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Jeffrey Epstein, Billionaire Accused of Molesting, Is Charged with Human Trafficking of Minors

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Thursday, December 19, 2019 10:24 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


No. You're wrong. Again.

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Tuesday, December 24, 2019 1:48 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

EPSTEIN ‘ADMITTED TO ME’ HE WAS A SPY: Ex-Business Partner Of Sex Criminal Claims Prince Andrew Is Protecting Ghislaine Maxwell, Stonewalling Prosecutors’ Investigation Over Blackmail Fears

https://medium.com/@dylanhoward/epstein-admitted-to-me-he-was-a-spy-ex-business-partner-of-sex-criminal-claims-prince-andrew-is-c1152667bb86


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Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:13 PM

SIGNYM

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Jeffrey Epstein's Brother Fears For His Life

... Mark Epstein, Epstein's only brother, hired Dr. Michael Baden to determine whether the notorious pedophile actually killed himself in a Manhattan jail cell...

Baden, a former New York City medical examiner, previously told "Fox & Friends" Jeffrey Epstein’s injuries were more consistent with murder than suicide, noting there were two bone fractures in his larynx, in the area of the Adam’s apple, and a third break on the bone above the Adam’s apple. -Fox News

"Those three fractures are extremely unusual in suicidal hangings and could occur much more commonly in homicidal strangulation," Baden said. "I’ve not seen in 50 years where that occurred in a suicidal hanging case."



I had only heard of the hyoid bone being broken. Now I hear that two MORE bones were broken, in his larynx, which (I assumed) is significantly lower than the hyoid bone. So just out of curiosity, I looked up where the hyoid bone is


The larynx is indeed lower than that. The reason this is significant is because in the case of suicidal hanging, the rope (or sheet, or whatever) tends to ride UP, catching on the angle of the jaw and the ears. I can see how a hyoid bone might be broken in a suicidal hanging - altho its rare. what I can't see is how a larynx can also be broken.
Here is speculation on "how it might have been done"

Quote:

We're looking for the wrong tape of the night Epstein hung himself.

Try and find the video of Nicholas Tartaglione, Epstein's cell mate, being transferred to another cell PRIOR TO Epstein's suicide, as was officially claimed.

It does not exist. It never happened.
— John McAfee (@officialmcafee) December 20, 2019

The thought is that Tartaglione was never transferred out, and that he committed the murder.



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I'd nuke a BILLION PEOPLE if it would save the other 7 billion from living under Putin. Hell, I might go all the way to the last 100 people on Earth to keep this planet from being under fascist rule.- WISHIMAY

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Monday, January 6, 2020 2:51 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Fake Noose? '60 Minutes' Shreds Epstein Suicide Theory

Sun, 01/05/2020 - 21:00

'60 Minutes' has revealed several new data points in the death of wealthy pedophile Jeffrey Epstein which raise more questions than they answer, and suggest that the financier did not kill himself - an opinion the New York City Medical Examiner's office stands "firmly" behind.

The New York City Medical Examiner's Office ruled Epstein's death a suicide by hanging, but a forensic pathologist who observed the four-hour autopsy on behalf of Epstein's brother, Mark, tells 60 Minutes the evidence released so far points more to murder than suicide in his view. Dr. Michael Baden's key reason: the unusual fractures he saw in Epstein's neck. -CBS News

While we've heard all sorts of theories about the improbabilities of the force required by the nearly 6 foot tall Epstein to successfully hang himself while breaking an unusual three bones in his neck usually seen in strangulations, that's nowhere near the most peculiar part of Epstein's demise (notwithstanding the ol' homeless guy switcharoo theory).

For the first time, we get to look at the noose Epstein used to allegedly kill himself. Photos admitted as evidence reveal a clean cloth with no blood, despite Epstein's clearly bloody neck. Moreover, both ends of the noose were hemmed, not cut - while the guard who found Epstein reportedly cut him down.

Also odd is that Epstein's ligature wound, allegedly left by said bloodless noose, is fairly low on his neck.

"It doesn't look like anybody ever took scissors to it," said 60 Minutes' Sharyn Alfonsi. "So there is some question—is that the right noose?"

“I have never seen three fractures like this in a suicidal hanging.”

Dr. Michael Baden lays out the forensic reasons why he’s skeptical of the medical examiner’s ruling that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. **This video contains graphic images.** https://t.co/rZDRtPchod pic.twitter.com/sAkIch7sBF
— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) January 6, 2020


The photos also reveal other potential nooses - none of which are bloodied, as well as orange sheets strewn around the room.

"There were fractures of the left, the right thyroid cartilage and the left hyoid bone," said Baden. "I have never seen three fractures like this in a suicidal hanging."

"Going over a thousand jail hangings, suicides in the New York City state prisons over the past 40-50 years, no one had three fractures," he added.

Other irregularities include Epstein being taken off suicide watch, broken cameras which didn't record the front of his cell during the cruicial period, and of course, the fact that his guards failed to check on perhaps the most high-profile inmate in modern history - and were instead browsing the web and sleeping.




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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Monday, January 6, 2020 10:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


If you want to see somebody who's mind is controlled by the Legacy Media, just look at anybody who thinks this was a suicide.

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Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:40 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I heard news say that some British paper has obtained a photo of Slick Willie on board Epstein's Lolita Express airplane. And they published it.

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Wednesday, January 8, 2020 9:31 PM

JONGSSTRAW


The new pics

Bill Clinton poses with Epstein's 'pimp' Ghislaine Maxwell and a sex slave on board private jet the 'Lolita Express'




The slimy predator serial rapist Bill Clitman will hopefully suffer the same fate as Epstein.


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Wednesday, January 8, 2020 9:55 PM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
The new pics

Bill Clinton poses with Epstein's 'pimp' Ghislaine Maxwell and a sex slave on board private jet the 'Lolita Express'




The slimy predator serial rapist Bill Clitman will hopefully suffer the same fate as Epstein.


Err... What's the saying? Hanging's too good for him? If Bill is guilty of even half of the things he's accused of, I personally would like to see him endlessly perp-walked on TV. Him, and that bitch wife of his

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Happy New Year, WISHY. I edited out your psychopathic screed!

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Thursday, March 19, 2020 1:17 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


This is too funny!

"Ghislaine Maxwell sues Jeffrey Epstein's estate to pay her legal and security fees"
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/19/us/jeffrey-epstein-ghislaine-maxwel
l/index.html


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Thursday, March 19, 2020 1:23 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Uber-Liberal Feminist games journalist Peter Bright convicted of soliciting sex with minors aged 7 to 9 years old.

https://www.dailydot.com/debug/peter-bright-guilty/



OPPS



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Thursday, March 19, 2020 2:18 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Uber-Liberal Feminist games journalist Peter Bright convicted of soliciting sex with minors aged 7 to 9 years old.

OPPS



Whoa - my mind is blown! I thought only Republicans & Fascists were capable of being evil!

Go buy some toilet paper, bruh.

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Thursday, March 19, 2020 2:56 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Seriously though. How messed up do you have to be to put tweets like that out there. He's got about four dozen just like that. I'd hate to read a private journal of a mind that puts that out there for the public to read.



Oh... and he is a Fascist. That's implied when he says he's a Feminist.

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Friday, July 3, 2020 1:33 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well!

This managed to slip all the way to page four before more relevant news showed up:


Quote:

Ghislaine Maxwell Arrested, May Be Sent To Same Jail Where Epstein 'Killed Himself'

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ghislane-maxwell-arrested-new-hamp
shire



Quote:

Ghislaine Maxwell "Knows Everything" And "Will Be Naming Names", Former Epstein Associate Says

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ghislaine-maxwell-knows-everything
-and-will-be-naming-names-former-epstein-associate-says







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Friday, July 3, 2020 6:10 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Hopefully that becomes interesting.

She'll probably just Epstein herself though.

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Saturday, July 4, 2020 4:32 AM

SIGNYM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hopefully that becomes interesting.

She'll probably just Epstein herself though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

It's called Arkanside, because so many who could have testified against the Clintons committed "suicide". And it's not just Vince Foster, but at least a dozen state troopers and other witnesses.



According to the video, a possible reason why Barr fired Berman is bc Berman was sitting on the Maxwell investigation. They note that Berman was fired and Maxwell was arrested shortly afterwards.

I can imagine all sorts of scenarios and deal-making going on in the background, anything from You give us a list of names and locations of all of the videos and we'll go easy on you to You take the fall and leave all of those names out of it and we'll make sure you stay alive.

AFA a Trump is concerned, he needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat if he's going to wing this election. IMHO Trump isn't in trouble for what he's done but for what he HASN'T done: He didn't defend Flynn but threw him under the bus. He let the Mueller investigation and all of that other slander against him go on far too long. He never got the wall built. He didn't crack down on the censorship that the Silicon Valley moguls were applying to conservatives. He hasn't pulled our troops out of the Middle East. He didn't fire the backstabbers and neocons, and he didn't stop listening to Javanka. He didn't take a big bite of the Covid-sandwhich early on and insist that everyone mask up ... and find the sources of masks to make that happen.

I appreciate that he killed the "free trade" agreements and I'm on-board with him making NATO an alliance of equals rather than a gravy-train, and I think illegal immigration needs to be dealt with forcefully. We need to decouple our economy from China's by any means possible, so I'm OK with any steps in that direction. And I'm extremely grateful that he hasn't gotten us into YET ANOTHER WAR. But unless he wins he won't be able to cement those gains and fill some of those mighty big promises that he made four years ago.

Six months ago, I would have thought that BY NOW, with all of the dirt on Biden and the FBI et al there would have been arrests, if not indictments and maybe even trials.

What is he waiting for?

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Saturday, July 4, 2020 4:50 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I just want to add about Maxwell that supposedly she knew * everything *, which either makes her very valuable or extremely ill-fated depending on which way tptb are blowing.

The statement put out by the FIB was that it was 'discretely monitoring' Maxwell for a long time, which, as Signy pointed out, begs the question 'why now'.

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Saturday, July 4, 2020 5:14 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


ETA: "Six months ago, I would have thought that BY NOW, with all of the dirt on Biden and the FBI et al there would have been arrests, if not indictments and maybe even trials."

I've thought the entire Trump presidency has been completely confused. If you want to normalize relations with Russia, why bring in Bolton? (Same question goes to coming to a nuclear agreement with N Korea.) If you want to get US troops out of foreign conflicts, why still have troops in NE Syria impounding Syrian oil fields? And so on.


I too have noticed the complete lack of negative coverage on Biden. That started a while ago when Tara Reid disappeared from the news faster than you can say shazam. I could see it being quickly stifled as topics weren't followed up on, and it was unnaturally, forcibly, discontinued as a news item. Somehow, Biden's magically become cogent, I assume by careful 10-word media selections of quotes and someone writing his script down ahead of time. As for his involvement in Ukraine, it's as if it never happened.

He's being groomed.

WE'RE being groomed.


Anyway, this is pretty far off topic.

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Saturday, July 4, 2020 7:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It may be off topic, but I think it's all connected.

Not that I voted for Trump because of this, but one of the (many) promises that he made was that he would sweep up human traffickers, especially those trafficking in children.


Aside from being a worthwhile goal on its own, those "human traffickers" (including Epstein) made use of children to trap high ranking people into a web of blackmail. There is no way to cement loyalty quite like having a prospective member commit a crime. On tape, even. And despite the fact that people constantly laughed at Pirate News for his obssession with the Bohemian Grove IMHO it was never out of the realm of possibility. I think many of the pro-transnationalists of BOTH parties are deeply corrupt in ways involving more than money.

After all, look at the more lurid ("golden showers") stories against Trump, and that he was being blackmailed into doing Putin's bidding. Who makes up shit like that? It's my observation that peole often accuse others of what they themselves are doing because that's what their minds circle around. I mean, look at WISHY: She acccuses everyone of racism because in her mind it's all about race. SECOND accuses others of blind, stupid partisanshup because he is stupidly and blindly partisan. THUGR accuses others of following authoritarian figures because that's what he himself does.

Funny how it seems to work out that way.

So when people accuse Trump of heinous crimes like "collusion" or "quid pro quo" or of being open to blackmail, well... I think we're looking at plotters, strong-armers,and blacmailers. Isn't that how their world works?

ETA... I'm putting this in the elections 2020 thread.


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Saturday, July 4, 2020 10:16 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Red pills for everyone!



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Tuesday, August 4, 2020 1:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


NOT THAT PRINCE ANDREW HAS ANYTHING TO HIDE ...

Quote:

Aug 2, 2020 at 10:48 pm.
Records Of Prince Andrew’s Location On Night Of Molestation Destroyed By Police

Authorities have destroyed evidence that could have revealed where Prince Andrew was on the night that he is accused of having sex with a teenager.
John Vibes

(TMU) – According to a former member of the Royal guard who worked on Prince Andrew’s security detail, The London Metropolitan Police have destroyed evidence that could have revealed where Prince Andrew was on the night that he is accused of having sex with a teenager that was being trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

The night in question is March 10th, 2001, as well as the morning hours of March 11. Virginia Giuffre, who was known by the name Virginia Roberts at the time, says that she was taken to London by Epstein and Maxwell and was expected to have sex with Prince Andrew.

MORE AT https://themindunleashed.com/2020/08/records-of-prince-andrews-locatio
n-on-night-of-molestation-destroyed-by-police.html


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