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Portland Mayor Ted Wheeleris an idiot. Instead of blaming violence on people committing violence, he blamed Trump.

And for his pains, his apartment attracted several hundred "Antifa" protestors who launched fireworks at his apartment .



@Pigman
Replying to @badassday @tedwheeler
Can't wait for The Guardian to report "Peaceful protesters give the Portland Mayor a free fireworks display".


That's what happens when you pander to a mob.

It's not enough to wring your hands about it, as mayor, you have to DO something.



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Apparently you didn't see my thread.

They did a lot more than set off fireworks.

They set the first floor of the complex on fire and they will be going to prison for attempted murder of every person that lived in that building.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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I guess I missed it. Where was it? I looked for it and couldn't find it.

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SIGNYM: I was wondering if/when they were going to arrest him, or if they were going to be too afraid of the mob and play politics with the investigation.

As I posted, I looked at both videos on detail, tried advancing them frame-by-frame, and listened to the audio (enhanced and otherwise). I didn't see ANY indication that Reinoehl and either Pappas or "Jay" Danielson even exchanged words, much less had any kind of altercation.

I believe that Reinoehl committed "suicide by cop". Reading the tea leaves, I suspect that he knew that between the video, audio, and witness statements his story of "self defense" wouldn't hold up, and he either was so afraid of going to jail that he forced the cops to shoot him, or he was so committed to his cause that he felt he would be more useful as some kind of martyr rather than being convicted of homicide and bringing disgrace to the cause.

It's the only explanation that makes sense to me, but I could be wrong.


REAVERBOT: The cops hunted him down and assassinated him.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OH, BTW REAVERBOT, you might notice that none of your "online friends" are taking your side in this argument, because they can all see that you're fucking nuts.

Except SECONRATE, who steps in now and again to deflect from your failed narratives, because he's fucking nuts too. and he's pushing a failed narrative of his own. But you have BOTH said you hate Americans and are willing to kill us in service to your goals.

I guess that's where you overlap.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No answers, but a few questions...

Do you think that handcuffs automatically make a person a zero threat?

Have you ever been a part of a physical altercation one time in your life?

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
No answers, but a few questions...

Do you think that handcuffs automatically make a person a zero threat?

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Have you ever been a part of a physical altercation one time in your life?

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No answers, but a few questions...

Do you think that handcuffs automatically make a person a zero threat?

Have you ever been a part of a physical altercation one time in your life?

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A handcuffed person is no threat at all, especially when you're shoving their head into the concrete and you're surrounded by your fellow violent thugs.

Keep licking those boots, wet brain Nazi lover.

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No answers, but a few questions...

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No. Mr Prude was spitting, which is also a threat, so they used and anti-spit hood on him. (I remember once when I worked at the county hospital I was coming in the employee entrance while the cops were hustings a lady out in handcuffs who was screaming at them 'I got hepatitis! Don't touch me!' She apparently was cruising the hospital during visiting hours, stealing from patients and visitors and drug carts and so on. They found a whole pack of needles and syringes strapped to her thigh, among other things.)

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Have you ever been a part of a physical altercation one time in your life?

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Oh, absolutely. More than once! The most memorable because it was so unexpected was when a guy attacked me on a quiet empty Sunday-morning street with no one and no houses nearby. So flight was not an option. I found bruises the next day I didn't even know I was getting at the time. But I 'won' by not falling down or giving up my purse, and after punching me multiple times (at the time I thought he was shoving me) he literally ran off screaming in frustration. At the time I sized him up as only a bit bigger and stronger than me, and not carrying a weapon, so I felt reasonably capable.

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"Did you see George Floyd? Dude was a beast."

Put you hands behind your back - lock your fingers. Sit with your butt on the ground and your back against a wall. Now get up.

See the difficulty?

My crippled 90 year old grandma could keep you there, god rest her soul.

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Getting shanked isn't fun. Having a catheter shoved up your nose and another one shoved up your pee-hole while an IV bag tube is shoved into an incision in your belly and then unceremoniously thrown to the floor to check for internal bleeding isn't either. And that's not even to mention how not-fun it is to be getting your ass kicked and hit so hard and with such frequency that the only option left to you is to try to roll yourself into a ball and cover your head, and you leave the scene completely unaware that you were even stabbed until you're driving away and your friend notices your bleeding all over your car seat.

I couldn't imagine what a thankless job it is to have to go into situations that could devolve into something similar all day long. Especially now when everybody in the country has an opinion about how you should be doing it.

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So now you're expert after having been stabbed.

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So now you're expert after having been stabbed.

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I know more than you do.

But then again, that could literally be said about anything. Any topic.

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Put you hands behind your back - lock your fingers. Sit with your butt on the ground and your back against a wall. Now get up.
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Firstly, you shouldn't apply your own physical abilities to everybody else. Even in the moment that you were in peak physical condition of your life, you've never even known what strength like George Floyd possessed actually is.

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Another thing you're failing to consider is that there is more than one civilian involved in this equation in most cases.

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Handcuffed or not, they shouldn't be expected to babysit somebody that they've put against a wall when there are other potential hostiles in the area.

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6ix, there you go again with your delusions of superiority.

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Put you hands behind your back - lock your fingers. Sit with your butt on the ground and your back against a wall. Now get up.
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Firstly, you shouldn't apply your own physical abilities to everybody else. Even in the moment that you were in peak physical condition of your life, you've never even known what strength like George Floyd possessed actually is.

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So ... I take it you haven't tried it. It's not a matter of strength, it's a matter of where your center of gravity lies and your lack of leverage.

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Another thing you're failing to consider is that there is more than one civilian involved in this equation in most cases.

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So the answer is to put 4 cops on one person à la George Floyd, tying EVERYONE up for one person??

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Handcuffed or not, they shouldn't be expected to babysit somebody that they've put against a wall when there are other potential hostiles in the area.

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So the answer is to put 4 cops on one person à la George Floyd, tying EVERYONE up for one person?

OH WAIT! I misunderstood! You think if the cops kill the person in handcuffs it's one less person to deal with! AHA! I got it now!

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6ix, there you go again with your delusions of superiority.

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Not delusions. I'm just better than you in every conceivable measure.

What you don't seem to realize is that is not saying much at all.

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

In other words, you've got nothing cogent to post OT so you're tantrumming.

Well, your end of the discussion seems to have run its course to the usual snark&troll conclusion.

So I'm outa' here.

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6ix, there you go again with your delusions of superiority.

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Not delusions. I'm just better than you in every conceivable measure.

What you don't seem to realize is that is not saying much at all.

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6ix, you've got all symptoms of Grandiose delusions.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grandiose_delusions

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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I just haven't found even one explanation for why cops should be using additional restraining methods once a person is in cuffs (aside from spit hoods). I'm more than willing to think about it and change my mind, but no one has proposed a single reason.

ETA: I'm not trying to make it hard for cops to do their jobs. I posted - more than once - that Rashard Brooks (the guy who took the Taser from a cop and pointed it at them) - was a threat and the cop acted in self defense.

I've been making one very specific and very limited point, which is questioning why additional restraints are used on people who are already in cuffs. In 2 very specific instances - George Floyd and Daniel Prude - the men were ALREADY in cuffs. WHY were they further restrained? Why shouldn't there be a 'bright line' at cuffing suspects, where further retraining measures like prone positioning etc are no longer allowed?

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"Did you see George Floyd? Dude was a beast."

Put you hands behind your back - lock your fingers. Sit with your butt on the ground and your back against a wall. Now get up.

See the difficulty?

My crippled 90 year old grandma could keep you there, god rest her soul.


"My buddy was a lanky little shit back in the day who weighed 120lbs soaking wet and loved telling the story about when he got a DUI and really pissed off the cops by throwing his legs through his arms that were cuffed behind him ..."

DOOD. I ALREADY DISCUSSED THAT! Sheesh. What do you do for reading, nowadays? Your buddy - was certainly not representative of the majority of people for size or flexibility. And once out he was not going to threaten anybody physically, not even me, today, as an arthritic dumpy old lady. But there's a way to cuff little people so that doesn't happen, which is to pass the chain around a cuff to shorten it up (... as my retired cop friend tells me).

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In other words, you've got nothing cogent to post OT so you're tantrumming.

Well, your end of the discussion seems to have run its course to the usual snark&troll conclusion.

So I'm outa' here.

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No. I have done your little experiment. And a long time before you brought it up too. It's easy to do. What? Do you think a person becomes a turtle on its back by some sort of magical pose that the cops can put them in? You're fuckin nuts.

And how were they going to get Floyd to sit in that magical position that doesn't exist in the first place when they couldn't get him to comply with a single order?

Did you even see the video, fuckwit?

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In other words, you've got nothing cogent to post OT so you're tantrumming.

Well, your end of the discussion seems to have run its course to the usual snark&troll conclusion.

So I'm outa' here.

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No. I have done your little experiment. And a long time before you brought it up too. It's easy to do. What? Do you think a person becomes a turtle on its back by some sort of magical pose that the cops can put them in? You're fuckin nuts.

And how were they going to get Floyd to sit in that magical position that doesn't exist in the first place when they couldn't get him to comply with a single order?

Did you even see the video, fuckwit?

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She only watches edited video when she wants to be outraged. And she thinks that your center of gravity in your chest cannot be outmaneuvered by your strength, just because her center of gravity in her hips prevents her minor strength from overpowering.

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And once again, JACKAREN is reduced to making shit up and trolling, since it's got nothing else in its tiny mental arsenal.

I apologize to everyone for starting a thread to keep up with facts about SARS-COV-2, and driving JACKAREN over the edge with too much reality.

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Poof! The Portland Riots Just Stopped. Why?

... after the millions of dollars of destruction, criminality and thuggery it stopped last week. Poof!

Why?

I certainly don’t want to tempt these thugs, but it can’t go without saying that Portland’s 100 plus days of riots appeared to end after Wednesday, September 9th.

https://pjmedia.com/uncategorized/victoria-taft/2020/09/15/poof-the-po
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That's because the state troopers have been arresting them and actually detaining and charging them.

Then their mugshots have been going up on the internet for everyone to see.

Then they've started to get fired for being part of violent riots.



Gee whiz. You mean that people stop behaving like criminals when criminals are actually prosecuted?

Holy shit. Why didn't somebody think about that before?

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Huh. That's funny. They shouldn't have such a problem with Andy Ngo posting their mugshots all over the internet then. I guess they're lying about losing their jobs too.

Did you like that video, faggot? Watching one of your soy swilling friends continually tossed onto the ground like a little bitch?


Seems your little friends in Portland aren't in the mood to burn shit down right now, are they?

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Poof! The Portland Riots Just Stopped. Why?

... after the millions of dollars of destruction, criminality and thuggery it stopped last week. Poof!

Why?

I certainly don’t want to tempt these thugs, but it can’t go without saying that Portland’s 100 plus days of riots appeared to end after Wednesday, September 9th.

https://pjmedia.com/uncategorized/victoria-taft/2020/09/15/poof-the-po
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That's because the state troopers have been arresting them and actually detaining and charging them.

Then their mugshots have been going up on the internet for everyone to see.

Then they've started to get fired for being part of violent riots.


Gee whiz. You mean that people stop behaving like criminals when criminals are actually prosecuted?

Holy shit. Why didn't somebody think about that before?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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OK, at first I wondered if Soros ran out of money? Did polls showed Dems that their tactic wasn't working, so they reversed course?

But I didn't know that anybody was allowed to start arresting criminals in Portland.

HOW COULD THE OREGON GOV ALLOW THE RIOTERS TO BE ARRESTED?!?!

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Poof! The Portland Riots Just Stopped. Why?

... after the millions of dollars of destruction, criminality and thuggery it stopped last week. Poof!

Why?

I certainly don’t want to tempt these thugs, but it can’t go without saying that Portland’s 100 plus days of riots appeared to end after Wednesday, September 9th.

https://pjmedia.com/uncategorized/victoria-taft/2020/09/15/poof-the-po
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That's because the state troopers have been arresting them and actually detaining and charging them.

Then their mugshots have been going up on the internet for everyone to see.

Then they've started to get fired for being part of violent riots.


Gee whiz. You mean that people stop behaving like criminals when criminals are actually prosecuted?

Holy shit. Why didn't somebody think about that before?

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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OK, at first I wondered if Soros ran out of money? Did polls showed Dems that their tactic wasn't working, so they reversed course?

But I didn't know that anybody was allowed to start arresting criminals in Portland.

HOW COULD THE OREGON GOV ALLOW THE RIOTERS TO BE ARRESTED?!?!

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“I believe we need all forms of protest. Protest doesn't work unless it is disruptive and costs the city money. We're coming here, we're making noise in people's neighborhoods, we're disrupting people's businesses, we're calling people out of their houses, we're waking them up at night".

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Ha. 2/3 of Portlanders view Wheeler unfavorably. Whodathunk.

https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09/14/as-election-day-nears-portland-
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
You and your buddies are going to be jobless. Some of them are going to prison for a very, very long time.

Sedition charges aren't anything to play with.

You'd better hope that if you actually are out there starting fires and you get yourself arrested that the 4chan autists don't figure out that you've been making all of the anti-American posts you've been putting here, or you might never see the sun again.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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