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Friday, August 6, 2021 7:05 PM

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Commerce Chief Threatened Firings at NOAA After Trump’s Hurricane Tweets, Sources Say

WASHINGTON — The Secretary of Commerce threatened to fire top employees at NOAA on Friday after the agency’s Birmingham office contradicted President Trump’s claim that Hurricane Dorian might hit Alabama, according to three people familiar with the discussion.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/commerce-chief-threatened-firi
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Please, lets hold elections now so we can start draining the swamp. These people are real pieces of shit.

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The world’s top climate scientists have a new warning for Washington

The latest warning is set to arrive Monday from the United Nation's premier climate science panel, whose findings land as wildfires ravage the West, droughts squeeze U.S. farmers, and heatwaves force power companies to ration supplies — and portend even more calamitous events in the coming decades. The document will be the sixth major report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a group consisting of the world’s leading climate scientists.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-world-s-top-climate-scient
ists-have-a-new-warning-for-washington/ar-AAN1D4k?ocid=msedgntp


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Friday, September 3, 2021 5:03 PM

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Better harp on the climate.

Biden* and the Democrat midterm prospects are in freefall right now.

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Monday, September 6, 2021 9:39 AM

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Can we clean up the mess we've created? We have to do it now, or face extinction

The IPCC recently issued a "code red for humanity" about climate change, as the UN Secretary-General António Guterres put it, adding that "the alarm bells are deafening." Last year was the second warmest on record, and of the warmest 21 years, 20 have occurred since 2000.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/can-we-clean-up-the-mess-we-ve-
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Monday, September 6, 2021 10:08 AM

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You're going to die of Covid anyways. Who cares?

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Friday, September 10, 2021 9:58 AM

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Friday, September 10, 2021 10:55 AM

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Yeah Ted.

When Waterworld becomes our reality, you can say I told you so.

But we all know that if our way of life ever fell apart you'd be one of the first to die, so don't sweat it.

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Friday, September 10, 2021 11:16 AM

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Don't worry dude. I just found out that Biden* is going to make sure that by 2020 all of our electricity is zero emissions.



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Monday, October 25, 2021 10:15 AM

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Sen. Manchin's inaction on climate change is the real 'fiscal insanity'

West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin has in recent weeks dubbed the proposed social safety net spending in the reconciliation bill currently being discussed in Congress as "reckless" and "fiscal insanity." However, when it comes to climate change, the true insanity is ignoring the brutal fiscal reality that our nation will face if we don't make serious investments now to stave off the worst of global warming and make American communities and the economy resilient to climate-fueled extreme weather.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/opinion-sen-manchin-s-inaction-on-cl
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Monday, October 25, 2021 10:30 AM

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Sen. Manchin's inaction on climate change is the real 'fiscal insanity'

West Virginia Senators from both parties have blocked lower CO2 for decades - the historic roadblock to US climate policy. Here are the reasons why:
https://web.archive.org/web/20211023182308/https://adamtooze.substack.
com/p/chartbook-46-west-virginia-the-historic


It is possible to get W.V. Senators to vote for lower CO2, but it would require throwing $billions at the state every year to bribe the Senators and, especially, their voters. But that won't work because other states' Senators would want the same bribes, and because those states have far larger populations of voters, the cost of bribery would be far more expensive than in W.V. and, therefore, won't pass.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, October 25, 2021 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
Sen. Manchin's inaction on climate change is the real 'fiscal insanity'

West Virginia Senators from both parties have blocked lower CO2 for decades - the historic roadblock to US climate policy. Here are the reasons why:
https://web.archive.org/web/20211023182308/https://adamtooze.substack.
com/p/chartbook-46-west-virginia-the-historic


It is possible to get W.V. Senators to vote for lower CO2, but it would require throwing $billions at the state every year to bribe the Senators and, especially, their voters. But that won't work because other states' Senators would want the same bribes, and because those states have far larger populations of voters, the cost of bribery would be far more expensive than in W.V. and, therefore, won't pass.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two





I would suggest the point here is that 99% of democrats would vote for the Biden climate change legislation with zero republicans willing to do so.

That says it all. And its always been this way. Nothing left to discuss.

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Monday, October 25, 2021 11:02 AM

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I would suggest the point here is that 99% of democrats would vote for the Biden climate change legislation with zero republicans willing to do so.

That says it all. And its always been this way. Nothing left to discuss.



Winter bills haven't come yet.

Get back to us in January with your fake poll you just pulled out of your ass when Biden* sticker shock sets in.



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Monday, October 25, 2021 11:04 AM

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I would suggest the point here is that 99% of democrats would vote for the Biden climate change legislation with zero republicans willing to do so.

That says it all. And its always been this way. Nothing left to discuss.

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There is an awfully simple reason why humanity does not advance very fast, even though humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. This is too crudely stated, but most humans operate on the same level as animals needing carrots and sticks to motivate them. They lack enough imagination or knowledge to be moved by anything else.

While our ancestors have been around for about six million years, the modern form of humans evolved about 200,000 years ago. Civilization as we know it is only about 6,000 years old, and industrialization started in the earnest only in the 1800s. Most humans have not yet imagined the need to dispose of the CO2 from their engines in the same way as they dispose of sewage, another waste that costs $trillions every year to build infrastructure and operate the disposal. Imagine how messy the world would be without sewers. The world is headed for a bigger mess unless it learns how to handle its CO2. But don't expect many people, of either party, to understand and they certainly won't pay unless the world is burning down. They didn't pay for sewers until the world was stinking to high heaven and people were dying by the thousands from disease carried by dirty water.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, October 25, 2021 11:43 AM

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I would suggest the point here is that 99% of democrats would vote for the Biden climate change legislation with zero republicans willing to do so.

That says it all. And its always been this way. Nothing left to discuss.

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There is an awfully simple reason why humanity does not advance very fast, even though humans have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. This is too crudely stated, but most humans operate on the same level as animals needing carrots and sticks to motivate them. They lack enough imagination or knowledge to be moved by anything else.

While our ancestors have been around for about six million years, the modern form of humans evolved about 200,000 years ago. Civilization as we know it is only about 6,000 years old, and industrialization started in the earnest only in the 1800s. Most humans have not yet imagined the need to dispose of the CO2 from their engines in the same way as they dispose of sewage, another waste that costs $trillions every year to build infrastructure and operate the disposal. Imagine how messy the world would be without sewers. The world is headed for a bigger mess unless it learns how to handle its CO2. But don't expect many people, of either party, to understand and they certainly won't pay unless the world is burning down. They didn't pay for sewers until the world was stinking to high heaven and people were dying by the thousands from disease carried by dirty water.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two





I don't disagree...

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Monday, October 25, 2021 3:46 PM

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It is not just America's Republican Senators plus Sen. Joe Manchin (W.V. Democrat) who won't properly dispose of CO2 waste. Every country has their version of Joe Manchin: Not one single country on earth is willing to stop extracting fossil fuels.

There is literally not a single country willing to leave fossil fuels in the ground if that requires even a minor economic sacrifice. Not one. Put bluntly, this means that no country has any standing to criticize any other. Every single country on earth either (a) has no fossil fuel reserves, or (b) is committed to extracting every last dram of it.

More at https://jabberwocking.com/not-one-single-country-on-earth-is-willing-t
o-stop-extracting-fossil-fuels
/

Even during a massive recession, CO2 emissions increased in 2020. Why should we think that the coming decade will be any different? When will we finally admit that our current approach is hopeless and we need to try something different?
Some nice graphs of atmospheric CO2 at https://jabberwocking.com/even-during-a-massive-recession-co2-emission
s-increased-in-2020
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Monday, October 25, 2021 3:54 PM

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Yup.

It's really easy to blame big bad Orange Man for the weather.

But once those Democrat winter bills hit home, Democrats are done.

Any of them being reelected before the first winter bill hits is getting lucky. November 2022 isn't going to be so kind.

Especially since unemployment stopped in September and that eviction moratorium has just about puttered out.




Though I don't suppose you're going to be too worried about heating bills when you're out in the snow.

And I'm sure that those homeless Joe Biden* voters are going to be happy knowing that all of the illegal aliens currently invading our country and Biden*'s 100,000 Afghan Terrorists he's relocating at $67,000 per person are getting housed and fed. Maybe remembering that's what they voted for will keep them warm at night?


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Monday, October 25, 2021 4:12 PM

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Yup.

It's really easy to blame big bad Orange Man for the weather.

But once those Democrat winter bills hit home, Democrats are done.

Any of them being reelected before the first winter bill hits is getting lucky. November 2022 isn't going to be so kind.

Especially since unemployment stopped in September and that eviction moratorium has just about puttered out.

When energy prices go up while Republicans are in control, then voters will flip back to Democrat. Most voters do NOT understand, probably will never understand that the top 1% control the prices of everything, while the Federal government controls the prices of nothing. Well, the Federal government has controlled prices during wartime because the government didn't want to lose WWII just because the richest 1% were greedily raising prices as fast as possible. But government is not controlling prices now since the government doesn't see global warming is a danger as big as Hitler.

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Monday, October 25, 2021 4:13 PM

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When energy prices go up while Republicans are in control, then voters will flip back to Democrat.



Oh. You're arguing an event that's never happened in any of our lifetimes?

Okay then. LOL



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Monday, October 25, 2021 4:59 PM

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When energy prices go up while Republicans are in control, then voters will flip back to Democrat.



Oh. You're arguing an event that's never happened in any of our lifetimes?

Okay then. LOL

Per usual, you can't remember or your life restarted from zero 13 years ago:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=Id3f


Who Is To Blame For Rising Gasoline Prices?
On a daily basis I see accusations on social media that this price rise is a consequence of Joe Biden winning the presidential election. I am going to explain why this is ludicrous
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2021/03/06/who-is-to-blame-for-ri
sing-gasoline-prices/?sh=25e810df329c


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Monday, October 25, 2021 6:03 PM

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lol

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Monday, October 25, 2021 7:34 PM

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lol

It is laughable that you can't understand the graph showing high prices for gasoline in the 8th year of Bush, a Republican President, who had zero control over prices, the same lack of control as any other President during Peacetime.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=Id3f


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Monday, October 25, 2021 10:46 PM

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lol

It is laughable that you can't understand the graph showing high prices for gasoline in the 8th year of Bush, a Republican President, who had zero control over prices, the same lack of control as any other President during Peacetime.




That didn't have anything to do with the housing market bubble bursting after years of ACORN bad mortgages brought to you exclusively by the Clintons and Democrats.

No siree.

lol

Shut up tool. Go find a website that stupid people post on if you ever once in your life want to win an online argument. Because it's not happening here.




Oh... P.S. How'd that rise in gas prices and the economy crashing after the bubble burst work out for McCain and the Republicans in the Senate and the House in November of 2008?

Need a reminder?

No. I don't suppose you do.

Sleep on that while you watch what's happening to American's pocketbooks from every angle under Joe*'s leadership.



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Tuesday, October 26, 2021 10:16 AM

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That didn't have anything to do with the housing market bubble bursting after years of ACORN bad mortgages brought to you exclusively by the Clintons and Democrats.

No siree.

lol

Shut up tool.

I know where you got this idea, even if you never heard of the Competitive Enterprise Institute. CEI's phony-baloney version of reality: https://cei.org/blog/how-acorn-destroyed-the-housing-market/

The Competitive Enterprise Institute (CEI) is a advocacy group based in Washington DC with long ties to tobacco disinformation campaigns and more recently to climate change denial.
https://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Competitive_Enterprise_Institute

The real story is NOT CEI's fake version of reality: The 2007–2008 Financial Crisis in Review
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/economics/09/financial-crisis-re
view.asp


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USDA Scientist Quits, Claims Trump Administration Tried To Bury His Climate Study

A top climate scientist at the U.S. Department of Agriculture has resigned in protest of what he describes as the Trump administration’s efforts to censor and suppress climate science.

In a Politico article published Monday, Lewis Ziska, a plant physiologist with more than two decades of experience working for USDA’s Agricultural Research Service, said he decided to quit after department officials tried to bury a paper he wrote on how rice is losing nutrients because of rising levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.




I wish these decent people would stop QUITTING. I know, hard, maybe even wrong for me to judge, but it sure seems like a lot of them just walk away.



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USDA Scientist Quits, Claims Trump Administration Tried To Bury His Climate Study

A top climate scientist at the U.S. Department of Agriculture has resigned in protest of what he describes as the Trump administration’s efforts to censor and suppress climate science.

In a Politico article published Monday, Lewis Ziska, a plant physiologist with more than two decades of experience working for USDA’s Agricultural Research Service, said he decided to quit after department officials tried to bury a paper he wrote on how rice is losing nutrients because of rising levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/usda-scientist-quits-claims-trump-ad
ministration-tried-to-bury-his-climate-study/ar-AAFnNNn?ocid=spartandhp


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USDA Scientist Quits, Claims Trump Administration Tried To Bury His Climate Study

A top climate scientist at the U.S. Department of Agriculture has resigned in protest of what he describes as the Trump administration’s efforts to censor and suppress climate science.

In a Politico article published Monday, Lewis Ziska, a plant physiologist with more than two decades of experience working for USDA’s Agricultural Research Service, said he decided to quit after department officials tried to bury a paper he wrote on how rice is losing nutrients because of rising levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/usda-scientist-quits-claims-trump-ad
ministration-tried-to-bury-his-climate-study/ar-AAFnNNn?ocid=spartandhp


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He did it once, he'll do it again.

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