NOTICE OF REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE by embers

LOL, ROTF!!!

Best read I've had in some time. Though has a lot of truth in it too.

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Originally posted by DarkJester:

"What about pointed sticks?"

Or a board with nail in it?

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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

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Thursday, December 23, 2004 9:43 PM

Sorry, but most of our bad reality TV shows are copies of BBC shows. You guys are the reason good shows like Firefly, Angel, and Wonderfalls ended up cancelled and replaced with Nanny 911!

You are the weakest link! Goodbye!

Point 3 Quote: "You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents." Sorry, I've never confused Mel Gibson's accent for John Cleese's!

Point 4 Quote: "Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys." HELLO! You ever watch an episode of Buffy or Angel? Wesley and Giles ARE the good guys!

Point 6 Quote: "The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football." Ever hear of NFL Europe? More American's actually play Soccer than British do! It's the number one amatuer and pro/am sport in the country!!! Don't even mess with Baseball! Outside of Europe, it's the fastest growing sport in the world. In Asia, and Central and South American countries, it's practically a national sport. Baseball is FAR better than Rounders or Cricket!

Point 7 Quote: "You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns." Good luck on that one! You could try to collect the millions of unregistered guns from those of us who legally own them, but my bet is, it will get very bloody! Check your history books about 200 years back for reference, and LEARN from it!

Point 9 Quote: "All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good." That's funny, considering that Ford now owns your best auto manufacturers, IE; Jaguar, Aston Martin, and Rover. The German's own the rest, Bentley (VW), Mini and Rolls Royce (BMW). It's also interesting that JD Power now scores Cadillac above Audi, BMW, and Mercedes in quality and owner satisfaction. Motor Trend's top 3 finalists in this year's Car Of The Year, were all American cars (the Corvette, the new Mustang GT, and Chrysler's Hemi powered 300C), none of the European entries made it into the top 5!

Point 10 Quote: "You will learn to make real chips." We do know how to make chips! We put them in a bag and call them Ruffles!

Point 11 Quote: "As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself." That's okay, no one in Boston drinks tea. Coffee is the preferred beverage, which is why there's a Starbucks on every freakin' corner!

Point 14 Quote: "You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists." You may call them something else, but you have them too (except the guns, which is why the whole REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE stuff will never happen anyway!).

Point 15 Quote: "Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy." We could tell you, but then we'd just have to kill you too! We'll give you a hint; It's all Marilyn's fault!

Point 16 Quote: "Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776)." I think were even, considering we saved your collective asses in WWII. In fact, you owe us, and we expect full payment at the end of the this fiscal year!

Last time I checked, we still have all of ther best military toys (hell, it takes a fleet of your tiny little aircraft carriers, to do what one of our super carriers can do). So good luck with the whole REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE thing. BTW: That flock of birds you just picked up on radar off the coast, is actually a squadron of F-22 Raptors heading for London!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Friday, December 24, 2004 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 3 Quote: "You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents." Sorry, I've never confused Mel Gibson's accent for John Cleese's!

1) < sarcasm >And clearly because you can make the distinction, others won't as well < /sarcasm >
See comment 2.

Quote:
Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 4 Quote: "Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys." HELLO! You ever watch an episode of Buffy or Angel? Wesley and Giles ARE the good guys!

2) I'm not sure that you are aware of the quote "There is an exception to every rule." ie You can't quote one case as a counter example and expect the rule to go away. This isn't math, it's society.

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 6 Quote: "The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football." Ever hear of NFL Europe? More American's actually play Soccer than British do! It's the number one amatuer and pro/am sport in the country!!! Don't even mess with Baseball! Outside of Europe, it's the fastest growing sport in the world. In Asia, and Central and South American countries, it's practically a national sport. Baseball is FAR better than Rounders or Cricket!

3) But what percentage plays which sports in what countries. That is what matters. That is what tells you how big a deal it is. You can't say more play in the US and that proves something, because as you see below the US has... more people.

UK: Population: 59.6 million (National Statistics, 2003)
US: Population: 294 million (US Census Bureau estimate, 2004)

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 7 Quote: "You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns." Good luck on that one! You could try to collect the millions of unregistered guns from those of us who legally own them, but my bet is, it will get very bloody! Check your history books about 200 years back for reference, and LEARN from it!

4) Why do you guys always go to violence to solve your problems?

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 9 Quote: "All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good." That's funny, considering that Ford now owns your best auto manufacturers, IE; Jaguar, Aston Martin, and Rover. The German's own the rest, Bentley (VW), Mini and Rolls Royce (BMW). It's also interesting that JD Power now scores Cadillac above Audi, BMW, and Mercedes in quality and owner satisfaction. Motor Trend's top 3 finalists in this year's Car Of The Year, were all American cars (the Corvette, the new Mustang GT, and Chrysler's Hemi powered 300C), none of the European entries made it into the top 5!

5) Perhaps you missed the part where he said that he'd introduct you to German cars didn't you.

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 10 Quote: "You will learn to make real chips." We do know how to make chips! We put them in a bag and call them Ruffles!

6) Maybe you should re-read this one.

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 11 Quote: "As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself." That's okay, no one in Boston drinks tea. Coffee is the preferred beverage, which is why there's a Starbucks on every freakin' corner!

7) You are aware that Starbuck sells Tea as well, right?

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 14 Quote: "You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists." You may call them something else, but you have them too (except the guns, which is why the whole REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE stuff will never happen anyway!).

8) I do believe that you've missed his entire point.

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 16 Quote: "Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776)." I think were even, considering we saved your collective asses in WWII. In fact, you owe us, and we expect full payment at the end of the this fiscal year!

9) No you didn't. Read a history book instead of listening to your propaganda.

As was stated above, this article was making fun of a sterotype of the american people. You have just proven that you are that sterotype by posting these comments.

Thank you for being an example.

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Friday, December 24, 2004 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
Quote:
Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 3 Quote: "You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents." Sorry, I've never confused Mel Gibson's accent for John Cleese's!

1) < sarcasm >And clearly because you can make the distinction, others won't as well < /sarcasm >
See comment 2.

Sorry, most of us CAN tell the difference. Nicole Kidman and Judi Dench don't sound at all alike. I could give you other examples, but the facts seem to be beyond your comprehension.

Quote:
Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 4 Quote: "Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys." HELLO! You ever watch an episode of Buffy or Angel? Wesley and Giles ARE the good guys!

2) I'm not sure that you are aware of the quote "There is an exception to every rule." ie You can't quote one case as a counter example and expect the rule to go away. This isn't math, it's society.

One case? Can't you read? I clearly gave two! They were just the obvious examples, but hardly an exception to any rule. Obi Wan Kenobi, half the cast of Farscape, etc.

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 6 Quote: "The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football." Ever hear of NFL Europe? More American's actually play Soccer than British do! It's the number one amatuer and pro/am sport in the country!!! Don't even mess with Baseball! Outside of Europe, it's the fastest growing sport in the world. In Asia, and Central and South American countries, it's practically a national sport. Baseball is FAR better than Rounders or Cricket!

3) But what percentage plays which sports in what countries. That is what matters. That is what tells you how big a deal it is. You can't say more play in the US and that proves something, because as you see below the US has... more people.

UK: Population: 59.6 million (National Statistics, 2003)
US: Population: 294 million (US Census Bureau estimate, 2004)

You just skip over any facts you don't like, don't you! Soccer is the number one Am and Pro/Am sport in the US! Period!!!

Quote:
Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 7 Quote: "You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns." Good luck on that one! You could try to collect the millions of unregistered guns from those of us who legally own them, but my bet is, it will get very bloody! Check your history books about 200 years back for reference, and LEARN from it!

4) Why do you guys always go to violence to solve your problems?

You seem to miss the point. There won't be any violence, until some fop tries to take our guns. Honest lawful gun owners in the US only use our guns for self defense. Unlike you, we don't choose to be victims!

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 9 Quote: "All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good." That's funny, considering that Ford now owns your best auto manufacturers, IE; Jaguar, Aston Martin, and Rover. The German's own the rest, Bentley (VW), Mini and Rolls Royce (BMW). It's also interesting that JD Power now scores Cadillac above Audi, BMW, and Mercedes in quality and owner satisfaction. Motor Trend's top 3 finalists in this year's Car Of The Year, were all American cars (the Corvette, the new Mustang GT, and Chrysler's Hemi powered 300C), none of the European entries made it into the top 5!

5) Perhaps you missed the part where he said that he'd introduct you to German cars didn't you.

Nope, in fact I clearly mentioned that NO Euorpean cars (including German) made it into the final five, for Car of the Year.

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 10 Quote: "You will learn to make real chips." We do know how to make chips! We put them in a bag and call them Ruffles!

6) Maybe you should re-read this one.

No, we understand what you believe "chips" are, We're just telling you that we vote that chips are something else. As you pointed out with your population stats, we'd win that vote. Chips are Ruffles, deal with it!

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 11 Quote: "As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself." That's okay, no one in Boston drinks tea. Coffee is the preferred beverage, which is why there's a Starbucks on every freakin' corner!

7) You are aware that Starbuck sells Tea as well, right?

Yeah, but which sells better? They serve tea for the visiting Brits and Frogs.

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 14 Quote: "You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists." You may call them something else, but you have them too (except the guns, which is why the whole REVOCATION OF INDEPENDENCE stuff will never happen anyway!).

8) I do believe that you've missed his entire point.

No, the point was invalid because there are therapists and lawyers in England to. The father of modern therapy was a Brit, and our legal code (except in Louisiana) is based on England's legal system.

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

Point 16 Quote: "Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776)." I think were even, considering we saved your collective asses in WWII. In fact, you owe us, and we expect full payment at the end of the this fiscal year!

9) No you didn't. Read a history book instead of listening to your propaganda.

It seems that you are the one that's fallen for propaganda. If we hadn't assisited in the European theater during WWII, you'd all still be under Nazi rule! Fact are facts. Our Lend/Lease program helped you before we entered the war, and our manufacturing power and inexahustable supply of bombers broke the Nazi war machines back! Believe what you wish, but history is clear on who beat the Nazi's, the American air power on one front, and the Russian Army on the other front! England is just a footnote!

Thank you for being an example of the typical British self absorbed fop. You people actually still believe you have an Empire! LMAO!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Friday, December 24, 2004 5:22 PM

GAVIDA

Ah, come on Folks, this should be a fun thread where everyone pulls everyone's leg!

And to do so:

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Point 9 Quote: "All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good." That's funny, considering that Ford now owns your best auto manufacturers, IE; Jaguar, Aston Martin, and Rover. The German's own the rest, Bentley (VW), Mini and Rolls Royce (BMW). It's also interesting that JD Power now scores Cadillac above Audi, BMW, and Mercedes in quality and owner satisfaction. Motor Trend's top 3 finalists in this year's Car Of The Year, were all American cars (the Corvette, the new Mustang GT, and Chrysler's Hemi powered 300C), none of the European entries made it into the top 5!

Let me guess, JD Powers is an american institution and Motor Trend is an american magazine?

Keep flying,

Gavida

PS: Man, I love John Cleese!

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 2:05 AM

SOUPCATCHER

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Originally posted by MacBaker
Thank you for being an example of the typical British self absorbed fop. You people actually still believe you have an Empire! LMAO!

When I read this I just had to paraphrase from my favorite exchange in the movie "Bottle Rocket" (done in my best Luke Wilson impersonation - aw, who am I kidding, I can't do a Luke Wilson impersonation):

SoupCatcher: What part of Britain are you from, SigmaNunki?
SigmaNunki: Canada.

I now cease and desist this digression.

Peace on Earth. Goodwill to everyone

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 5:06 AM

DAIKATH

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German Customer:I did not start it!

Basil Falty: You invaded poland!

even though i dutch and we do things slightly differnet then the british (we drive on the right and we call lager beer(yay Heineken)) it was fun to read. But that above quote should put everything in perspective after his comment about german cars.

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 5:21 AM

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Let me guess, JD Powers is an american institution and Motor Trend is an american magazine?

Keep flying,

Gavida

PS: Man, I love John Cleese!

Yes, but JD Power uses a sampling from not just US owners, but of owners in Europe and Asia (on cars that are also availible in those areas). Motor Trend has included judges from sister publications in europe for years now.

Let's be honest though. Most people have no idea where their car was built anymore. Honda's Civic Si is built in England. Saab's new sport wagon is a Subaru WRX with a new nose, and Saab's new SUV is a rebadged Chevy. Lamborghini's new Gallardo is built by new owners Audi. BMW's X3 and X5 SUVs are built in America. So are most of the trucks and SUVs built by Toyota and Nissan. Half of the Ford F-150's sold, are built in Canada. Half of Jaguar's model line are based on Fords. The new Mazda 3 and Volvo's S40 are Ford Focus based cars. The Toyota Matrix and Pontiac Vibe are built in on the same line in a US plant. Mercedes and BMW both outsource their new automatic transmissions from an American manufacturer. The Honda Accord sold in North America is an American car. It's built in Ohio (has been for over a decade), and it's not sold anywhere else. The Accord sold in Europe is a smaller sedan, and sold in North America as the Acura TSX.

P.S. I love John Cleese too. I spotted him driving in L.A. a few months back, and he was behind the wheel of an American Icon, the new Corvette! I also spotted Paris and Nikki Hilton the same day. They were drivin a Bentley Continental GT. Something seems wrong with that!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 8:26 AM

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

It seems that you are the one that's fallen for propaganda. If we hadn't assisited in the European theater during WWII, you'd all still be under Nazi rule! Fact are facts. Our Lend/Lease program helped you before we entered the war, and our manufacturing power and inexahustable supply of bombers broke the Nazi war machines back! Believe what you wish, but history is clear on who beat the Nazi's, the American air power on one front, and the Russian Army on the other front! England is just a footnote!

Thank you for being an example of the typical British self absorbed fop. You people actually still believe you have an Empire! LMAO!

1) I'm not British, I'm Canadian. Perhaps you shouldn't make such assumptions.

2) I appreciate that you continue to provide as an example of the sterotype that this comedy makes fun of (yes it is comedy).

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 10:07 AM

MOHRSTOUTBEARD

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Originally posted by wildbill:
4 - Who cares? All British sitcoms are lame

Bullshit.

"You've just gotta go ahead and change the captain of your brainship, because he's drunk at the wheel."

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 6:25 PM

1) I'm not British, I'm Canadian. Perhaps you shouldn't make such assumptions.

There's a difference?

2) I appreciate that you continue to provide as an example of the sterotype that this comedy makes fun of (yes it is comedy).

The comedy goes both ways (something you seem to be missing). It's humorous that the the author (not really John Cleese BTW) imagines a world where Great Britian could actually revoke something they never gave in the first place, but was taken from them by force. Revolution is a concept the english never seem to understand, despite being on the wrong side of several revolutions during their history. Funny how that concept seems to escape many from Canada too. Hmmmm!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Saturday, December 25, 2004 7:35 PM

This last post just tells me how uninformed you are about matters outside your own boarders. Keep them coming, your just proving my point more and more with each post.

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Sunday, December 26, 2004 4:57 AM

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Originally posted by SigmaNunki:
This last post just tells me how uninformed you are about matters outside your own boarders. Keep them coming, your just proving my point more and more with each post.

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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

As do yours! With your level of self importance, someone might end up building a statue to you! Not here mind you, but there has to be gulible enough people in some crappy town that would think everything you say is gold!

I'd given some thought to movin' off the edge -- not an ideal location -- thinkin' a place in the middle.

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Sunday, December 26, 2004 9:49 AM

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Originally posted by MacBaker:

As do yours! With your level of self importance, someone might end up building a statue to you! Not here mind you, but there has to be gulible enough people in some crappy town that would think everything you say is gold!

I have no idea where you're getting this self importance thing, perhaps you should enlighten me as to how you've come to this conclusion.

And while your at it, perhaps you should also tell the tale as how you have come to the conclusion that I have no idea what goes on outside my boarders.

Inquiring minds want to know.

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Tuesday, December 28, 2004 7:06 AM

CAPNRAHN

Brilliant bit of posting, SigmaNunki!!!

MacBaker - seems you have ruined a nice fluffy comedy post and SEEM to be trying to make it a flame-war.

You must be a tad too tetchy after the holidays, I suppose.

Lighten up! The New Year is coming!!!

"Remember, there is only ONE absolute - There ARE NO absolutes!!!"

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Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by CapnRahn:

Brilliant bit of posting, SigmaNunki!!!

Thanks

although I do regret having been a part of taking this thread off topic for a bit.

But to return to something similar to the thread topic, has anyone here seen Fawlty Towers?

I've just snaged it and know that its humour is more adult than Monty Python. Is it along the lines of this article? Just wondering what to expect (damn work taking up all my time...).

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Wednesday, December 29, 2004 2:37 AM

KNIBBLET

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Originally posted by CapnRahn:
*name snipped* - seems you have ruined a nice fluffy comedy post and SEEM to be trying to make it a flame-war.

Some people aren't happy unless everyone else is miserable. This is especially true at the holidays.
The secret is to NOT look for insult unless it is clear that insult is being given. If insult is actually being given, answer with unparalleled kindness.

"Just keep walkin, preacher man."

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Wednesday, December 29, 2004 12:00 PM

PHOEBE

Hey hey hey guys, come on now.

This is NOT!!!!!!! meant to be serious

There's no need to dissect the whole thing. Its just a piece of humour. I know that I have seen similar things based on the UK and LAUGHED! Cause its all meant with the best of intentions and I know for a FACT that the person who wrote that (I saw where it originated from) didn't have insults in mind. Please don't turn humour into friction between us, please!! Humour the poor little English teen here a min!

With that said, laugh or don't laugh, but at least appreciate its not meant seriously!

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Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:17 PM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

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Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat.

And served with vinegar, right? Not ketchup, catsup, ketsup ....

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Wednesday, December 29, 2004 4:25 PM

TAUSETIPRIME

I completely agree that this isnt supposed to be serious.

I, also, would like to mention, that my previous post in this thread was SERIOUS.

For my 13 birthday, my former evil step-mother gave me a a copy of a video called "How to annoy people" whose main writer was John Cleese. I wish I still had it, it was VERY instructive!

I think he is a creative and ingenious writer, and I think we should all listen to what he says. If for nothing more than to hear laughter in a world filled with not enough of it.

They didnt call it the dark ages because it was dark.

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Thursday, January 6, 2005 10:12 PM

OBSESSED

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
It was meant to be funny! Not offensive and rude, just funny. Learn to take a joke. Please. Not every comment is cause for offense and threats of violence. Everyone should be able to laugh at themselves. Not being able to tends to indicate some serious insecurities and just might drive you crazy. Here's the thing: no person or country is perfect; everyone has flaws. So acting like the USA (or anywhere else) is above reproach is silly. Again, learn to take a joke.
Also, how long are we going to use WWII as an argument? It's over. Winning a war half a century ago does not give us the right to be jackasses now.

Just a small note, I think it's "How to Irritate People" rather than "annoy"..... might make it easier to find if anyone is looking for it (I managed to find a couple copies on eBay for not to much)

Huitzil, you beat me to it about the tights. Thank you Thank you Thank you for saying it.

Book: I'd forgotten - you're moonlighting as a criminal mastermind now.
Simon: No, but I'm thinking about growing a big black mustache. I'm a traditionalist.

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Friday, January 7, 2005 12:18 PM

FIFINELLA

Just for everyone's personal store of knowledge--I remember this forward floating around after the last presidential election--when we really did fail to elect a leader. Someone just added some more clauses and sent it around again--more appropriate last time, but still funny.

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Saturday, January 8, 2005 11:14 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY

OBSESSED, I could'nt agree more. It seems to have become a sad and disturbing trend on this site that almost every thread leads to a slanging-match of some kind. When I was a lurker I used to come here everyday for FIREFLY info, RPG ideas or just a good snigger. Now it just makes me angry. And the temptation to bad-mouth the people that bad-mouth first is getting to much. Think I had better call it a day.

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Sunday, January 9, 2005 7:08 AM

I only found this site yesterday... I'm not entirely sure if I'll stick around.
But a big yay for John Cleese and being able to laugh at yourself!
I went to the globe (the reconstruction of shakespeare's original theatre) a while ago and loads of people paid to have sponsored paving slabs in the courtyard there (to raise money) including John Cleese and another of the Monty Python guys, anyway the other dude paid double to have them spell John Cleese's name wrong!
This is what laughing at yourself is.
Everyone. Please learn how.

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Sunday, January 9, 2005 7:34 AM

EMBERS

Weasy, don't be in a hurry to run away...
Have you been in the Blue Sun Room to see the pretty WPs and the fanfic?
This is a fun and friendly site....

most of the time

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Sunday, January 9, 2005 8:15 AM

Okay. I'll go look.
I was actually looking for firefly messgae boards though because I haven't seen it yet but am being lent the DVDs in a couple of weeks. I wanted to know how the fans saw it, because I've mostly been hearing about it from the very divided Buffy fans. (they're divided because some of them blame Firefly on Joss spreading himself too thin and Buffy getting a bit crap for a while - but some of them think it's amazing so... I'm open-minded, but the fans tended to be the people who really know what's good and what's not - not reviewers so: lurking I came.)

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Sunday, January 9, 2005 8:49 AM

EMBERS

well Weasly, I have bought eleven sets of Firefly DVDs and have given them out to friends and family because I love the show that much...

and I have had 99% success, as far as I can tell, only those who are dead set against any kind of sci-fi end up disliking it.
Everyone else I know has loved it as much as me.

I was a huge Buffy & Angel fan first of course, but I can't blame Joss for having new ideas for a new show, and then falling in love with the wonderful cast he put together (I can't blame him because I love them too).

I don't think Buffy would have ended any differently, or the WB would have refrained from cancelling Angel, if Joss had not made Firefly.
So personally I think that that question is moot.

If you love Joss' writing, then I think you are going to find a great deal to love in Firefly!
JMPO

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Sunday, January 9, 2005 10:18 AM

MONTANAGIRL

Quote:
Originally posted by Weasy:
...the other dude paid double to have them spell John Cleese's name wrong!

Just because I love the Pythons, I have to know which one did that.

Packer fans welcome.
All others tolerated.

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Sunday, January 9, 2005 2:49 PM

Weasy:
The people here in the FF threads are friendly and I've come to feel at home here (pretty much right away actually

). It's a good bunch of people here

So, I'd recommend sticking around. It's fun here for the most part.

But the political threads can get somewhat heated, which is why I try to participate in only one or two at a time (they tend to be time consuming and I typically have more important things to deal with).

As for Buffy being crap for a good chunk of the last season. I think that this was unavoidable. I mean, what do you do with characters that have said and done all they can say and do? What happens when ideas start running thin? It was good prior to season 6 but then started to have problems. Season 6 is where the problems started, even though there are some gems in there. It was just its time to go.

As for angle, it's the DVD's that killed it. The company decided it would be a "good idea" to start selling the DVD's while the show was still on the air. Problem is, that they get there money from comercials, especially on re-runs. So, how many people will watch a re-run when they have the DVD without them blasted commericals to interupt the fun? Effectively none. Basically, stupid business decision results in cancellation of show.

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"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window." -Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

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Monday, January 10, 2005 1:39 AM

Thanks for wanting me to stay!
And actually that's an interesting point about the cancellation of Angel I didn't really think about how DVD sales would affect things but still, they did have increasing ratings on teh last season so it was still pretty pointless to cancel it.
In some ways I think if Joss had been around there would have been less pontless B/S sex in season six and that's what put a lot of people off Buffy - but I find myself forgiving him because everyone tells me firefly is so great...
Sorry this is all completely off topic for this board!

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Wednesday, January 12, 2005 11:20 PM