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Have we really won the culture wars?

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Thursday, January 2, 2025 08:53
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Wednesday, January 1, 2025 5:31 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


A majority have spoken about transgender/ Wakanda-ist/ femtacular nonsense, and what they said is "ENOUGH".

But there's one thing I know about TPTB: they never give up. Every wave of nonsense, even if it recedes, pushes society just a little farther to disintegration. And every "crisis", real, faked, or exaggerated, will be taken advantage of to push their agenda farther.

It's not enough to be against something. If all we do is react 180 deg away from howver were being pushed, we'll be controlled just as much as if we were obedient droids. We have to posit something, and that means- among other things- achieving a deep understanding of where we're being pushed in unobvious ways.

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Wednesday, January 1, 2025 5:49 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I find it interesting that Ted and Second (ie: The Media) are trying to paint the public discourse going on over visas to be a bad thing or an "I told you so" moment.

Yeah... There's arguing. But there's dialog.


Joe Biden*, Kamala Harris and any other politician from the Left wouldn't speak to anybody. They even used that idiot KJP to hide everything from the press, and spent the last 4 years giving non-answers to every question. Anybody who has a problem with anything they say or that they're doing is an evil racist. None of them admit to being wrong about how bad Joe Biden*'s brain was. None of them admit to being wrong about them couping Biden* and anointing Harris. Everything they do and say is always right.

But in reality, I expect there to be arguments. Because this isn't a cult. Ya dig?


I'm wondering how many people that voted for both Joe Biden* and Kamala Harris had a problem with boys playing in girls sports and tranny clown shows reading to kindergarteners and didn't say a fucking thing about it to anybody, not even their friends and family, for fear of being kicked out of the cult. I know it's a hell of a lot more than ZERO, even though ZERO is the number of Democrats or Democrat voters we ever heard speak up about it. Oh right... Bill Maher. Bill Maher was the only Democrat speaking up about it.

There's nothing but soy cucks and cat ladies on the Left. More booster shots please. Nom. Nom. Nom.

Ted and Second have just never seen men take care of business before in their lives. Just a couple of little beta boys doing exactly what they're told.

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Wednesday, January 1, 2025 7:45 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Neo-Leftwings were typically united in their dislike / hatred of the right...they see Bush junior, Romney, Trump, McCain as all the one evil-ish War In Iraq voice when the 'Republicans' at times can have a variety of opinion.
the New-Democrat party became such an echo chamber that RFK jr and Tulsi quit


but you still only have 2 parties


No Ross Perot style presidential campaign, its all fixed now


the 2 party system killed culture, it became a stage show soap opera or like cheering for sports rivals while expecting the game to change

In the end of it all you have two parties and even if you think one is coming around to the side of Freedom and Liberty you always had so many within the Republican that worked with the Deep State Uniparty types
and so many in the Left that don't care for Liberty nor would they care for Democracy.


the Republican gang is a fragmented mess and so many 'Never Trumpers' and you got Lindsey Graham homosexual Israel First Sharia Law type says don't offended the islamic texts, Cuckservative open border Romney types, Herschel Walker Domestic violence allegations, Sarah crazy Palin, Chris Christie, George Pataki, Carly Fiorina, Liz Cheney, the Rockefeller dynasty, family dynasty of Jeb Bush, weather man Mark Ronchetti, Kristina Karamo says the Capitol attack was Q-Anon mind control false flag, Geoff Diehl no gasoline taxes, Steve Chabot creationist who wanted to impeach Clinton, Leora Levy the Prescott Bush Award but Richard Blumenthal wins the Mid Terms, Mike Johson creationist who voiced support for BLM riots and blames his adopted Black Son's crimes on Whites. There is Jim Marchant other failed candidates often been linked to QAnon, Republican state senator T. J. Shope described Finchem as a "political gadfly" Finchem was Arizona coordinator of the Coalition of Western States (COWS), a group founded by Washington state representative Matt Shea and Finchem has a telegram account often describing himself as combating the "Soros machine". Then you have Adam Laxalt another dynasty DUI or DWIs, Blake Masters he backs Trump and Trump backs him but he also likes 'Conspiracy' there are a whole bunch of Jewish groups that don't like him
and with these back stabbing freaks on your side you think you will win a 'Maga' culture war?


Some within the Republican party call themselves Reagan Republicans and say Donald Trump continuously refers to the “real Republicans” as the Rinos.


He's a man, Trump a flawed man, so why are people starting to worship him like a stars aligned conspiracy a Caesar prophecy who will save Rome and Washington or people almsot pray and worship Trump like a religious Moses or a Buddha type character?

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Thursday, January 2, 2025 4:51 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I think to some extent the discussion is too narrow.

This is more like what I wonder about


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Read Between the Lies: A Pattern Recognition Guide
By Josh-StylmanJosh Stylman December 31, 2024 Education, Media 8 minute read


When Avril Haines, Director of National Intelligence, announced during Event 201’s pandemic drill in 2019 that they would “flood the zone with trusted sources,” few understood this preview of coordinated narrative control. Within months, we watched it unfold in real time—unified messaging across all platforms, suppression of dissent, and coordinated narrative control that fooled much of the world.

But not everyone stayed fooled forever. Some saw through it immediately, questioning every aspect from day one. Others thought it was just incompetent government trying to protect us. Many initially accepted the precautionary principle—better safe than sorry. But as each policy failure pointed in the same direction—toward more control and less human agency—the pattern became impossible to ignore. Anyone not completely subsumed by the system eventually had to confront its true purpose: not protecting health or safety, but expanding control.

Once you recognize this pattern of deception, two questions should immediately arise whenever major stories dominate headlines: “What are they lying about?” and “What are they distracting us from?” The pattern of coordinated deception becomes unmistakable. Consider how media outlets spent three years pushing Russiagate conspiracies, driving unprecedented social division while laying the groundwork for what would become the greatest psychological operation in history. Today, while the media floods us with Ukraine coverage, BlackRock positions itself to profit from both the destruction and reconstruction. The pattern becomes unmistakable once you see it—manufactured crises driving pre-planned “solutions” that always expand institutional control.

Mainstream media operates on twin deceptions: misdirection and manipulation. The same anchors who sold us WMDs in Iraq, promoted “Russia collusion,” and insisted Hunter Biden’s laptop was “Russian disinformation” still occupy prime time slots. Just as we see with RFK, Jr.’s HHS nomination, the pattern is consistent: coordinated attacks replace substantive debate, identical talking points appear across networks, and legitimate questions are dismissed through character assassination rather than evidence. Being consistently wrong isn’t a bug—it’s a feature. Their role isn’t to inform but to manufacture consent.

The template is consistent: Saturate media with emotional spectacles while advancing institutional agendas with minimal scrutiny.

Like the kerfuffle over LGBTQX2+ or whatever.

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Like learning to spot a fake smile or hearing a false note in music, you develop an instinct for the timing:

Money and Power:

While the media fixated on January 6th, BlackRock and Vanguard quietly tightened their grip on the residential real estate market
While coverage obsessed over Trump’s Twitter ban, Congress passed the largest upward transfer of wealth under cover of “Covid relief“
While breathless reporting tracked every move of the Johnny Depp trial, the Fed printed more money than in the entire previous century
While media flooded us with Ukraine coverage, unprecedented restrictions on energy production reshaped the global economy
While reporters breathlessly tracked Trump indictments, central banks accelerated plans for programmable digital currency

Medical Control:

While media focused on celebrity vaccine promotion, unprecedented numbers of young athletes collapsed on field
While networks ran wall-to-wall coverage of school shootings, documents revealed Pfizer knew about hundreds of side effects
While coverage fixated on anti-vax “misinformation,” insurance data showed alarming excess death rates

Digital Control:

While media obsessed over Twitter content moderation, digital ID infrastructure was quietly built worldwide
While coverage focused on TikTok privacy concerns, central banks accelerated digital currency development
While endless AI chatbot debates dominated headlines, biometric surveillance systems expanded globally

As these deceptions become more obvious, different forms of resistance emerge. The truth-seeking takes different forms. Some become deep experts in specific deceptions—documenting early treatment successes with repurposed drugs, uncovering hospital protocol failures, or exploring the impact of vaccine injuries. Others develop a broader lens for seeing how narratives themselves are engineered.

Walter Kirn’s brilliant pattern recognition cuts to the heart of our manufactured reality. His tweets dissecting the United CEO murder coverage expose how even violent crimes are now packaged as entertainment spectacles, complete with character arcs and narrative twists. Kirn’s insight highlights a critical dimension of media control: by turning every crisis into an entertainment narrative, they divert attention from deeper questions. Instead of asking why institutional safeguards fail or who benefits, audiences become captivated by carefully scripted outrage. This deliberate distraction ensures that institutional agendas move forward without scrutiny.

His insight reveals how entertainment packaging serves the broader control system. While each investigation requires its own expertise, this pattern of narrative manipulation connects to a larger grid of deception. As I’ve explored in “The Information Factory” and “Engineering Reality,” everything from education to medicine to currency itself has been captured by systems designed to shape not just our choices, but our very perception of reality.

Most revealing is what they don’t cover. Notice how quickly stories disappear when they threaten institutional interests. Remember the Epstein client list? The Maui land grab? The mounting vaccine injuries? The silence speaks volumes.

Consider the recent whistleblower testimonies revealing suppressed safety concerns at Boeing, a company long entangled with regulatory agencies and government contracts. Two whistleblowers—both former employees who raised alarms about safety issues—died under suspicious circumstances. Coverage of their deaths disappeared almost overnight, despite the profound implications for public safety and corporate accountability. This pattern repeats in countless cases where accountability would disrupt entrenched power structures, leaving crucial questions unanswered and narratives tightly controlled.

These decisions aren’t accidental—they result from media ownership, advertiser influence, and government pressure, ensuring the narrative remains tightly controlled.

But perhaps most striking isn’t the media’s deception itself, but how thoroughly it shapes its consumers’ reality. Watch how confidently they repeat phrases clearly engineered in think tanks. Listen as they parrot talking points with religious conviction: “January 6th was worse than 9/11,” “Trust The Science™,” “Democracy is on the ballot” and, perhaps the most consequential lie in modern history, “Safe and Effective.”

The professional-managerial class proves especially susceptible to this programming. Their expertise becomes a prison of status—the more they’ve invested in institutional approval, the more fervently they defend institutional narratives. Watch how quickly a doctor who questions vaccine safety loses his license, how swiftly a professor questioning gender ideology faces review, how rapidly a journalist stepping out of line gets blacklisted.

The system ensures compliance through economic capture: your mortgage becomes your leash, your professional status your prison guard. The same lawyers who prides themselves on critical thinking will aggressively shut down any questioning of official narratives. The professor who teaches “questioning power structures” becomes apoplectic when students question pharmaceutical companies.

The circular validation makes the programming nearly impenetrable:

Media cites “experts”
Experts cite peer-reviewed studies
Studies are funded by industry
Industry shapes media coverage
“Fact-checkers” cite media consensus
Academia enforces approved conclusions

This self-reinforcing system forms a perfect closed loop:

Each component validates the others while excluding outside information. Try finding the entry point for actual truth in this closed system. The professional class’s pride in their critical thinking becomes darkly ironic—they’ve simply outsourced their opinions to “authoritative sources.”

Most disturbing is how willingly they’ve surrendered their sovereignty. Watch them defer:

“I follow the science” (translation: I wait for approved conclusions)
“According to experts” (translation: I don’t think for myself)
“Fact-checkers say” (translation: I let others determine truth)
“The consensus is” (translation: I align with power)

Their empathy becomes a weapon used against them. Question lockdowns? You’re killing grandma. Doubt transition surgery for minors? You’re causing suicides. Resist equity initiatives? You’re perpetuating oppression. The programming works by making resistance feel like cruelty.

Something remarkable is happening beneath the surface noise: a genuine awakening that defies traditional political boundaries. You see it in the subtle exchanges between colleagues when official narratives strain credibility. In the growing silence at dinner parties as propaganda talking points fall flat. In the knowing looks between strangers when public health theatre reaches new heights of absurdity.

This isn’t a movement in the traditional sense—it can’t be, since traditional movement structures are vulnerable to infiltration, subversion, and capture. Instead, it’s more like a spontaneous emergence of pattern recognition.

I wish it was that deep, but it's not. It's just an automatic rejection of bullshit that's become so extreme you'd have to be brain dead not to notice. But we are hostage to lack of info. Do we really know what BlackRock is doing, or how drones, AI, and facial recognition are furthering our surveillance state? Whatever happened to that ginormous server in Utah, BTW??? We suffer from GIGO syndrome: most everything weretold by the MSM is a lie, or grossly incomplete. You can't come to good conclusions without good info.

To some extent, "woke" is a distraction, and "winning" over woke is also a distraction.

The same thing happened over the Vietnam War. Instead od being against ALL USA wars of choice, once the threat of the draft was over, many of that generation decided to become doctors, lawyers, and dentists, diving headfirst into the system they claimed to be against.

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A distributed awakening without central leadership or formal organization. Those who see through the patterns recognize the mass formation for what it is, while its subjects project their own programming onto others, dismissing pattern recognition as “conspiracy theories,” “anti-science,” or other reflexive labels designed to prevent genuine examination.

The hardest truth isn’t recognizing the programming—it’s confronting what it means for human consciousness and society itself. We’re watching real-time evidence that most human minds can be captured and redirected through sophisticated psychological operations. Their thoughts aren’t their own, yet they’d die defending what they’ve been programmed to believe.

This isn’t just media criticism anymore—it’s an existential question about human consciousness and free will. What does it mean when a species’ capacity for independent thought can be so thoroughly hijacked? When natural empathy and moral instincts become weapons of control? When education and expertise actually decrease resistance to programming?

The programming works because it hijacks core human drives:

The need for social acceptance (e.g., masking as a visible symbol of conformity)
The desire to be seen as good/moral (e.g., adopting performative stances on social issues without deeper understanding)
The instinct to trust authority (e.g., faith in public health officials despite repeated policy reversals)
The fear of ostracism (e.g., avoiding dissent to maintain social harmony)
The comfort of conformity (e.g., parroting narratives to avoid cognitive dissonance)
The addiction to status (e.g., signaling compliance to maintain professional or social standing)

Each natural human trait becomes a vulnerability to be exploited. The most educated become the most programmable because their status addiction runs deepest. Their “critical thinking” becomes a script running on corrupted hardware.

This is the core challenge of our time: Can human consciousness evolve faster than the systems designed to hijack it? Can pattern recognition and awareness spread faster than manufactured consensus? Can enough people learn to read between the lies before the programming becomes complete?

The stakes could not be higher. This isn’t just about politics or media literacy—it’s about the future of human consciousness itself. Whether our species maintains the capacity for independent thought may depend on those who can still access it helping others break free from the spell.

The matrix of control deepens daily, but so does the awakening.

The question is: Which spreads faster—the programming or the awareness of it? Our future as a species may depend on the answer.



https://brownstone.org/articles/read-between-the-lies-a-pattern-recogn
ition-guide
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There is something that causes societies to re-direct, and that is REALITY. A society that veers too far into ideological delusion ultimately implodes.



I think if we want to use a shitscreen to filter out the crap we're bombarded with every day, I think the filter should be SURVIVAL. Long term survival of ourselves, our societies, and -ultimately -of our species. That goal, and how we can achieve it, is the truest test of the reliability of certain ideas and trends.

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Thursday, January 2, 2025 6:37 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
He's a man, Trump a flawed man, so why are people starting to worship him like a stars aligned conspiracy a Caesar prophecy who will save Rome and Washington or people almsot pray and worship Trump like a religious Moses or a Buddha type character?



Nobody is doing this. Not one single person.

Where the fuck are you getting your news from?

You show me videos of people getting on their knees and praying to Trump or that's the end of this conversation.



Sorry Sigs.

I expect this bullshit out of Second and Ted, but I had to say something when I read this out of Jaynez.

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Thursday, January 2, 2025 7:32 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


He said he would take on the Deep State, drain the Swamp...it never happened


Said he would fight BigTech...said 'Tikky Tok' stuff a few times and then BigTech the Youtuber Admins the Facebooks the Snapchats all of Tech basically ban him
oh but he will take on and expose the islamists the jihads within the USA, Pakistan still getting weapons after hiding bin Laden, Saudi still having influence and parts of the 911 attacks and JFK files still not exposed
...Assange, forget it! it was under Biden he got some kind of freedom.

there are too many things he said he will do that he never done...I still class him as a politician and typical narcissist with a huge ego. Zion-Don has been playing a game, he did so much for Kushner and Israel while Kushner and Benjamin Bibi Netanyahu stab him in the back

Said he would build a wall, it never got done
this was while Republicans controlled BOTH House and Senate



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You think he doesn't play the Apotheosis, Caesar, religion game? Just look at the AlexJonestwon Jacob Chansley bunch...the thing about slowly getting brainwashed into the Hopium and the Religion cult, is it is impossible for people to admit they are in it or too embarrassing to admit they got played and fooled

Trump is a populist but like Obama and Bush before him there are 'Cult' elements to his following, looking for the savior of America.
Extreme obsessiveness with a group or leader
Any criticism or questioning is characterized as persecution... a faimly 'us' and we vs 'them'


Q-Anon banned from the web and then really banned from the net after Trump lost but still alive
https://beyond-the-fringe.org/showthread.php?tid=15775&page=1965
thousands of pages of mostly nonsense

remember the thousands upon thousands at rally follow Q Drops

'and frogs to destroy them.
Q'
https://qanon.pub/#3971


43.4K followers

https://rumble.com/v6505d7-derek-johnson-situation-update-01.01.25-wwg
1wga-2025-maga-trump-inauguratio.html


Q-Anon might be mostly broken and scattered but its still out there

Twitter Reinstates QAnon Kingpin Ron Watkins
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/ron-watkins-qanon-
kingpin-reinstated-twitter-1234658363
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posting his UFO Drone stuff

https://x.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1868492812146057313

and not that I disagree with all of it

I think when the Maga 'Q' people question the vaccines or talk about 'pizzagate' there might be some truth to the rumors

but call out a cult when you see it

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Thursday, January 2, 2025 8:53 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


So what? There's going to be a cult-like following to some degree no matter who gets voted in as President on either side from here on out. That's just the state of things now. Obama was a cult leader. Biden* wasn't, but he was voted in by the Anti-Trump cult which was just an extension of the Obama cult.

Trump's the only person telling the American People what they want to hear. Now we'll get to see if he does any of it or not. He was stonewalled on everything the first time around. Will he be able to do it this time.

Don't pretend you don't understand American politics now. The President isn't a dictator and can't do everything they want. And, SPOILER ALERT: Every politician that ever ran for any office in any current or former US Political Party lied and made promises that they'd never be able to deliver on. Every. Single. One.

I'm getting a little fucking tired of your blackpilled bullshit on the issue right about now, friend. Trump isn't even President for another 18 days.

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