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Justin Trudeau Resigns
Monday, January 6, 2025 12:34 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Monday, January 6, 2025 1:10 PM
BRENDA
Monday, January 6, 2025 2:50 PM
Monday, January 6, 2025 3:05 PM
JAYNEZTOWN
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: This was a long time coming. One more correct prediction under my belt.
Quote:Eventually, all things merge into one, and a river runs through it. The river was cut by the world's great flood and runs over rocks from the basement of time. On some of the rocks are timeless raindrops. Under the rocks are the words, and some of the words are theirs. I am haunted by waters.
Monday, January 6, 2025 3:21 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilievre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year. I will hear all about it on the news tonight.
Monday, January 6, 2025 4:04 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Good riddance. This was a long time coming. One more correct prediction under my belt. Fuck you Justin.
Monday, January 6, 2025 4:23 PM
Monday, January 6, 2025 5:23 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilivre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year. I will hear all about it on the news tonight.
Monday, January 6, 2025 6:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilivre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year. I will hear all about it on the news tonight. How do you see Poilivre? ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
Monday, January 6, 2025 6:35 PM
Monday, January 6, 2025 9:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilivre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year. I will hear all about it on the news tonight. SIGNY: How do you see Poilivre? BRENDA: I see Poilievre as almost a Republican in your sense. He's too far right for my taste.
Quote: At least we have at least three Premiers that he won't want to really deal with and that is Doug Ford, who has threatened to shut down electricity to the states bordering us. 2nd could be David Eby, who is the Premier of my province. You need our soft wood for building. This has been a bone of contention since I was a kid. US puts tariffs on it then we retaliate. Back and forth. 3rd could be the Premier of Alberta Danielle Smith. Oil and gas rich Alberta, which is sold to the US. Even though she is a Conservative like Doug Ford, she might put up a fight.
Monday, January 6, 2025 11:56 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilivre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year. I will hear all about it on the news tonight. SIGNY: How do you see Poilivre? BRENDA: I see Poilievre as almost a Republican in your sense. He's too far right for my taste. I hope you'll tell me more about this. Is he fiscally conservative? i.e. wanting to cut the national budget? If so, does he have his axe sharpened for health care? Or any other particular program? Is he socially conservative? i.e. wanting to get back to "old fashioned values" of man-eoman marriage? Is he nationalistic? "Canada for Canadians?" Anti-immigrant? Against first nations heritage? Is he economically conservative? Full-on pro- industry and commodity extraction, global warming and environmental concerns be damned? Is he isolationist? Withdraw from the rest of the world? How does he view the USA under Trump? Potential partner? Frenemy? Quote: At least we have at least three Premiers that he won't want to really deal with and that is Doug Ford, who has threatened to shut down electricity to the states bordering us. 2nd could be David Eby, who is the Premier of my province. You need our soft wood for building. This has been a bone of contention since I was a kid. US puts tariffs on it then we retaliate. Back and forth. 3rd could be the Premier of Alberta Danielle Smith. Oil and gas rich Alberta, which is sold to the US. Even though she is a Conservative like Doug Ford, she might put up a fight.
Monday, January 6, 2025 11:59 PM
Tuesday, January 7, 2025 3:27 AM
Quote:Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilivre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year. I will hear all about it on the news tonight. SIGNY: How do you see Poilivre? BRENDA: I see Poilievre as almost a Republican in your sense. He's too far right for my taste. I hope you'll tell me more about this. Is he fiscally conservative? i.e. wanting to cut the national budget? If so, does he have his axe sharpened for health care? Or any other particular program? Is he socially conservative? i.e. wanting to get back to "old fashioned values" of man-eoman marriage? Is he nationalistic? "Canada for Canadians?" Anti-immigrant? Against first nations heritage? Is he economically conservative? Full-on pro- industry and commodity extraction, global warming and environmental concerns be damned? Is he isolationist? Withdraw from the rest of the world? How does he view the USA under Trump? Potential partner? Frenemy? Quote: At least we have at least three Premiers that he won't want to really deal with and that is Doug Ford, who has threatened to shut down electricity to the states bordering us. 2nd could be David Eby, who is the Premier of my province. You need our soft wood for building. This has been a bone of contention since I was a kid. US puts tariffs on it then we retaliate. Back and forth. 3rd could be the Premier of Alberta Danielle Smith. Oil and gas rich Alberta, which is sold to the US. Even though she is a Conservative like Doug Ford, she might put up a fight. Always interested in learning about our great neighbor to the north!
Quote: BRENDA Don't think he has mentioned cutting programs in the national budget. But he could try and ramp up our military spending. I'm just not sure the Canadian economy could handle that without maybe taking a bite out of something.
Quote:nHe doesn't hit me as socially conservative but I haven't heard him speak in campaign mode. Yet. So have to see on that one. Trudeau had scaled back immigration before he resigned and Poilievre could cut it back more. First Nations have a grand council and grand chief who deals with Ottawa and that has always been contentious and he could make that more so.
Quote: In the last years there have been deals over pipe lines for oil like Key Stone. That he was against but that more to do with what the government paid for the line.
Quote: He might try to pull us back from somethings, like say Ukraine.
Quote: He has said that he sees the USA under Trump as a potential partner.
Quote: Okay, lets call Poilievre Republican-lite until the election and I can get a better handle on what he actually thinks.
Quote: *Ford is from Ontario and states like Wisconsin and Michigan get a lot of energy from there. So, he could put the brakes on it and water."
Quote: Eby as I said is from my province of BC and a lot of our soft wood goes down there. When we put prices up on the wood, down there a tariff is placed on it then we find something from the US to put a tariff on. I've been watching this since I was child. Back and forth, like a ping pong match.
Quote: Now, I should point out that I don't like Danielle Smith because she is a Conservative and I think she is making a mess out of Alberta in my eyes. She wanted to cut health care in Alberta and was ready to battle Ottawa over it. All the provinces can do with healthcare payments from Ottawa is decide what it is used on. Anyway I digress and I have a soft spot for Alberta. My dad was from there. Oil and gas from Alberta is sold in the US, so she too could turn off the taps.
Tuesday, January 7, 2025 4:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN: 51st State or British Colony predictions threads? Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: This was a long time coming. One more correct prediction under my belt. Everyone predicted this, he's been in power almost forever so you are not allowed take credits on this one.
Tuesday, January 7, 2025 4:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Chrystia Freeland, rabid anti-Russian Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Finance, quit Trudeau's wildly unpopular government Dec 17, 2024. https://apnews.com/article/finance-minister-chrystia-freeland-resigns-trudeau-a8355a62870edd962fee8138dc6bfc77 She was widely considered the brains behind woke, globalist, boy-puppet Trudeau. Not knowing Canadian politics, IDK if her resignation caused Trudeau to quit, or if it was a "rats leaving a sinking ship" indication of a government already falling apart. "Why is Trudeau so unpopular?" search result https://inews.co.uk/news/world/justin-trudeau-unpopular-canada-prime-minister-3464282 ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
Tuesday, January 7, 2025 1:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Since it has happened all we Canadians do is hope that Pierre Poilivre doesn't get in. We have a Federal election coming up at some point this year. I will hear all about it on the news tonight. SIGNY: How do you see Poilivre? BRENDA: I see Poilievre as almost a Republican in your sense. He's too far right for my taste. I hope you'll tell me more about this. Is he fiscally conservative? i.e. wanting to cut the national budget? If so, does he have his axe sharpened for health care? Or any other particular program? Is he socially conservative? i.e. wanting to get back to "old fashioned values" of man-eoman marriage? Is he nationalistic? "Canada for Canadians?" Anti-immigrant? Against first nations heritage? Is he economically conservative? Full-on pro- industry and commodity extraction, global warming and environmental concerns be damned? Is he isolationist? Withdraw from the rest of the world? How does he view the USA under Trump? Potential partner? Frenemy? Quote: At least we have at least three Premiers that he won't want to really deal with and that is Doug Ford, who has threatened to shut down electricity to the states bordering us. 2nd could be David Eby, who is the Premier of my province. You need our soft wood for building. This has been a bone of contention since I was a kid. US puts tariffs on it then we retaliate. Back and forth. 3rd could be the Premier of Alberta Danielle Smith. Oil and gas rich Alberta, which is sold to the US. Even though she is a Conservative like Doug Ford, she might put up a fight. Always interested in learning about our great neighbor to the north! Quote: BRENDA Don't think he has mentioned cutting programs in the national budget. But he could try and ramp up our military spending. I'm just not sure the Canadian economy could handle that without maybe taking a bite out of something. I can't imagine why he'd want to increase military spending. Unless he's trying to protect Canada's southern border from those horrible loudmouth Americans who keep sneaking over. Quote:nHe doesn't hit me as socially conservative but I haven't heard him speak in campaign mode. Yet. So have to see on that one. Trudeau had scaled back immigration before he resigned and Poilievre could cut it back more. First Nations have a grand council and grand chief who deals with Ottawa and that has always been contentious and he could make that more so. That could be a problem. Here in the states, the Federal government has a history of taking resources away from indigenes. Even today, if something (shale oil, right of way) valuable is found on native land. I hope that doesnt happen there. Quote: In the last years there have been deals over pipe lines for oil like Key Stone. That he was against but that more to do with what the government paid for the line. what do you think about pipelines transporting (what I assume is) tar sands oil? I've read that alot of farmers and ranchers are against them bc tar sands have a lot of sulfur in them, and leaking H2S has sickened herds. Quote: He might try to pull us back from somethings, like say Ukraine. I certainly hope so. I'm not sure OUR budget can stand the expense. Seems not a good deal for Canada either. Quote: He has said that he sees the USA under Trump as a potential partner. That might be naive. Trump is for Trump and the USA. I can't imagine Trump "partnering" with anyone except Israel. Likely to be a one-way relationship. Quote: Okay, lets call Poilievre Republican-lite until the election and I can get a better handle on what he actually thinks. Cool! Let me know, if you got the time. I'm always curious (my family says "nosy") about whassup. Quote: *Ford is from Ontario and states like Wisconsin and Michigan get a lot of energy from there. So, he could put the brakes on it and water." I remember his brother. Wild and crazy, and high on cocaine they say. I hope THIS Ford is a little calmer! Quote: Eby as I said is from my province of BC and a lot of our soft wood goes down there. When we put prices up on the wood, down there a tariff is placed on it then we find something from the US to put a tariff on. I've been watching this since I was child. Back and forth, like a ping pong match. Huh! I never knew! I know wood prices have gone up hugely since Covid. Same price increase up there? Quote: Now, I should point out that I don't like Danielle Smith because she is a Conservative and I think she is making a mess out of Alberta in my eyes. She wanted to cut health care in Alberta and was ready to battle Ottawa over it. All the provinces can do with healthcare payments from Ottawa is decide what it is used on. Anyway I digress and I have a soft spot for Alberta. My dad was from there. Oil and gas from Alberta is sold in the US, so she too could turn off the taps. Yeah, I guess bc of Trump's threatened tariffs, Canadian pols and looking for a way to hurt USA back. Yanno, Canada is a lot like Russia: bountiful resources, not overpopulated. Even better: well developed infrastructure and educated people. Unfortunately too tied into USA trade, finance, and politics. And with the USA having gone nuts over the past 30 years or so ... and probably continuing to thrash around for the foreseeable future ... Canada just gets pulled into all the craziness. Picking a fight with China. Ukraine. Real estate speculation. Woke-ism. At least you're not hemorrhaging money into Israel, and trying to maintain a world empire and currency hegemony. AND, YOU HAVE NATIONAL HEALTH CARE! ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
Tuesday, January 7, 2025 2:37 PM
Tuesday, January 7, 2025 5:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Just as an aside: One of my other Canadian friends grew up in Rainy River, ONT. Seems like now they're trying to control the border by putting up gates at the border crossing, but also seems hardly worthwhile with miles and miles of (beautiful) forest on either side ----------- "It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal." - Henry Kissinger AMERICANS SUPPORT AMERICA
Tuesday, January 7, 2025 6:32 PM
Tuesday, January 7, 2025 7:23 PM
Wednesday, January 8, 2025 1:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: It's nice that Canada gets to have healthcare because the US spends all its money on military. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Wednesday, January 8, 2025 2:38 PM
Wednesday, January 8, 2025 6:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Healthcare cost 1/100th of what it does today before you were born. There is no other expense that has risen even close to how much above inflation healthcare has increased since 1980. This wasn't a dig at Canada specifically. This is a dig at every Western World country that gets to do things like Universal Healthcare while looking down at America because they don't have to fund any meaningful military with the US playing world police. It's frustrating. We need to stop doing that. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Wednesday, January 8, 2025 6:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Okay, I do know that cost of healthcare has risen since I was born. All over the world its risen.
Quote:Canadian military being looked down on bugs me. We might not have the biggest military in the world but our forces are well trained. The idea of peace keeping troops was Canadian. We were in Cyprus for I don't know how long. We've been in Africa. We've tried in the last few years to help Haiti. We've had our troops in the middle east.
Wednesday, January 8, 2025 6:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Healthcare cost 1/100th of what it does today before you were born. There is no other expense that has risen even close to how much above inflation healthcare has increased since 1980. This wasn't a dig at Canada specifically. This is a dig at every Western World country that gets to do things like Universal Healthcare while looking down at America because they don't have to fund any meaningful military with the US playing world police. It's frustrating. We need to stop doing that. -------------------------------------------------- "I don't find this stuff amusing anymore." ~Paul Simon
Wednesday, January 8, 2025 6:23 PM
Wednesday, January 8, 2025 7:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by Brenda: Okay, I do know that cost of healthcare has risen since I was born. All over the world its risen. That's an understatement, at least in the US. My brother had a brain hemmorage which required surgery from the top neuro-surgeon in the country, and he spent the next 4 months in the hospital with 3 different physical therapists visiting him for an hour every day. The entire bill for that, around 35 years ago, was under $100,000. It would have been $10 Million today. Today you go to get an ultrasound for testicular cancer and they will charge you $5,000 just to have KY jelly applied to your testicals and a 2 minute scan on a computer screen. That doesn't include the initial doctor consultation where you got the script for the procedure, or the followup appointment with the doctor. Quote:Canadian military being looked down on bugs me. We might not have the biggest military in the world but our forces are well trained. The idea of peace keeping troops was Canadian. We were in Cyprus for I don't know how long. We've been in Africa. We've tried in the last few years to help Haiti. We've had our troops in the middle east.
Wednesday, January 8, 2025 8:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: We need to rethink how much $$$ we hemorrhage into NATO. And if NATO nations don't want to pony up for the cost of being in NATO, maybe they should rethink their membership. That's not being snippy. One of the reasons why NATO nations can get hysterical about the "Russian threat" is bc they don't have to bear the cost. So they can mentally balloon up the threat to astronomical proportions bc, well, America will always step in and "save them". So instead of addressing their security in a real way, including negotiations with Russia, they turn it into a giant boondoggle. It's a money-making scam for the MIC and Eurocrats, if you ask me. IMHO Canada's risk of a Russian invasion (or Chinese, for that matter) is nil. I honestly don't see why Canada has be a part of NATO. But SIX, don't make this all a NATO problem. The USA has 800+ installations and full-on bases all over the world, many nothing to do with NATO. (Japan, S Korea, Syria, Jordan, misc places in Africa etc etc.) More money-making scam for the MIC, Joint Chiefs, Congress etc etc Seems we could pare a lot of that down.
Wednesday, January 8, 2025 11:10 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Thursday, January 9, 2025 4:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Fidel Jr. didn't;t really resign, right? He just did that to avoid being removed, so he can retain the power.
Thursday, January 9, 2025 4:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: We need to rethink how much $$$ we hemorrhage into NATO. And if NATO nations don't want to pony up for the cost of being in NATO, maybe they should rethink their membership. That's not being snippy. One of the reasons why NATO nations can get hysterical about the "Russian threat" is bc they don't have to bear the cost. So they can mentally balloon up the threat to astronomical proportions bc, well, America will always step in and "save them". So instead of addressing their security in a real way, including negotiations with Russia, they turn it into a giant boondoggle. It's a money-making scam for the MIC and Eurocrats, if you ask me. IMHO Canada's risk of a Russian invasion (or Chinese, for that matter) is nil. I honestly don't see why Canada has be a part of NATO. But SIX, don't make this all a NATO problem. The USA has 800+ installations and full-on bases all over the world, many nothing to do with NATO. (Japan, S Korea, Syria, Jordan, misc places in Africa etc etc.) More money-making scam for the MIC, Joint Chiefs, Congress etc etc Seems we could pare a lot of that down. SIX: I didn't make this a NATO problem, nor did I praise or otherwise glorify our military might. NATO should be dissolved, and America should start that by withdrawing completely, forever. Nobody on earth is going to mess with Canada because they're our baby brother and we have a majority of the nukes and ordinance, plus a yearly military budget that outspends every competitive nation in the world combined. So it's really easy for Canadians to brag about universal healthcare when they don't ever even have to consider spending any of their tax dollars on military budgets. Just like it is for everybody in Europe that only get to do it because OUR military that ONLY WE pay for is obscene. My point is that all the free shit everywhere else ends instantaneously if America pulls out and tells everyone else that they're on their own against the Russias and the Chinas and the North Koreas and the Muslims, etc. There is no argument to that statement. This is an objective fact. Everybody else gets to pretend they're living in Progressive Utopias and blow their budgets on Communist experiments every year because they've got Papa USA all up in everyone's asshole 24/7/365. And they've got it so good they can go around the last two decades calling white males who built everything for them the "bad guys". We'll see who the bad guys are when America announces they're no longer playing world police. SPOILER ALERT 1: Most of the bad guys out there in 2024 aren't white. SPOILER ALERT 2: When the wars start happening, your "Progressive" leaders already let in the first wave of combatants with open arms and used our tax dollars to house and feed them until the war started.
Thursday, January 9, 2025 6:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: I agree with some and disagree with some. The part I disagree with is the idea that the USA is "protecting" anybody.
Quote:Nobody, not Canadians and not Eurocrats, should be under the illusion that the USA can protect even a few of them, let alone all of them, against a concerted attack. The whole concept of USA protection is a just a security blanket for childish foreign pols who want to believe fairy tales.
Quote:More importantly, they - and we- exaggerate the hell out of the "threats" that we're supposedly facing. Iran doesn't pose a threat to us, Europe, or Canada. Neither did Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, or Libya. Neither does China or Russia, unless we seriously threaten their security and require them to react. I think everyone should calm the fuck down about the USA reducing its military support and take a realistic view of the ACTUAL security threats they're facing, and stop fearing the boogeymen that the MIC is always trying to scare us with.
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