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I'm surprised there's not an inflation thread yet

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Thursday, August 15, 2024 2:56 PM

THG


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Wow. Before Biden* was in office, 3% was bad.

Not impressed at all when it's been so high for so long that the bar is below the floor, Theodore.

Neither is anybody who can't afford anything in Joe Biden*/Democrat's America.

That cohort includes the half of your party's base that isn't a college "educated" white person.



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Consumer price index rose 0.2 % in July pushing inflation down to 2.9 %, not 3 %. If you had gone to school, you would understand things started to go awry when Trump completely mismanaged COVID causing hundreds of thousands of needless deaths. Biden has fixed Trumps mess before his first term ended. Fucking outstanding...

Get ready cause Biden isn't done. Watch the news and you'll see why.

T





2.9% is not good either, Ted. And that's a high 2.9% on top of years of ultra-high inflation now.

Your guy destroyed the economy. Those prices will NEVER go back down. We got 12 years of inflation in only 4 years and that will NEVER reverse.

Don't pretend you know anything about this. You're a fucking idiot.

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Bullshit, and if you're right Trump would be winning hands down. So why is he losing?

tick tock

T


Central banks and governments closely monitor the annual inflation rate to ensure it is at a balanced and modest level, around 2% to 3%.




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Thursday, August 15, 2024 3:37 PM

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2.9% is not good either, Ted. And that's a high 2.9% on top of years of ultra-high inflation now.

Your guy destroyed the economy. Those prices will NEVER go back down. We got 12 years of inflation in only 4 years and that will NEVER reverse.

Don't pretend you know anything about this. You're a fucking idiot.

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Too bad that car prices go up, but that happens because car companies set their prices to take from buyers the maximum amount that buyers have. Lower prices would be stupid for a capitalistic car company wanting to be as profitable as the buyers' bank account balances allow in the market for new cars.

Trump's VP, J.D. Vance, says no one can afford a car anymore. As usual, this kind of doom mongering is wrong. It's true that car prices spiked during the pandemic, but here's the long-term picture:


Car affordability goes up and down based on various factors: recessions (2007), factory problems (Fukushima), supply chain problems (COVID), changes in taste (SUVs vs. sedans), and so forth. But the trendline has been dead flat for 30+ years and new car prices are already starting to correct for their pandemic spike.

This is all the more remarkable because you get so much more for the same price these days. Essentially every car made now has: airbags, anti-lock brakes, fuel injection, GPS, infotainment systems, air conditioning, adaptive cruise control, lane keeping, better gas mileage, better reliability, and more.

Things are fine. Politicians and newspapers have incentives to make everything seem bad, but the facts say otherwise. No human beings anywhere in the world at any point in history have been better off than the average US citizen of 2024. (Nobody cares about below average US citizens such as 6ixStringJack or Donald J Trump, except other losers like those two.)

Author Kevin Drum Published on August 14, 2024 – 2:16 pm

https://jabberwocking.com/dont-listen-to-j-d-vance-things-are-fine/

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Thursday, August 15, 2024 7:38 PM

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2.9% is not good either, Ted. And that's a high 2.9% on top of years of ultra-high inflation now.

Your guy destroyed the economy. Those prices will NEVER go back down. We got 12 years of inflation in only 4 years and that will NEVER reverse.

Don't pretend you know anything about this. You're a fucking idiot.

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Too bad that car prices go up, but that happens because car companies set their prices to take from buyers the maximum amount that buyers have. Lower prices would be stupid for a capitalistic car company wanting to be as profitable as the buyers' bank account balances allow in the market for new cars.

Trump's VP, J.D. Vance, says no one can afford a car anymore. As usual, this kind of doom mongering is wrong. It's true that car prices spiked during the pandemic, but here's the long-term picture:


Car affordability goes up and down based on various factors: recessions (2007), factory problems (Fukushima), supply chain problems (COVID), changes in taste (SUVs vs. sedans), and so forth. But the trendline has been dead flat for 30+ years and new car prices are already starting to correct for their pandemic spike.

This is all the more remarkable because you get so much more for the same price these days. Essentially every car made now has: airbags, anti-lock brakes, fuel injection, GPS, infotainment systems, air conditioning, adaptive cruise control, lane keeping, better gas mileage, better reliability, and more.

Things are fine. Politicians and newspapers have incentives to make everything seem bad, but the facts say otherwise. No human beings anywhere in the world at any point in history have been better off than the average US citizen of 2024. (Nobody cares about below average US citizens such as 6ixStringJack or Donald J Trump, except other losers like those two.)

Author Kevin Drum Published on August 14, 2024 – 2:16 pm

https://jabberwocking.com/dont-listen-to-j-d-vance-things-are-fine/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



People in 2018 were way better off than in 2024.

This is why Democrats lose. The Media can spend 4 straight years telling everyone it's all in their imagination, but it's not in anybody's imagination and people are sick of this shit.

The biggest whiners are the college "educated" white people making over $100k per year that keep cranking out article after article that they can't make a living on 6 figures any more. Woe is them.

Me personally? I'm fine.

How was work today, honey?

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Thursday, August 15, 2024 10:43 PM

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People in 2018 were way better off than in 2024.

This is why Democrats lose. The Media can spend 4 straight years telling everyone it's all in their imagination, but it's not in anybody's imagination and people are sick of this shit.

The biggest whiners are the college "educated" white people making over $100k per year that keep cranking out article after article that they can't make a living on 6 figures any more. Woe is them.

Me personally? I'm fine.

How was work today, honey?

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6ix, how can you truthfully say you are doing fine when you are doing nothing with your life, like Trump? You don't pay taxes, like Trump? When you smoke all the time? When you were drunk all the time? When your health is falling apart because you live like an idiot, like fatso Trump? When you must get by on a few thousand dollars per year? 6ix, you are a worthless shithead, just like Trump, which is why you think Trump will rescue you from your screwed up life. If you don't think Trump is screwed up, check with his lawyers. They make a million dollars per week keeping him out of prison.

It is very predictable that all the Trumptards I know are worried about inflation. They should be worried because they have small incomes compared to their expenses and weak control of both their income and expenses since they lack self-control and discipline. 6ixStringJack carries these lacks to the extreme by having no control of anything and no responsibility for anyone.

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Thursday, August 15, 2024 10:45 PM

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Friday, August 16, 2024 5:53 PM

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Housing costs continue to drive inflation even as food price hikes slow

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/08/14/housing-costs-main-inf
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Sunday, August 18, 2024 10:58 PM

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Kamalaflation Pushes Americans To The Brink As Costs Soar Near 20%

https://tippinsights.com/kamalaflation-pushes-americans-to-the-brink-a
s-costs-soar-near-20/#google_vignette


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We are retiring 'Bidenomics' for ‘Kamalanomics’ since Vice President Kamala Harris is the incumbent running for election. She is just as responsible for the current economic conditions as Biden and cannot distance herself from them. Through her tie-breaking votes in the Senate, Harris passed key inflationary legislation, including the Inflation Reduction Act and the American Rescue Plan Act, which added trillions to the national debt.

The dark reality of Kamalanomics is the alarming 19.6% inflation under the President’s watch, which is 5.6% annually. When Biden-Harris took office, inflation was at just 1.4%. Since March 2021, inflation has consistently remained above the Federal Reserve's 2% target for 41 consecutive months.



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Wednesday, August 21, 2024 10:14 AM

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CNN: More and more Americans are worried they will lose their job

https://us.cnn.com/2024/08/19/economy/labor-market-unemployment-ny-fed
-survey/index.html


The unemployment rate is now 4.3% and rising.

I'm surprised that CNN admitted to that. Democrats and the media in general haven't been talking about the unemployment rate for months. Now you know why.

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Thursday, August 22, 2024 10:09 AM

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CNBC: Nonfarm payroll growth revised down by 818,000, Labor Department says

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/21/nonfarm-payroll-growth-revised-down-by
-818000-labor-department-says.html


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As part of its preliminary annual benchmark revisions to the nonfarm payroll numbers, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said the actual job growth was nearly 30% less than the initially reported

The revision to the total payrolls level of -0.5% is the largest since 2009.




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Friday, August 23, 2024 4:08 AM

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Trump Is Promising Cheap Gas. Too Bad Getting It Would Likely Crash The Economy.

Oil industry experts agree there is no way he can deliver $1.70-a-gallon gas without destroying the domestic oil industry and triggering a deep recession.

By S.V. Date | Aug 22, 2024

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donald-trump-half-price-gas-promise-rec
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Donald Trump has taken to promising that he will lower gasoline and energy prices by more than half in his first year back in office.

“Energy costs, all of it, air conditioning, heating, all of it, including gasoline, will drop by more than 50% within the first 12 months,” Trump promised again on Monday in Pennsylvania in what his campaign billed as an economic policy speech. “Your bill will be less than half.”

The problem, industry experts explained, is that energy is bought and sold in a global market, and the only way that gasoline could go from $3.40 a gallon now down to $1.70 a gallon is for crude oil prices to fall from $75 a barrel to between $20 and $30 a barrel. And at those lower prices, U.S. oil producers would not be able to break even.

“That would bankrupt the U.S. industry. And the entire U.S. industry would shut down before that happened,” said one oil executive with decades of experience who spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid antagonizing Trump and his campaign. “It’s classic Trump. He speaks hyperbolically without making any common sense.”

The former president has not provided any details about how he would lower gas prices so dramatically, other than his “Drill, baby, drill” mantra, which he offers as virtually the sole mechanism for his entire economic policy.

His campaign did not respond to HuffPost queries about whether Trump consulted with any actual oil industry leaders before issuing his cheap-energy promise.

Energy industry insiders said they doubt that he did because people with expertise would have told him that what he is suggesting is absurd.

“This kind of thing came out of the political shop,” the oil executive said.

Matt Randolph, another oil industry executive with more than three decades of experience in the business, frequently posts videos on social media lampooning politicians ? both Democrat and Republican ? for their claims about energy.

In a video he posted last week following a previous instance of Trump’s half-price promise, Randolph laughed at Trump’s pledge, laying out a scenario of oil industry layoffs triggering a recession. “This may be one of the dumbest statements that Donald Trump has ever made,” he said in closing.

In an interview with HuffPost, Randolph said that the only way to achieve a price of $1.70 a gallon for regular would be for crude oil prices to come down to $20 a barrel. And that, in turn, would collapse the domestic industry.

“Twenty dollar-a-barrel oil would just decimate new production,” he said, adding that the shutdown of oil production would also crater the production of natural gas, which is often extracted along with oil. “Natural gas prices would actually skyrocket.”

And, with so many power plants now burning methane, that would translate into much more expensive electricity, undermining a second element of Trump’s promise.

With no market mechanism to slash prices that sharply, Trump would be left with government action. “The only other way is massive subsidies to the American consumer,” Randolph said. “And that isn’t going to fly.”

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Saturday, September 14, 2024 3:29 PM

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Americans Are Falling Behind on Their Bills. Wall Street Is Alarmed.
Lenders see a rise in late payments on credit cards and auto loans

https://www.wsj.com/finance/americans-credit-debt-spending-interest-ra
tes-f3836f23?mod=hp_lead_pos4


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Around 9.1% of credit-card balances turned delinquent over the past year, the highest rate in over a decade, according to an August report from the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.

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The average interest rate on a 60-month loan for a new car was 8.2% as of May, according to Fed data, up from 5.3% in 2019.

Over the past year, roughly 8% of auto loans turned delinquent, according to the New York Fed, the highest rate in over a decade.



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Saturday, September 14, 2024 5:56 PM

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What the struggles of dollar stores reveal about low-income America
Discounters often prosper in downturns, but recently they have been hurt by rising costs and their customers’ precarious finances

https://www.ft.com/content/4fd6ae31-520e-4e2b-ae06-4f45218c4fdf?segmen
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At Dollar General, more customers are “resorting to using credit cards for basic household needs,” Vasos told analysts on a recent earnings call. He added that shopper surveys show about 30 per cent have maxed out at least one card and a quarter expect to miss a bill payment in the next six months.

“When things start to move south in the economy, our core customer feels it first,” Vasos said at the Goldman Sachs Global Retailing Conference last week, held in a Manhattan hotel a 25-minute train ride from Newark.




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Tuesday, September 24, 2024 7:00 PM

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The Number

By John Lanchester | September 24, 2024 at 8:00 a.m. EDT

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/interactive/2024/john-lanchest
er-consumer-price-index-who-is-government/?itid=hp_opinions_p001_f015


In all the torrent of data and statistics and numbers produced by the government, I would argue that two in particular stand out. Both are numbers that are made, not found; both involve an extraordinary amount of work, and both are, and always have been, highly controversial. The first is that very same census specified in the enumeration clause of the Constitution. The census is vitally important because any government needs to know how many citizens it has and where they live and who, broadly speaking, they are; in the case of the United States, the census also directly leads to the allocation of power in the House of Representatives. Throughout American history, there has never been a time where the census wasn’t the subject of controversy.

The other number, equally important, is the main official measure of inflation, the consumer price index. At its simplest, the CPI is a vital number because it is used in multiple economic aspects of government: It is used to set levels of Social Security payments, access to payments in the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (formerly food stamps), pensions and tax thresholds. It features in business contracts, in court orders and in divorce settlements. Many millions of workers have salary agreements that alter in direct relationship to the CPI. As the Bureau of Labor Statistics says, “Of all the economic statistics produced by the U.S. federal government, none has a direct impact on the lives of everyday Americans quite like the Consumer Price Index.”







https://jabberwocking.com/raw-data-inflation-in-america/

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Tuesday, September 24, 2024 7:07 PM

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Glad to know that the Government is working overtime to figure out a way to screw seniors and not give them the money they should be getting after inflation.

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Tuesday, September 24, 2024 9:47 PM

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Glad to know that the Government is working overtime to figure out a way to screw seniors and not give them the money they should be getting after inflation.

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Go fuck yourself, 6ix. Seniors get the same inflation adjustment as everybody else equal to the Consumer Price Index, not a larger one especially for the elderly based upon being senile old fools cheated by richer Trumptards who gouge the elderly extra hard compared to younger people.

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Tuesday, September 24, 2024 10:46 PM

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Glad to know that the Government is working overtime to figure out a way to screw seniors and not give them the money they should be getting after inflation.

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Go fuck yourself, 6ix. Seniors get the same inflation adjustment as everybody else equal to the Consumer Price Index, not a larger one especially for the elderly based upon being senile old fools cheated by richer Trumptards who gouge the elderly extra hard compared to younger people.



I know exactly how Social Security increases are derived, scrub.

It's just unfortunate that our corrupt government is doing everything in their power to get people to vote for Harris that they're going to fuck over everybody getting Social Security when it comes to their yearly increases in order to tell this lie to everyone.

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Wednesday, September 25, 2024 6:57 AM

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I know exactly how Social Security increases are derived, scrub.

It's just unfortunate that our corrupt government is doing everything in their power to get people to vote for Harris that they're going to fuck over everybody getting Social Security when it comes to their yearly increases in order to tell this lie to everyone.

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6ix, you are so full of shit. What you want is a special CPI, twice or three times higher than the real CPI, exclusively for unemployed Trumptards. Sorry, not gonna happen despite the retards in your state needing a boost of 2 or 3 or maybe 4 so that the retards can keep up with ordinary people who are not Nazis convinced they deserve better in life, such as yourself.

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Wednesday, September 25, 2024 8:53 AM

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I know exactly how Social Security increases are derived, scrub.

It's just unfortunate that our corrupt government is doing everything in their power to get people to vote for Harris that they're going to fuck over everybody getting Social Security when it comes to their yearly increases in order to tell this lie to everyone.

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6ix, you are so full of shit. What you want is a special CPI, twice or three times higher than the real CPI, exclusively for unemployed Trumptards. Sorry, not gonna happen despite the retards in your state needing a boost of 2 or 3 or maybe 4 so that the retards can keep up with ordinary people who are not Nazis convinced they deserve better in life, such as yourself.

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When do you ever hear me complaining about my life?

You're the miserable little prick going around being a douche bag to everybody who attempts to interact with you everyday here.

BTW... If you need to throw out the word Nazi to try and win an argument in 2024 you've already lost.



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Thursday, September 26, 2024 6:47 PM

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Oh good. We just gave BILLIONS more to Ukraine for nothing.

We even had Josh Shapiro there, arm-in-arm with the NeoCons signing missiles with sharpies before sticking them up each other's asses and blowing each other.

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Friday, September 27, 2024 2:52 PM

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What happened to productivity after the Great Recession (Dec 2007 to June 2009)?

By Kevin Drum | September 26, 2024 – 10:31 pm

The Great Recession produced a sudden and permanent reduction in the growth rate of labor productivity:


Productivity today is 20% lower than it would have been if it had kept growing at its rate of the previous few decades.

But what was the cause of the slowdown? The recession itself? Our tepid response to it? Or was the old growth rate a bubble that we were simply never going to be able to keep up forever?

Whatever the answer, it left a vast amount of wealth on the table. If the old growth rate had continued, median household income would probably be cracking six figures this year instead of just the $80,000 we actually ended up with.

https://jabberwocking.com/what-happened-to-productivity-after-the-grea
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Real Median Household Income in the United States (Adjusted for Inflation)
2023: 80,610
2022: 77,540
2021: 79,260
2020: 79,560
2019: 81,210

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1ur1K

For comparing inflation-adjusted income to current income:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1ur49

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Friday, September 27, 2024 4:26 PM

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What happened to productivity after the Great Recession (Dec 2007 to June 2009)?

By Kevin Drum | September 26, 2024 – 10:31 pm

The Great Recession produced a sudden and permanent reduction in the growth rate of labor productivity:


Productivity today is 20% lower than it would have been if it had kept growing at its rate of the previous few decades.

But what was the cause of the slowdown? The recession itself? Our tepid response to it? Or was the old growth rate a bubble that we were simply never going to be able to keep up forever?



I don't think Kevin understands what Labor Productivity is.

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Friday, September 27, 2024 6:01 PM

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I don't think Kevin understands what Labor Productivity is.

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Since my days in engineering school, people have been telling me they are so much more knowledgeable than the experts. In the case of college, the people claimed to know more than the professors. I'd say to them: "You listen to the voices in your head and I will listen to the professors. In time you and I will see who graduates and who does not." 6ix, in your case, there is no person who will flunk you as way to break through your invincible ignorance. You will keep on thinking you know more than you do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_ignorance_fallacy

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