REAL WORLD EVENT DISCUSSIONS

Bank of America announces zero down payment, zero closing cost mortgages for Black and Hispanic first-time homebuyers

POSTED BY: 6IXSTRINGJACK
UPDATED: Friday, October 6, 2023 13:47
SHORT URL:
VIEWED: 759
PAGE 1 of 1

Thursday, September 1, 2022 8:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Residents in selected Charlotte, Dallas, Detroit, Los Angeles and Miami neighborhoods will be offered the program first.

https://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/bank-america-zero-down-payme
nt-mortgage-first-time-buyers-details-rcna45662




I'm sure with a thread title like that, you'd expect a Trump supporter like me to call that racism.

Well... you're half right.

It IS undoubtedly racist.

Quote:

The loans require no mortgage insurance — the additional fee typically charged to buyers who put down less than 20% of the purchase price — and no minimum credit score. Instead, eligibility will be based on factors like timely rent payments and on-time utility bill, phone and auto insurance payments. Prospective buyers must also complete a homebuyer certification course provided by Bank of America and federally approved housing counseling partners before they apply for the loan program, the bank said.


But at the end of the day all they're doing here is sticking people who can't afford the higher interest rent payments with those rent payments. Not only that, but who cares that they're not paying the "mortgage insurance" (which isn't actually insurance of any type but an additional higher interest payment on the 20% down that hasn't been put down). With the exception of Detroit, the prices of homes now ESPECIALLY in the neighborhoods they're going to do this have never been higher. The bank is enticing the poor to buy houses at peak prices so all of their initial payments will be frontloaded to the gills with interest payments and they win either way whether the new "owners" can actually pay it off or not.

ACORN did this in the leadup to the 2008 housing market crash. ACORN was dismantled right afterward.

We did some math a while back in this thread:

http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=65196

We went with the average rate "per Google" for an average credit score of 700-719. Today, that rate is 6.762%.

With no money down on a $250,000 house, the total interest after 30 years will be $334,456.37 and the house will cost $584,456.37. With a monthly mortgage payment of $1,623.49.

But according to BoA's page, there isn't any talk at all of what the rate they will be charged is. No mention if they'll get some special racist rate too, or how they'll come up with the rate without looking at credit scores. In my experience, this means that they're going to treat everyone equally as poorly (and a lot of black and Mexican families out there would be better off getting a normal loan with their earned credit score than the high-interest loan they're going to give to everyone when all they're doing is looking at timely rent and utilities payments).

My guess is (unless they give an even worse rate) they'd be getting whatever the interest rate for 620-639 credit scores are getting at the time, which currently is 7.349% today. (There is "no data available" for scores lower than this because typically no bank would ever give a home loan out to scores under 620).

So now, at the worst available rate, with no money down on a $250,000 house, the total interest after 30 years will be $370,013.62 and the house will cost $620,013.62. With a monthly mortgage payment of $1,722.26.



Bank of America's new program somehow manages to be racist to EVERYONE.

Not only is it exclusionary to certain groups because of their skin color, but it is unabashedly exploitative of the color groups they intend to extend it to.

Fuck Bank of America.

And I do hope that any blacks and Mexicans who are being pedaled this trap have some smart friends or somebody in their network who can tell them that they're signing their life away before they do it. Nearly every single one of these loans will end up in a foreclosure.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 1, 2022 9:16 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Oh... and just for comparison's sake:

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
We went with the average rate "per Google" for an average credit score of 700-719. Today, that rate is 6.762%.

With no money down on a $250,000 house, the total interest after 30 years will be $334,456.37 and the house will cost $584,456.37. With a monthly mortgage payment of $1,623.49.

...

My guess is (unless they give an even worse rate) they'd be getting whatever the interest rate for 620-639 credit scores are getting at the time, which currently is 7.349% today. (There is "no data available" for scores lower than this because typically no bank would ever give a home loan out to scores under 620).

So now, at the worst available rate, with no money down on a $250,000 house, the total interest after 30 years will be $370,013.62 and the house will cost $620,013.62. With a monthly mortgage payment of $1,722.26.



From the other thread on August 5th, where we used July's average rate:

Quote:

In December 2021, a 30 year mortgage rate was 2.70%

In July 2022 it was 5.51%

Let's do some math, (You can verify it here https://www.drcalculator.com/mortgage/ ), assuming that the house you own and are looking to sell is appraised at $250,000.

Assuming they make no additional payments in 30 years, somebody who bought your house in December of last year at a rate of 2.70% will find their monthly mortgage will be $912.59. They will end up paying $103,534.07 in interest. The total cost of that $250,000 house you sold will be $328,534.07 for them.

Now, assuming they make no additional payments in 30 years, somebody has 10% down and wants to buy it in July of this year with a 30 year fixed mortgage at 5.51%. For that same house, their monthly mortgage payment will be $1,278.94. They will end up paying $235,417.53 in interest. The total cost of that $250,000 house you sold will be $460,417.43.




If BoA gave a shit about blacks and Mexican's, why didn't they enact this back in December of 2021 when the monthly mortgage would have been $1,013.99 on a no money down $250,000 loan and there would only be $115,037.86 of interest over 30 years?

Or hell... why not rush as many as you could back in July when rates were 5.51% and the monthly mortgage would have been $1,421.04 on a no money down $250,000 loan and there would only be $261,574.92 of interest over 30 years?



No. You wouldn't do that.

You wait until August freakin' 30th to announce a plan that's just going to start to roll out when those mortgage payments will be AT LEAST $1,600 per month on average, knowing full well that the FED has no intention of stopping the rate increases in the future to tamp down inflation.



Common belief in the money markets is that you shouldn't be paying more than 30% of your income on housing (at least until Joe Biden* was President*, of course).

Well in that case, BoA, how many blacks and Mexicans do you suppose are making more than $5k per month that aren't already in a house? And do you think that people who are bringing in over $28/per hour to make that much money need your "help"* with their mortgages?

*No-Money-Down-Trap Mortgages

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 1, 2022 2:01 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

*No-Money-Down-Trap Mortgages

--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus


Carlton Sheets and Tom Vu are doin' doubletakes.

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, September 1, 2022 4:53 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I never got involved with either of them back in the day, but me and a friend went to a banquet hall to see the Russ Wheeler program back in the early 2000's.

Funny story. Maybe I'll tell you about it when I've got more free time.



--------------------------------------------------

Falsus in unum, falsus in omnibus

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, October 5, 2023 6:52 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Mort as "death" and Gauge (or gage) measurement sizes

Joe Biden Kamala Harris Mortgage Rates in US Rise to Highest in More Than Two Decades

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/mortgage-rates-us-rise-highest-16000009
3.html

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Thursday, October 5, 2023 7:02 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I've actually heard some good news on this front. (Assuming it's true).

Well... It's good news if you're not planning on moving out of your house for a long time and you don't want to pay insane property taxes in the meantime, or you're somebody who is looking to buy a house now, anyhow.

It looks as though the big Investors have slowed their home purchases to a crawl, with some outright stopping them completely. It turns out that when you live in a country where the acting President and his administration have destroyed the economy, you can't just continue to buy up houses with the intention to rent them out, interest rates be damned, and just expect to keep jacking up rent prices to the fuckin' moon forever.

One investment firm, Blackstone, (Not to be confused with BlackRock), is in a position where they might have to start selling some properties. Since it's assumed that the properties on their books are inflated artificially in value, just selling one of them at the real price could set off a chain of events that destroys the whole thing.



After prices have been so artificially raised and still haven't fallen long after interest rates should have made them fall, I'm the last person who's going to tell you that the Housing Market Bubble 2.0's burst is just around the corner, but I think at the very least you're not going to see it rising anymore.


These investors know what they're doing though. They still want to own all the houses, but we've finally reached the scenario where even they're not willing to buy them up anymore when they can wait and buy up foreclosures on the cheap.


Not only are Bank of America and other big banks giving STUPID 0% interest virtue-signal loans to people who are almost 100% guaranteed to default on them, but Zillow just announced plans to start up 1% down mortgage plans. Where's Zillow getting the money to put 2% down themselves as a grant you don't have to pay back? Who knows? George Soros? Larry Flint, perhaps?

I hate this timeline.

--------------------------------------------------

Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, October 6, 2023 5:54 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Mortgage Rates Have Skyrocketed Under Joe Biden, Chart Reveals
https://www.newsweek.com/chart-reveals-mortgage-rates-skyrocketed-joe-
biden-1829825


Immigration crisis prompts Joe Biden to backflip on border wall
https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/immigration-crisis-promp
ts-joe-biden-to-backflip-on-border-wall-20231006-p5ea6v.html


That Feminist Black woman can fix all says Joss

Fellow fictional writers? she published her works under the pen name Selena Montgomery. She claims to have sold more than 100,000 copies of her novels.
https://web.archive.org/web/20120130000013/http://www.staceyabrams.com
/content/bio


Abrams wrote an op-ed for Fortune revealing that she owed $54,000 in federal back taxes and held $174,000 in credit card and student loan debt

Abrams played the Earth Presidency in Star Trek: Discovery, as the Queenz President of United Earth and a bunch of almost homeless looking drunk looking people with Bab Marley looking dreadlocks?


Benjamin Sisko or Kirk would have Pimp Smacked people for dressing so disrespectful!


Stacey Abrams helped Biden beat Trump in the 2020 election. Now, she’s focused on electrifying everything in America
https://fortune.com/2023/09/14/stacey-abrams-interview-electrifying-am
erica-dei-writer/?ref=biztoc.com



33 Trillion

and Joss thought all you had to do was vote for Stacey Abrams and all would be fixed?

https://twitter.com/joss/status/1326068771371487234

NOTIFY: N   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

Friday, October 6, 2023 1:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Joss is a broken man.

--------------------------------------------------

Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

NOTIFY: Y   |  REPLY  |  REPLY WITH QUOTE  |  TOP  |  HOME  

YOUR OPTIONS

NEW POSTS TODAY

USERPOST DATE

FFF.NET SOCIAL