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Wednesday, June 23, 2021 11:25 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Hundreds more graves.

Cowessess First Nation.

Marieval site in Saskatchewan.



Yes, and Alberta has now set money aside to cover ground penetrating RADAR to go over the grounds of the 25 schools that operated in that province.

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:36 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Hundreds of unmarked graves discovered at a former residential school in Canada, officials say

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/24/americas/canada-unmarked-graves-dis
covered/index.html



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Thursday, June 24, 2021 1:30 PM

BRENDA


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Hundreds of unmarked graves discovered at a former residential school in Canada, officials say

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/24/americas/canada-unmarked-graves-dis
covered/index.html





Yes, Kiki. That is in Saskatchewan.

There were 140 of these places across Canada. Read an earlier post of mine to JSF.

The US is not innocent as there were 350 down there. Taking full-blood children and sometimes half-breed children, like my grandmother and her siblings because they had no where else to go when their parents died.

Got mixed up.

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 4:39 PM

BRENDA


There has apparently been some work done on the grounds of Carlisle Indian Boarding School which was the first in the US. It is in Pennsylvania. So far the remains of 10 children have been found.

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 4:57 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Hundreds more graves.

Cowessess First Nation.

Marieval site in Saskatchewan.

751.


https://ca.news.yahoo.com/canada-751-unmarked-graves-saskatchewan-1823
11659.html






This is my first post on this page, so I think I will start an index of pertinent posts of discoveries here. I can only hope I don't make too many mistakes.



#18, 2 Jun - 215. Kamloops. Kamloops First Nation.
#35, 5 Jun - Shubenacadie, NS.
#44, 14 Jun - St. Joseph's near Williams Lake, BC.

#54, 24 Jun - 10. Carlisle, Pennsylvania.
#55, 24 Jun - 751. Marieval, Saskatchewan. Cowessess First Nation.
#58, 24 Jun - 104. Brandon, Manitoba. Sioux Valley Dakota Nation.







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Thursday, June 24, 2021 5:02 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Hundreds of unmarked graves discovered at a former residential school in Canada, officials say

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/24/americas/canada-unmarked-graves-dis
covered/index.html


Yes, Kiki. That is in Manitoba.

That link mentions the Cowessess First Nation, with the site at Marieval in Saskatchewan. Same one I already mentioned.

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 7:16 PM

BRENDA


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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Hundreds of unmarked graves discovered at a former residential school in Canada, officials say

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/24/americas/canada-unmarked-graves-dis
covered/index.html


Yes, Kiki. That is in Manitoba.

That link mentions the Cowessess First Nation, with the site at Marieval in Saskatchewan. Same one I already mentioned.



Thank you for correcting me. I was thinking of Brandon which is in Manitoba. Graves there as well.

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 7:26 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Hundreds of unmarked graves discovered at a former residential school in Canada, officials say

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/24/americas/canada-unmarked-graves-dis
covered/index.html


Yes, Kiki. That is in Manitoba.

That link mentions the Cowessess First Nation, with the site at Marieval in Saskatchewan. Same one I already mentioned.

Thank you for correcting me. I was thinking of Brandon which is in Manitoba. Graves there as well.

104 graves.

Manitoba First Nation is mentioned, site seems to be Brandon.
But specific First Nation seems to be Sioux Valley Dakota Nation.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7947060/manitoba-brandon-first-nation-resid
ential-school-graves
/

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 10:40 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
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Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Hundreds of unmarked graves discovered at a former residential school in Canada, officials say

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/24/americas/canada-unmarked-graves-dis
covered/index.html


Yes, Kiki. That is in Manitoba.

That link mentions the Cowessess First Nation, with the site at Marieval in Saskatchewan. Same one I already mentioned.

Thank you for correcting me. I was thinking of Brandon which is in Manitoba. Graves there as well.

104 graves.

Manitoba First Nation is mentioned, site seems to be Brandon.
But specific First Nation seems to be Sioux Valley Dakota Nation.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7947060/manitoba-brandon-first-nation-resid
ential-school-graves/



History lesson the Dakota came up to Canada to get away from US soldiers trying to take them to reservation. Some were sent back to the US but some stayed.

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Thursday, June 24, 2021 10:42 PM

BRENDA


Further note for Carlisle as there has been 109 burials found there.


If anything good can be said about the events in Canada is that it is forcing the US to face its own shameful past.

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Friday, June 25, 2021 4:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Further note for Carlisle as there has been 109 burials found there.


If anything good can be said about the events in Canada is that it is forcing the US to face its own shameful past.

I'm not finding any aticles about 109 graves. The most I find is 14 graves.


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/remains-carlisle-indian-industrial-scho
ol-disinterred_n_60cf71cae4b0c101b70e50dd


That is in Carlisle, PA.

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Friday, June 25, 2021 5:40 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Further note for Carlisle as there has been 109 burials found there.


If anything good can be said about the events in Canada is that it is forcing the US to face its own shameful past.

I'm not finding any aticles about 109 graves. The most I find is 14 graves.


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/remains-carlisle-indian-industrial-scho
ol-disinterred_n_60cf71cae4b0c101b70e50dd



Think the numbers are getting mixed up then.

Thanks for the correction. Though I am sure that number of 14 will go higher.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 7:14 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


182 unmarked graves.

St Eugene Mission School near Cranbrook, B.C. Now a Casino.

Ktunaxa Nation, Lower Kootenay Band.


https://ca.news.yahoo.com/182-unmarked-graves-discovered-near-17072192
3.html

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 7:47 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


What is it about residential "schools"? English did the same to Irish. Australians and New Zealanders did that to their aborigines. Irish Catholic hierarchy did the same to unwed mothers.

I guess, unlike prison, "school" sounds so benign. But unlike prison, residential schools, "reformatories", and mental institutions .... there was no oversight and no means of getting out except escape.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 7:54 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What is it about residential "schools"? English did the same to Irish. Australians and New Zealanders did that to their aborigines. Irish Catholic hierarchy did the same to unwed mothers.

I guess, unlike prison, "school" sounds so benign. But unlike prison, residential schools, "reformatories", and mental institutions .... there was no oversight and no means of getting out except escape.

How many really beileve that the Penitentiary System is intended to teach or reform?

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 11:01 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What is it about residential "schools"? English did the same to Irish. Australians and New Zealanders did that to their aborigines. Irish Catholic hierarchy did the same to unwed mothers.

I guess, unlike prison, "school" sounds so benign. But unlike prison, residential schools, "reformatories", and mental institutions .... there was no oversight and no means of getting out except escape.

-----------
Pity would be no more ,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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What better way to destroy whole cultures than taking the children away to "teach" them how inferior they were.

Mixed blood children were taken into these places as well. My own family is a perfect example of it. My grandmother and her sisters and brother would have grown up hearing "half-breed" usually proceeded by dirty just like full blood Native American children.

And as I said look to the US, Sig. The US is not innocent in this horror show.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 11:07 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
182 unmarked graves.

St Eugene Mission School near Cranbrook, B.C. Now a Casino.

Ktunaxa Nation, Lower Kootenay Band.


https://ca.news.yahoo.com/182-unmarked-graves-discovered-near-17072192
3.html



I was going to post about this JSF. The casino is on a different part of the site. Not near the graves.

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 11:20 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What is it about residential "schools"? English did the same to Irish. Australians and New Zealanders did that to their aborigines. Irish Catholic hierarchy did the same to unwed mothers.

I guess, unlike prison, "school" sounds so benign. But unlike prison, residential schools, "reformatories", and mental institutions .... there was no oversight and no means of getting out except escape.

-----------
Pity would be no more ,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.



What better way to destroy whole cultures than taking the children away to "teach" them how inferior they were.

Mixed blood children were taken into these places as well. My own family is a perfect example of it. My grandmother and her sisters and brother would have grown up hearing "half-breed" usually proceeded by dirty just like full blood Native American children.

And as I said look to the US, Sig. The US is not innocent in this horror show.

You're preaching to the choir, BRENDA. The USA has its own history of genocide and broken promises to confront.

I've often posted that the best thing for the native Americans to have done with the white settlers was to shoot them (with arrows, from behind trees) and keep on shooting until there was no one left alive to take word back to the homelandabout that verdant land waiting to be settled. Unfortunately, some of the natives were much more humane than the colonizers who came to their shores.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Wednesday, June 30, 2021 11:31 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
What is it about residential "schools"? English did the same to Irish. Australians and New Zealanders did that to their aborigines. Irish Catholic hierarchy did the same to unwed mothers.

I guess, unlike prison, "school" sounds so benign. But unlike prison, residential schools, "reformatories", and mental institutions .... there was no oversight and no means of getting out except escape.

-----------
Pity would be no more ,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.



What better way to destroy whole cultures than taking the children away to "teach" them how inferior they were.

Mixed blood children were taken into these places as well. My own family is a perfect example of it. My grandmother and her sisters and brother would have grown up hearing "half-breed" usually proceeded by dirty just like full blood Native American children.

And as I said look to the US, Sig. The US is not innocent in this horror show.

You're preaching to the choir, BRENDA. The USA has its own history of genocide and broken promises to confront.

I've often posted that the best thing for the native Americans to have done with the white settlers was to shoot them (with arrows, from behind trees) and keep on shooting until there was no one left alive to take word back to the homelandabout that verdant land waiting to be settled. Unfortunately, some of the natives were much more humane than the colonizers who came to their shores.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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Yes. the US does. Which is why I applaud Deb Haaland for wanting to start an investigation into "schools" down there. Some one had started one at Carlisle which was the first.

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Thursday, July 1, 2021 11:22 PM

BRENDA


The school that was at Cranbrook has a graveyard attached to it. One of the elders of the local band says that there could be settlers buried there as well as some children from the school.

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Saturday, July 3, 2021 4:46 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
The school that was at Cranbrook has a graveyard attached to it. One of the elders of the local band says that there could be settlers buried there as well as some children from the school.

Are you saying this includes the 182? Or this is separate from the 182?

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Saturday, July 3, 2021 5:08 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
The school that was at Cranbrook has a graveyard attached to it. One of the elders of the local band says that there could be settlers buried there as well as some children from the school.

Are you saying this includes the 182? Or this is separate from the 182?



The other burials are included in the 182.

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Saturday, July 10, 2021 4:57 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Trudeau has lost mob control?

Canada is now burning, forest fires
the Roman Catholic Churches destroyed
Statues of the British Queen smashed

I wonder if they will ttack and burn the Jihad Mosques, maybe attack the Synagogue with links to Trafficking or the Sikh Gurdwara Temples that connect to Ariline bombings, maybe also Scientology could be targeted the Church of England, the Mormon or Anglican Church of Canada could be targeted?....seems the brainwashed Antifa graduates are burning down those churches while the indigenous Native leaders aren't impressed with the vandalism and burning and smashing.


Former 'landmark' Catholic church northwest of Saskatoon burns to the ground, 15th church burned in recent weeks
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/former-landmark-catholic-church-n
orthwest-of-saskatoon-burns-to-the-ground

a real protest....or just looking for an excuse to burn or loot or do damage?

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Saturday, July 10, 2021 8:38 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It all started when we stopped keeping score in soccer and letting parents give their kid a good wack or two without getting DCFS involved.

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And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

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Saturday, July 10, 2021 1:11 PM

BRENDA


Would you Janzyestown and you Jack, like to show some respect for the cultures that were destroyed on this continent by the residential school system?

Which is also responsible for the drug and alcohol problems that have plagued FIRST NATIONS on both sides of the border.

My family and others that I know who are full blood, not half breeds like mine have suffered because of this system.

My grandmother and her siblings not only lost their parents but then being in one of those places lost their sense of self and self worth.

Dirty Indian, dirty half breed. Can't be trusted.

For a half breed being shunned by full blood because half white and shunned by whites being half Indian.

Stop and think about what those types of concepts do to a CHILD's sense of who they are.

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Saturday, July 10, 2021 1:14 PM

BRENDA


Also these places weren't set up to educate, they were set up to destroy.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2021 1:26 PM

BRENDA


160 more unmarked graves found on Penelakut island, site of a former residential school.

That brings the total to 1,000. And that is only 4 sites.

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Wednesday, July 14, 2021 1:49 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
It all started when we stopped keeping score in soccer and letting parents give their kid a good wack or two without getting DCFS involved.

--------------------------------------------------

And he who is not sufficiently courageous to defend his soul — don’t let him be proud of his ‘progressive’ views, and don’t let him boast that he is an academician or a people’s artist, a distinguished figure or a general. Let him say to himself: I am a part of the herd and a coward. It’s all the same to me as long as I’m fed and kept warm.

I hope you're being sarcastic, SIX.

1,000+ unmarked graves isn't about unearned self esteem.

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Thursday, July 15, 2021 11:09 PM

BRENDA


Another 200 potential unmarked graves found on the site of the former residential school at Kamloops. This announcement was made today by the chief of the Kamloops first nation. She had 3 elders with her that spoke of their time at that place. 2 Knowledge Keepers and 1 Language Keeper.

Radar used on the old orchard that was on the grounds because in the late 1990s and early 2000s, a child's tooth and rib bone were found by someone walking the grounds.

So far 2 acres of the total 200 acres at that site have been searched.

Archaeologists will be coming in to help map and possibly exhume the site.

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Friday, July 16, 2021 4:18 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Another 200 potential unmarked graves found on the site of the former residential school at Kamloops. This announcement was made today by the chief of the Kamloops first nation. She had 3 elders with her that spoke of their time at that place. 2 Knowledge Keepers and 1 Language Keeper.

Radar used on the old orchard that was on the grounds because in the late 1990s and early 2000s, a child's tooth and rib bone were found by someone walking the grounds.

So far 2 acres of the total 200 acres at that site have been searched.

Archaeologists will be coming in to help map and possibly exhume the site.

This is getting worse and worse, isn't it?

It makes me heartsick to know this has happened.

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Friday, July 16, 2021 1:12 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Another 200 potential unmarked graves found on the site of the former residential school at Kamloops. This announcement was made today by the chief of the Kamloops first nation. She had 3 elders with her that spoke of their time at that place. 2 Knowledge Keepers and 1 Language Keeper.

Radar used on the old orchard that was on the grounds because in the late 1990s and early 2000s, a child's tooth and rib bone were found by someone walking the grounds.

So far 2 acres of the total 200 acres at that site have been searched.

Archaeologists will be coming in to help map and possibly exhume the site.

This is getting worse and worse, isn't it?

It makes me heartsick to know this has happened.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

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It is.

What will be even worse is when the ball if and when it really gets rolling in the US on former residential school sites.


My heart breaks a little more the more I hear. When I see pictures of the children forced into these places, I find myself trying to imagine what it must have been like for my grandmother and her sisters and brother being carted away to one of these places in the US. Most likely by an Indian agent and whatever clergy depending on where they were sent in Montana.

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Friday, July 16, 2021 4:13 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
Another 200 potential unmarked graves found on the site of the former residential school at Kamloops. This announcement was made today by the chief of the Kamloops first nation. She had 3 elders with her that spoke of their time at that place. 2 Knowledge Keepers and 1 Language Keeper.

Radar used on the old orchard that was on the grounds because in the late 1990s and early 2000s, a child's tooth and rib bone were found by someone walking the grounds.

So far 2 acres of the total 200 acres at that site have been searched.

Archaeologists will be coming in to help map and possibly exhume the site.

This is getting worse and worse, isn't it?

It makes me heartsick to know this has happened.

In my view, it is better and better - to exposed and reveal the horrors which were perpetrated. What happened in history was worse and worse, but now exposing it is important, our version of a Holocaust.
The more we expose, the better.

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Tuesday, August 10, 2021 10:49 PM

BRENDA


Another school site to be investigated. This one operated in North Vancouver from 1899 till 1959 when it was closed. 2,000 children from the Musqueam, Squamish and Tsleil-waututh were there. Once it closed they were sent up to Kamloops.

12 graves found. Radar will be used. The Arch-Diocese of Vancouver was at the site with chiefs and elders from all three tribes to apologize. They will and are turning over their records from the "school" which was called St. Paul's.

The building is long gone and there has been development on the site, but there is still enough clear areas for radar to be useful.

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Wednesday, September 15, 2021 1:18 PM

BRENDA


38 unmarked graves at Regina Industrial School for Indians are to be marked with aluminum feathers all painted orange.

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Tuesday, November 30, 2021 7:58 PM

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