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Monday, August 29, 2016 5:21 PM

THGRRI


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A sports executive who was a major donor to the Clinton Foundation and whose firm paid Bill Clinton millions of dollars in consulting fees wanted help getting a visa for a British soccer player with a criminal past.

The crown prince of Bahrain, whose government gave more than $50,000 to the Clintons’ charity and who participated in its glitzy annual conference, wanted a last-minute meeting with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

U2 rocker and philanthropist Bono, also a regular at foundation events, wanted high-level help broadcasting a live link to the International Space Station during concerts.

In each case, according to emails released Monday from Hillary Clinton’s time as secretary of state, the requests were directed to Clinton’s deputy chief of staff and confidante, Huma Abedin, who engaged with other top aides and sometimes Clinton herself about how to respond.

The emails show that, in these and similar cases, the donors did not always get what they wanted, particularly when they sought anything more than a meeting.

But the exchanges, among 725 pages of correspondence from Abedin disclosed as part of a lawsuit by the conservative group Judicial Watch, illustrate the way the Clintons’ international network of friends and donors was able to get access to Hillary Clinton and her inner circle during her tenure running the State Department.

The release of the correspondence follows previous disclosures of internal emails showing a similar pattern of access for foundation contributors, and it comes as Republicans allege that Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee, used her perch in the Obama administration to trade favors for donations. Clinton and the foundation have vigorously denied the charge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/emails-reveal-how-foundation-d
onors-got-access-to-clinton-and-her-close-aides-at-state-dept/2016/08/22/345b5200-6882-11e6-8225-fbb8a6fc65bc_story.html





Putin wants Trump so SIG does his bidding. I keep telling you SIG you are wasting Putin's money here. No one is buying what you are selling. Please don't try and tell me you haven't noticed you and 1kiki in every thread stand alone in what you post. That everyone else challenges what you say because it is untrue.

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Putin’s Alice-in-Wonderland can be wacky, mind boggling, irritating, disgusting, cynical, and incorrigible, but underlying it is a sinister narrative of an alternate reality, cleverly designed to promote Putin’s goals and head off effective Western actions.

The internet troll army’s selling of the Kremlin’s parallel universe to the Russian people and to a skeptical Western audience is a matter of life and death for the Putin regime. If the Russian people do not buy their story, Putin loses the high “ratings” on which his regime rests. If he cannot convince his Western audience, Europe and the United States will take actions that spoil his Novorossiya ventures and threaten his regime. Trolling is a high stakes business that Putin takes seriously and the West must not underestimate.

Germany’s Angela Merkel described Russian President Vladimir Putin, after a phone conversation, as “living in another world.” Like Merkel, we, who write on Russia’s War on Ukraine, have all had our rude introduction to Putin’s “other world.” In his parallel universe, the aggressor is the victim, strangers appoint themselves “premiers” of nonexistent “republics,” hundreds of soldiers mysteriously perish in border exercises or “on vacation,” a certified nationally elected government is a “neo-Nazi junta,” and hundreds of tanks and heavy weapons crossing borders are optical illusions.


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Monday, August 29, 2016 5:35 PM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


The fact that you keep saying that I'm a Russian troll (paid, even!) despite my provable long history here, and despite the fact that I've been saying pretty much the same things since I started posting ... long before "putin" and "russia" became the bogeymen under your bed... just speaks to the fact that YOU live in an alternate reality!

And, you're a troll!

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Monday, August 29, 2016 5:38 PM

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A 2015 BBC investigation identified the Olgino factory as the most likely producer of a September 2015 "Saiga 410K review" video where an actor posing as U.S. soldier shoots at a book that turns out to be a Quran, which sparked outrage. The BBC found among other irregularities that the soldier's uniform is not used by the U.S. military and is easily purchased in Russia, and that the actor filmed was most likely a barman from Saint Petersburg related to a troll factory employee.

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Monday, August 29, 2016 5:43 PM

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The fact that you keep saying that I'm a Russian troll (paid, even!) despite my provable long history here, and despite the fact that I've been saying pretty much the same things since I started posting ... long before "putin" and "russia" became the bogeymen under your bed... just speaks to the fact that YOU live in an alternate reality!

And, you're a troll!




You seem to believe that because you have posted here for a long time that, that proves you cannot possible be Russian or sympathetic to Russia's agenda. Yet every time without fail you take up a strict defense of everything they do. It is not me providing evidence of your trolling for Russia. It is you. It is not me bashing everything West while praising everything East SIG it is you. I am merely pointing it out.

And as for trolling, it is you who always start these doom and gloom threads.

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Monday, August 29, 2016 7:14 PM

SIGNYM

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And as for trolling, it is you who always start these doom and gloom threads.


Clearly, you have no idea what a "troll" is.

HINT: It's not posting "doom and gloom" threads. Maybe your friends here can clue you in.

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Saturday, October 8, 2016 4:30 AM

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I'm wocing Sliderz, a 90z TV show about going into alternate realityz.

In the 7th episode uv seazon 1, Hillary iz alredy prezident in 1995 in a dimension where women rule the world.

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Thursday, October 13, 2016 1:29 PM

THGRRI


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I always wondered why Hillary gave me a big case of the willies every time she tried to be charming. Now I know why:


HILLARY CLINTON, WARMONGER





Ok, do we believe SIG our lovable Russian troll or the Washington post who just indorsed Clinton?

The Washington Post is an American daily newspaper. It is the most widely circulated newspaper published in Washington, D.C., and was founded on December 6, 1877, making it the area's oldest extant newspaper.

Located in the capital city of the United States, the newspaper has a particular emphasis on national politics. Daily editions are printed for the District of Columbia, Maryland, and Virginia. The newspaper is published as a broadsheet, with photographs printed both in color and in black and white.

The newspaper has won 47 Pulitzer Prizes. This includes six separate Pulitzers awarded in 2008, the second-highest number ever awarded to a single newspaper in one year.






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Monday, October 17, 2016 5:58 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Clinton Campaign and DNC Caught Inciting Violence at Trump Rallies





Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60903&p=4#1
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Monday, October 17, 2016 6:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I wonder if these are the dirty tricks Frem talks about, or if he's referencing something worse.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Monday, October 17, 2016 6:40 PM

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Clinton Campaign and DNC Caught Inciting Violence at Trump Rallies




President: National poll results

Hillary Clinton (D) 45% (+7.00)

Donald Trump (R) 38%

Gary Johnson (L) 6%

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Monday, October 17, 2016 6:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Are polls = reality?




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Monday, October 17, 2016 6:48 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


There are many, many problems with hillary. She breaks countries and starts wars wherever she goes. Right now, she and obama are drumming up war fever JUST TO WIN THE ELECTION. Never mind that it's not against some small hapless country full of brown people that most voters can't find on a map. No, hillary and obama are aiming a Russia, a fully capable nuclear equal. I wonder if they've considered that the Russian response to their war-mongering might be something they can't just turn off after the election.

hillary as a president would have zero power to keep her many, many empty promises. And she knows that, but it doesn't stop her from making them anyway, because people really are that gullible. So, why not? But even more than that, hillary herself doesn't believe them, as the leaked documents show. hillary is an empty husk of a person when it comes to integrity.

hillary is completely corrupt, mixing state power with personal gain, as the leaked emails about pay-to-play as Secy of State and her toadying speeches to GS show.

And there's the billary issue - co-abusers of women and children, equal, if not worse than anyone else on the campaign trail.


But the BIGGEST problem with hillary is her finger on the nuclear button. Having left Iraq, Libya, Ukraine and Syria in unfixable smoking ruins, and unable to admit or even understand that she was wrong, surrounded by her equally deluded neocons in the State Department, military and CIA who also think a nuclear war is winnable, deaf to warnings, she'd turn her attention toward Russia - with her fat finger on the nuclear button and US policy to launch nuclear weapons FIRST in her waddling hip pocket. Given her unblemished history of failure, I can't imagine anything could possibly go wrong.




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Monday, October 17, 2016 7:43 PM

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There are many, many problems with hillary. She breaks countries and starts wars wherever she goes. Right now, she and obama are drumming up war fever JUST TO WIN THE ELECTION. Never mind that it's not against some small hapless country full of brown people that most voters can't find on a map. No, hillary and obama are aiming a Russia, a fully capable nuclear equal. I wonder if they've considered that the Russian response to their war-mongering might be something they can't just turn off after the election.

hillary as a president would have zero power to keep her many, many empty promises. And she knows that, but it doesn't stop her from making them anyway, because people really are that gullible. So, why not? But even more than that, hillary herself doesn't believe them, as the leaked documents show. hillary is an empty husk of a person when it comes to integrity.

hillary is completely corrupt, mixing state power with personal gain, as the leaked emails about pay-to-play as Secy of State and her toadying speeches to GS show.

And there's the billary issue - co-abusers of women and children, equal, if not worse than anyone else on the campaign trail.


But the BIGGEST problem with hillary is her finger on the nuclear button. Having left Iraq, Libya, Ukraine and Syria in unfixable smoking ruins, and unable to admit or even understand that she was wrong, surrounded by her equally deluded neocons in the State Department, military and CIA who also think a nuclear war is winnable, deaf to warnings, she'd turn her attention toward Russia - with her fat finger on the nuclear button and US policy to launch nuclear weapons FIRST in her waddling hip pocket. Given her unblemished history of failure, I can't imagine anything could possibly go wrong.





President: National poll results

Hillary Clinton (D) 45% (+7.00)

Donald Trump (R) 38%

Gary Johnson (L) 6%

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Monday, October 17, 2016 7:44 PM

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Are polls = reality?




They are your worst reality


President: National poll results

Hillary Clinton (D) 45% (+7.00)

Donald Trump (R) 38%

Gary Johnson (L) 6%

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Monday, October 17, 2016 7:52 PM

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SIG, 1kiki pay attention.

Rumor check: Man behind Clinton Foundation ‘invoice’ circulated on social media admits it is fake

The man behind the meme, identified only as Chris, told The Daily Beast that he intentionally fabricates documents he then calls “leaked” in an effort to get internet users to be more discerning about what they believe — but people fall for it.



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Monday, October 17, 2016 7:55 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I don't go to 'social media' for my news. Do you?




Let me just point out that the author left out vital relevant facts in the opinion piece. Doing that is known as cherry-picking. And whether you do that in the news, in discussion, in debate or in opinion, when you distort the facts, you've changed the nature of your communication into propaganda. But WE don't have any of THAT in the US, do we?!

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:29 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I'm resurrecting this thread as an analysis of what went wrong with Hillary, and the democratic party - which seem like they can get their act together, still.


http://www.salon.com/2017/03/04/susan-sarandon-was-right-she-warned-us
-hillary-was-doomed-liberals-didnt-want-to-listen
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Susan Sarandon was right: She warned us Hillary was doomed; liberals didn’t want to listen
No, she didn't elect Trump — and it's easier for liberals to hate on Sarandon than to face their own hypocrisy
Danielle Ryan



Remember that time when Susan Sarandon said she wouldn’t vote for Hillary Clinton and all hell broke lose in liberal land?

The actress and activist — who had previously been a vocal Bernie Sanders supporter — told MSNBC’s Chris Hayes in March last year that although she hadn’t decided which person to vote for, “some people” felt that Donald Trump would “bring the revolution immediately” — whereas Clinton was all about “shoring up the status quo.”

This naturally led to cries of outrage from the Clintonista center-left. Sarandon is not a good feminist, they seethed. She’s a traitor to the liberal cause, they fumed. She would put the country at risk. It was people like her, they said, that risked putting Trump in office. This went on for a while, with articles popping up all over the place condemning Sarandon for not falling in line with the rest of politically-conscious Hollywood. Newsweek writer Kurt Eichenwald called out Sarandon’s “narcissistic purity” on Twitter and blamed her for Trump’s win.

Sarandon was back on Hayes’ show recently and was asked this time how she felt now that Trump had won. There was a strong undercurrent of blame throughout the interview: The implication from Hayes was that Sarandon should get down on her knees, grovel and apologize profusely for failing to vote for Clinton. Much to his obvious disappointment, she defended her earlier comments and even doubled down on them.

But here’s the thing: If liberals weren’t too busy tweeting abuse at Sarandon and writing think pieces about her white privilege, they might just be able to see that she makes some salient points about the American political system, the media and the Trump presidency.

So, liberals, hold your fire for a second, and let’s look at this with an open mind.

1. It’s uncomfortable for Clinton supporters to admit this, but the fact is, Sarandon was awake when many Democrats weren’t. She was a vocal supporter of Sanders, the only truly progressive candidate with any chance of securing the nomination. Clinton was a status quo candidate and, as Sarandon has pointed out, if you back the status quo when people are desperate for change, “you’re going to have a difficult time.”

We’ll never know if Sanders could have beaten Trump, but we do know that Clinton could not. We know that the Democrats allowed Clinton to run a status quo campaign when people were hungry for revolution. We also know they schemed and connived against Sanders and paid the price. For that, Sarandon can’t be blamed.

2. Now, how ’bout that revolution? Sarandon was right there, too. OK, “revolution” may be too strong a word. But she is correct in saying that Trump’s presidency has woken up people in a way that never would have happened if Clinton had won. The popular retort to this is: Oh, but Clinton would have been much better than Trump. So there would have been no need for revolution! Therein lies the crux of the liberal con.

While Trump is brash and in-your-face about his awful policies, Obama and Clinton simply put a kinder, sugarcoated face on some of the very same things. Take fracking, for example. Fracking boomed under Obama. At one point, Clinton even tried to tar the image of anti-fracking environmentalists by linking them to a Russian plot to hamper the U.S. energy industry.

“Gasland” director Josh Fox — whose 2010 documentary went a long way toward reshaping progressive consciousness of the fracking issue — said the following in the same MSNBC episode with Sarandon:

Obama is the one that’s left us with the legacy of 300 frack-gas power plants. That’s thousands of pipelines. That’s millions of fracking wells. That was Hillary Clinton’s and Obama’s plan — Obama was the fracker in chief for eight years.

While Clinton’s State Department was promoting fracking around the world, we were reading The Huffington Post’s “65 Reasons Hillary Clinton Is a Badass” and perusing BuzzFeed’s “40 Most Adorable Pictures of President Obama.” Now the media has suddenly cottoned on to how awful this is for the environment and we’re all supposed to dutifully pretend that fracking was invented by Trump.

3. It’s worth including a note here about foreign policy, too. Sarandon has made multiple comments about Clinton’s foreign policy record. She told The Young Turks: “She did not learn from Iraq, and she is an interventionist, and she has done horrible things — and very callously. I don’t know if she is overcompensating or what her trip is. That scares me. I think we’ll be in Iran in two seconds.”

While it looks like Trump might also be salivating for conflict with Iran, Sarandon was not wrong about Clinton. Compared with Trump Clinton is a rabid interventionist. (Trump appears to be at least somewhat more of an isolationist, which is problematic for other reasons.) She is an unashamed hawk and proponent of U.S.-led and -engineered regime changes around the world — under the guise of liberal humanitarianism, of course.

Clinton’s role in supporting the 2009 Honduras coup and subsequent destabilization of that country has been well documented. She led the charge for a failed intervention that turned Libya into a failed state, and she was a proponent of implementing a no-fly zone in Syria, which could have resulted in a shooting war with Russia. As for Obama? Well, he only bombed seven Muslim-majority countries during his time in office.

4. Sarandon has also laid some blame for the current political situation on the media. In one particularly awkward exchange with Hayes, she questioned his journalistic credibility:

Sarandon: You consider yourself a journalist, right?

Hayes: Yeah, I spend 15 hours a day covering what’s going on.

Sarandon: So how many hours did you spend on Standing Rock?

Hayes: Not very much.

A while later, Hayes asked Sarandon to look him in the eye and say whether Trump was as bad as she expected him to be as president. She dismissed the question and asked him this:

Can you look me in the eyes and tell me you were doing your job to cover these issues completely? You just told me that you didn’t really cover DAPL. Are you covering now all of these [pipeline] explosions that have just happened? Because that’s what we need you to do — what we need from you is to allow people to understand what’s happening.

Again, Sarandon is right. The press treated Obama and Clinton with kid gloves compared to the battering they are giving Trump. It’s not the job of members of the media to decide that a president’s policies are less deserving of harsh criticism if he seems like a nice guy. It’s their job to be rigorous in their coverage of every president, with no exceptions.

Democrats who blame people like Sarandon for the Trump mess reveal a lot about themselves. Could it be that the real reason they don’t want to listen, or even entertain her opinions, is because if they did, they’d come face to face with their own hypocrisy?

That’s the crux of the matter. When Sarandon says Trump is bringing the revolution faster, what she’s really doing is pointing out liberal hypocrisy. Far too many liberals who have developed a newfound passion for environmentalism and world peace displayed little interest in either of those things during Obama’s presidency — and very likely would not have batted an eyelid over a Clinton continuation of similarly disastrous policies either.

To say all this is not a defense of Trump, lest anyone interpret it that way. It’s simply to say that nothing changes if nothing changes. If liberals really want to see progressive policies put into action, they’re going to have to open their eyes and vote for actual progressives.
Danielle Ryan is an Irish freelance journalist, writing mostly on geopolitics and media. She is based in Budapest, but has also lived in the U.S., Germany and Russia. Follow her on Twitter.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:05 PM

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Maybe you should actually read that G. It comes from a legit Liberal.

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Saturday, March 11, 2017 6:38 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


And from an ultra-neoliberal, Hillary-or-bust source.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, April 26, 2017 5:21 PM

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THGRRI


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
ANOTHER HILLARY LEAKER, ANOTHER DEAD BODY

Wikileaks' Assange Hints Murdered DNC Staffer Was Email-Leaker, Offers $20k Reward For Info
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The mysterious circumstances surrounding the death of 27-year-old Democratic-staffer Seth Rich (shot multiple times, and not robbed, at 420am near his home in Washington D.C., where no homicides have been reported within 1500 feet) have stirred Wikileaks founder Julian Assange to offer a $20,000 reward for information leading to a conviction. But it is Assange's comments during a Dutch TV interview that are most disturbing as he hinted that Rich - who was in charge of DNC voter expansion data - was the email-leaker and his death was a politically-motivated assassination.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-10/wikileaks-assange-hints-murde
red-dnc-staffer-was-email-leaker-offers-20k-reward-info


Along those same lines ...

U.N. Official 'Accidentally' Crushes Own Throat Right Before Testifying Against Hillary Clinton
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...And as you might have guessed, there are major inconsistencies with Ashe’s death. It was not only conveniently timed because Ashe died just a few days before being set to testify against Clinton in a corruption case, but official reports indicated he died of a heart attack.
The problem, however, is that police on the scene reported Ashe died when his throat was crushed during a work-out accident.

The New York Post’s Page Six reported that after Ashe was found dead Wednesday, the U.N. claimed that he had died from a heart attack. Local police officers in Dobbs Ferry, New York, later disputed that claim, saying instead that he died from a workout accident that crushed his throat.

Adding to the mysterious nature of Ashe’s death was the fact that he had been slated to be in court Monday with his Chinese businessman co-defendant Ng Lap Seng, from whom he reportedly received over $1 billion in donations during his term as president of the U.N. General Assembly.

And then there was this: During the presidency of Bill Clinton, Seng illegally funneled several hundred thousand dollars to the Democrat National Committee.


Source: The Conservative Tribune via The Daily Sheeple

It must be coincidence, right?


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-02/un-official-accidentally-crus
hes-own-throat-right-testifying-against-hillary-clinton


AND ....

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Amid the media-hyped furor over Donald Trump's 2nd Amendment comments and Wikileaks' suggestions about the untimely death of DNC-staffer Seth Rich, we thought it perhaps of note that Democratic strategist, and CNN host, has publicly called for the "illegal assassination of that son-of-a-bitch" Julian Assange...[in 2010]



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I think it's time you disabused yourself of that pleasant little fairy tale about our fearless leaders being some sort of surrogate daddy or mommy, laying awake at night thinking about how to protect the kids. HA! In reality, they're thinking about who to sell them to so that they can get a few more shekels in their pockets.



Thank you SIG. Some of us here address your posts in ways that show you as someone who conspires to spread lies and mistruths. This post is a good example of that. I remember you insisting to G it was you who relied on reliable news sources not he. The rest of us had a good laugh over that. Here is the truth concerning your sources. Zerohedge “The news portion of the site is written by a group of editors who collectively write under the pseudonym "Tyler Durden" (a character from the novel and film Fight club).” There is no way a news source can be trusted when the writers hide behind pseudonyms. That would be like watching the evening news and the news anchors hid behind screens and remained anonymous. lol

Time and time again we see you relying on Zerohedge as your news source. It has become your site of one stop shopping. All you are SIG is a mindless Russia drone. You are one of those people who is too weak to formulate their own opinions. Even though they have access to a wealth of information accumulated over thousands of years. The rule of law SIG is what’s important and the civilized world is trying to get synchronized behind that idea. Your country of choice Russia, is falling woefully behind. You need to stop doing Putin’s bidding and get a grip on reality.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_Hedge


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Tuesday, January 23, 2018 12:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Wow, you really DO have a man-crush on Putin!

Yanno, *I* certainly don't bring him up - at all. And yet, there you are, dragging him in to every single conversation that's about pretty much everything else. I'm sure if we were discussing how blue the sky is, you'd be bringing up ... Putin.

Do you think you could possibly NOT mention him for an entire thread, if the thread's not about Putin? Or are you too obsessed?
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Ok some clarity is needed here. For all you who wish to criticize Clinton please feel free. I too have many, and I mean many reasons I am not happy with having to vote for her. Trump is out of the question. I would be remiss however, if I failed to remind all about the hypocrisy of SIG and 1kiki feigning disgust with Clinton, while defending everything Putin does. And let’s face the facts folks, check the threads, they defend everything Putin does without exception. It is literality impossible to be so dismayed by what Clinton does, yet not be even skeptical with what Putin does.

Raise your hand if you haven’t figured out why. I’ll give a hint. Think comrade trolls.


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Tuesday, January 23, 2018 12:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

But, in detail, the answer is: NONE. Yes, I have people work for me, but they have to have
(1) A valid Social Security number (Yes, I ask for the card, and then check it online)
(2) A valid driver's license.
(3) A working car, and car insurance
(4) A good knowledge of English.




So wrong about the country, right about the servants, check.

The main point being - if these employees from another country (I presume since you mention they need to be able to speak decent English) that work for you start waving their home country's flag, would you want to force them out of the US? How do THEY feel about Trump? Your quick "deport them!" reaction to citizens from foreign countries who may be US citizens - like those that work for you - seems extreme and overly emotional.

BTW - no one here thinks Hillary is a great choice - get over it. The more you try and suggest otherwise the more you appear completely disingenuous (sadly, that's almost all the time).




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Tuesday, January 23, 2018 2:07 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh yeah, HOLY CRAP! One sentence critical of Hillary! Dozens and dozens of posts defending her!

I dare GSTRING to come up with two or three more posts critical of Hillary. I'll bet he can't! HARDLY reflective of "hating" her.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

America is an oligarchy
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Tuesday, January 23, 2018 4:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Wow, you really DO have a man-crush on Putin!

Yanno, *I* certainly don't bring him up - at all. And yet, there you are, dragging him in to every single conversation that's about pretty much everything else. I'm sure if we were discussing how blue the sky is, you'd be bringing up ... Putin.

Do you think you could possibly NOT mention him for an entire thread, if the thread's not about Putin? Or are you too obsessed?



Can you answer the question THUGGER?

Oh, and btw, how can I be a Putin troll when I NEVER POST ABOUT HIM?

YOU, OTOH. What a crush YOU have on him!




HAS IT NOT OCCURRED TO YOU BY NOW THAT IF YOU HAVE TO RESORT TO LOGICAL FALLACIES AND TROLLING YOUR SO-CALLED ARGUMENTS ARE LIES?

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Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


With (maybe) one exception (I haven't re-read EVERY post of yours in here, just most of them) every post of yours was a defense of Hillary, because you attacked everyone who criticized her.

And, as usual you didn't attack people on the issues, you attacked them PERSONALLY, on such irrelevancies as their name ("Paul Craig Roberts") or their apocryphal "Mexican servants". In other words, you let your trolling skills shine! in defense of Hillary.

Anyone who bothers to read your posts will see that. I don't need to re-post your posts; your words speak for themselves.



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http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876

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Thursday, January 25, 2018 10:59 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by G:

BTW - no one here thinks Hillary is a great choice - get over it. The more you try and suggest otherwise the more you appear completely disingenuous (sadly, that's almost all the time).



Thanks T. Yeah, SIG can't keep her own thoughts straight let alone anyone else's.

==============================



That's because she deals in spreading lies and twisted truths. No way she can remember that shit from one moment to the next.


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Thursday, January 25, 2018 11:03 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
You ass. I haven't dealt with that article. Go suck your own cock.



Heh - the mask slips, the troll is revealed.



And man oh man is it ugly.




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Thursday, January 25, 2018 11:06 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

You Know Those Missing Hillary Emails? Russia Might Leak 20,000 Of Them





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Thursday, January 25, 2018 11:17 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:

Funny - if you go to Hillary Clinton's site the first thing you get is a pop up that says something to the effect: "We can't afford a Trump in the White House" Interesting strategy - not "how good she is" but "how bad he is."






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Thursday, January 25, 2018 11:26 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Q- What does GSTRING do for fun? A- He flosses his asshole with his GSTRING!



Wow - that's pretty low even for you.

So rather than have an adult conversation and take responsibility for, or own the things you made up, you choose to insult, threaten, and then runaway?

Bye yet again SIGNYM - stay classless as usual.




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Thursday, January 25, 2018 11:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh, I can go much, much lower, You have no idea what I've thought of but never posted.



Great - more threats. Do impress us with how much lower you can go.




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Thursday, January 25, 2018 11:41 AM

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Here you go sig. You are nothing but a troll who lies about everything. G is less than kind to Hillary and her team in this quote. It shows he at least, is presenting an honest appraisal of Hillary, while you post lies and shit from russian bots that is nothing less than disgusting. Starting with your very first post while creating this thread.

G taking you on for that is not the same as mounting a defense of why she would be a good president.

There are years of posts here by the two of you like this that show a theme, good vs. troll.

Quote:

Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Do you suppose you might possibly stay on topic, and stop gossiping and whining?

Naw...

But hey, thanks for bumping the Anonymous video!



Sure, on topic. I like how in the video Terry Gross tried to hold Hillary accountable for her misstatements (lies) just like I try to hold you accountable. I think once you accept that this is a problem you have and start embracing raw Truth - no matter where it leads you even if it is away from previously held beliefs - you will stop flailing about so much.

But anyway... Hillary's worst attribute is she's a really bad politician. Even terrible imho. Listening to her speak and try and sound presidential is painful. I can't listen, it's too forced, too fake, and I think that also reveals itself in her actions and policies. She is definitely not a sophisticated thinker and has very little charm or charisma, which could have serious consequences internationally. The world is full of immature male leaders and just plain shabby characters.

I am almost equally worried about the people she has around her, advising her though. Her team's lack of will power to tell her "no!" when she made so many bad choices with email was baaaad. Her lack of respect for the medium is pervasive today (heh), and people who know that - as she should have had around her - understand that every day. They really let her down. Every president who wants to excel needs great people around them, and part of that is the need for them to be honest, sometimes brutally so. Hey! full circle!




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Thursday, January 25, 2018 11:47 AM

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Quote:

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Yessir - That's how Russia rolls...

http://bit.ly/2aakH9m

How Putin Weaponized Wikileaks to Influence the Election of an American President

"Evidence suggests that a Russian intelligence group was the source of the most recent Wikileaks intel dump, which was aimed to influence the U.S. election.

Close your eyes and imagine that a hacking group backed by Russian President Vladimir Putin broke into the email system of a major U.S. political party. The group stole thousands of sensitive messages and then published them through an obliging third party in a way that was strategically timed to influence the United States presidential election. Now open your eyes, because that’s what just happened.

On Friday, Wikileaks published 20,000 emails stolen from the Democratic National Committee. They reveal, among other things, thuggish infighting, a push by a top DNC official to use Bernie Sanders’ religious convictions against him in the South, and attempts to strong-arm media outlets. In other words, they reveal the Washington campaign monster for what it is.

But leave aside the purported content of the Wikileaks data dump (to which numerous other outlets have devoted considerable attention) and consider the source. Considerable evidence shows that the Wikileaks dump was an orchestrated act by the Russian government, working through proxies, to undermine Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign."

Of course this makes sense. Get ready for the scoffs and outrage.




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Thursday, January 25, 2018 12:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
My god SIG. Is there anything about you that isn't doom and gloom? Is there anything about you that isn't hypocritical? voicing outrage about the behavior of Hillary Clinton while praising people like Putin and his Iranian allies.

Is there any part of you that isn't a warped and sick bitch? I am about finished with my BSW and I currently work in the mental health field. Trust me, you are one sick bitch.




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Thursday, January 25, 2018 12:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"... and I currently work in the mental health field ..."

Janitor, perhaps? Because I'd sure hate to see you working with people with your (proven) racism and your (proven) hatred towards anyone who disagrees with your politics.





This is what I love about you 1kiki. You are clueless to my beliefs because most of what I post in the RWT is debunking what you and SIG post. As for me being a bigot, sorry but you and SIG have shown that it is you who care about others, only when it means you can stir up trouble in these forums. You blast a country for bombing one hospital and make excuses for another who bombs many.

Sorry asshole, all your posts in these threads are full of proof of that.




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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:25 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I always wondered why Hillary gave me a big case of the willies every time she tried to be charming. Now I know why:


HILLARY CLINTON, WARMONGER






Trump orders this. Comrade Sig is wrong again. Trumps the threat to world peace not Clinton.
And don't fool yourself, it's Putin who really wanted this.



US confirms withdrawal from nuclear arms treaty with Russia

The treaty, concluded in 1987, barred the United States and Russia from deploying missiles
with a range from 500 to 5,500 km,
and largely was credited with banishing
nuclear missiles from Europe

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/23/bolton-inf-treaty-russia
-putin-moscow-meeting


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Tuesday, October 23, 2018 5:36 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


For all that I disagree with Trump about some things, I'm very grateful that Hillary isn't President.

If you notice, Trump hasn't started any new wars/ interventions in his first two years - unlike GWB and Obama. That's a first for American Presidents lately!

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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Wednesday, October 24, 2018 1:43 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by THUGGER:
The treaty, concluded in 1987, barred the United States and Russia from deploying missiles
with a range from 500 to 5,500 km,
and largely was credited with banishing
nuclear missiles from Europe


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/23/bolton-inf-treaty-russia
-putin-moscow-meeting



Talk about a bald-faced lie.

Quote:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing

Nuclear sharing is a concept in NATO's policy of nuclear deterrence, which involves member countries without nuclear weapons of their own in the planning for the use of nuclear weapons by NATO. In particular, it provides for the armed forces of those countries to be involved in 'delivering' nuclear weapons in the event of their use.

As part of nuclear sharing, the participating countries ... maintain technical equipment (e.g., nuclear-capable airplanes) required for the use of nuclear weapons, and store nuclear weapons on their territory. In case of war, the United States told NATO allies the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) would no longer be controlling.[1]

Weapons provided for nuclear sharing (2015)
Country Base Estimated Bombs
Belgium Kleine Brogel 10~20
Germany Büchel =20
Italy Aviano 50
Italy Ghedi 20~40
Netherlands Volkel 10~20
Turkey Incirlik 50~90
5 nations 6 bases 160~240


Those countries might not have their OWN nuclear weapons programs and their OWN nuclear bombs, but they certainly have ours!

Europe is NOT a nuclear-weapons-free zone vis a vis Russia.





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Tuesday, November 19, 2019 6:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


When we last heard this story - Hillary Clinton's presidential loss didn't have a bad effect on the Clinton Foundation, due to withdrawal of Saudi Arabia's generous donations.


But the Foundation did record millions in losses in 2017 and 2018. Still, I'm sure there was no quid pro quo.

Quote:


https://summit.news/2019/11/19/clinton-foundation-files-16-8-million-l
oss
/

Clinton Foundation Files $16.8 MILLION Loss

Newly released tax records show that the foundation reported a loss of almost $17 million in 2018, to add to the net loss of $16.1 million the previous year in 2017.

The numbers don’t lie.

Total revenue reported for 2018 was just $30.7 million, less than a tenth of what was being pulled in While Hillary was Secretary of State.

Only $24.2 million was posted in grants and contributions, which constitutes a record low for the “charity.” Expenses amounted to $47.5 million, hence a loss of $16.8 million.

In 2009, the Clinton Foundation hauled in $249 million, and in the four years that followed, another $392.2 million in revenue poured in. In her last three years in office, 2014-16, the foundation raised a whopping $344.4 million.





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Tuesday, February 11, 2020 7:46 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I'm necroposting because I asked myself in the 'Who Is Running In 2020?' http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62903&p=11 thread what it was that people so disliked about Hillary.

First of all here's my answer - I disliked her because she was a proven war-monger who was jonesing for a war with Russia, our nuclear equal. Before the 2016 general election I posted a number of times that my ONE priority in voting for president was voting for someone who wouldn't be spoiling for a nuclear fight with Russia. But in addition to that, personally, I disliked here because she was bought-and-paid-for, shifty as hell, entitled, and dismissive of us peons.

But that's just me.


Why did Hillary have historic net negative ratings?

Here are some opinions:


https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2017/09/16/5-reasons-so-ma
ny-people-hate-hillary-clinton-n2382422

#1) Her whole campaign could have been boiled down to “Vote for me because I’m a woman”
#2) Hillary’s entire claim to fame is being married to Bill
#3) She’s hopelessly corrupt
#4) She felt entitled to be President because of her last name
#5) She’s simply not a very nice person


https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/06/03/why-do-they-hate-he
r-215220

Clinton remains a pariah among a large portion of the population: widely disparaged by pundits, blamed by some on the left wing of her party for Trump’s victory, despised by Republicans and many independents.
the role of the Russian government in crippling her campaign
Some of the answer is surely rooted in gender ... it’s unsurprising that many of the pundits quickest to share their latest hot take about Clinton’s failure as a candidate (or human being) are men
For more than two years, Republicans did more than demonize her—they criminalized her ... Benghazi ... personal email server
James Comey
her treatment says more about the kind of country we’ve become than why she lost Wisconsin


https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-reasons-that-some-people-dislike-Hi
llary-Clinton

- many on the right saw her as unacceptably liberal. She was the poster child for a certain kind of unapologetic feminism. You can see it here in her “could have stayed home and baked cookies” statement
- There were all kinds of right wing conspiracy theories against the Clintons in the 90s. When people are subjected to such a barrage of negativity, a perception that some of it must have been deserved sets in. The barrage of conspiracy theories against Hillary basically never stopped. It’s impossible to be an American Conservative and not have absorbed at least some of it.
- She is a pragmatist. If she supports gay rights but the rest of the country doesn’t support it, she’ll support advancing gay rights as far as politically feasible. She’s not going to campaign on idealism that she has no chance of enacting into policy. Some people view that as exceedingly calculating and untrustworthy.
- She is very pro-military intervention. A lot of people on the left dislike that.
- She is too comfortable with the big Banks. A lot of liberals, especially those of my generation, really, really, really don’t like that.


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/th
e_people_who_hate_hillary_clinton_the_most.html

venal cynic
bias/ misogyny
not everyone’s charm translates to film and video
(organization) polled people who don’t like Clinton about the reasons for their distaste. Eighty-four percent agreed with the statement “She changes her positions when it’s politically convenient.” Eighty-two percent consider her “corrupt.”
(see the article for an extensive list of individuals and their personal reasons why they dislike Hillary)


https://www.huffpost.com/entry/stop-pretending-you-dont-_b_12191766
misogyny


https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/01/television-review-hillary-docum
entary-clinton-still-blaming-america-for-her-failures
/
... she is sour, dour, and without a humorous molecule in her body. Her laughter is always feigned, hence always a non sequitur. When she reminds herself it’s laughing time, it comes across as a tic. It’s as bizarre ...


https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/20/opinions/why-the-hate-for-hillary-clint
on-opinion-parini/index.html

Republicans have known for a long time that Hillary Clinton is an unusually strong candidate, and this terrifies them.
... one sees misogyny bubbling out in the comments section of articles on the Web, where no sentiments -- however crude -- are off limits.
Some believe, for instance, that she doesn't tell the truth. Or that she's beholden to Wall Street. Or that she got four people killed in Benghazi. Others insist that she played fast and loose with her emails, risking national security and breaking the law.


https://www.salon.com/2017/09/20/everybody-still-hates-hillary-clinton
-but-why
/
illegitimate reasons
she is a woman
the right-wing propaganda machine ... has vilified her ... for the past 25 years
Clinton doesn’t deserve the lion’s share of the blame for what happened
legitimate criticisms
well-earned reputation as a creature of the establishment
writing on her campaign website that the political system “has been hijacked by billionaires and special interests” — when it came to her own personal situation she adamantly denied being influenced at all by special interests
"She acknowledges that it was bad “optics” to give paid speeches for big banks like Goldman Sachs, for example, but it’s not clear whether she thinks it was actually inappropriate for her to accept hundreds of thousands of dollars from a bank known for its fraudulent practices, at a time when she was obviously preparing to run for president. In other words, she isn’t sorry that she gave those speeches; she’s sorry that they became such a PR disaster for her campaign."


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Tuesday, September 27, 2022 11:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I always wondered why Hillary gave me a big case of the willies every time she tried to be charming. Now I know why:

HILLARY CLINTON, WARMONGER






Hey Signym. Back when you started
this thread, we told you it would be Trump or Putin
who was most likely to start a war. Even a nuclear war.

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

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Originally posted by THGRRI: Sunday, March 13, 2016 9:56 PM

My god SIG. Is there anything about you that isn't doom and gloom? Is there anything about you that isn't hypocritical? voicing outrage about the behavior of Hillary Clinton while praising people like Putin and his Iranian allies.

Is there any part of you that isn't a warped and sick bitch? I am about finished with my BSW and I currently work in the mental health field. Trust me, you are one sick bitch.





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Tuesday, October 4, 2022 4:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

I agree about her hawkishness.

I was looking at her speech more indirectly. It seems to me that she wants to continue provoking Russia, under the assumption that Russia won't respond directly militarily, especially not with nuclear weapons. She's going to presume on Putin having endless restraint, though he's already said he'll use nuclear weapons if threatened. She seems like she'll keep poking the Russian (nuclear) bear with no goal or stopping point.




Always wrong kiki and signym.

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Ukraine continues to be on a military roll. Its army has made its biggest breakthrough against Russian forces in the south of the country since the war there began.





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Tuesday, October 4, 2022 5:01 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:


What DOES that make her, I wonder? A democrapublican? A republocrat?- KIKI

I think the word you're searching for is "centrist".- KPO



I think the word you're searching for is "plutocrat".

The USA is an oligarchy and there's no getting around that fact. It's the wealthy who determine policy, not the people. And Hillary has her nose up the butts of the wealthiest of the (international wealthy) like Goldman Sachs. She's so much in the pocket of international capital, she doesn't need the (national) capitalists, like the Koch brothers, who are mere dirt under her fingernails.




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Times Radio

Russia is about to become a failed state, former US Army major says



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Monday, January 8, 2024 4:18 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Prosecutor On Special Counsel Jack Smith's Team Shut Down FBI Investigation Into Clinton Foundation In 2016

A top prosecutor on Special Counsel Jack Smith’s team recommended that the FBI shut down an investigation into the Clinton Foundation in 2016, despite ample evidence of suspicious activity related to hundreds of thousands of dollars in foreign transactions, Fox News reported.

In his May 2023 report on the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane investigation, Special Counsel John Durham identified Ray Hulser, the former chief of the Department of Justice’s Public Integrity Section (PIN), as the official who “declined prosecution” of the Clinton Foundation. Hulser now serves on Smith’s team currently prosecuting former President Donald Trump for alleged crimes related to January 6.

According to Durham’s report, in late 2014, the FBI began investigating a “well-placed” confidential source’s claims that two foreign governments had attempted to make illegal donations to buy influence with Hillary ahead of her presidential campaign.

By early 2016, three different FBI field offices, in Washington, D.C., Little Rock, Arkansas, and New York, had opened investigations into the Clinton Foundation for “possible criminal activity,” but Hulser shut them down, claiming there was “insufficient predication” for opening the investigations. He reportedly declined to prosecute during a meeting on February 1, 2016.

An individual present for the meeting told Durham that the Justice Department’s reaction to the Clinton Foundation briefing was “hostile.”

According to Durham’s report, the investigation out of Washington was opened as a “preliminary investigation, because the case agent wanted to determine if he could develop additional information to corroborate allegations in a recently-published book, ‘Clinton Cash’ by Peter Schweizer, before seeking to convert the matter to a full investigation.”

Durham asked Hulser about his decision to shut down the Clinton Foundation probes as part of his investigation. Hulser told Durham that he thought the “FBI briefing was poorly presented and that there was insufficient predication for at least one of the investigations due to its reliance on allegations contained in a book.”

However, the New York and Little Rock investigations included predication “based on source reporting that identified foreign governments that had made, or offered to make, contributions to the Foundation in exchange for favorable or preferential treatment from Clinton,” according to the special counsel’s report.



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My god SIG. Is there anything about you that isn't doom and gloom? Is there anything about you that isn't hypocritical? voicing outrage about the behavior of Hillary Clinton while praising people like Putin and his Iranian allies.

Is there any part of you that isn't a warped and sick bitch? I am about finished with my BSW and I currently work in the mental health field. Trust me, you are one sick bitch.

Anyone working in the mental health field would never call anyone a "sick bitch". You're either a liar, or you've chosen the wrong profession!

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Oh, a blast from the past ...

Here is THUGR claiming to work in the mental health field!!


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