MAGA movement by SIGNYM

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MAGA movement

POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Monday, November 25, 2024 11:33
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Thursday, November 7, 2024 1:35 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

With all of the focus on Trump, there is almost nothing posted here about MAGA as a movement. But I think MAGA is just as powerful and just as long- lasting as any of the other movements propelled by a majority of the population - environmental movement and women's movement, for example.

MAGA can be interpreted in as many ways as people envision American greatness:
As a world -smothering military hegemon/ "world cop" or as an isolationist nation
As an industrial behemoth belching out pollution to a pristine landscape in environmental harmony

I have my own vision for making America Great Again, and it's not Project 2025, and it's not "America, world cop", and it's not "America, profligate energy-waster" and it's not "America, fascist state".

Given that MAGA might mean many different things, why does "the left" fight MAGA instead of embracing it?

I think I know why, but maybe SECOND and THGR can tell us. And, no, "Trump" is not an answer.

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Thursday, November 7, 2024 5:42 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

I don't know what to make of it at times since I'm not in the USA

but from what I seen of the original Trump he was a populist and an outsider, he leaned Democrat a long time ago but perhaps thought Democrats rigged their own system so ran as a Republican

1There is a general feeling, maybe anger and positive energy to change the United States of America getting ripped off while having pride in their country, get away from war and stop being the world's police force. The policeman of Earth sometimes seen as politically rigged a damned if you do damned if you don't no win situation.
2The tv media...Trump was an outsider and the media antics and dirty tactics are more exposed than ever
3illegals...walls...Respect a country when you go to it, the USA welcomes people but not rapists, gun runners, human traffickers, islamists you name it turning up at the border
4He innovated and improvised his campaign. Donald Trump used social media vs Hillary and they were not prepared instead using the old CNN, Fox, MSNBC and newspaper system

Under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris 'Build Back Better Plan' the world has seen more chaos and war

article

'Why I Underestimated MAGA and What Trump's Win Means for You'
https://www.levelman.com/why-i-underestimated-maga-and-what-trumps-win
-means-for-you/

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why does "the left" fight MAGA instead of embracing it?

I have a feeling but not sure of numbers but I feel that during mini-Bush the big guys in BigTech and BigPharma started to buy up the Democrat party, you see the corruption especially creep in under the Bush-Obama years, the Libertarian Left is gone replaced by fake Leftist Neo-Democrats.

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Thursday, November 7, 2024 6:11 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I haven't even watched Trump's victory speech.

I bet Second and Ted have heard 5 or 10 out of context soundbytes from it a dozen times each already though.

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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

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Thursday, November 7, 2024 9:06 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

You've both put your finger on the problem.

Let's see if THGR and SECOND weigh in.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Saturday, November 16, 2024 11:51 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

after putting the kinfe into the back and sending over the British Labour Party to campaign against Trump?

'Odious, Sad, Little Man:' All The Insults Starmer's Cabinet Have Levelled At Trump Over The Years
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/odious-sad-little-man-insults-100303934.html

Keir Starmer congratulates Donald Trump on ‘historic’ election victory and says ‘I look forward to working with you’
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/31533242/keir-starmer-congratulates-dona
ld-trump/

it seems they have been dug in for years, some say the the Saudi, Jewish of Israel, the British, the other globalists, others say radio and tinseltown joined with Marxists and other stories before this talk of the old Dutch England secret Lodges with Robes and Babylon symbols and Masons

Saudi Arabia's ruler used to be one of Trump's biggest fans. This time it's complicated.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/saudi-arabias-ruler-used-one-165813847.html

MSNBC executive producer Moshe Arenstein was the aforementioned spy working in the MSM. "If you're not sure why the media is so biased when it comes to Israel/Palestine, remember that MSNBC's executive producer was literally an Israeli military intelligence commander," he wrote.
https://www.naturalnews.com/2024-10-30-israeli-spy-revealed-working-wi
thin-mainstream-media.html

King Charles' 'Dying Wish' Is To Address 'Obstinate' Prince Andrew's Issues Before It's Too Late: 'He Has No Other Choice'
https://www.btimesonline.com/articles/170915/20241116/king-charles-dyi
ng-wish-is-to-address-obstinate-prince-andrews-issues-before-its-too-late-he-has-no-other-choice.htm

and a shift from 'The West' new groups APEC and BRICS?

APEC leaders kick off Lima summit
https://japantoday.com/category/world/apec-leaders-to-open-lima-summit
-as-trump-prepares-to-return-to-office#comments

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Sunday, November 17, 2024 12:52 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

Chicago's World Fair?

Colossal statues, ‘freedom’ train & patriot games…Inside Trump’s epic plan for Great American Fair
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/31765887/trump-plan-great-american-fair/

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Sunday, November 17, 2024 4:15 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Colossal statues, ‘freedom’ train & patriot games…Inside Trump’s epic plan for Great American Fair

I heard this the other day and got a pretty good laugh out of it. I still don't know if it's true or not.

A year long party, huh?

I don't know if that's a good idea in a great economy. I'm glad that Trump won and we can stop the bleeding, but unless you've got a magic wand that can fix the economy by mid-summer, you can probably forget about this event making a huge splash for more than about a weekend.

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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

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Monday, November 18, 2024 9:24 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

So, back to the original.

I wondered, why can't"liberal America" get onboard with MAGA?
After all, if you're American, who WOULDN'T want to Make America Great Again?
I'm sure we have different ideas on what that means and how to get there, but the goal itself should appeal to every American who cares about the USA, right?

The problem isn't the goal itself...

Well, there are some liberals who hate America so much they want to see it fail, and some who're convinced that they really are, or should be, "citizens of the world" and tgdt America's interests should be subjugated to world interests.. .

But I think the brick wall is that liberals have been trained... trained like you'd train a dog ... not to think past "Trump", "conervative:, or "populist", or any dog whistles that globalists employ, to further their transnationalist goals. There's nothing wrong with MAGA. Except that it's antithetical to globalism. Bc globalists have been wielding the USA like a stick, to force Americans and the rest of the world, into accepting their world-straddling dominance.

How to come together again?

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Saturday, November 23, 2024 12:32 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

not fans of the Maga movement

Putin and Trump are deluded about one another – and Ukraine will pay the price
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-put
in-trump-deal-b2646164.html

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How to come together again?

it will be dificult seen as mainstream media pushed Pissgate, supported BLM Antifa burning cities and pushed OrangeMan Hitler nonsense

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Saturday, November 23, 2024 4:19 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

I don't know exactly what was going on between Zelensky and Biden* (and Obama before him), and I don't know why Biden*'s son was making $60,000/mo. with a fake board seat at Burisma.

But it's been the Biden*/Harris administration that has seen the death of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men.

Ukraine has already paid the price.

This is the problem when the Democrat narrative is completely divorced from reality and everything they claim is going to happen under Trump is already happening under them.

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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

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Saturday, November 23, 2024 4:37 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I don't know exactly what was going on between Zelensky and Biden* (and Obama before him), and I don't know why Biden*'s son was making $60,000/mo. with a fake board seat at Burisma.

But it's been the Biden*/Harris administration that has seen the death of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men.

Ukraine has already paid the price.

This is the problem when the Democrat narrative is completely divorced from reality and everything they claim is going to happen under Trump is already happening under them.

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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

Kinda simple. Biden/Obama gives 1$B of American Taxpayer confiscated money to Zelensky, Zelensky gives in return $50M to Obiden for his personal bank account. Why is that confusing?

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Saturday, November 23, 2024 7:28 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I don't know exactly what was going on between Zelensky and Biden* (and Obama before him), and I don't know why Biden*'s son was making $60,000/mo. with a fake board seat at Burisma.

But it's been the Biden*/Harris administration that has seen the death of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian men.

Ukraine has already paid the price.

This is the problem when the Democrat narrative is completely divorced from reality and everything they claim is going to happen under Trump is already happening under them.

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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.
Kinda simple. Biden/Obama gives 1$B of American Taxpayer confiscated money to Zelensky, Zelensky gives in return $50M to Obiden for his personal bank account. Why is that confusing?

It's not confusing.

Prove it.

Let's put the people in prison that belong in prison.

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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

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Sunday, November 24, 2024 1:26 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Carlson lamented the dystopian nature of much American life, complaining that “If you can’t use your subway, for example, as many people are afraid to in New York City because it’s too dangerous, you have to sort of wonder like, isn’t that the ultimate measure of leadership?” ...

Public spaces in American cities are, in most cases, grotesque.
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As Democrats continue their soul-searching, and as media and other analysts try to dissect the causes of the enormous Republican victory not quite two weeks ago, one lesson will likely go unlearned. The American people really do want their country to be great again. To them, that doesn’t mean that the United States should be an omnipotent global colossus, striding the globe, enforcing its will on everyone and everything. And it doesn’t mean that Americans should win every gold medal at every Olympics or every Nobel Prize or anything like that. Americans just want their country to work again. They just want their cities to function. They want to be able to build homes or power plants or new factories without having to spend countless months and endless resources complying with arcane and ridiculous regulations. They want their country to look and feel and operate like a normal place again.

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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger

AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA

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Sunday, November 24, 2024 5:04 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

Well at the end of the day, the "melting pot" is what done it.

And they've done that in nearly every country in Europe too.

100 years from now I suspect the only cultures that will have pure blooded people of their heritage in the world will be Japan, Korea and Russia and a few others. There will be large swaths of Africa of as well, of course. But that's only because 90% of that country is 100 years behind everyone else at least, and if that country were at all habitable in a "capitalistic" view, somebody would have already done it by now.

I guess when we're all gray and boring and the same it will be better than everyone hating each other since they've all been thrust at one another and our government has been working hard my entire lifetime to make sure that everyone is invading everyone else's spaces and making sure that everyone is as big of an asshole as possible while doing it too.

Orwell saw all of that coming decades before I was born.

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Trump is fine.
He is also your current President.

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Monday, November 25, 2024 7:35 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

remember a guy with a nice name and ticked the African American diverse box? Philip Washington??

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/bidens-pick-lead-faa-wi
thdraws-shaky-senate-support-rcna76696

could not answer a single question about Aircraft coming into Airports

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Monday, November 25, 2024 11:33 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

Pelosi's daughter is still counting in California?

2 seats left uncalled, maybe next month

predictions of a sandbox that won't evolve

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There will never be peace in the Middle East.

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