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I would not care if Hunter Biden embezzled zillions and had relations with a dead donkey on film.

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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 5:52 PM

WISHIMAY


Do Rethugs REALLY think "The sins of the son" have anything to do with the father??

Someone should tell them this tactic reeks of desperation, even to Chump supporters.

This isn't the 1870's. This isn't India. No one cares about "family names"
anymore.





I also do not care if Biden himself met every single corrupt person his son ever
knew. NOTHING they have ever done would begin to rival the Evil Empire corruptness
of the Chump Disadministration.


Also, If Obama spied on Trump, which I am far from convinced he did....GREAT.
It's clear you can't be dirtier than Chump. The US Government should have investigated his dealings DECADES AGO. Someone dropped that ball HARD.









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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 5:55 PM

REAVERFAN


Facebook and Twitter are choking the spread of a controversial New York Post story about Hunter Biden after questions arise about its veracity and a possible disinformation campaign
https://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-hunter-biden-new-york-post-st
ory-fact-checkers-2020-10



An explosive New York Post story that's sending Trumpworld into a frenzy is riddled with holes and red flags
https://www.businessinsider.com/new-york-post-hunter-joe-biden-giulian
i-red-flags-disinformation-2020-10


This is what is known as "fake news." It's a sleazy attempt to smear Biden because they know they're losing, and can't win without cheating.

Trumptards, while stupid and violent, are also completely devoid of any ethics or morals.










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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 7:25 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It should bother you when the swiss cheese brained candidate you idiots nominated was extorting the Ukraine government to protect his corrupt son. But only if you're not a partisan hack that has no moral compass and who has let the current sitting president haunt every waking thought you've had in your smoothbrain for 4 straight years.


Fuck your hypocrisy.

You're all beyond gross.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 7:36 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It should bother you when the swiss cheese brained candidate you idiots nominated was extorting the Ukraine government to protect his corrupt son. But only if you're not a partisan hack that has no moral compass and who has let the current sitting president haunt every waking thought you've had in your smoothbrain for 4 straight years.


Fuck your hypocrisy.

You're all beyond gross.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

More false, already debunked bullshit from the wet brain.

But facts aren't really his thing. He goes with his feelings.



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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 7:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Not false. Not debunked.

I can't wait until Trump's reelection and your subsequent meltdown.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 7:45 PM

REAVERFAN


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-continues-push-debunked-ukraine-
conspiracy-theory/story?id=67228100

https://www.businessinsider.com/kurt-volker-shuts-down-gop-conspiracie
s-joe-biden-ukraine-2019-11

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/29/business/media/fact-check-biden-ukr
aine-burisma-china-hunter.html

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/world/2019/10/10/trumps-biden-u
kraine-natural-gas-conspiracy-theory-false-but-alive/3851728002
/
https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-invention-of-the-conspira
cy-theory-on-biden-and-ukraine

https://theintercept.com/2019/05/10/rumors-joe-biden-scandal-ukraine-a
bsolute-nonsense-reformer-says
/
https://www.euronews.com/2019/09/25/there-s-no-evidence-trump-s-biden-
ukraine-accusations-what-n1057851


Widely reported, but again, facts don't matter to wet brain trolls.



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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 8:55 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
.. your hypocrisy.




It's funny HE uses that word.

It's not like he cares what the Chump family of knuckle-draggers, nepotists, and cons has done, either.



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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 8:58 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
.. bullshit from the wet brain.



Don't give him credit by implying there's a brain in there, however damaged.


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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 9:57 PM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:


Also, If Obama spied on Trump, which I am far from convinced he did....GREAT.
It's clear you can't be dirtier than Chump. The US Government should have investigated his dealings DECADES AGO. Someone dropped that ball HARD.



Looks like Bill Barr couldn't even FAKE coming up with something on Obama and Hillary!

I look forward to his tell-all book!


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8840861/Donald-Trump-hints-FI
RING-Bill-Barr-probes-Russiagate-fall-flat-election.html







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Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:20 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Good.

At least you'll have something to look forward too after Trump is reelected.

I'm happy for you.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Thursday, October 15, 2020 10:55 AM

REAVERFAN


U.S. intelligence anticipated Russia would dump hacked and forged Burisma emails targeting Biden as an 'October surprise,' report says. // Rudy Giuliani is an active tool of hostile anti-American disinformation.
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-intelligence-analysts-hacked-burism
a-emails-russia-october-surprise-2020-10?utm_source=reddit.com


US intelligence analysts suspected at least as far back as last month that a mixture of hacked and forged emails from the Ukrainian company Burisma Holdings might be dumped online as an "October surprise," The New York Times reported Wednesday.
Russian military-intelligence hackers successfully breached Burisma's servers in January, The Times reported earlier this year.
Wednesday's report said analysts contacted people with knowledge of the hack because they were concerned "the Burisma material would be leaked alongside forged materials in an attempt to hurt" the 2020 Democratic presidential nominee, Joe Biden.
Earlier Wednesday, the New York Post published an article purporting to feature a "smoking-gun email" between a Burisma executive and Biden's son Hunter.
As Business Insider reported, the authenticity of the Post article is highly questionable, and its sourcing raises numerous red flags.
---

But as we all know, trumptards are as stupid as they are violent. They'll believe any lie.




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Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:52 AM

REAVERFAN


Rudy Giuliani Interrupted His Effort to Smear Joe Biden With An Anti-Semitic Conspiracy Theory About George Soros
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/10/rudy-giuliani-george-soro
s-joe-biden
/

He's lost it.



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Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:47 PM

REAVERFAN


Trump’s fake new Biden scandal has a deeper purpose. Bannon revealed it.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/



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Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:10 PM

OLDGUY

What Would Mal do ?


wow...just...wow..to quote a character just as fictional as your thoughts.

"Amazing...every word of what you just said was wrong..." Luke Skywalker.

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Thursday, October 15, 2020 2:35 PM

REAVERFAN

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Thursday, October 15, 2020 10:55 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Move Over, Hunter Biden. Meet Eric Branstad, the China Ambassador’s Son Who Got Rich in Trump’s Swamp.

https://theintercept.com/2020/10/15/eric-branstad-trump-china-ambassad
or
/

As a reminder that Trump's crooks start being crooks while young:

Between 1983 and 1999, Terry Branstad served an unprecedented four consecutive terms as governor, making him the state’s longest serving chief executive. In 2010, after a stint as president of Des Moines University, Terry Branstad ran for governor again and won, serving until 2017, when he became ambassador to China. “He was jokingly referred to as ‘governor for life’ until he was appointed by Trump,” said Jeff Link, an Iowa Democratic strategist.

As the eldest of Terry Branstad’s three children, Eric Branstad grew up immersed in the state’s insular political world. In his teenage years, he was often the one making the headlines. In 1991, at the age of 16, he drove a van originally purchased by his father’s campaign committee across a median into a head-on collision that killed two people. The crash sparked a political scandal and a highly public lawsuit. According to the Des Moines Register, Eric Branstad ended up paying only $34.50 in fines and court costs for improper passing, a penalty that many Iowans saw as reflecting his father’s influence.

The fatal crash was followed by other violations — including public intoxication, using a fake ID to buy beer, and illegal possession of alcohol — before Eric Branstad was sent off to a military academy in Missouri. “A lot of kids have problems,” Terry Branstad said at a press conference in 1995. “This kid has had a lot of problems.”



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:03 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Move Over, Hunter Biden. Meet Eric Branstad, the China Ambassador’s Son Who Got Rich in Trump’s Swamp.

https://theintercept.com/2020/10/15/eric-branstad-trump-china-ambassad
or
/

As a reminder that Trump's crooks start being crooks while young:

Between 1983 and 1999, Terry Branstad served an unprecedented four consecutive terms as governor, making him the state’s longest serving chief executive. In 2010, after a stint as president of Des Moines University, Terry Branstad ran for governor again and won, serving until 2017, when he became ambassador to China. “He was jokingly referred to as ‘governor for life’ until he was appointed by Trump,” said Jeff Link, an Iowa Democratic strategist.

As the eldest of Terry Branstad’s three children, Eric Branstad grew up immersed in the state’s insular political world. In his teenage years, he was often the one making the headlines. In 1991, at the age of 16, he drove a van originally purchased by his father’s campaign committee across a median into a head-on collision that killed two people. The crash sparked a political scandal and a highly public lawsuit. According to the Des Moines Register, Eric Branstad ended up paying only $34.50 in fines and court costs for improper passing, a penalty that many Iowans saw as reflecting his father’s influence.

The fatal crash was followed by other violations — including public intoxication, using a fake ID to buy beer, and illegal possession of alcohol — before Eric Branstad was sent off to a military academy in Missouri. “A lot of kids have problems,” Terry Branstad said at a press conference in 1995. “This kid has had a lot of problems.”



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Republicans always, only, fail upward.

Loyalty to the gang is the only standard with fascists.

Doesn't matter if you're a pervy politician or a "scientist" with fake science. If you stick to the party line, you move up.

Look at Limbaugh, or Roy Moore. Fascists circle the wagons to defend their thugs.

Demonstrably not the case with Dems.





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Friday, October 16, 2020 12:22 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Rudy Giuliani was strolling around in Wilmington one day when he noticed a hard drive lying on the sidewalk. When he hooked it up, it turned out to be full of incriminating evidence about Hunter Biden’s lobbying for a Ukrainian energy company, along with some risque photos. What luck! So he gave it to the FBI and turned over a copy to his pals at the New York Post, who put it all on their front page.

OK, that’s not exactly how it happened. But it might as well be, since the actual story is hardly any more believable. More at www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2020/10/is-rudy-giuliani-a-russian-pawn/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Friday, October 16, 2020 1:08 PM

REAVERFAN


Anatomy Of A Smear: Questions Surrounding The New York Post’s Hunter Biden Story
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/questions-new-york-biden-hunter-biden-t
rump-campaign_n_5f88de1cc5b66ee9a5ee4aad






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Friday, October 16, 2020 2:58 PM

REAVERFAN


And now, the REAL news:

October Surprise! US psychiatrists convince the media to reveal the extent of Trump’s mental instability
https://www.nationofchange.org/2020/10/16/october-surprise-us-psychiat
rists-convince-the-media-to-reveal-the-extent-of-trumps-mental-instability
/

Bandy Lee, Clinical Professor in law and psychiatry at Yale School of Medicine joined with 26 other top-level psychiatrists and mental health experts to present their professional findings relative to Mr. Trump’s very serious mental condition, that they indicated makes him unfit to be president.



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Friday, October 16, 2020 3:55 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by OLDGUY:
wow...just...wow..to quote a character just as fictional as your thoughts.

"Amazing...every word of what you just said was wrong..." Luke Skywalker.

Hey there, welcome back.

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Friday, October 16, 2020 7:35 PM

REAVERFAN


U.S. intelligence agencies warned the White House – twice – last year that Rudy Giuliani was the target of a Russian influence operation. During a December 2019 trip to Ukraine to gather information he thought would expose corrupt acts by Hunter Biden, Giuliani was interacting with people tied to Russian intelligence.

Earlier in 2019, U.S. intelligence also warned in written materials sent to the White House that Giuliani was communicating with Russian assets. Giuliani was seeking information similar to what is allegedly contained in emails and other correspondence published this week by the New York Post, which the paper said came from Hunter Biden’s laptop and provided to Giuliani and Stephen Bannon.

National security adviser Robert O’Brien briefed Trump in a private conversation at the time that any information Giuliani brought back from Ukraine should be considered contaminated by Russia. Trump reportedly “shrugged his shoulders” at O’Brien, dismissed concern, and said: “That’s Rudy.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/giuliani-biden-ukrain
e-russian-disinformation/2020/10/15/43158900-0ef5-11eb-b1e8-16b59b92b36d_story.html



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Friday, October 16, 2020 9:38 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
And now, the REAL news:

October Surprise! US psychiatrists convince the media to reveal the extent of Trump’s mental instability
https://www.nationofchange.org/2020/10/16/october-surprise-us-psychiat
rists-convince-the-media-to-reveal-the-extent-of-trumps-mental-instability
/

Bandy Lee, Clinical Professor in law and psychiatry at Yale School of Medicine joined with 26 other top-level psychiatrists and mental health experts to present their professional findings relative to Mr. Trump’s very serious mental condition, that they indicated makes him unfit to be president.

There have been 10 more co-authors added to book in 2019 in order to cover new aspects of Trump's administration. One new aspect from the introduction to the 2019 edition:

Trump is also unleashing a new nuclear arms race that could end up in global nuclear annihilation. Any knowledgeable student of modern history knows of the numerous close calls, both deliberate and accidental, that have brought the world repeatedly to the brink of nuclear war. The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists has now advanced the Doomsday Clock to two minutes to midnight, the direst proximity to doomsday since 1953, when the thermonuclear arms race between the United States and the Soviet Union began.

Trump’s recent call to withdraw from the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Force Treaty with Russia, against the counsel of foreign policy experts in the United States and Europe, not to mention Russia (including our age’s preeminent peacemaker, Mikhail Gorbachev), is yet another marker of rising dangers. The essay by James R. Merikangas and Dr. Tarannum M. Lateef on the nuclear threat is powerful, poignant, and terrifying. As the authors put it: “Those who pretend that we are in the realm of politics when we are really in the realm of psychopathology make the situation even more dangerous, because they will not be prepared while the future of the planet and the human race are at stake.”

You can download either the first or second edition of the book for free at https://libgen.unblockit.lat/search.php?req=Bandy+Lee

or second edition at http://library.lol/main/AA160C9A9C913D1B3A2B035C57389C4A

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 12:30 AM

WISHIMAY


I had an old asshole Trump voter (judging by the bumper sticker) pull out in front of me, and continued to drive 45 in a 55 this evening..

All I could think was a great bumper sticker of my own...




Don't drive like a Trump voter:
A little too slow and a whole lot of oblivious





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Saturday, October 17, 2020 1:42 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Thanks for bringing up donkey-fucking, WISHY. The thread would have been boring without it!

Apparently, the Bidens only saw China as a means to line their pockets. USA interests were nowhere in mind


Quote:

Hunter Biden Business Associate Flips From Prison, Releases Emails Detailing China Influence-Peddling Operation

Emails from a former business associate of Hunter Biden's inner-circle who's serving time in prison for a 2016 investment scheme reveal that Hunter and his colleagues used their access to the Obama administration to peddle influence to potential Chinese clients and investors - including securing a private, off-the-books meeting with the former Vice President.


The emails, given to investigative journalist Peter Schweizer by former Biden associate Bevan Cooney and published by Breitbart also reveal that in 2011, the younger Biden and his business associates discussed strengthening relations with "China Inc." as part of a "new push on soft diplomacy for the Chinese."

As Breitbart notes, these emails are completely unconnected to the Hunter Biden emails released by the New York Post.

Cooney believes he was the "fall guy" for an investment scheme in which Hunter and business associate Devon Archer avoided responsibility. He reached out to Schweizer after the journalist published Secret Empires in 2018. Archer was initially spared jail and handed a second trial, however a federal appeals court reinstated Archer's fraud conviction in the case last week.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-biden-business-associate-fl
ips-prison-releases-emails-detailing-china-influence


But that's what I've been saying all long: The Clintons and the Bidens saw their office as a means to make money. They were/are willing to sell the USA downriver for a few ... well, a lot of!... shekels.


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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:05 AM

WISHIMAY


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


But that's what I've been saying all long: The Clintons and the Bidens saw their office as a means to make money. They were/are willing to sell the USA downriver for a few ... well, a lot of!... shekels.





Are you just feigning upset over nothing or are you sad that they didn't flog the office HALF AS HARD AS CHUMP??

If Rethugs don't give a shit about him doing it, what makes you think WE fucking care??







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Saturday, October 17, 2020 6:14 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:


But that's what I've been saying all long: The Clintons and the Bidens saw their office as a means to make money. They were/are willing to sell the USA downriver for a few ... well, a lot of!... shekels.





Are you just feigning upset over nothing or are you sad that they didn't flog the office HALF AS HARD AS CHUMP??

If Rethugs don't give a shit about him doing, what makes you think WE fucking care??







https://refusefascism.org/

Show me where Trump used his office to extort money from foreign governments for his own persoanl wealth.

-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 7:47 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Show me where Trump used his office to extort money from foreign governments for his own persoanl wealth.

Trump has loans from foreign governments. How much does he owe and to who? Nobody but his accountants know because Trump won't cooperate and neither will the foreigners who are bribing him.

Signym, don't pretend this okay because there has never been a President before Trump running a private corporation involved in international financial chicanery.

Just like his non-payment of federal and state income taxes, Trump hasn't gone to jail because prosecutors need the cooperation of Trump's accountants before they can get him into court. The accountants aren't helpful, per Trump's orders. There is nothing other than a bad conscience preventing Trump from giving those orders and proving to America he is not being bribed and he is not cheating on his taxes:

Donald Trump Has At Least $1 Billion In Debt, More Than Twice The Amount He Suggested
https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/16/donald-trump-has-
at-least-1-billion-in-debt-more-than-twice-the-amount-he-suggested/#201e58484330


No aspect of Donald Trump’s business has been the subject of more speculation than his debt load. Lots of people believe the president owes $400 million, especially after Trump seemed to agree with that figure on national television Thursday night. In reality, however, he owes more than $1 billion.

The loans are spread out over more than a dozen different assets — hotels, buildings, mansions and golf courses. Most are listed on the financial disclosure report Trump files annually with the federal government. Two, which add up to an estimated $447 million, are not.

Some people also like to suggest that Deutsche Bank is the only institution willing to lend to Trump. That’s not true. The president’s creditors include at least six other institutions, two of which began or reworked deals while the president was in office.

One reason for all the confusion: Trump’s loans are not fully transparent. It’s still unclear to whom he owes an estimated $162 million against his skyscraper in San Francisco, for example. The loan against 1290 Avenue of the Americas is also something of a mystery. And it’s difficult to pin down the amount the president owes on a loan tied to his Bedford, New York, mansion. When asked about all of this, the Trump Organization did not respond.

Here’s what we know — and don’t know — about the president’s debt.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/16/donald-trump-has-
at-least-1-billion-in-debt-more-than-twice-the-amount-he-suggested/#201e58484330



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 9:05 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Thanks for bringing up donkey-fucking, WISHY. The thread would have been boring without it!

Apparently, the Bidens only saw China as a means to line their pockets. USA interests were nowhere in mind


Quote:

Hunter Biden Business Associate Flips From Prison, Releases Emails Detailing China Influence-Peddling Operation

Emails from a former business associate of Hunter Biden's inner-circle who's serving time in prison for a 2016 investment scheme reveal that Hunter and his colleagues used their access to the Obama administration to peddle influence to potential Chinese clients and investors - including securing a private, off-the-books meeting with the former Vice President.


The emails, given to investigative journalist Peter Schweizer by former Biden associate Bevan Cooney and published by Breitbart also reveal that in 2011, the younger Biden and his business associates discussed strengthening relations with "China Inc." as part of a "new push on soft diplomacy for the Chinese."

As Breitbart notes, these emails are completely unconnected to the Hunter Biden emails released by the New York Post.

Cooney believes he was the "fall guy" for an investment scheme in which Hunter and business associate Devon Archer avoided responsibility. He reached out to Schweizer after the journalist published Secret Empires in 2018. Archer was initially spared jail and handed a second trial, however a federal appeals court reinstated Archer's fraud conviction in the case last week.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-biden-business-associate-fl
ips-prison-releases-emails-detailing-china-influence


But that's what I've been saying all long: The Clintons and the Bidens saw their office as a means to make money. They were/are willing to sell the USA downriver for a few ... well, a lot of!... shekels.


-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

This is why everyone knows you're a Russian troll. You keep spewing debunked bullshit even after it gets debunked right in front of you.

I'm surprised you haven't been fired yet for gross incompetence.



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Saturday, October 17, 2020 9:54 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:

This is why everyone knows you're a Russian troll. You keep spewing debunked bullshit even after it gets debunked right in front of you.

I'm surprised you haven't been fired yet for gross incompetence.

Signym and Trump know this and practice it: “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” - adolf hitler

Trump Is Lying More Than Ever: Just Look At The Data
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-
more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 11:27 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNYM:
Thanks for bringing up donkey-fucking, WISHY. The thread would have been boring without it!
Apparently, the Bidens only saw China as a means to line their pockets. USA interests were nowhere in mind


Quote:

Hunter Biden Business Associate Flips From Prison, Releases Emails Detailing China Influence-Peddling Operation

Emails from a former business associate of Hunter Biden's inner-circle who's serving time in prison for a 2016 investment scheme reveal that Hunter and his colleagues used their access to the Obama administration to peddle influence to potential Chinese clients and investors - including securing a private, off-the-books meeting with the former Vice President.


The emails, given to investigative journalist Peter Schweizer by former Biden associate Bevan Cooney and published by Breitbart also reveal that in 2011, the younger Biden and his business associates discussed strengthening relations with "China Inc." as part of a "new push on soft diplomacy for the Chinese."

As Breitbart notes, these emails are completely unconnected to the Hunter Biden emails released by the New York Post.

Cooney believes he was the "fall guy" for an investment scheme in which Hunter and business associate Devon Archer avoided responsibility. He reached out to Schweizer after the journalist published Secret Empires in 2018. Archer was initially spared jail and handed a second trial, however a federal appeals court reinstated Archer's fraud conviction in the case last week.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/hunter-biden-business-associate-fl
ips-prison-releases-emails-detailing-china-influence


But that's what I've been saying all long: The Clintons and the Bidens saw their office as a means to make money. They were/are willing to sell the USA downriver for a few ... well, a lot of!... shekels.
#WEARAMASK

REABERBOT: This is why everyone knows you're a Russian troll. You keep spewing debunked bullshit even after it gets debunked right in front of you.

Every release from HUNTER BIDEN'S computer (which was sent in for repair, which is how we got this info) and every squeal from his former business partners co-conspirators proves the point. The fact that your ONLY response is to call me a "Russian troll" proves that you don't have any defense.

I'm surprised you haven't been fired yet for gross incompetence.


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Saturday, October 17, 2020 11:30 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SECONDRATE: Signym and Trump know this and practice it: “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” - adolf hitler


Wow, let's count up the lies YOU have told! You want to talk about liars? Look in the mirror, son.



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Saturday, October 17, 2020 11:39 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Imagine If MSM Consistently Applied The Evidentiary Standards It’s Applying To Hunter Biden’s Emails


https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/10/15/imagine-if-msm-consistently-ap
plied-the-evidentiary-standards-its-applying-to-hunter-bidens-emails
/

Yep, imagine. 85% of what they published about Trump were lies, and it would all never have been.

Why didn't they stick with the truth, instead of making shit up? That would have been damning enough.

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 3:00 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Imagine If MSM Consistently Applied The Evidentiary Standards It’s Applying To Hunter Biden’s Emails


https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/10/15/imagine-if-msm-consistently-ap
plied-the-evidentiary-standards-its-applying-to-hunter-bidens-emails
/

Yep, imagine. 85% of what they published about Trump were lies, and it would all never have been.

Why didn't they stick with the truth, instead of making shit up? That would have been damning enough.

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#WEARAMASK

Is your Russian ass still sore from the kicking it got for posting debunked bullshit?




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Saturday, October 17, 2020 3:02 PM

REAVERFAN


Oh, look. Here's a REAL story about a REAL crook named Hunter.

Ex-SoCal Rep. Duncan Hunter to serve 11-month sentence at West Texas prison camp
https://ktla.com/news/local-news/ex-socal-rep-duncan-hunter-to-serve-1
1-month-sentence-at-west-texas-prison-camp
/



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Saturday, October 17, 2020 3:22 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Every release from HUNTER BIDEN'S computer (which was sent in for repair, which is how we got this info) and every squeal from his former business partners co-conspirators proves the point. The fact that your ONLY response is to call me a "Russian troll" proves that you don't have any defense.

I'm surprised you haven't been fired yet for gross incompetence.

John Paul Mac Isaac said he 'can't be 100% sure' it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the computer for repair. Repeat: The man, John Paul Mac Isaac, said he has a condition that affects his vision and “can’t be 100% sure” it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the computer for repair.

Isaac’s claim that the laptop in question belonged to Hunter Biden has yet to be substantiated.
www.foxnews.com/politics/hunter-biden-emails-computer-repair-store-own
er-john-paul-mac-isaac


The FBI is investigating a possible Russian influence operation to spread disinformation, according to a person familiar with the matter. The unlikely account of how the emails surfaced raised immediate questions about Russian involvement.
www.delawareonline.com/story/news/politics/2020/10/16/fbi-investigatin
g-hunter-biden-emails-russia-disinformation/3683566001
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 3:42 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Show me where Trump used his office to extort money from foreign governments for his own persoanl wealth.



Why did you add the word “extort?”

He definitely tried to extort Ukraine for personal political gain, but in terms of filling his pants with foreign money he hardly has to extort anyone. He didn’t extort anyone when secret service went out their way to stay at his hotels, he just abused the office. You’d think a tax paying American such as yourself would be a bit upset by that. No? Maybe one of these other 1,999 abuses?
A small sample:
https://www.citizensforethics.org/reports-investigations/crew-reports/
trumps-2000-conflicts-of-interest-and-counting
/

Trump conflicts of interest by the numbers
CREW has now tallied 2,310 conflicts resulting from President Trump’s decision to retain his business interests. Here are some of the most startling numbers from the data:

The president has visited his properties 362 times at taxpayer expense during his administration, sometimes visiting more than one of them in a single day. In 2019 alone, he has visited his properties 81 times, helping to further establish them as centers of political power. The number of days where President Trump has spent time at a Trump-branded property account for almost a third of the days he’s been president.
One-hundred eleven officials from 65 foreign governments, including 57 foreign countries, have made 137 visits to a Trump property, raising the question of how much foreign money has been spent at Trump’s properties.
Additionally, CREW has recorded 630 visits to Trump properties from at least 250 Trump administration officials. This includes high-level White House staff, members of Trump’s cabinet, and individual agency employees. So far this year, CREW has recorded 198 visits by White House officials. Ivanka Trump—who has an ownership interest in the Trump hotel in D.C.—and her husband Jared Kushner, both senior White House advisors, are the most frequent executive branch officials to visit Trump properties, other than the president himself. Jared has made 28 known visits, while Ivanka has made 23.
Members of Congress have flocked to President Trump’s properties, despite their constitutional oversight responsibility to provide a check on the executive branch as it relates to President Trump’s conflicts of interest. Throughout his two and a half years as president, 90 members of Congress have made 188 visits to a Trump property.
Forty-seven state officials, including 20 Republican governors, have made 64 visits to Trump properties, sometimes resulting in state taxpayer funds being spent there.
President Trump has used the presidency to provide free publicity for his properties, which he still profits from as president. Over the course of his presidency, Trump has tweeted about or mentioned one of his properties on 159 occasions, and White House officials have followed suit: Members of Trump’s White House have mentioned a Trump property 65 times, sometimes in the course of their official duties.
Political groups have hosted 63 events at Trump properties since President Trump took office, selling wealthy donors access to the administration while also enriching the president. Seventeen of these have been for Trump-linked groups, and another six have been hosted by groups linked to Vice President Mike Pence. Trump Victory, the joint fundraising arm of Trump’s 2020 election committee and the RNC, has hosted six events at Trump properties just this year, four of which were attended by the President himself. In all, the RNC and other Republican Party groups have had 28 events at Trump properties.

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 4:09 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

CC: He definitely tried to extort Ukraine for personal political gain,
He did? When was that?

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 4:12 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Imagine If MSM Consistently Applied The Evidentiary Standards It’s Applying To Hunter Biden’s Emails


https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2020/10/15/imagine-if-msm-consistently-ap
plied-the-evidentiary-standards-its-applying-to-hunter-bidens-emails
/

Yep, imagine. 85% of what they published about Trump were lies, and it would all never have been.

Why didn't they stick with the truth, instead of making shit up? That would have been damning enough.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

#WEARAMASK

Is your Russian ass still sore from the kicking it got for posting debunked bullshit?




More made-up shit from our local lunatic.

Yanno, people get mighty testy around election time. I call it "silly season". They think that going ballistic online will somehow affect the election outcome.

Don't go off a cliff, REAVERBOT.

Oh, wait ... too late. You already have.

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:43 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

More made-up shit from our local lunatic.

Yanno, people get mighty testy around election time. I call it "silly season". They think that going ballistic online will somehow affect the election outcome.

Don't go off a cliff, REAVERBOT.

Oh, wait ... too late. You already have.


Butthurt noted.

Your burning, unending shame at having had your ass kicked so often and so perfectly by me in this thread, and all the others, has you lying like the little Russian bitch you are.

Accept that you're just not very bright, and were defeated by your moral and intellectual better.





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Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:46 PM

REAVERFAN


US spies say the Hunter Biden email controversy shows how 'exploitable' and 'grotesquely vulnerable' Trump and Giuliani are to Russian intelligence
https://www.businessinsider.com/spies-hunter-biden-emails-trump-giulia
ni-vulnerable-russian-intelligence-2020-10?utm_source=reddit.com


Former spooks told Business Insider that Rudy Giuliani's role in a widely discredited New York Post story and President Donald Trump's willingness to seize on it highlights how vulnerable they are to being duped by Russian intelligence.

Giuliani's access to Trump, the two men's personality traits, their eagerness to obtain dirt on the Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, and unwillingness to acknowledge Russian interference makes them a goldmine for foreign intelligence services, former spies said.

They are "grotesquely vulnerable, exploitable targets" and "any foreign intelligence service would be derelict if they did not try to exploit this," said a former CIA covert operative.

Steve Hall, the CIA's former chief of Russia operations, also said Trump and Giuliani's tendency to traffic in conspiracies and the rise of misinformation in right-wing media mean "we're doing a lot of [Russia's] work for them."
---
Treason is punishable by death. I'd pay to watch these two traitors hang.



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Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:47 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNY: Show me where Trump used his office to extort money from foreign governments for his own personal wealth.

CC:
Why did you add the word “extort?”

I used the word "extort" because that's what Joe Biden bragged about doing. Bragged. On video. Not made-up shit. Unlike the recorded phone call where Trump did no such thing.

Want me to play that again?








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Saturday, October 17, 2020 6:22 PM

REAVERFAN




More idiocy from the shitty Russian troll.

Does a C-SPAN Video Show Joe Biden ‘Confessing to Bribery’?
The U.S. may have pushed for the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor, but not for the reasons implied in a video clip.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/c-span-video-joe-biden-ukraine/

Trump Twists Facts on Biden and Ukraine
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/09/trump-twists-facts-on-biden-and-ukra
ine
/

What Joe Biden Actually Did in Ukraine
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/10/us/politics/joe-biden-ukraine.html

What Actually Happened Between Joe Biden and Ukraine, Explained
Hint: It’s not what President Trump wants the media to believe
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/biden-ukraine-pros
ecutor-trump-tweet-888662
/

Damn, your ass is hurting from all the kicking I gave it!

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 6:28 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

Full Story Behind Hunter's Laptop Debunks Latest Russia Conspiracy Theory

As the Hunter Biden laptop scandal threatens to throw the 2020 election into chaos with what appears to be solid, undisputed evidence of high-level corruption by former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter, the same crowd which peddled the Trump-Russia hoax is now suggesting that Russia is behind it all.

To wit, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, who swore on National television that he had evidence Trump was colluding with Russia - now says that President Trump is handing the Kremlin a "propaganda coup from Vladimir Putin."

Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT) has gone full tin-foil, suggesting that Giuliani was a 'key target' of 'Kremlin constructed anti-Biden propaganda.'

Headlines in major publications are perhaps even more conspiratorial:

And of course, propagandists are doing their thing...

Yet, if one looks at the actual facts of the case - in particular, that Hunter Biden appears to have dropped his own laptops off at a computer repair shop, signed a service ticket, and the shop owner approached the FBI first and Rudy Giuliani last after Biden failed to pick them up, the left's latest Russia conspiracy theory is quickly debunked.


https://www.zerohedge.com/political/full-story-behind-hunters-laptops-
debunks-latest-russia-conspiracy-theory





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Saturday, October 17, 2020 6:29 PM

REAVERFAN


More debunked bullshit, repeated by the flailing, butthurt Russian troll, then reported by the same propaganda source.

You just keep losing, son!



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Saturday, October 17, 2020 6:33 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


^ Hasn't won a single argument since he created this sockpuppet.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 7:45 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
^ Hasn't won a single argument since he created this sockpuppet.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

True. Sig is a pathetic troll, and always loses to me, just like you do.





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Saturday, October 17, 2020 7:46 PM

REAVERFAN


Leaked alleged texts between Joe Biden and son Hunter backfire on GOP
https://www.dailydot.com/debug/biden-leaked-texts/





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Saturday, October 17, 2020 8:26 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

CC: He definitely tried to extort Ukraine for personal political gain,
He did? When was that?



Nice try. You said he didn’t use the office for personal gain. I gave you hundreds of ways your statement was full of shit. How can you be so wrong so often?

Signym running interference for an impeached lying piece of sh*t - a perfect fit.

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Saturday, October 17, 2020 9:28 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
^ Hasn't won a single argument since he created this sockpuppet.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

True. Sig is a pathetic troll, and always loses to me, just like you do.








You are delusional.

Only a few weeks until I get to shove all of those delusions up your ass so you can bounce on them.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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