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Wow. You really are a special child, Second.

You learn all the wrong lessons from everything.

It's little wonder you have no friends.

Don't go making any bombs today now.

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6ix, you are the one talking about never again working a regular job, but instead mowing lawns and snow plowing driveways to earn the very little money you need to eat. The Unabomber, Mr Freedom personified, lived on very little money. The Unabomber Manifesto does not have anything you would object to, but because it is TL;DR "too long; didn't read" for 6ix, you will never know. Vaccines are an affront to the Unabomber's freedom. Funny about how 6ix swore to never get vaccinated.

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You keep missing the point, over and over. The Unabomber expressed in his Manifesto everything that Trump expressed while President. The Unabomber was there decades ahead of Trump. Trump could have used the Unabomber as both speechwriter and political strategist much more capable than the guys Trump hired, but the Unabomber was in prison. That was so unfortunate, but the Unabomber literally writes down on paper the very same ideas motivating the kind of people who vote for Trump and who won't get vaccinated and who struggle to stay in the middle class. The Unabomber was prescient about Trump and his voters and what kind of arguments Trump could use to win over his kind of voters.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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You keep missing the point, over and over. The Unabomber expressed in his Manifesto everything that Trump expressed while President. The Unabomber was there decades ahead of Trump. Trump could have used the Unabomber as both speechwriter and political strategist much more capable than the guys Trump hired, but the Unabomber was in prison. That was so unfortunate, but the Unabomber literally writes down on paper the very same ideas motivating the kind of people who vote for Trump and who won't get vaccinated and who struggle to stay in the middle class. The Unabomber was prescient about Trump and his voters and what kind of arguments Trump could use to win over his kind of voters.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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I think Trump was not that good. He was pretty good, but not 100% clean. He couldn't stop the beast. I think he tried. But he was no Ted Kaczynski.

Second, I'm dubious of the idea that you would read enough written by someone who disagreed with you to come up with this theory, so where did you get it from?

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Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Sig,

feeling about the same, thanks. maybe a little better but more likely it just that I don't do anything anymore and so I'm not as exhausted by the nothing I do. I just rot and wait to turn into a zombie like the vaxed.

hopefully getting some trump drugs soon. Not expecting a holy grail, but i'll try it

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I keep forgetting to say that I am sorry these threads are not progressing the way you had hoped, but these derailments happen a lot here now.

I also still hope you are still getting better.

If you read the HCQ thread, you likely saw that HCQ has been used for decades to regularly treat Lupus, and Rheumatoid Arthritis. So maybe clinics like that are a source.

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Was probably always like that.
Feeling about the same, fortunately not getting worse.
Anyway, I have found a source

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:

Hi DT. If Signy hadn't asked how you're doing, I would have. I'm glad you're at least not feeling worse.

If you have significant African or Mediterranean ancestry you might want to be cautious using chloroquine. Roughly 10% of ppl with that ancestry have a G6PD deficiency, and their red cells can't handle the substance (or fava beans or other substances for that matter), and explode. Ivermectin is OK afaik.

FWIW I had my butt kicked for over a year. And I still sometimes get set back to zero (no energy, high HR), though thankfully not often at this point.

Please be patient and take care of yourself. A lack of energy, maybe even with sleepiness, is your body's way of telling you it's not doing well, and that you can't expect normal things from it.

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Thanks. You had the Zovid?

Not black, no. No sickle cell or other forms of mediterranean anemia

Also, what exactly is your relationship with SignyM ?

hcq used to be popped like candy by travelers. IDK what the risks are for me, as I have these underlying conditions
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11128688/

I know that the covid autoimmune responses are going to be deadly in the long term. It would be nice if there was a home test for corona that wouldn't get me remanded to a gas chamber. What would be nicer is a non-invasive test like a telltale sign that it's covid and not a random virus that has nothing to do with this pandemic, which of course is always possible.

It's clearly not coxsackie because that comes with a specific rash or welt, but it still might be a non-pandemic related illness.

I strongly suspect though that it's covid, and that all the vaxed are carriers of a bioweapon. statistically, if this is true, it makes everything make sense. If it's not true, nothing around here makes sense. We don't have the numbers to have the kind of results we have. Virtually everyone who had gotten the vax has gotten covid, and virtually no one who has not gotten the vax has gotten covid.

It's odd. Anyway, IDK what I have, but it gives me only covid as a likely possibility any time I look up any of the symptoms. It could also be that the media takeover of the internet has deleted all competing data though

When you're as much of a skeptic as I am it undermines all the normal logical hypotheses

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I know that the covid autoimmune responses are going to be deadly in the long term. It would be nice if there was a home test for corona that wouldn't get me remanded to a gas chamber.

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Fwiw, I (almost) never post about people except to address whatever they say here (except when I posted about my parents who were long-ago deceased). It's just my thing.

Re HCQ, I could look up the dosing scheduled again, but this is roughly correct: HCQ when used as an anti-malarial prophylactic is something like 100mg once a week, or 50mg if you're small. Used to treat COVID-19 I believe it was a loading dose of 400mg followed by 200mg twice a day. As you can see, the difference in dosages is substantial! ... ~30:1.

COVID-19 enters and attacks cells with the ACE-2 receptor. So in what tissues is the ACE-2 receptor found? What I found was very scattered. Different studies I looked at state different things because, I think, they looked a different tissues. DUH! You won't find something in a tissue if you don't look for it there.

Here are a couple of examples:
ACE2, the Putative Receptor of Wuhan 2019-nCoV, Has Significant Expression in the Nasal, Mouth, Lung and Colon Tissues
https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202002.0247/v1
surface expression of ACE2 protein on lung alveolar epithelial cells and enterocytes of the small intestine. Furthermore, ACE2 was present in arterial and venous endothelial cells and arterial smooth muscle cells in all organs
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15141377/


I'm more than 50% that you have COVID-19, but I'm not entirely convinced either. GI-centered presentations have happened in the past, though not frequently. If I were you, as a general precaution just in case, I'd want to make sure that nothing is getting out of hand - so maybe monitor your O2 sats, HR, BP, and temp generally several times during the day, and also if you feel worse. You don't want anything serious sneaking up on you.

Your local hospital ... I take it it's a small community hospital? In general they're not the sharpest knife in the drawer. Btw, I hope it's not Catholic, the ones I know of have really brutal end-of-life policies. That aside, is there any place better that's accessible?

Anyway, I hope you keep us up to date with how you're doing. And as Signy suggested, do you have someone who can routinely check up on you? And sound the alarm for a missed contact? Because you're there, and all the rest of us FFF are not there. And I really think you could use someone who can actively intervene on your behalf, just in case.


Please take good care of yourself, and keep yourself safe.

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I keep forgetting to say that I am sorry these threads are not progressing the way you had hoped, but these derailments happen a lot here now.

I also still hope you are still getting better.

If you read the HCQ thread, you likely saw that HCQ has been used for decades to regularly treat Lupus, and Rheumatoid Arthritis. So maybe clinics like that are a source.

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Was probably always like that.
Feeling about the same, fortunately not getting worse.
Anyway, I have found a source

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Please be patient and take care of yourself. A lack of energy, maybe even with sleepiness, is your body's way of telling you it's not doing well, and that you can't expect normal things from it.

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hcq used to be popped like candy by travelers. IDK what the risks are for me, as I have these underlying conditions
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11128688/

I know that the covid autoimmune responses are going to be deadly in the long term.

It would be nice if there was a home test for corona that wouldn't get me remanded to a gas chamber. What would be nicer is a non-invasive test like a telltale sign that it's covid and not a random virus that has nothing to do with this pandemic, which of course is always possible.

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I strongly suspect though that it's covid, and that all the vaxed are carriers of a bioweapon. statistically, if this is true, it makes everything make sense. If it's not true, nothing around here makes sense. We don't have the numbers to have the kind of results we have. Virtually everyone who had gotten the vax has gotten covid, and virtually no one who has not gotten the vax has gotten covid.

It's odd. Anyway, IDK what I have, but it gives me only covid as a likely possibility any time I look up any of the symptoms. It could also be that the media takeover of the internet has deleted all competing data though

When you're as much of a skeptic as I am it undermines all the normal logical hypotheses

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I have an underlying heart condition that is related to an ACE2 deficiency, so the virus is probably less virulent in me, but I've had much of the weakness. I think to the outside I would now appear to be an "Asymptomatic Carrier" but I'm plenty not well. I'm just not sick in a straightforward symptomatic way, I'm weak and sweat easily if I try to do anything. Heart rate is not as high as it was. This morning it was 53 when I got up. Hasn't really gone above 90 all day. But orthostatic intolerance is a major issue for me now

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That test is certainly the camel's nose under the medical privacy tent FOR THOSE THAT CHOOSE IT.

Duh.

And since ppl have no problem with giving away their privacy AND their free speech to 'social media', other corporations besides social media, and the government, not to mention people who give their thinking over to the m$m and google, I imagine there might be a substantial number of people interested.

Not me. Not you. Not DT. But other people might make that choice.



So, are you now all of the sudden for censorship so no one can post about these things? Are you now advocating not letting people have a choice in their own lives?

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That test is certainly the camel's nose under the medical privacy tent FOR THOSE THAT CHOOSE IT.

Not me. Not you. Not DT. But other people might make that choice.



So, are you now all of the sudden for censorship so no one can post about these things? Are you now advocating not letting people have a choice in their own lives?

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No. But you have 18 other threads dedicated to the fake virus.

You posted this info in DT's thread about his own health condition.

Seems are really STUPID place to put it.

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if I went into a hospital and they did an antibody test on me, checked my vitals, they would find me to not have covid

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Well - I was out walking during lunch once day with a coworker and came really, really close to passing out. You know - ears ringing, vision grey around the edges etc. And I felt completely unplugged- no steam, high HR. It was the second ambulance ride I ever took in my life (the first was for an asthma attack where I couldn't breathe). Anyway, I got put on a stretcher in a nice cool ER room and infused with 1L of normal saline, and that me good to go. I never would have guessed dehydration. But the warm weather greatly expanded my CVS, which caused my relative blood volume to go down, which created all sorts of havoc. My experience has made me cautious about that.

But if you're convinced - then OK! At least you feel you can rule that out.

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Their antibody tests are far more sensitive than the you-do home one. The brand you used has a really high specificity (it won't call something that's not COVID-19 to be COVID-19; but pretty low sensitivity, it misses about a third of known positives). That's the exact opposite of what you want in a screening test. where you want to catch as many positives as possible, even at the cost of false positives. Those positives can then be retested as a VASTLY reduced population, with a more specific test to weed out the false positives from the true positives.

Anyway, the test called for repeat testing 3 days later. Given the weakness of the test - insensitivity - I'd say a negative isn't necessarily a negative, but a positive is almost surely a positive.

Also, I haven't looked into the technology. Given that it's an ANTIBODY test, and that the antibody one finds in abundance on mucous membranes is IgA, I'm guessing (but it's only a guess) that it tests for IgA. But a substantial portion of the population has no detectable IgA (for many reasons, I won't go into that unless you want me to). Based on at least 3 stacked ifs !!!, it's possible you would never test positive for COVID-19 with that test.

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Just in general - when bedside monitoring ppl for occult internal bleeding, HR is used as a casual indicator. An increased HR by ~10 BPM going from lying down to sitting is considered an indication of low blood volume (as would happen with internal occult bleeding), as is an increase of ~10BPM going from sitting to standing. So you're right at the cusp of having indications of low blood volume with change in posture. Obviously you don't think you're bleeding internally! But if could mean your body isn't responding to blood pooling on standing appropriately.

When it comes to PI% it's a little trickier. There are so many signals that affect peripheral circulation, including temperature. A quick and dirty test is to lightly press on a fingernail and let go. As you press on it, it bleaches out because you've squeezed the blood out of it. When you let go it should pink-up rapidly as the blood refills it. That way you know at least your circulation to your fingers is good. But again, a lot of things affect peripheral circulation.

I just want to point out that O-sats (O2 saturation) is a really good indicator of lung condition specifically. Your lungs are where gas exchange takes place, and if that's impaired your O-sats go down. If you O-sats are good, at least your lungs are in good shape. If they go down, it may mean that your lungs are bad (or that you're simply not breathing a normal rate and depth).



Except for 'happy hypoxics', your best detector is how you feel. If you feel OK, and your O-sats are OK, you're probably OK. If you feel awful, you're probably not doing so well.


And I get that a lot of symptoms that we associate with illness are really cytokines (distinct from antibodies) running through us, raising our temps, giving us headaches, and so on. But not all symptoms are cytokine-caused. Headaches can have other causes, for example.

Anyway, this is about enough for me for today!


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Just in general - when bedside monitoring ppl for occult internal bleeding, HR is used as a casual indicator. An increased HR by ~10 BPM going from lying down to sitting is considered an indication of low blood volume (as would happen with internal occult bleeding), as is an increase of ~10BPM going from sitting to standing. So you're right at the cusp of having indications of low blood volume with change in posture. Obviously you don't think you're bleeding internally! But if could mean your body isn't responding to blood pooling on standing appropriately.

When it comes to PI% it's a little trickier. There are so many signals that affect peripheral circulation, including temperature. A quick and dirty test is to lightly press on a fingernail and let go. As you press on it, it bleaches out because you've squeezed the blood out of it. When you let go it should pink-up rapidly as the blood refills it. That way you know at least your circulation to your fingers is good. But again, a lot of things affect peripheral circulation.

I just want to point out that O-sats (O2 saturation) is a really good indicator of lung condition specifically. Your lungs are where gas exchange takes place, and if that's impaired your O-sats go down. If you O-sats are good, at least your lungs are in good shape. If they go down, it may mean that your lungs are bad (or that you're simply not breathing a normal rate and depth).



Except for 'happy hypoxics', your best detector is how you feel. If you feel OK, and your O-sats are OK, you're probably OK. If you feel awful, you're probably not doing so well.


And I get that a lot of symptoms that we associate with illness are really cytokines (distinct from antibodies) running through us, raising our temps, giving us headaches, and so on. But not all symptoms are cytokine-caused. Headaches can have other causes, for example.

Anyway, this is about enough for me for today!


I hope you improve soon.

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Happy to hear that you are not getting worse and might be getting better.

When I was trying to recover, I did use Boost, a vitamin and mineral supplement without all the extra garbage (use the one labeled "original" only).

Because I didn't know what I had, I also did chicken noodle soup, and to settle the stomach saltine crackers and 7-Up.

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thanks, but alas, not the culprit in this case. Hyponatremia a conditional I already have and treat. But thanks

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Happy to hear that you are not getting worse and might be getting better.

When I was trying to recover, I did use Boost, a vitamin and mineral supplement without all the extra garbage (use the one labeled "original" only).

Because I didn't know what I had, I also did chicken noodle soup, and to settle the stomach saltine crackers and 7-Up.

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Boost I probably actually have some of

I'm allergic to chicken, and 7up probably also not going to help. but I should try some boost

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In the OP of the Vaxtard thread, you mentioned inflammation.

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You'll be fine dude. Sleep it off.

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Covid affects your sense of smell. It's probably not you, just your olfactory patches.

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Covid affects your sense of smell. It's probably not you, just your olfactory patches



DREAMTROVE : lol

Yeah, I read the fact check. I mean, I'd love that to be true except that it would make my life suck.

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DEAMTROVE: Problem is, I smelled the zombies before I ever got sick. So did everyone else. We talked about it. One of my friends made guesses on who was vaxed by the smell alone and then asked people
Also, my bed smelled of zombie. I remade it, and got rid of the zombie smell, and then slept in it, and it smelled of zombie again.
I'm a zombie. I'd love that syncytin 2-nonenal test now, but I have to invent it first, and people also need to fund it, so I need to make myself some millions. I probably have a very short time to do it in.

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fatty green waxy cucumber melon
Fatty, green, waxy and vegetative with cucumber-melon, cereal notes and a chicken fat nuance

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Fatty, green, melon, waxy, vegetative, tomato and mushroom with chicken nuances

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Given that it’s ["old people smell"] real, is it something we need to address beyond scolding the young that “old people smell” is an offensive descriptor? Maybe not. A 2012 Swedish study found that seniors’ body odors were the least offensive of any age group.

That said, they may forebear other changes that do warrant attention. For example, many women experience body odor changes during menopause. Hot flashes and night sweat during menopause cause excessive perspiration and increased fatty acids, resulting in Nonenal. And that old bugaboo, stress, can exacerbate the production of Nonenal in both women and men.

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and now everything tastes like zombie. I go downstairs have a bowl of zombie guts, then drink my morning zombie blood and eat my brainamon roll, and everything smells like zombie also. can't even clean it off.

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