must go" strategy. They served as a transshipment point of arms from Libyan jihadists to Syrian jihadists, and provided an open border for al Qaeda/ISIL proxies, sold their oil and took a cut. (These proxies were paid in Saudi dinars and hopped up on Saudi-supplied meth. Saudi dinars were a medium of exchange in Raqqa.)

Anyway. After the attempted coup in Turkey - which Erdogan is convinced was fomented by the CIA - and the attack on the Turkish lira - Turkey took a decided turn away from the Saudi project and cozied up to Russia.

Saudi Arabia - having lost a partner in the anti-Assad/anti-Iran project, openly allied with Israel. But because of the Khashoggi murder, Saudi has had to rethink its strategy and has suddenly turned its attention to Turkey as the most important regional danger, not Iran. Supposedly Israel has also turned in that direction. The thinking is that Iran's power is fragile, but Turkey's is more substantive.

It's an interesting thought. What this might mean is that Saudi Arabia and Israel might be fighting a "two front" proxy/ hybrid war - one against a Sunni nation which desires to reestablish its caliphate, and the other against the presumed Shia crescent.

If I can find the article online, I'll link it.

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Saturday, October 3, 2020 5:33 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Erdogan says Turkey stands by 'oppressed' in the Caucasus
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-armenia-azerbaijan-turkey-idUKKBN26
O0IJ


At least 64 Turkey-backed Syrian rebel fighters dead in Karabakh clashes, says UK war monitor
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3104072/least-64-turkey
-backed-syrian-rebel-fighters-dead-karabakh


Turkish rejects 'superficial' Caucasus ceasefire calls
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/turkey-rejects--superficial
--caucasus-ceasefire-calls-13188662

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Monday, October 5, 2020 2:28 PM

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Turkey ignores international community, escalates its role in Azerbaijan-Armenia conflict

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/turkey-ignores-international-comm
unity-escalates-its-role-in-azerbaijan-armenia-conflict/ar-BB19J1xZ?bep_ref=1&bep_csid=22818


Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict: A Widening War Would Engulf Russia, Turkey, Iran In Complex Web Of Ties

https://www.ibtimes.com/armenia-azerbaijan-conflict-widening-war-would
-engulf-russia-turkey-iran-complex-web-3055322


Nagorno-Karabakh conflict: Turkey opposes US, Russia and France demand for ceasefire
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nagorno-karabakh-armen
ia-azerbaijan-conflict-us-russia-france-b745778.html


Why Armenia and Azerbaijan are fighting, and why it could get uglier
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/why-armenia-and-azerbaijan-are-fi
ghting-and-why-it-could-get-uglier/ar-BB19Iq3Y

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Monday, October 5, 2020 3:29 PM

SIGNYM

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Erdogan has " intervened" in Syria, Libya, and Azerbaijan, always using jihadists as proxies. He is "exploring for gas and oil" in internationally-recognized Greek and Cypriot waters, the "research ship" being accompanied by military vessel.

In addition, Erdogan is a blazingly corrupt ruler, intent on recreating the Ottoman Empire and becoming the caliphate of Islam.

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Wednesday, April 21, 2021 9:16 PM

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Wednesday, April 21, 2021 9:20 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Turkish involvement in the Syrian civil war

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_involvement_in_the_Syrian_civil_
war


Quote:

In 2019, the United States Department of the Treasury imposed sanctions on Turkish individuals and companies for providing financial support to the ISIS. The sanctions raised questions about the Turkish commitment to fight the ISIS networks inside Turkey.


Opinion: It's time for Biden to say the words 'Armenian genocide'
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/outlook/article/Opinion-It-s-
time-for-Biden-to-say-the-words-16100893.php


Los Angeles mayor calls on Biden to recognize Armenian Genocide
https://www.panorama.am/en/news/2021/04/10/Eric-Garcetti-Biden-Armenia
n-Genocide/2483923


Editorial: President Biden, call it by its name: the Armenian genocide
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-04-05/biden-armenian-genoci
de-turkey

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Wednesday, April 21, 2021 9:30 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


The American haters at TYT aren't going to be a big fan of that.

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Imagine the hypocrisy of a government who will allow businesses to card people to get a job or buy groceries, but won't card people to vote in elections and gives millions of non-citizens free money from taxpayers.

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Wednesday, April 21, 2021 9:35 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
The American haters at TYT aren't going to be a big fan of that.


America has no greater enemy than you, Nazi boy.

Hateful, racist, stupid, unducated, and a fascist who doesn't even know he's a fascist.



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Wednesday, April 21, 2021 9:35 PM

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Wednesday, April 21, 2021 10:13 PM

SIGNYM

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REAVERBOT really does his best to try and turn every interesting discussion into shit, doesn't he? I guess if he starts a flame war, he's hoping people will forget the original topic: the very definition of a troll.

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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Wednesday, April 21, 2021 10:59 PM

SIGNYM

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Don't forget that Erdogan also tried to intervene in Ukraine by supplying drones, advisors and other assistance.

The region would be so much better off without him as President.

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THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Thursday, April 22, 2021 5:47 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Because Democraps are the enemies of America, it stands to reason that they unite with other enemies of America.

That really explains most of the Libtard Foreign Policy, and Warmaking.

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Friday, April 30, 2021 1:25 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Eerie images show 'ghost town' of abandoned fairytale castles
https://au.news.yahoo.com/eerie-images-show-ghost-town-of-abandoned-fa
irytale-castles-132245499.html

It’s every Disney-lovers dream to live in a fairytale castle - but one town in Turkey appears to have trouble finding residents, leaving hundreds of picturesque mansions sitting abandoned and empty for years.
The Burj al Babas project, set among hills about 200 km east of Istanbul, was conceived as a luxury housing development with row upon row of identical cream-coloured homes, shaped like chateaus with grey turrets.
It was designed to be a luxury resort town with more than 700 mini-castles at the base of Turkey’s northwestern mountains.

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Sunday, May 9, 2021 4:46 AM

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Tuesday, June 1, 2021 9:42 AM

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Kidnappings in Africa?

Turkey celebrates anniversary of conquest of Constantinople with reading of Qur’an’s ‘Victory’ chapter
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/06/turkey-celebrates-anniversary-of-co
nquest-of-constantinople-with-reading-of-qurans-victory-chapter


Nephew of Fetullah Gulen seized and brought back to Turkey. Turkey Claims to Have ‘Captured’ Cleric’s Relative in Africa Kenya. Turkish agents claimed to capture nephew of US-based cleric overseas?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57304094

Turkey agents nab cleric's nephew overseas
https://thewest.com.au/politics/turkey-agents-nab-clerics-nephew-overs
eas-c-2981115

The nephew of cleric Fethullah Gulen who was thought to be living in Kenya has reportedly been captured by Turkish agents

Turkey in Kurdistan: The Window of Opportunity to Prevent Another Genocide is Closing.
https://greekcitytimes.com/2021/06/01/turkey-kurdistan-genocide/
President Joe Biden formally recognized the Armenian Genocide, making this the first U.S. administration to do so.

The Gülen movement is a former ally of the Turkish Justice and Development Party (AKP). When the AKP came to power in 2002 the two formed, despite their differences, a tactical alliance against military tutelage and the Turkish secular elite. A U.S.-based umbrella foundation which is affiliated with the movement is the Alliance for Shared Values. The movement has attracted supporters and drawn the attention of critics in Turkey, Central Asia, and other parts of the world. It is active in education and operates private schools and universities in over 180 countries. It has initiated forums for interfaith dialogue. It has substantial investments in media, finance, and for-profit health clinics. Gülen was named as one of TIME magazine's World's 100 Most Influential People in 2013.

Fethullah Gülen
https://en.wikipedia.org/
' is a Turkish Islamic scholar, preacher, and a one-time opinion leader (as de facto leader of the Gülen movement: an international, faith-based civil society organization once aligned with Turkey's government, but since then outlawed as an alleged "armed terrorist group")'

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Friday, July 2, 2021 5:15 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


US Adds Turkey to List of Countries Who Use Child Soldiers
https://greekreporter.com/2021/07/02/turkey-list-countries-use-child-s
oldiers
/

Pakistan, Turkey added to child soldier recruiter list
https://www.dawn.com/news/1632676/us-adds-pakistan-turkey-to-child-sol
dier-recruiter-list


The United States on Thursday added Turkey to a list of countries that are implicated in the use of child soldiers over the past year, placing a NATO ally for the first time in such a list, in a move that is likely to further complicate the already fraught ties between Ankara and Washington.

The U.S. State Department determined in its 2021 Trafficking in Persons that Turkey was providing "Tangible support" to the Sultan Murad division in Syria, a faction of Syrian opposition that Ankara has long, supported and a group that Washington said recruited and used child soldiers.

"As a respected regional leader and member of NATO, Turkey has the opportunity to address this issue - the recruitment and use of child soldiers in Syria and Libya," she said.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/us-adds-turkey-list-countrie
s-implicated-use-child-soldiers-2021-07-01
/

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Saturday, October 23, 2021 3:32 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Turkey moves to throw out US and nine other envoys

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59023465

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Saturday, December 11, 2021 9:34 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Turkey calls out internet websites and 'fakenews'

Erdogan says social media a 'threat to democracy'
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/turkeys-erdogan-social-
media-threat-democracy-81690389


I don't think he's always wrong, even a broken clock can be correct twice a day


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Thursday, March 10, 2022 4:39 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Russia is using jihadi islamics?

Chechen warlord promises shock troops for invasion
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/7d464850-9674-11ec-9aec-82f0032d4cd
3?shareToken=ebe81fd110e6ea3f3752bfb3e42b078c


Turkey to Host Meeting of Ukrainian, Russian Foreign Ministers
https://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/272374569/turkey-to-host-meeting-o
f-ukrainian-russian-foreign-ministers


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Thursday, March 10, 2022 5:42 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


The current Chechen leader - Ramzan Kadyrov- isn't a jihadist. I have no idea WTF your article is talking about, bc the link that you provided doesn't have any related article. However, it IS full of bullshit, which is what I would expect of western press.

No wonder you're confused!

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Thursday, March 10, 2022 5:57 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Signym cheering for the Chechen islamo mercenary terrorist

Wow so you're sucking the cock off the inbred islamic type now...never thought I'd see the day


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
The current Chechen leader - Ramzan Kadyrov- isn't a jihadist.




Ramzan Kadyrov is a rabid islamic jihadist dog that dumbass Russians think they can control

Kadyrov stated legal approval of jihadi shitlamic so called 'honor killings' of seven women, after the Charlie Hebdo cartoons, he almost went full retard screeching out Death to Europe 'Death to America' saying "we will not allow anyone to insult the pedophile demonic Prophet Muhammad, even if it will cost us our lives." According to Kadyrov, the demonic prophet moohammad who prayed to a Moongod was a great man, he said Chechen terrorist men legally marrying more than one wife would be more honest than having many mistresses, he approves of moohammed's lifestyle and his marraige to 6 yr old Aisha. Kadyrov posted jihaid terroristic trheat videos of Russian opposition politicians Mikhail Kasyanov and Vladimir Vladimirovich Kara-Murza in the crosshairs of a gun on his Instagram blog. The islamist jihadist Ramzan Kadyrov ordered Chechen security forces to "shoot to kill" if they encountered police officers from other parts of Russia on the territory of the Chechen Republic

Kadyrov went extra paranoid after smoking all that hookah, shisha pipe crap and accused the CIA of framing Dzokhar Tsarnaev, he also said that LGBT lesbo gay people were "not human", but doesn't mind if a lesbian is raped to get it pregnant, he's very rich while his people live in filth, he celebrated his 35th birthday in a lavish fashion in the presence of several Hollywood stars, including actor Jean-Claude Van Damme and actress Hilary Swank (she hnags out at the Epstein New Mexico ranch) as well as British violinist Vanessa-Mae, singer Seal and many others. When it comes down to his true values...
He's an islamist jiahdist piece of shit at heart and there are hours and horus of footage of his jihadist men screaming al-Lah hu Ackbar and Death to the infidels

Explain to me your mental gymnastics

Do you desire to take it up the anus from an inbred shitlamic?

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Thursday, March 10, 2022 6:12 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:



... SIGNY:
The current Chechen leader - Ramzan Kadyrov- isn't a jihadist.

JAYNZE: Signym cheering for the Chechen islamo mercenary terrorist
Wow so you're sucking the cock off the inbred islamic type now...never thought I'd see the day

Ramzan Kadyrov is a rabid islamic jihadist dog that dumbass Russians think they can control.

A jihadist is a Muslim who wants to spread Islam by terror and violence. Kadyrov is NOT spreading Islam outside of his borders. He IS a fundametalist Muslim, however, and wants Chehcnya to follow Islamic law, no matter how appalling we find it.

Just ... keep your definitions straight, m'kay? And keep your brains a little more tightly wrapped bc you, yourself, are going full retard.

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Thursday, March 10, 2022 6:16 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
A jihadist is a Muslim who wants to spread Islam by terror and violence.




Almost muzzies are jihadists and you have never read their book, when not enaged in direct violence they are encouraged to spread islamism by deception or by immigration, turning their women into breeding machines and have muslims invade non-muslim lands by the trojan horse of immigration just as the jihadi moohammad did in the islamic tests

it is recorded in their books as the Hegjira or 'migration' and occupation into non muslim lands.

Muslims when not enaged in direct combat are instructed to spread islam by propaganda, lies and deception

They have four words for this - how to lie to your enemy and spread islam and lie without even blinking
Taqiyya, Al-tawriya, Kitman and Al-muruna.

Know this, know these words Signym or else remain an ignorant idiot

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
and wants Chehcnya to follow Islamic law




Chechnya you mean and what was it before the low IQ inbred terroristic shitlamic culture of Mecca, Tehran and Medina arrived?

They were pagans, Christians, Jews, Folk religion, prayed to a Mongol Asian leader, worshiped Stone and Sun and Rivers and prayed to Native Folk deity in Caucasian Neolithic era
What is said of all the cultures islam has holocausted


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Thursday, March 10, 2022 6:31 PM

SIGNYM

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What was Chechnya BEFORE Islam??

I don't know, that was a LONG time ago! Chechnya has been Muslim since whenever.

Quote:

The Chechens are a largely Muslim ethnic group that has lived for centuries in the mountainous North Caucasus region.

https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/chechen-terrorism-russia-chechnya-sep
aratist


What you WON'T read in western press is that the USA transported jihadists and terrorists from Afghanistan and the ME into Chechnya, hoping to create a "Vietnam" on Russia's southern border. So while Chechens have been Muslims and separatists for a long time, it was the USA that imported jihadists into Chechnya, just like the USA imported, funded, and trained jihadists is Syria.

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Thursday, March 10, 2022 6:33 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
A jihadist is a Muslim who wants to spread Islam by terror and violence.




Almost muzzies are jihadists and you have never read their book, when not enaged in direct violence they are encouraged to spread islamism by deception or by immigration, turning their women into breeding machines and have muslims invade non-muslim lands by the trojan horse of immigration just as the jihadi moohammad did in the islamic tests

Muslims when not enaged in direct combat are instructed to spread islam by propaganda, lies and deception

They have four words for this - how to lie to your enemy and spread islam and lie without even blinking
Taqiyya, Al-tawriya, Kitman and Al-muruna.

Know this, know these words Signym or else remain an ignorant idiot

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
and wants Chehcnya to follow Islamic law




Chechnya you mean and what was it before the low IQ inbred terroristic shitlamic culture of Mecca, Tehran and Medina arrived?

They were pagans, Christians, Jews, Folk religion, prayed to a Mongol Asian leader, worshiped Stone and Sun and Rivers and prayed to Native Folk deity in Caucasian Neolithic era
What is said of all the cultures islam has holocausted


Oh, BTW .... Jews have similar intructions. Rules of behavior are among Jews only. It's OK to lie to/trick/steal from non-Jews. They're also encouraged to have lot of children.

Jews aren't so much about spreading their religion, tho, bc to them being a "Jew" is more about bloodines than proselytizing.

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Thursday, March 10, 2022 6:40 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


You talk centuries

but other peoples and culture existed and still exist millennia or THOUSANDS of years before the invading jihadi shitlamics arrived

Pagan Folk religions

Church of Archangel Michael a Christian Church in the middle of Chechnya, Grozny



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Chechnya has been Muslim since whenever.




But it isn't you see, after all this time and all ths jihad, there are still minority strongholds there fighting back, keeping their culture and holding the line


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh, BTW .... Jews have the same intructions.





Yes I've read some of the Babylon Talmud a very weird book indeed, almost as fucked up as that filth and radical murderous crap in the Quran or Koran, The Mishnah Oral Tradition it influences Rabbinic Judaism and a source of Jewish religious law...knowing the wicked nature of this book. Knowing the Jewish radical have their own radical book of jihad against the goyim maybe which is why I could never full hate the insane crazy guy called 'PirateNews'

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Friday, June 3, 2022 7:14 AM

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buk buk gobble Gobble Bwaaak

Turkey Officially Changes Name at UN to 'Turkiye'

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/turkey-officially-changes-name-u
n-turkiye-2724696

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People continue to use the name 'Turkey' despite the name change

Venezuela to Become 'Port of Entry' for Turkish Investments
https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Venezuela-to-Become-Port-of-Entry-
for-Turkish-Investments-20220608-0009.html


Turkey says Finland and Sweden must change laws if needed to meet its NATO demands
https://torontosun.com/news/world/turkey-says-finland-and-sweden-must-
change-laws-if-needed-to-meet-its-nato-demands


Erdogan Renews Warning to Greece, Claims US Bases Target Turkey
https://greekreporter.com/2022/06/09/erdogan-warns-greece-us-bases-tar
get-turkey
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'We humiliated ourselves': Sweden’s bid to join NATO meets continued resistance from Turkey

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20221128-we-humiliated-ourselves-sw
eden-s-bid-to-join-nato-meets-continued-resistance-from-turkey

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Turkey hits Kurdish targets in Iraq and Syria after 9 soldiers were killed
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/middle-east/article/3248329/turkey-hit
s-kurdish-targets-iraq-and-syria-after-9-soldiers-were-killed


I wonder if you can draw a line on a map like a Big Pipe-Line when Erdogan meets with leaders of Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan

?
the Black Sea, some rocks, sand, desert, mountains and snow and then another Caspian Sea but maybe it is easy to link up a long pipe structure on a map?


VisualPolitik



dictatorship?

very similar ethnic peoples and similar language from when East islamic hordes invaded Greece

Turkish strikes aimed at Kurds in Iraq, Syria
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2024/jan/14/turkish-strikes-aimed-
at-kurds-in-iraq-syria
/

Israel: Turkey is a country “with Armenian Genocide in its past”
https://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/311779/Israel_Turkey_is_a_country
_with_Armenian_Genocide_in_its_past


Morocco Procured Israeli And Turkish Weapons That Enabled Azerbaijan To Prevail Over Armenia
https://www.forbes.com/sites/pauliddon/2023/09/21/morocco-procured-isr
aeli-and-turkish-weapons-that-enabled-azerbaijan-to-prevail-over-armenia
/

Frenchman arrested in Azerbaijan for 'espionage,' says country's ambassador to Paris
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2024/01/09/frenchman-a
rrested-in-azerbaijan-for-espionage-says-country-s-ambassador-to-paris_6416069_4.html


Moscow official accuses Armenia of “diving into absurdity”



News France24



EU Parliament accuses Baku of 'ethnic cleansing' in Nagorno-Karabakh
https://www.euronews.com/2023/10/05/eu-parliament-accuses-baku-of-ethn
ic-cleansing-in-nagorno-karabakh

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human actions, global climate change, global human solutions
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BUILD BACK BETTER!
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Ha. Haha! HAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!!!!
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You can't take the sky from me, a tribute to Firefly
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