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JAYNEZTOWN


Polish MP honors Iryna Zarutska - slain by a homeless black man in Charlotte - in parliament wearing a ‘White Lives Matter’ t-shirt

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Two men arrested in Utah after explosives found under Fox 13 car near Charlie Kirk murder site
Police said the device “was lit but did not detonate as intended.”
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The suspects are 58-year-old Adib Nasir and 31-year-old Adil Justice Ahme Nasir.
A search uncovered fake weapons of mass destruction, which the men initially tried to pass off as real, along with explosives, firearms, drugs, and other illegal items.

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Monday, September 15, 2025 9:25 AM

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This was a double post I'm filling it with this story.


Top 5 Most Awful Things You Need to Know About Stephen Miller
Published: Jul 16, 2025

Few political figures have shaped U.S. immigration policy as destructively as Stephen Miller. During Donald Trump’s first term, Miller served as Senior Adviser and Speechwriter. Now he’s back as Trump’s Deputy Chief of Staff and continues to play a major role behind the scenes.

From white nationalist sympathies to cruelty-as-policy tactics, Miller’s record is a roadmap of ideological extremism. If you’re not familiar with his messy history, here’s what you need to know:

1. Architect of Family Separation

Miller was the chief architect of the Trump Administration “zero tolerance” immigration policy, which led to the forced separation of thousands of children from their parents at the southern border. According to Vanity Fair, “Stephen actually enjoys seeing those pictures at the border.” His own words on the policy? He called it a “simple decision.”

Even now, hundreds of children remain separated from their families. The policy was condemned by the United Nations and numerous human rights organizations as cruel, unnecessary, and a violation of international law.

2. White Nationalist Ties

During Trump’s first term, leaked emails revealed that Miller frequently shared white nationalist talking points and publications, including content from VDARE and the Camp of the Saints – a notoriously racist and anti-immigrant novel embraced by far-right extremists.

The Southern Poverty Law Center characterized Miller’s communications as “open white nationalism.” Over 100 members of Congress called for his resignation; however, Trump stood behind him along with many of the GOP.

3. A Career Built on Bigotry

Before entering the White House, Miller worked under Senator Jeff Sessions, helping craft policies aimed at rolling back civil rights, weakening voting protections, and targeting marginalized communities. His work in government has consistently targeted people of color, immigrants, and LGBTQ+ Americans.

In 2023, Miller’s legal group, America First Legal, filed a complaint accusing Kellogg’s of “politicizing and sexualizing its products” simply for releasing a Pride-themed Pop-Tarts box and featuring RuPaul’s image on Cheez-Its. That’s the kind of manufactured outrage Miller uses to push his far-right agenda. His rhetoric directly fuels discrimination and violence against already vulnerable groups.

4. Ethical Conflicts with Anti-Immigration Groups

During his first term in the White House, Miller routinely collaborated with anti-immigration hate groups like the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) and the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), both of which have deep ties to white nationalist ideologies.

Miller elevated their ideas into national policy, blurring the line between governance and extremist ideology, resulting in sweeping deportations and a normalization of xenophobia at the highest levels of government.

5. Long History of Harmful Rhetoric

Miller’s inflammatory tone isn’t new, it dates back to his days at Duke University, where he penned right-wing columns attacking diversity, tolerance, and liberalism. In one article, he mocked Duke’s efforts toward inclusion, calling the school’s climate a “shameful deficiency.”

That same combative style carried into his work for Trump, helping shape speeches and policies that escalated racial and cultural divides. His influence isn’t just about policy– it’s about poisonously reshaping the national conversation.

Stephen Miller is a central figure in shaping the Trump Administration’s agenda. From enabling state violence against immigrant families to promoting white nationalist rhetoric in government, his career is a warning of what happens when bigotry gains institutional power.

https://www.commoncause.org/articles/top-5-most-awful-things-you-need-
to-know-about-stephen-miller
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Yet Comrade signym wants up to believe she never heard of this guy.

too funny...


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Monday, September 15, 2025 9:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by THG:

If you believe this guy, if you want to help him destroy democracy in America, then you are a very angry and self-destructive person.



Oh, so NOW you worry about baseless attacks? Yanno, what you and SECOND (and WISHY, and a whole host of "liberals" here) have been doing all along?

TOO FUNNY!!

SOW THE WIND, REAP THE WHIRLWIND.






Stephen Miller has been widely criticized for his bigoted comments and policies, particularly regarding immigration, which reflect a white nationalist ideology. And again signym, you cut who, what, I was posting about so you could come to the aid of a white nationalist. That title sums you up as well comrade.





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Monday, September 15, 2025 9:25 AM

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This was a double post. I filled it with this


Loyalist

Listen to this Article

The cruel world according to Stephen Miller.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/stephen-miller-hatemonger-b
iography
/

Rush Limbaugh, took off nationwide during the 1990s and stoked racist and xenophobic sentiment for anyone inclined to listen to it.

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Monday, September 15, 2025 9:34 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Stephen Miller has been widely criticized for his bigoted comments and policies, particularly regarding immigration, which reflect a white nationalist ideology. And again, you cut who, what, I was posting about so you could come to the aid of a white nationalist. That title sums you up as well comrade.


IDK Stephen Miller, but everything he said in that video -except the part about there being a heaven - is true.

Didn't hear any "white nationalism" in that video either, and since you lie like a rug about opposing viewpoints, I'm not gonna believe you. Imagine that.



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

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Monday, September 15, 2025 9:44 AM

THG

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Stephen Miller has been widely criticized for his bigoted comments and policies, particularly regarding immigration, which reflect a white nationalist ideology. And again, you cut who, what, I was posting about so you could come to the aid of a white nationalist. That title sums you up as well comrade.


IDK Stephen Miller, but everything he said in that video -except the part about there being a heaven - is true.

Didn't hear any "white nationalism" in that video either, and since you lie like a rug about opposing viewpoints, I'm not gonna believe you. Imagine that.









I guess IDK means I don't know Stephen Miller. He has been within the heart of Trumps’ first administration and now his second. He has been the driving force behind immigration all this time.

You have been posting about our politics and Trump, along with his cabinet all this time. Yet you want us to believe you "IDK" Stephen Miller.

Full of shit sums you up as well as someone who supports White Nationalists comrade, full of shit.

T


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Monday, September 15, 2025 11:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Stephen Miller is the man.

We're kicking out every single illegal alien invader and their kids.

And there's not a goddamned thing you can do about it now, screen bitch.

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The Democrats are the party of Murder.

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Monday, September 15, 2025 1:11 PM

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Double post

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Monday, September 15, 2025 1:11 PM

THG

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
If you believe this guy, if you want to help him destroy democracy in America, then you are a very angry and self-destructive person.

SIGNY:
Oh, so NOW you worry about baseless attacks? Yanno, what you and SECOND (and WISHY, and a whole host of "liberals" here) have been doing all along?
TOO FUNNY!!

SIX:
How about we just report both Second and Ted here and let them figure it out?
https://www.charliesmurderers.com/

SIGNY:
SOW THE WIND, REAP THE WHIRLWIND.

THGR:
I'm giving you and Jack enough rope to hang yourselves. Then I will contact Haken and let him know Jack and you are soliciting right wing attack sites to come here and attack his members. G, wonder how that will go over with him?




If all name-calling was removed from this site, there'd be nothing left of your posts. But you can't stand behind your insults and defamation, so you go running off to daddy???

I think you're a coward and a mental midget, and you've always been one. That's why you bury yourself deep the into the establishment herd.

So go ahead, son. Run off to daddy. And then prove that we did what you say we did.






Says the guy who hooked up with the worst lying sack of shit ever to troll a site like this. And, you decided to help him bring others from other sites affiliated with the far far fringes of lunacy, to attack posters at firefly.

Are you kidding me?

T


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Monday, September 15, 2025 1:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
If you believe this guy, if you want to help him destroy democracy in America, then you are a very angry and self-destructive person.

SIGNY:
Oh, so NOW you worry about baseless attacks? Yanno, what you and SECOND (and WISHY, and a whole host of "liberals" here) have been doing all along?
TOO FUNNY!!

SIX:
How about we just report both Second and Ted here and let them figure it out?
https://www.charliesmurderers.com/

SIGNY:
SOW THE WIND, REAP THE WHIRLWIND.

THGR:
I'm giving you and Jack enough rope to hang yourselves. Then I will contact Haken and let him know Jack and you are soliciting right wing attack sites to come here and attack his members. G, wonder how that will go over with him?




If all name-calling was removed from this site, there'd be nothing left of your posts. But you can't stand behind your insults and defamation, so you go running off to daddy???

I think you're a coward and a mental midget, and you've always been one. That's why you bury yourself deep the into the establishment herd.

So go ahead, son. Run off to daddy. And then prove that we did what you say we did.






Says the guy who hooked up with the worst lying sack of shit ever to troll a site like this. And, you decided to help him bring others from other sites affiliated with the far far fringes of lunacy, to attack posters at firefly.

Are you kidding me?

T




I bring facts. I bring math. I bring numbers. I bring full videos without out-of-context soundbytes.

I've been right about literally EVERYTHING since November of last year, and everything you've posted here since then has turned out to be fake news.

You are Evil personified.

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The Democrats are the party of Murder.

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Monday, September 15, 2025 2:01 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


I dont get Miller he is Jazz and Modern and Jewish and Calvin Coolidge...but I dont get him, I think he's paid? Stephen Miller is a well known performance stage-monkey, he might be a mouth piece for the Shaddeg Goldwater Institute or money bag man for NeoCon Michele Bachmann who still believes that the 2003 invasion of Iraq was justified and thinks Nukes might be a possible way to deal with Iranians, Miller doesnt get along with all the Trump team and called Steve Bannon's comments about the Trump Tower meeting in Michael Wolff's book Fire and Fury "grotesque", I often dont agree with Bannon but there is stuff Bannon has said I agree with and some of this back stabbing and infighting is suspicious. The travel thing the "Muslim Ban" I have no problem with and Trump banned North Korea and Venezuela so, No, its not a muslim ban, and Trump should have banned even more muslim jihadi islamo nation. I also have no problem that sMiller recommended that Breitbart people read the book The Camp of the Saints, I hear its a good book so it should not be banned unlike what some open border Leftist Socialist pro islamo lunatics desire.

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Monday, September 15, 2025 3:11 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by THGR:

Stephen Miller has been widely criticized for his bigoted comments and policies, particularly regarding immigration, which reflect a white nationalist ideology. And again, you cut who, what, I was posting about so you could come to the aid of a white nationalist. That title sums you up as well comrade.

SIGNY:
IDK Stephen Miller, but everything he said in that video -except the part about there being a heaven - is true.
Didn't hear any "white nationalism" in that video either, and since you lie like a rug about opposing viewpoints, I'm not gonna believe you. Imagine that.


THGR:
I guess IDK means I don't know Stephen Miller.



Well, that's one thing you got right!


Quote:

THGR:
He has been within the heart of Trumps’ first administration and now his second. He has been the driving force behind immigration all this time.
You have been posting about our politics and Trump, along with his cabinet all this time. Yet you want us to believe you "IDK" Stephen Miller.
Full of shit sums you up as well as someone who supports White Nationalists comrade, full of shit.


As one thing you got MASSIVELY wrong. Stick to your day job, bc you suck at mind- reading!


I don't visit rightwing news sites, I don't listen to Fox, and I don't pay the slightest attention to mainstream unless you or SECOND bring the headlines here, and SECOND tends to focus on Ukraine and Paul Krugman. I thought immigration policy was all Trump.

But FWIW I did look up Miller, and ... yeah, for sure he's a hard-ass on immigration. There's a crapton of stuff on him and Crockett, and it seems to center on one ten-year old boy, the globalists' poster child, literally, for mass illegal immigration.

Mass illegal immigration. Biden* was obviously promoting it. As, not coincidentally are all the globalist puppet- Presidents, Prime Ministers, and Chancellors across the EU. Looking at their policies and data, it really IS a globalist international conspiracy. Why the hell do you think that there's a resurgence of anti-immigration, nationalist, and nativist feeling across the entire western world right now???


So, are you saying we shouldn't reverse that anti-American policy?

I have a question for you: How does a 10-year old make it all the way thru the Darien Gap by himself?

The answer is: He doesn't.

Somebody paid good money to get that boy here. That's human trafficking. And many of those children are brought here by coyotes, who then farm them out to field work, meatpacking plants, and sweatshops if they're lucky, or god knows what else if they're not, to pay (and pay, and pay) for their transit fee.

We would be doing good if we shut off that tap. Save asylum for LEGITIMATE cases ... i.e. political persecution.

One more thing: People from other nations really DO have a different set of ethics, what they see as right and wrong. Hardcore Muslim nations really don't believe women should have equal rights, equal education etc. Impoverished nations south of our border are far too accustomed to everyday corruption and bribe- taking (la mordida, "the little bite")

Quote:

Mordidas without end: Mexicans hand over bribes 18,500 times a day to cops public servants
Mexicans pay almost 18,500 bribes per day to police officers and public servants, a new survey suggests.

Based on the results of the most recent National Survey on Urban Public Security, the national statistics agency INEGI estimates that 2.9 million people paid some 3.4 million bribes in the second half of last year.

The estimate equates to the payment of 771 bribes per hour or 13 per minute.

Known in Mexico as mordidas, bribes are frequently sought by employees at government offices who deal with members of the public seeking to complete bureaucratic procedures and by police officers who have stopped people for offenses such as running a red light or drinking in the street.

The INEGI data shows that the payment and receipt of mordidas continues to be the most ubiquitous form of corruption in Mexico.



That ubiquitous lawlessness is part of the reason why Latin Americans feel they CAN move here, bc immigration law is just another law to evade. Plus, many feel it's their RIGHT to move here, bc the USA OWES them for over century of rapaciousness and interference.

There are two parts of my answer to illegal immigration.

The first is, and has always been: We should stop fucking around in, destabilizing, bombing, invading other nations.
Do they want to go Communist? Fine. Do they want to try libertarianism? Fine. Do they want to dive into free-trade globalism? Fine. Are they run by a tyrant who oppresses the people? Not so fine, but NOT OUR BUSINESSES. We've left too many nations in ruins on the excuse of R2P. STOP MAKING REFUGEES. I literally can't think of a single nation after 1960 that we improved by "intervening", can you?

The second is: Once we are morally and practically clear of the refugee-making business, HARD line on illegal and legal immigration. If we are CLEAR about our policies and if we ENFORCE them, coyotes will stop trafficking people across our border bc demand will drop, and we will have no more "unaccompanied" minors being ferried across our borders.

Capisce?



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"It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal."- Henry Kissinger

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