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...when it comes to callousness in the interests of DEFENDING AGAINST A FASCIST AGENDA.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
...when it comes to callousness in the interests of DEFENDING AGAINST A FASCIST AGENDA.

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FREEDOM, bitches...It's EVERYTHING.

Maybe if China had a little bit more of it and reporters weren't silenced in the interests of "Make China Great Again" maybe they could have stopped this thing before it spread.


Maybe if our president wasn't a wannabe dictator, we could have HAD a response to this thing in time to save a hell of a lot of lives...

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What agenda?

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Originally posted by SignyM:

FREEDOM, bitches...It's EVERYTHING.

More over the top hysteria from our resident narcissist.

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TWITCHIMAY: FREEDOM, bitches...It's EVERYTHING.

SIGNY: More over the top hysteria from our resident narcissist.

TWITCHIMAY: There ya go, Sig thinks PERSONAL FREEDOM=NARCISSISM.
Nope, no fascists HERE, buddy...

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
What agenda?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

What I was responding to, TWITCHY, was "freedom is everything". Nope, freedom is NOT everything. If you're alive but not free, you might fight your way to freedom. But if you're dead, it's not like you're about to change your circumstances.

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Originally posted by second:


1) Trump lied when he blamed Obama for testing shortages.

2) Trump lied or was delusional—or something—when he said Google was ready to go with a coronavirus website.

3) Trump lied when he said he closed the border with Europe “some time ago.”

4) Trump pretended that he had no responsibility for disbanding a pandemic team in the White House.

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SIGNY: What I was responding to, TWITCHY, was "freedom is everything". Nope, freedom is NOT everything. If you're alive but not free, you might fight your way to freedom. But if you're dead, it's not like you're about to change your circumstances.

TWITCHIMAY:ARE THERE TERRIFYING ZOMBIE SPACE MONKEYS NEAR YOU OR SOMETHING?? WHO BROUGHT UP DEAD PEOPLE??

Life without freedom IS DEATH.
Slavery is just another stage of "dead".

Don't think so??

Just ask people who have been sex trafficked. They'd all say it's the best thing ever, right??

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Hey SIX! I found someone who agrees with you!

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IMHO I think I'm pretty savvy to the deviousness of our deep state. Haven't been fooled yet, as far as I can tell, by their false flags and black ops. In THIS case, tho, I think it's the real deal, or certainly has the capacity to become one unless either action is taken to stop it, or some unforeseen good fortune causes it to mutate into a kinder, gentler virus.

I don't expect you to believe me or trust what I say, but don't be so black-pilled that you can't even rationally evaluate the evidence of your senses

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The Coronavirus Pandemic Probably Won’t Have a Huge Economic Impact Next Year

The 1918 Spanish flu killed about 700,000 people in the United States—far more than the coronavirus pandemic is likely to kill. What’s more, the Spanish flu was unusual in who it killed: upwards of 70-80 percent were prime-age workers. The coronavirus, by contrast, leaves prime-age workers nearly untouched, with 70-80 percent of deaths coming from those 60 or over. From a purely economic perspective, these two things make the Spanish flu far more severe than the coronavirus is likely to be.

From a cold-eyed economic perspective, the coronavirus pandemic is unlikely to be as severe as the Spanish flu, and the Spanish flu had a surprisingly modest effect on the economy in 1919 and beyond.

Society as a whole recovered from the 1918 influenza quickly; individuals who were affected by the influenza had their lives changed forever.

More at www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/03/the-coronavirus-pandemic-probab
ly-wont-have-a-huge-economic-impact/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Good.

Glad to see that MotherJones of all places is trying to put some breaks on this stupid panic.

"Next Year" isn't going to help a lot of small businesses that were already struggling though. I think a lot of people are going to go out of business in the short term, and the Legacy Media is squarely to blame for it.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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You don't get to say that I'm incorrect then post some bullshit that isn't even related to what I said.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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The Coronavirus Pandemic Probably Won’t Have a Huge Economic Impact Next Year

The 1918 Spanish flu killed about 700,000 people in the United States—far more than the coronavirus pandemic is likely to kill. blah blah blah ...

SIX: Good.Glad to see that MotherJones of all places is trying to put some breaks on this stupid panic.
"Next Year" isn't going to help a lot of small businesses that were already struggling though. I think a lot of people are going to go out of business in the short term, and the Legacy Media is squarely to blame for it.

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Wrong.

The Legacy Media has been peddling lies, sensationalism, rage and panic to sell boner pills for years.

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Unlike your husband, mine lasts a lot longer without two people leaching off the stash too.

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Illinois Mayor Grants Herself Power To Ban Gun Sales And Alcohol During Coronavirus Epidemic

Champaign, Illinois mayor Deborah Frank Feinen signed an executive order on Thursday declaring a state of emergency to address the coronavirus.

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Among the sweeping powers she gained after signing the executive order was the ability to ban the sale of guns, ammunition, alcohol and gasoline - as well as the power to cut off access to individuals' gas, water or electricity, according to the Washington Examiner.

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The city can also "take possession of private property" and order the temporary closing of all liquor stores and bars.

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"The executive order allows the city to be flexible to properly respond to the emergency needs of our community. None of the options will necessarily be implemented but are available in order to protect the welfare and safety of our community if needed," city manager Jeff Hamilton told WAND.

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On Friday, the Champaign City Council met to discuss concerns over the sweeping powers granted to Feinen, with Deputy Mayor Tom Bruno noting that each ordinance considered under the executive order would be ratified by the council. Additionally, the city said Feinen would only take steps "necessary to ensure the health, safety, and welfare" of the city. blah blah blah...

Illinois has 64 confirmed cases of coronavirus as of this writing.

On Monday, Gov. J.B. Pritzker announced a statewide disaster proclamation to address the situation.

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Fed cuts rate to zero, launches more bond purchases in historic moves to fight coronavirus

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Now THIS is just stupid

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Illinois Mayor Grants Herself Power To Ban Gun Sales And Alcohol During Coronavirus Epidemic

Champaign, Illinois mayor Deborah Frank Feinen signed an executive order on Thursday declaring a state of emergency to address the coronavirus.

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Among the sweeping powers she gained after signing the executive order was the ability to ban the sale of guns, ammunition, alcohol and gasoline - as well as the power to cut off access to individuals' gas, water or electricity, according to the Washington Examiner.

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Because ... why??? When faced with an emergency, seems like the tyrant just comes out in some people, doesn't it? Kinda like the predrafted "Patriot" Act that came into being right after 9-11.

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The city can also "take possession of private property" and order the temporary closing of all liquor stores and bars.

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"The executive order allows the city to be flexible to properly respond to the emergency needs of our community. None of the options will necessarily be implemented but are available in order to protect the welfare and safety of our community if needed," city manager Jeff Hamilton told WAND.

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Whatever power they've granted themselves has fuck-all to do with combatting a virus.

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On Friday, the Champaign City Council met to discuss concerns over the sweeping powers granted to Feinen, with Deputy Mayor Tom Bruno noting that each ordinance considered under the executive order would be ratified by the council. Additionally, the city said Feinen would only take steps "necessary to ensure the health, safety, and welfare" of the city. blah blah blah...

Illinois has 64 confirmed cases of coronavirus as of this writing.

On Monday, Gov. J.B. Pritzker announced a statewide disaster proclamation to address the situation.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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ANOTHER stupid move

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Fed cuts rate to zero, launches more bond purchases in historic moves to fight coronavirus

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MOAR MONEY FOR THE RICH! THAT'LL SAVE US FROM THE VIRUS!

Sheesh. Like we aren't drowning in debt already??? Yanno, it was the bank bailouts in 2008 that got us to where we are now, financially-speaking.

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Nine Thoughts On COVID-19 And What’s Coming
Caitlin Johnstone

Mar 16

This gig is kinda weird at the moment. I write about what’s going on in the world for a living, and there’s certainly plenty going on in the world to be written about. But also there’s this acute awareness that anything I write about today is going to look petty and insignificant in the very near future.

I mean, we’re in the first moments of an unfolding pandemic which, from what I can tell just looking at the numbers, is about to change the world in some pretty significant ways. Governmental faceplant after governmental faceplant after missed opportunity after missed opportunity all around the world appears to have set us on a trajectory toward overburdened healthcare systems, severe economic downturns, and, of course, mass deaths.

And maybe chaos. And maybe healing. And maybe, when all is said and done, a total restructuring of power and the way we do things.

Standing on the precipice of that, how the hell am I supposed to write about how Bernie didn’t go hard enough at Biden in the last debate or whatever? So many of the arguments we’ve been placing so much importance on lately could easily look irrelevant in a matter of weeks.

Anyway, here are nine thoughts on COVID-19 and what’s coming.

1 — Everyone in conspiracy circles has strong opinions about what’s going on, so anything I could possibly say about this is going to get a ton of pushback from some faction or another. That’s fine. In my opinion the fears that the ruling class will seize this opportunity to advance preexisting authoritarian agendas are well-founded, and people are right to have suspicions about the official narrative on the origins of the virus, but people who are still saying the whole thing is fake from top to bottom and it’s just another flu/no big deal have been proved wrong by facts in evidence. People should minimize social contact to avoid overburdening healthcare systems and thereby killing people. No matter how certain you are that this is all fake, you’re not certain enough to justify needlessly risking lives.

2 — Google-owned YouTube has just announced that they’re going to be censoring a lot more videos during the pandemic, citing the need to rely on automated censorship as they scale back workers’ presence at the office. No attempt has been made to explain why YouTube staff can’t just review the material working from home. Definitely worth keeping an eye on; if widespread authoritarian measures are going to be implemented during this time, increasing internet censorship will likely be the first step.

3 — I think this is going to hit America much harder than other countries, unfortunately. Combine a literal joke of a healthcare system with a president who up until just today has been dismissive of the threat the virus poses, the fact that the majority of Americans can’t afford a $1,000 emergency expense at a time of mounting layoffs while being chronically uninsured or underinsured, an inability to make anything happen without massive corporations voluntarily going against their own profit margins, a culture of rugged individualism with a reflexive distaste for collectivist organization for the good of the whole, and a highly religious population with many preachers telling their underinsured parishioners to demonstrate their faith by gathering at the megachurch and shaking hands with everyone, and you’ve got a recipe for disaster.

Please stay as safe as you can.

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I agree with some things she wrote: it is real, it is dangerous, and people are taking advantage of it to clamp down on freedom (even more).

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None of which I posted because I didn't agree with it. But I'm sure you'll find a way to set the hounds on me for the things I chose to not post.

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None of which I posted because I didn't agree with it. But I'm sure you'll find a way to set the hounds on me for the things I chose to not post.

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What is your reaction to this story that explains a great deal about the Trump administration's response? Not everything is explained, that will have to wait for the scholarly books written many years from now:

In a tabletop exercise days before an untested new president took power, officials briefed the incoming administration on a scenario remarkably like the one he faces now.

The briefing was intended to hammer home a new, terrifying reality facing the Trump administration, and the incoming president’s responsibility to protect Americans amid a crisis.

But roughly two-thirds of the Trump representatives in that room are no longer serving in the administration. That extraordinary turnover in the months and years that followed is likely one reason his administration has struggled to handle the very real pandemic it faces now, former Obama administration officials said.

“The advantage we had under Obama was that during the first four years we had the same White House staff, the same Cabinet,” said former deputy labor secretary Chris Lu, who attended the gathering. “Just having the continuity makes all the difference in the world.”

Asked whether information about the pandemic exercise reached the president-elect, a former senior Trump administration official who attended the meeting couldn’t say for sure but noted that it wasn’t “the kind of thing that really interested the president very much.”

“He was never interested in things that might happen. He’s totally focused on the stock market, the economy and always bashing his predecessor and giving him no credit,” the person said. “The possibility things were things he didn’t spend much time on or show much interest in.

“Even though we would put time on the schedule for things like that, if they happened at all, they would be very, very brief,” the former official continued. “To get the president to be focused on something like this would be quite hard.”

More at www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-inauguration-warning-scenario-p
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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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So my question is, why are Democrats pushing demented Joe Biden as the cure?

Democrats are horrible. They have been horrible for a very, very long time. This is why Trump was elected. They still haven't figured that out.



The answer to my question about Democrats pushing demented Joe Biden as the cure is the exact same answer to why Trump got elected.

Take a long hard look at everybody else who was on that stage and what they were saying.


Stop being awful and we won't keep electing Reality TV stars as presidents.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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So my question is, why are Democrats pushing demented Joe Biden as the cure?

Democrats are horrible. They have been horrible for a very, very long time. This is why Trump was elected. They still haven't figured that out.



The answer to my question about Democrats pushing demented Joe Biden as the cure is the exact same answer to why Trump got elected.

Take a long hard look at everybody else who was on that stage and what they were saying.


Stop being awful and we won't keep electing Reality TV stars as presidents.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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The answer to all your questions are exactly the same: At least 50% and probably more of Americans, both D and R, have almost no memory for what happens. Facts and ideas fade very quickly from their brains. This poverty of memory also explains why their ordinary lives, separate from their politics, don't run smoothly:

ABC News/Ipsos has a new poll out measuring what people think of President Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic:

In the new poll, 55% of Americans approve of the president’s management of the crisis, compared to 43% who disapprove. Trump’s approval on this issue is up from last week, when the numbers were nearly reversed. Only 43% approved of Trump’s handling of the pandemic and 54% disapproved in last week’s poll.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/coronavirus-upends-nation-americans-li
ves-changed-pandemic-poll/story?id=69696172

All it took was a week for a lot of people to forget Trump’s early mismanagement. All he had to do was adopt a slightly more serious tone and all was forgiven. Truly amazing. When they start getting checks from Nancy Pelosi, a lot of people will have a much improved opinion of Trump, not Pelosi, because most Americans neither understood nor remember who did what.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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