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Americans in general are the hardest working people in the entire world when compared with other nations. That is a fact.

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There's a lot of hard-workin' peeps in the world...Chrisisall

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if you want to talk about hypocrites you might want to start with the Mexican government

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Point taken.
All the more reason peeps would want to leave, though.

No answers Chrisisall

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I think everyone can understand their reasons for wanting to come, point is we can't afford to take them.

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Originally posted by Phaedra:
The people who marched are our neighbors, coworkers, friends and fellow Americans. They deserve respect.

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Americans in general are the hardest working people in the entire world when compared with other nations. That is a fact.

Do you have stats or links to support your highly dubious 'fact'?



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Frustrated that people keep ignoring the word 'illegal' Khyronisall

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I don't know what state you're from, but in WI in-state tuition isn't cheap. In fact, on the basis of money alone, it would almost be cheaper for me to pay out of state tuition at a number of other schools. Lucky for me, my school is a damn good one. Furthermore, as far as I know, one needs to be a citizen/have a green card and a state drivers license to establish residency and get federal aid, so I highly doubt most undocumented workers can afford higher education. At least for awhile.

Also, referencing a previous post of yours, abortion is not genocide.

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1) For me, legal and illegal have little meaning in a country so ready to assign one or the other arbitrarily, or to suit the purpose at hand. There is only what a man can do, and what a man can't do, most CEO's know and operate by this.

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I don't know what state you're from, but in WI in-state tuition isn't cheap. In fact, on the basis of money alone, it would almost be cheaper for me to pay out of state tuition at a number of other schools. Lucky for me, my school is a damn good one. Furthermore, as far as I know, one needs to be a citizen/have a green card and a state drivers license to establish residency and get federal aid, so I highly doubt most undocumented workers can afford higher education. At least for awhile.

Also, referencing a previous post of yours, abortion is not genocide.

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No, it wasn't directed at you. It was to PirateNews. Apparently I clicked on the wrong message reply link in my slightly comatose state early this morning. Sorry about that.

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It's that tragic Space Dementia making you all paranoid and crotchety. Breaks the heart!

"Wish I had some of whatever this Piratenews guy is smoking"

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Article 2
1. Nothing in this Declaration shall be interpreted as legitimizing the illegal entry into and presence in a State of any alien, nor shall any provision be interpreted as restricting the right of any State to promulgate laws and regulations concerning the entry of aliens and the terms and conditions of their stay or to establish differences between nationals and aliens.

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The people marching are marching because they see something happening that is very wrong. They are trying to stop as much of the injustice as they can. Whether they are citizens or not, whether they have "birth-rights" or "guest-rights"

“to what extent should the Constitution protect noncitizens—immigrants, undocumented persons, tourists, foreign students—in the United States”

According to Merriam Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, “a citizen is a member of a state to whom he or she owes allegiance and is entitled to its protection.” Hence, from this definition, it is implicit that a non-citizen is someone who is not a member of a state nor owes allegiance to the state he or she currently resides.

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'Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!'

As far as the struggles people go through to get to out "beloved" country, I have seen first hand, those who make it easily, who have a life threatening trip, and those who die trying.

These have been Cuban, Haitian, Dominican, Mexican, Central/South American...

I have escorted "boats" (a loose term for some of the vessels), to a safe mooring. I have pulled people from the water, who lived. I have pulled people from the water who died for the chance to be free.

I have been part of a crew who pulled families from dingys, rafts, and floating planks. Where we had to give them medical care, carefully feed them (soft, bland foods) because all of their food was washed overboard. I have seen babies who have not had milk for 2 days. We cleared out lounge area, and one of our "heads" (showers/sinks/toilets) so they could shed there clothing and clean themselves up, and then taken some of our clothing from our lockers so they could have something clean to wear.

I have seen crewmen and INS personnel jump into the water to save people because when they saw the USCG Cutter, they all went to one side of the vessel (tipping it over), they would change into their "United States clothes", still knee deep in seawater and human waste.

The laws have changed over the years, but they still keep coming. All they want to do is to work, have a better life, send some money home to help. The ones depicted in "Scarface" are so very few and far between.

I speak Florida Spanish (a bastardization of Cuban and Puerto Rican), Haitian Creole, and English. I grew up in South Florida, Pre-Castro until just a few years ago. The memories, good and bad, heartwarming and sad, will always be with me.

People are people, no matter where they come from, some of the people in South Florida, who never got the paperwork, were better citizens than those who were citizens by birth right.

If they live and work within our borders, they are ours. Just as we expect them to live within our laws, we have the responsibility to provide them with the same rights, privilieges, and services as anyone else. The only thing "formal" citizenship should give them is the right to vote. Everything else, in both directions, is part of a responsible society.

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It's not a great comparison, but it sort of gets the point across.

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All that means is that there are a heckuva lot of illegals here attempting to apply political pressure thru non-voting means ... not entirely reassuring.

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You're in a lifeboat. The ship went down days ago. You find out that two on board, a man and his son (who take regular turns rowing and whom many have come to like), circumvented the lottery process and 'snuck' their way onto the lifeboat.

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U.S.-Born Latinos Oppose Illegal Immigration

AP | April 11 2006

PHOENIX -- Contrary to scenes of hundreds of thousands of united Latinos marching across the country in support of immigration reform, a sizable number of the ethnic group opposes the marches and strongly objects to illegal immigration.

Their voices have largely been muffled by the massive protests, however, which continued Monday as thousands of demonstrators took to the streets of cities nationwide.

Those protesting are voicing their support of a Senate bill that would give an estimated 11 million illegal immigrants living in the country a chance for U.S. citizenship.

"That's the objective of the marches — to give the impression that all Latinos are for allowing the illegals to become citizens," said Phoenix resident Lionel De La Rosa. "Well, I'm not."

The 71-year-old Texas native and Vietnam veteran said he favors punitive measures more in line with the immigration bill passed by the U.S. House in December that would have made it a felony to be in the United States illegally.
"I'm for that 100 percent," he said. "As far as my Latino friends are concerned, they all agree on this."

A 2005 survey by the Pew Hispanic Center found that Latinos in general have favorable attitudes toward immigrants and immigration. But when it comes to illegal immigration, significant numbers have negative views of undocumented immigrants.

The survey found those feelings are strongest among middle-class and middle-age U.S.-born Latinos.

And though 68 percent of Latinos said they believe undocumented immigrants help the economy by providing low-cost labor, nearly a quarter felt undocumented immigrants hurt the economy by driving down wages.

U.S.-born Latinos looked even less favorably toward undocumented immigrants than foreign-born Latinos. More than a third of U.S.-born Latinos said undocumented immigrants hurt the economy, compared with just 15 percent of foreign-born Latinos.

Latinos also are divided over whether to allow undocumented immigrants to earn citizenship, the survey found.

Though 88 percent of foreign-born Latinos favored allowing undocumented immigrants to earn citizenship, a smaller number of U.S.-born Latinos, 78 percent, said undocumented immigrants should be allowed to do so.

Though views such as De La Rosa's are common among Latinos, they are rarely reflected among Latino leaders, said Steven Camarota, research director at the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington, D.C. think tank that favors greater restrictions on immigration.

"It's easy to tap into the views of the intellectual class, but harder to tap0into the views of the common folks," he said.

And because so much of the debate over illegal immigration comes off as anti-Hispanic, Latinos who favor greater restrictions on immigration are often reluctant to speak out.

"That's extremely off-putting," Camarota said. "Whatever their views, they keep it to themselves."

Many Latinos fear being ostracized for their negative views of undocumented immigrants, said Phoenix resident Frank Barrios, 64.

"There are a lot of Hispanics that are upset about the undocumented just the same way as the Anglo population," said Barrios, a third-generation Mexican-American who traces his family's roots in Arizona to the 1870s. "That group is larger than many people would believe."

www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/4/10/144315.shtml?s=lh

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I think perhaps this situation needs to explode. A huge riot in Washington or a massacre along the border. The leadership of both parties are in a coma when it comes to this issue and if millions marching peacefully for rights they don't have can't wake people up, then senseless violance might do the job.

I'm not advocating violence by either side, in fact I hope that it can be avoided and I'm greatly impressed by the demonstrations and behaivor of everyone from the Minutemen's peaceful border watch to the pro-immigration rallys across the country. It might just be my frustration at whats not happening or maybe because I've studied history and it seems a violent act might be necessary to create the political will to enact a solution.

My solution, close the border with the military (at least long enough to train and equip the new border patrol and build a nice big fence), guest worker status for everyone here (you can't deport 12 million people), felony offense to employ illegals, immediate deportation for anyone who doesn't register, and the removal of Hillary Clinton office (oddly that also my solution to global warming, the economy, the high gas prices, the sequal to Serenity, what I'm fixing for dinner tonight, and just about any other problem I can think of).

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Not exactly the right comparison. You work on cruise ship. Some of you are cooks, some waiters, some cleaners, and a couple of you are executives who own the cruise line. Some of you were allowed on the boat illegally and have been put to work for next to nothing because it costs the cruise line much less to hire them. So, while YOU are getting $10 an hour, the guy next to you is making $6. So, do you toss out the executives or the guy who's making $6? Or both?

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FORGET ABOUT CIVIL WAR IN IRAQ, ONE IS COMING TO AMERICA

By Pastor Chuck Baldwin
NewsWithViews.com
April 11, 2006

While American troops are hunkered down in "safe zones" in Iraq trying to stay out of an escalating civil war, our government seems oblivious to a growing threat of civil war right here in the United States. As anyone can see, millions of illegal aliens living here are becoming more vocal, more demonstrative, more belligerent, and more violence-prone by the day. Unless our government takes deliberate and significant action immediately, America could be in for serious civil unrest real soon.

It is absolutely incredible that our government would tolerate people who are not even legal residents of our country to generate the kind of mass demonstrations and protests that we are witnessing on a daily basis! It is more than incredible; it is outrageous!

According to The Christian Science Monitor (April 10, 2006), immigrants (most of them illegal) are "mobilizing for major 'action.'" Nearly 100 American cities will soon feel the brunt of this "action."

Organizers describe these coming demonstrations as "the biggest social movement of Hispanics since the United Farm Workers of Cesar Chavez." In addition, organizers predict that thousands of Muslims will also join millions of illegal Hispanics on what can only be regarded as an anti-America crusade.

The American people need to understand that the United States is under attack! No, not by Iraq or Iran, but by Mexico! Yes, Martha, you had better believe it. The Mexican government is deliberately and systematically working to destabilize and undermine the very fabric and framework of American society. And President George W. Bush and Senators John McCain and Ted Kennedy (among others) are aiding and abetting this effort.

Right now, much of Latin America is embroiled in a serious takeover by Leftist-Marxists. In all likelihood, Mexico's next leader will be an open Leftist. Vicente Fox has helped create an increased appetite for socialism (not that Mexico ever had a true understanding of freedom and republicanism), and the next Mexican leader is certain to finish the job.

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Today a unique and alternative education system is rapidly emerging in the misty mountains and steamy jungles of the Mexican southeast. Indian children in hundreds of Maya communities throughout the state of Chiapas are attending new “Zapatista” schools.

Schools for Chiapas / Escuelas para Chiapas
1631 Dale Street
San Diego, CA 92102 USA
(619) 232-2841
schoolsforchiapas@schoolsforchiapas.org
www.schoolsforchiapas.org

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However, Fox has done more than turn his own country leftward. He has superintended over the biggest invasion of the United States in our country's history. That's right, invasion! A close, personal friendship with President George W. Bush has given Fox the opportunity to purposely allow (or even send) millions of criminals, thugs, anarchists, and potential terrorists to swarm over our southern border in breathtaking numbers. (As I have chronicled before in this column, nearly half of all illegal aliens currently living in the U.S. came here since Bush became president in 2000.)

Yet, while Mexican President Fox encourages and even promotes massive illegal immigration to the U.S., his own country's constitution in Chapter 3, Article 33, states, "The Executive of the Union has the exclusive right to expel from the national territory, immediately and without necessity of judicial proceedings, all foreigners whose stay it judges inconvenient. Foreigners may not, in any manner, involve themselves in the political affairs of the country." Imagine that.

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and wave Mexican flags in USA

US FLAGS BANNED IN USA

Dozens of high school students protested a temporary school policy forbidding students from displaying the U.S. flag as well as flags from other countries amid racial tensions following immigration rallies.

"When it involves the American flag and its abuse in vilifying other people, we simply will not tolerate it," Stumpf said. "They were using the symbol derisively as misguided patriotism."

Students were warned about the policy Friday and several were suspended, although Stumpf would not provide details. Then, about 100 students protested during lunch time.

Student Dustin Carlson told Denver station KCNC-TV that he was suspended for two days.

"I'm getting suspended for it and personally I think that's uncalled for," he said. "If this country means freedom, then why can't we fly our own flag? It's ridiculous."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1793734

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Even without the massive demonstrations by millions of foreign invaders, America is reeling from the negative effects that these people have created. In an open letter to President Bush, Ron Maxwell (writer and director of "Gettysburg" and "Gods and Generals") wrote, "Where was the concern for American schoolchildren forced to sit in overcrowded classes, for American patients forced to wait in overcrowded hospitals, for American workers whose wages are being undercut, for American drivers forced to sit in interminable traffic jams in over-whelmed freeway systems, for the victims of organized gangs, for the American college students who are turned away from publicly funded state universities, for many African Americans who are being literally displaced from their neighborhoods while being moved figuratively, once again, to the back of the bus, for those environmentalists and conservationists who want to protect open space and slow down urban sprawl, for the American taxpayers who have had to bear the burden of billions of dollars in increased welfare costs, over-burdened prisons, extra police and security and even, adding insult to injury, for bilingual education?" (Source: The Washington Times, April 6, 2006)

I trust Mr. Maxwell is not holding his breath while he waits for President Bush to respond, because Bush knows the problems his laxity and indifference have created and frankly, my dear, doesn't give a darn!

If anything is going to be done about the illegal alien problem it will be because the American people, conservatives, liberals, moderates, independents, whites, blacks, Hispanics, Jews and Gentiles, young and old, from blue states and red states, from big cities and small farms, Christians and unbelievers stand up and in no uncertain terms demand that the Congress of the United States put a stop to it NOW!

This means making it a crime for any employer to knowingly hire an illegal alien punishable with serious fines and imprisonment for repeat offenses. It means demanding that our federal government seal our borders (especially the southern one) and stop the tide of foreign invasion immediately. If Saudi Arabia can put up a security fence between itself and Iraq (and it is doing just that), we can put one up between us and Mexico! It means to stop underwriting these foreign invaders by not paying for their health care, schooling, and food stamps. It means to stop giving them drivers licenses. It means making certain punishment worse than any potential benefit.

We can either deal with the illegal immigration problem now as described above or we will certainly deal with open civil war in the very near future. The American people better decide right now which it will be, because time is running out for Congress to be able to fix the problem. Once that happens, we won't have to worry about civil war in Iraq, it will happen right here in the United States.

www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin293.htm

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www.aztlanunderground.com

COVER OF HOT NEW ALBUM: MEXICANS SHOWN SPEARING AMERICAN "PIGS"

Lyrics
506 years of indigenous resistance
The prophecies are coming true
The redemption of the red people has come!
The 6th sun now arises
The 7th fire has arrived
Cihuatl is reclaiming
We have returned to Aztlan
We have returned to Aztlan!!!!

WE DIDN'T CROSS THE BORDERS, THE BORDERS CROSSED US YET THE SETTLER NATION LIVES IN DISGUST!!

GET THE FUCK OUT, GET THE FUCK OUT, GET THE FUCK, FUCK, FUCK OUT GET THE FUCK OUT

WASICHU [White Man] EATER OF THE FAT WASTER OF EARTH MOTHER AND PEOPLE COLONIZER OF AZTLAN AND THE WORLD GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!

www.americanpatrol.com/FEATURES/010421AZTLANRAP/FeatureAztlanRap010421
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Slash / McKagan / Rose
Special Thanks Niven / James

"What we've got here is failure to communicate." (KKK preacher from Porky's Revenge?)

Some men you just can't reach...
So, you get what we had here last week,
which is the way he wants it!
Well, he gets it!
N' I don't like it any more than you men.

Look at your young men fighting
Look at your women crying
Look at your young men dying
The way they've always done before

Look at the hate we're breeding
Look at the fear we're feeding
Look at the lives we're leading
The way we've always done before

My hands are tied
The billions shift from side to side
And the wars go on with brainwashed pride
For the love of God and our human rights
And all these things are swept aside
By bloody hands time can't deny
And are washed away by your genocide
And history hides the lies of our civil wars

D'you wear a black armband
When they shot the man
Who said "Peace could last forever"
And in my first memories
They shot Kennedy
I went numb when I learned to see
So I never fell for Vietnam
We got the wall of D.C. to remind us all
That you can't trust freedom
When it's not in your hands
When everybody's fightin'
For their promised land

And
I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war

Look at the shoes your filling
Look at the blood we're spilling
Look at the world we're killing
The way we've always done before
Look in the doubt we've wallowed
Look at the leaders we've followed
Look at the lies we've swallowed
And I don't want to hear no more

My hands are tied
For all I've seen has changed my mind
But still the wars go on as the years go by
With no love of God or human rights
'Cause all these dreams are swept aside
By bloody hands of the hypnotized
Who carry the cross of homicide
And history bears the scars of our civil wars

We practice selective annihilation of mayors
And government officials
For example to create a vacuum
Then we fill that vacuum
As popular war advances
Peace is closer

I don't need your civil war
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
And I don't need your civil war
No No No No No No No No
I don't need your civil war
I don't need your civil war
Your power hungry sellin' soldiers
In a human grocery store
Ain't that fresh
I don't need your civil war
I don't need one more war
I don't need one more war
Whaz so civil 'bout war anyway

www.weboshawa.com/gnr_lyrics.htm

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Listen you alarmist.

They start a civil war here and they will all die; all of them.

It’s our fault that this problem is a problem. In many ways a lot of companies love having the illegal around just so they can pay them peanuts. We sat on our asses for decades allowing this problem to get larger and larger, and now we want to throw them out? Stupid. Its time for this country to take some responsibilities for its actions. Make those people who are already here legal citizens, toss out the criminal elements, and actually put some real money into patrolling our borders. We should have done that after 9/11, but we didn’t so we get what we deserve. This whole thing reeks of complete politics and I hate it.

I’ve been reading some of the opinions on the internet by people who don’t think. One idiot says that we should round them all up at gun point, and march them all to the border...all 12 million of them. Yeah, that would look really good on CNN, and the whole world would really get to see our true colors. Mass relocation to solve a problem that we let get out of hand…give me a break. And Piratenews…you are such a stupid fuck.

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It only took the NWO 15 years to totally destroy Iraq, for the next 45-BILLION years, soon to be broken into 3 nations - with all the oil given to Israel (Russian Jewish mafiya), via it's pipeline now stolen from Syria. If we have another Civil War in USA, between US and Aztlan, all that DU ammo is going to render USA uninhabitable for 45-billion years...

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Wow, not only have you never opened a history book, you've never even seen a science/chemistry book. DU does become radioactive when it vaporizes (tips of some armor piercing rounds vaporize on impact to melt armor), but the rate of radioactive decay is nowhere close to 45 billion years.

Plus, Iraq is obviously not unliveably radioactive, seeing as how there are tens of millions of people living there without dying of radiation poisoning. 45 billion years, HA!

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as seen on cover of LIFE magazine:
www.noduweapons.org

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www.voicesuk.org


100s of photos of DU babies in Iraq:
www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/extremedeformities.html

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www.notinourname.net/war/du.html

US Govt manuals written by Major Rokke:

April 29, 2004 Memorandum for Commanders, MEDCOM major subordinate
Commands on "Medical Management of Army Personnel Exposed to Depleted
Uranium (DU)
www.traprockpeace.org/du_medmgmt_otsg.pdf

Army Regulation 700-48 – Logistics – Management of Equipment
Contaminated with Depleted Uranium or Radioactive Commodities; and
Department of the Army, Pamphlet 700-48 - Handling Procedures for
Equipment Contaminated with Depleted Uranium or Radioactive
Commodities
www.traprockpeace.org/r700_48.pdf
www.traprockpeace.org/p700_48.pdf

U.S. Army Technical \ Bulletin- TB 9-1300-278: "Guidelines For Safe
Response To Handling, Storage, And Transportation Accidents Involving
Army Tank Munitions Or Armor Which Contain Depleted Uranium"
(Headquarters, Department Of The Army, Washington, D.C., JULY 1996).
www.traprockpeace.org/tb_9-1300-278_1996.pdf

(these safety manuals are TOP SECRET to active duty soldiers)

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INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF THE EAST TENNESSEE TECHNOLOGY PARK

Office of Environment, Safety and Health, U.S. Department of Energy (2000)

Pollution above toxic levels surrounding Oak Ridge Nuclear Laboratory (ETTP)

HTML Report (200 pages - reclassified Top Secret)
http://tis.eh.doe.gov/oversight/reports/gdps/0010ettp/index.html

PDF Report (200 pages - reclassified Top Secret)
http://tis.eh.doe.gov/oversight/reports/gdps/0010ettp/0010ettp.html

Verbatum from the declassified portion of the Report:

"Conservative estimates indicated that 35,000 pounds of uranium were released into the air from all sources. 4,300 pounds of uranium a month was unaccounted for or released to the environment. ETTP operates an incinerator which handles radioactive, hazardous and uranium-contaminated PCB wastes. ETTP generated transuranic elements (isotopes with atomic numbers greater than uranium) such as neptunium-237 and plutonium-239; fission products such as techneitum-99; PCBs; toxic metals; and volatile organic compunds such as trichloroethene (TCE) and present risk to the public. Some contaminants migrated outside the Plant boundary. Waste disposal practices included direct discharge of radioactive materials, toxics and caustics to holding ponds and storm drains, and incineration and burial. Reports reflected a number of spills of nitric and hydrochloric acids, in one case 200 gallons. Numerous large fires and explosions were reported. It is impossible to characterize exposure because of inadequate surveys and incomplete records. Records indicate that as contamination levels increased, exposure controls were reduced. Contamination above limits was commonly detected. Operations have released a variety of contaminants into the environment, such as burial of low-level and hazardous waste in landfills and dumping directly into the Clinch River. Large amounts of contaminated equipment and scrap material were sold at public auction. Tens of thousands of pounds of flourine and hydrogen flouride were emitted annually. The investigation team identified over 600 releases of uranium hexaflouride, and a large, visible cloud was released outside a building. Exposure to 'intense clouds' of uranium powder dusts was prevalent and resulted in intense beta radiation fields. Each month dozens or workers were identified as having exposures exceeding plant control guides. Extensive contamination was prevalent. Recordsindicate many air samples in excess of Plant Allowable Limits. Both chemical and radiological materials have routinely been discharged from the Plant, from both sanitary sewage and storm water systems and materials were directly discharged in Mitchell Branch and Poplar Creek. One million pounds of blowdown water was discharged a day. The hexavalent chromium concentration in Poplar Creek is equal to the level regulated by the site's permit. Contents of 500 uranium hexafloride and other gas cylinders were emptied into the unlined holding pond by shooting the cylinders with high-powered rifles, and this pond discharged into Poplar Creek. Records confirm that radiation exceeded drinking water standards. Over 80,000 drums of pond sludge with low concentrations of uranium were generated in 1988. Ventilation was modified to discharge mercury fumes above the roof. Elevated levels of mercury were found in urinalyses. Records refer to the recovery of tons of mercury. Traps would blow out spilling mercury on the floor. Air sampling in the 1990s identified mercury levels several times the Threshold Limit Value. Continual and volumnous process leaks (blowoffs) were vented to the atmosphere. 4,300 pounds of uranium hexaflouride were released per month. Losses were excessive. 10,000 union grievances were filed and management disputed grievances concerning safety in favor of economic considerations. Many storm drains were not moitored before 1992, and routine and accidental wastes have adversely impacted the environment and the aquatic habitat. Weaknesses in the sampling and monitoring of air pollutant emissions raise concerns regarding the accuracy of public dose and exposure calculations. Environmental radiological protection and surveillance are not compliant with DOE Order. Few records reflect involvement by the Atomic Energy Commission in investigations of serious events. Levels of airborne radioactivity were as high as 35,800 dpm/ft3, and far exceeded the PAL of 2 dpm/ft3. [That's radiation levels over 17,000 times the maximum limit.] Airborne radioactivity far in excess of normal background levels was measured off-site as far as five miles away. A number of criticality and sub-criticality accident experiments were performed and posed a severe radiation hazard. Bladder cancer rates were seven times higher than for the general population, and stomach ulcers were 6.5 times greater. Inhalation of airborn radiation can increase the risk of future cancer." (verbatum from the Report)

NOTE: This report only covered the K-25 plant, not the DOE National Nuclear Security Administration's Y-12 nuclear bombs factory, not the thousands of contaminated lab rats from ORNL's Y-12 nuclear bombs factory Mouse House that are incinerated at the University of Tennessee Medical Center in downtown Knoxville, and did not cover Top Secret "criticality" pollution, "referred to as 'special hazards'" (ie, "small" explosions due to accidental nuclear reactions), and "are discussed in a separate classifed document." The GOPS government of Tennessee previously gave ETTP/ORNL a clean bill of health in 1999.

RALPH NADER ON NUKES: "High-level nuclear waste will be hazardous for more than 200,000 years. An Energy Department study found that a severe accident in a rural area could contaminate a 42-square-mile area, require over a year to 'clean up', and cost $620 million."

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Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments (ACHRE)
http://gwis.circ.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/radiation/

ACHRE was created by President Clinton on January 15, 1994 to investigate and report on the use of human beings as subjects of federally funded research using ionizing radiation.

11. Intentional Releases: Lifting the Veil of Secrecy
http://tis.eh.doe.gov/ohre/roadmap/achre/chap11.html

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Originally posted by piratenews:
"Depleted" URANIUM is RADIOACTIVE at all times. It decays immediately into GAMMA RAYS, X-RAYS, BETA PARTICLES, AND DEADLY ALPHA PARTICLES. It IGNITES at over 3,000-degrees F the instant it leaves the barrel of a gun, like a magnesium flare. When it hits a target it explodes into radiactive dust. Once you breathe or eat alpha radiation, it's like getting a medical x-ray every minute of your short life. DU is a radioactive heavy metal that binds to DNA. DU half life is 4.5-BILLION years, but it requires 10 half lives to reduce radiation to safe levels. DU is suicide for any soldier that touches it, even before it's fired from a gun. Even M-16 ammo is now radioactive DU.
www.traprockpeace.org/depleted_uranium.html

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