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Yeah. I also like watching snow falling too. That's pretty good as well.

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I used to until I owned a home.

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I know and I live in a province where outside of fishing, logging was the other big industry. We have been replanting trees here but we are far behind the game it isn't funny at times. And a seedling has to be in the ground over 20years before it is ready to be logged. Which is why the logging companies want to go onto protected lands. Not good. There are trees in my province that are between 500-1,000years old and they are huuge both in trunk width and just height. Those are called "Old Growth" and are protected.

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Huh...

Not trying to get political or anything, but perhaps tariffs on Canada for lumber would actually deter some of that potential behavior?

How good are the local/regional/countrywide politicians when it comes to protecting all of that. Do you trust those in power to keep good on those promises.

Native Tribes and promises aside, nobody should ever think of touching trees with that kind of history anywhere in the world that they're still growing is my belief. Regrow everywhere we can, and use that to replenish our needs. We don't need to destroy everything with history like this. Because if we do that, we'll still be in the same position we were, short on everything we need, but now nothing is still left that wouldn't take another 5 to 15 lifetimes to regrow from scratch, assuming that our planet is even capable of doing that under different circumstances than those which these large trees flourished.

I would think if it's too expensive for logging companies in Canada to even consider cutting that stuff down, it can't be a bad thing. I don't even know, Brenda... are there even still tariffs against Canadian lumber imports?

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I'm still here and still stuck. Will go back and read what you said. I've written down what you said. I wish I knew what I did. I know my hands have been shaking. Both of them and I know this has nothing to do with anything but I brought up a menu about sticky keys. That came up because my pinky on left hand was shaking on a letter key.

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I'm still here and still stuck. Will go back and read what you said. I've written down what you said. I wish I knew what I did. I know my hands have been shaking. Both of them and I know this has nothing to do with anything but I brought up a menu about sticky keys. That came up because my pinky on left hand was shaking on a letter key.

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Honestly, if nothing else works you can just hold down the power button until your computer shuts off and then start it up again and it should work.

I just don't like recommending that because Windows really doesn't like that, and I can't remember which version of Windows you're using.

Chances are very, very good that it would boot right back up and everything would be fine, but it might force a disk check that would take a while if you have anything before Windows 10. I'm sure you've lost power before and your computer was on and it ended up being okay. Powering the machine down wouldn't be worse than a power outage.


But try my notes above first. It's just press CTRL , ALT and DEL all at the same time to get that menu, then either log out and log back in, or find the power button so you can get the menu to allow you to restart the computer the right way and it should all come back up fine.

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I still have my gay chef that my sister-in-law and brother bought me while they were out antiquing. I also have a cool wood piece that was beveled nicely on the ends and had all 3 of the gay chefs painted on it from them too. I know it's packed away in the attic in one of those boxes, so I'm bound to find it soon. I'm going to have to find a home in the kitchen for that too.

They really loved that kitchen. Not that they'd EVER think of doing that in their house, but they loved that somebody else had it.



Yanno what... I'm going to go back in time and see if I can find a shot before I pulled any of that Chef border down and repainted the walls. I'm sure I have a similar before shot of the kitchen to the one I just posted.

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Said in your other thread I am at library. I also talked to two computer places around here and they say do a restart but I am so nervous.

I have the zoom set around 100% but the icons have been looking bigger.

I've been looking at google and asking questions. Dumb I know. It says use windows key + D or control+ shift +esc.

I am very confused right now.

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I still have a sinus infection so a bit under the weather.

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Hi SIX. I bit the built and did a restart this morning. Really basic turned off the monitor and the drive then turned everything back on. Walked away and let it do its thing.

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As I said in the other thread. This is a refurbished drive and the monitor was as well until it died earlier this year. I am thinking I may have to call the person who got it for me and let him know it might be on its last legs.

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Also SIX, the Chrome updates that was in the upper right corner, because I wouldn't deal with it. Could that have caused a problem? I doubt but I am just asking.

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I could never say for sure, but I seriously doubt it. If Google was holding computers hostage like that for refusing to update, I know I would have heard about that story already.

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And I could have hit another key on Monday as I said both my hands were shaking.

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Occam's Razor here leads me to believe that this is probably the culprit. There are an awful lot of hidden "hotkey" combinations that can do a wide variety of things from copying and pasting text, to sticky shift keys, to blowing up the image on your screen 200%, and I'm sure at least 100 things I'm not even aware it's capable of doing.

I wouldn't let that bother you. 99% of the time that you do something like that on accident, as long as you know how to restart the computer it should fix the problem when it comes back up just like it did now.

Glad to see you're back, Brenda.



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Hi SIX. I bit the built and did a restart this morning. Really basic turned off the monitor and the drive then turned everything back on. Walked away and let it do its thing.

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Nice... Yeah. I just saw that and posted in the thread for you.

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As I said in the other thread. This is a refurbished drive and the monitor was as well until it died earlier this year. I am thinking I may have to call the person who got it for me and let him know it might be on its last legs.

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Nothing you've told me so far makes me think that the computer is dying, but you never know. Like I've been saying, you should have a backup laptop. It doesn't have to be expensive or even new. As long as it can run at least Windows 10 and get you on the internet even temporarily while things like this happen, it's so much better for you than worrying and trying to catch me or somebody else while at the library.

And if you had that laptop and your computer does die, you at least have a way to still get online while you're figuring out another desktop solution.

In the meantime, please answer these questions.

1. Do you still have your book backed up on at least one thumb drive?

2. Do you know all of your online passwords?

3. If you don't know them all, do you know how to backup your passwords? (You can also backup other settings in your browser, such as all of your bookmarks).

Any backups you make should also be copied to your thumbdrive with your book on it. That way, if your computer dies, you can use the same browser on your new computer (and also a backup laptop right now) and you can import all of those things and it will behave exactly as it did before your computer died.

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Also SIX, the Chrome updates that was in the upper right corner, because I wouldn't deal with it. Could that have caused a problem? I doubt but I am just asking.

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I could never say for sure, but I seriously doubt it. If Google was holding computers hostage like that for refusing to update, I know I would have heard about that story already.

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And I could have hit another key on Monday as I said both my hands were shaking.

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Occam's Razor here leads me to believe that this is probably the culprit. There are an awful lot of hidden "hotkey" combinations that can do a wide variety of things from copying and pasting text, to sticky shift keys, to blowing up the image on your screen 200%, and I'm sure at least 100 things I'm not even aware it's capable of doing.

I wouldn't let that bother you. 99% of the time that you do something like that on accident, as long as you know how to restart the computer it should fix the problem when it comes back up just like it did now.

Glad to see you're back, Brenda.



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Yes, it is good. I've been as careful as I can be today.

Yeah, it was just weird and you know I have a tendency to freak out. I do look every so often at laptops but that again leads to refurbished.

Yes, my book is still on a memory stick.

I don't and I can't remember my password. Everyone has told me I should have them written down.

I know nothing about backing up something like passwords. I sort of understand that you can transfer things like that to another computer.

Yeah, I didn't think it would. My mind is just looking for a reason.

I was already blaming my left hand more than my right. My left was bad on Monday.

Me to.

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Yes, it is good. I've been as careful as I can be today.

Yeah, it was just weird and you know I have a tendency to freak out. I do look every so often at laptops but that again leads to refurbished.

Yes, my book is still on a memory stick.

I don't and I can't remember my password. Everyone has told me I should have them written down.

I know nothing about backing up something like passwords. I sort of understand that you can transfer things like that to another computer.

Yeah, I didn't think it would. My mind is just looking for a reason.

I was already blaming my left hand more than my right. My left was bad on Monday.

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Before I say anything else, Brenda, we need to back up your browser passwords immediately. I think a LOT of people who used to post here over the years stopped posting because their computer died or they changed computers and forgot their password after most of the functionality of the website broke down.

If you don't have it, you can email haken at the address he's given according to Ted, and hopefully he could get you back into the site.

But this is one less thing you have to worry about if you get it done.

I'm going to give you some info on how to do it, but I need to know for sure what your browser is. You have Google Chrome, correct?

I don't have much experience at all with that browser, but I should be able to walk you through it.


If it's anything like Firefox, you should be able to open your own personal "Passwords" screen and see all the passwords Chrome saved at your direction. The usernames will be visible, but the passwords will likely be only dots or astericks until you hit the "eye" icon next to them to make them visible. If it's like Firefox, there would be a "Copy" button right next to it too, so you could copy it and then paste it into a word document or text document.

This is kind of complex stuff, but nothing that you should get into any trouble with. But I think it's important because if you don't back up at least your passwords, if your computer fails on you, you're locked out of everything.


If you'd like, you can let me know a good time to meet here tomorrow night and maybe we'll just go back into the thread I made for you and we could communicate much more quickly than if we were playing it by ear like usual. I won't be able to see your screen but hopefully I could walk you through this stuff fairly easily that way.

My only caveat is that me and one of my friends are supposed to get together soon, and he's been really busy so I might find out mid-afternoon that tonight is a good night for him. Otherwise, whenever you want to meet up to try to do this let me know.

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Yes, it is good. I've been as careful as I can be today.

Yeah, it was just weird and you know I have a tendency to freak out. I do look every so often at laptops but that again leads to refurbished.

Yes, my book is still on a memory stick.

I don't and I can't remember my password. Everyone has told me I should have them written down.

I know nothing about backing up something like passwords. I sort of understand that you can transfer things like that to another computer.

Yeah, I didn't think it would. My mind is just looking for a reason.

I was already blaming my left hand more than my right. My left was bad on Monday.

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Glad your book is still backed up. We're going to give it some company soon.

While that scare is still in your mind, I think we should get you backed up proper so you can feel much better knowing if your computer crashes you still have everything that is important to you.

In the meantime, if you could get yourself something affordable as far as laptops go, that would be a great way for me to teach you how to do some of this stuff too. We could get your browser on the laptop, then take the backed up settings and passwords that we will back up on your thumbstick, and import them into your browser on your laptop. Then you can log right into here on your laptop the same way you do your desktop.

Trust me. It's all pretty simple. You've got to let go of some of that fear. I was messing with these things back in the day when everything was a terror and I would regularly have to reinstall windows at least twice if not three or four times every year because the old versions didn't fix themselves when they got messed up like Windows 10 and 11 got really good at doing most of the time.

Once I had an 80GB hard drive outside of my case but still all plugged in because I was moving stuff to the new computer and I set the thing down chip-side on the bottom and something touched metal and that was it. Hard drive and all my photos and everything else, POOF! gone...

Just all this crazy stuff I used to have to do in order to do all the things I wanted to do on my computers back then that I don't ever need to think about anymore.



They make these things pretty damn hard to break on accident these days, Brenda. Look what happened... all you needed was a reboot and it was all good again. You've got to remember that they had to dumb all of this stuff down so the lowest common denominator can get online and see their advertisements. You're quite a bit smarter than a whole lot of them. So cut yourself some slack, huh?


We'll get you all set up.

Just try to find a laptop with at least Windows 10 on it. That way you should also almost certainly have wi-fi built in and you won't have to plug it into your router since you can connect wirelessly (I can teach you that too if you don't know how to do it). And you should probably try to get one with an HDMI out too, because that way if your computer died and you were shopping around for a new one, you could plug your laptop into your monitor and have two screens to work with, or you can just close the laptop and use your desktop monitor as the screen for the laptop.


All sorts of cool things you can do that are just a few lessons away.




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