WRITE FOX TV and COMPLAIN by Chindi

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WRITE FOX TV and COMPLAIN

POSTED BY: CHINDI
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:49
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Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:52 PM

I cannot believe that FOX TV can cancel a great show like Firefly and then let a lunatic like Bill O'Reilly on TV URGING AL-QEIDA to bomb San Francisco!

This is insanity! And Fox news should be made aware that this sort of inapproriate "reporting" should not be allowed. O'Reilly should be at least sanctioned and fined but at best FIRED!

in contempt....

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Friday, November 11, 2005 8:04 AM

ODDNESS2HER

When did he say that?

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Friday, November 11, 2005 9:04 AM

CHINDI

yesterday... can you believe it?

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Friday, November 11, 2005 9:06 AM

ODDNESS2HER

Was he serious, or just blustering? What was his reason?

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Friday, November 11, 2005 1:34 PM

CHINDI

good question.. is he ever serious? he sounded serious.

He was angry that SF voted to limit military recruiters on high school campuses. He said that SF should get no federal money and if they wanted to leave the Union they should do so... he then went on to say (sorry paraphrasing) that Al-Qaeda chould blow up Coit Tower cus no one would care...

I am all for freedom of speech.. but I am also for calling ppl on inappropriate speech as well.

We the people own the airwaves.. some of those "owners" live in the Bay area,,, he should be fired.

IMHO

Chindi

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Friday, November 11, 2005 1:36 PM

ODDNESS2HER

Geez, what a douche.

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 6:37 AM

INDIGO

Yea, that was a horribly vitriolic thing to say. O'Rielly spouted off because SF voted concern (key word "voted") over the practice of military recruiters trolling through schools. A CBS link to the story and video clip is at http://cbs5.com/topstories/local_story_315014627.html

"If you want to ban military recruiting, fine. But I’m not going to give you another nickel of federal money,” O'Reilly said. “If I'm the president of the United States, I walk right into Union Square, I set up my little presidential podium and I say, ‘Listen, citizens of San Francisco, if you vote against military recruiting, you're not going to get another nickel in federal funds.’”

That statement probably didn’t surprise those familiar with O’Reilly. But his rant didn’t end there.

“If Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we're not going to do anything about it,” he continued. “We're going to say, ‘look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead."

Those remarks haven’t gone unnoticed.

"Consider the source," said San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom. “There are a lot of people that love their country, and embrace the military, but that doesn't mean…that people of San Francisco can't stand up and say ‘hey, there may be some issues, and we want to send a policy statement that raises awareness.’”

O’Reilly has attacked Newsom in the past, but this time the Mayor says he has taken things too far.

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:13 AM

DREAMTROVE

Um, O'Reilly's argument is pretty weak, but it wasn't like when the president said "bring it on." I'd just let it slide.

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 10:24 AM

CAUSAL

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Originally posted by Indigo:
Yea, that was a horribly vitriolic thing to say. O'Rielly spouted off because SF voted concern (key word "voted") over the practice of military recruiters trolling through schools.

Whoa, hey now. I'm all for bashing O'Reilly over a stupid remark, but let's not bash military recruiters. My best friend is a Navy recruiter, and he's no troll. In fact, there are two very good reasons why you should appreciate military recruiters:

1) For some kids, the military is a great opportunity. Take me, for instance. Grew up in a lower-middle-class white family (just to prevent accusations that the military is racist). But mom and dad couldn't swing college tuition. There was no way I was getting scholarships, cause I pissed away my grades in high school. Didn't want to get a job at a factory or gas station, and I certainly didn't want to go to a vocational school. So when the military came a-knocking, I raised my right hand. I considered it a privilege to serve my country. I was honored to act in her defense. I was thrilled with the opportunity for travel. I excited about the prospect of the GI Bill. And best of all, I got some discipline instilled in me. I'm now a sophomore in college (which I'm paying for with the GI Bill) and I'm getting stright A's (thanks to the discipline I learned). The military is a mighty good option for a lot of people--I'm living proof that they don't just prey on poor minorities.

2) Recruiters enable the all-volunteer service. There's an easy way to eliminate recruiters: reinstitute the draft (though I don't necessarily advocate that). If service is compulsory, there's no need to recruit. But if you want an all-volunteer force, you're going to have to get out there and recruit--no two ways about it. So see recruiters as a blessing: they keep the military from being a compulsory service.

Rant concluded.

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Sunday, November 13, 2005 4:13 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Wasn't it SF that voted to not allow the USS Missouri to anchor there permantly and become a museum? Even Nancy Pelosi was critical of SF voters for that move, saying this wasn't the SF she use to know. If this city has gone so far Left that it's completely out of sync w/ the rest of the country on matters of security, then it runs a risk of being a target for al Qaeda. Ok, that may be a bit of a stretch, but I'm guessing that O'Reily was gunning (pun intended

) for that angle.

He was more warning SF than calling for them to be a target.

There's probably something to his point of view.

(Oh yeah, one is Fox TV, while the other is FOX News. Not the same thing. )

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:49 PM

INDIGO

Quote:
Originally posted by Causal:
Quote:
Originally posted by Indigo:
Yea, that was a horribly vitriolic thing to say. O'Rielly spouted off because SF voted concern (key word "voted") over the practice of military recruiters trolling through schools.

Whoa, hey now. I'm all for bashing O'Reilly over a stupid remark, but let's not bash military recruiters. My best friend is a Navy recruiter, and he's no troll.

Let me make myself perfectly clear -- in a moment of possibly useless self focus -- I am not bashing military recruiters, it's their job. I realized belatedly that my term "trolling" might be misconstrued -- I did not mean that recruiters were "trolls" (well, what they do on their off time, who knows :) ; I wanted to make a metaphor around the idea of fishermen laying their nets, hence trolling.

My grandfather was a top recruiter for the US Navy during WWII; he was also one of the "poster glory boys" whose image was used in recruiting efforts. I am very proud of him, as I am of my other military service family members -- including other grandfather, father, brother, husband, sister-in-law, and yes, myself. This includes service in in both gulf wars and Iraq; and yes, we too ran out of money for college and joined. I get 'ya and I'm very happy that you came out of your service in a good place and are doing well. The big shiny promises did not pan our for some of us.

What I am concerned about is a growing recruiting tactic that has recruitment efforts being conducted on high school grounds, to minors (in most cases), and not during regular "career day" expo's. This policy also puts the school administration, parents, and students in the difficult position of having to sign deferrments if they do not want their student/s placed on a national recruiting call list. This is a predatory practice. I have a young son and several nieces that I really don't want inappropriate pressures laid upon them when and where they are supposed to be in a "safe" zone, a place of learning.

For the most part, my true and nearly complete reason for posting originally on this thread was to chime in on the creepy, un-patriotic, treasonous comment by the fool-hack Mr. O'Reilly. He said an ugly, ugly thing, and there's no way around it. I don't take him seriously, but I'm among those who think that it was innappropriate and indicative of some seriously scary rhetoric going around lately (compairing this to Pat Robertson's declaration that God will ignore the prayers of anyone in Dover, Penn. -- even during a disaster -- because the school board voted out proponents of ID in the science curriculum -- please!). Anyway, I just don't think that our country needs anymore of this back-biting kind of commentary coming out against our own citizens for engaging in the democratic process.

Thank you Casual for engaging me in this conversation. Rant ? concluded!

Beware of Geeks bearing gifs.
Blessed are the Geeks for they shall internet the world.

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