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British Govt bans arrest for most criminals, Robocops arrest all drivers
Thursday, April 6, 2006 6:05 PM
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Quote:Incredible - UK Cops Told To Let Burglars Go Free The Daily Mail - UK 4-6-6 Burglars will be allowed to escape without punishment under new instructions sent to all police forces. Police have been told they can let them off the threat of a court appearance and instead allow them to go with a caution. The same leniency will be shown to criminals responsible for more than 60 other different offences, ranging from arson through vandalism to sex with underage girls. New rules sent to police chiefs by the Home Office set out how seriously various crimes should be regarded, and when offenders who admit to them should be sent home with a caution. A caution counts as a criminal record but means the offender does not face a court appearance which would be likely to end in a fine, a community punishment or jail. Some serious offences - including burglary of a shop or office, threatening to kill, actual bodily harm, and possession of Class A drugs such as heroin or cocaine - may now be dealt with by caution if police decide that would be the best approach. And a string of crimes including common assault, threatening behaviour, sex with an underage girl or boy, and taking a car without its owner's consent, should normally be dealt with by a caution, the circular said. The Home Office instruction applies to offenders who have admitted their guilt but who have no criminal record. They are also likely to be able to show mitigating factors to lessen the seriousness of their crime. The instruction to abandon court prosecutions in more cases - even for people who admit to having carried out serious crimes - comes in the wake of repeated attempts by ministers and senior judges to persuade the courts to send fewer criminals to jail. The crisis of overcrowding in UK prisons has also prompted moves to let many more convicts out earlier. It emerged last month that some violent or sex offenders, given mandatory life sentences under a "two-strike" rule, have been freed after as little as 15 months. The latest move provoked condemnation yesterday from Tories and critics of the justice system. Shadow Home Secretary David Davis said: "Yet again the Government is covertly undermining the penal system and throwing away the trust of ordinary citizens that criminals will be punished and punished properly. "In the last few weeks we have witnessed a serial failure of Labour to protect the citizen, with murders of innocent people by criminals variously on early release or probation, and now we're finding that ever more serious crimes are not being brought to court at all." Criminologist Dr David Green, of the Civitas think-tank, said: "They appear to have given up making the court system work and doing anything about delays and the deviousness of defence lawyers. "This is part of the wider problem that the Home Office has an anti-prison bias. But while they regard prison as uncivilised, they don't seem to care whether the alternatives work or not." The Home Office circular to police forces has been sent amid a Government drive to reduce the number of cases coming before the courts. A number of crimes - notably shoplifting - are now regularly dealt with by fixed penalty notices similar to a parking fine. A whole range of offenders who admit traffic and more minor criminal offences will in future have their cases "processed" by new Government bureaucracies rather than by the courts. At the same time judges and magistrates have been bombarded with instructions from the senior judiciary to send fewer criminals to jail. Burglars and muggers should be spared prison more often, courts have been told, and last week sentencing authorities ordered a further "raising of the custody threshold" to keep out of prison more offenders who would in the past have been given up to a year in jail. The new instructions to police on how to keep criminals out of the courts altogether are given in a 'Gravity Factor Matrix'. This breaks down offences into four categories, with the most serious rated as four and the least serious as one. For criminals over 18, who admit offences ranked at the third level of seriousness, the instruction is: "Normally charge but a simple caution may be appropriate if first offence". Officers dealing with those who admit level two crimes are told: "Normally simple caution for a first offence but a charge may be appropriate if (there are) previous convictions or appropriate to circumstances." The Home Office said the guidance had been circulated nationally because there had been regional anomalies in the way offenders were dealt with and these needed to be removed. A spokesman said: 'Cautioning in individual cases is an operational matter for the police and Crown Prosecution Service. "'The new circular firstly provides up to date guidance on the use of cautions to encourage consistency across the country. "Secondly, with the introduction of statutory charging, the guidance needed to clarify what the effect would be on police responsibility for cautions. Finally the guidance was introduced to outline the practical process of administering a caution." Cautioning was used heavily in the late 1980s and early 1990s, particularly for juvenile offenders under 18. Tory Home Secretary Michael Howard cracked down on cautions in 1994 because young thugs and thieves were getting repeated cautions but no punishment. But cautioning for adult offenders is now on the rise. Dr Green said: "The Home Office is missing its target to achieve a set number of offenders brought to justice. But it seems they regard a caution as an offender brought to justice. "This is a nod and a wink to police forces - deal with your cases by cautions and we will hit our target." www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html? in_article_id=381799&in_page_id=1770
Quote:Gatso 2: rollout of UK's '24x7 vehicle movement database' begins By John Lettice 15th November 2005 A "24x7 national vehicle movement database" that logs everything on the UK's roads and retains the data for at least two years is now being built, according to an Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) strategy document leaked to the Sunday Times. The system, which will use Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR), and will be overseen from a control centre in Hendon, London, is a sort of 'Gatso 2' network, extending. enhancing and linking existing CCTV, ANPR and speedcam systems and databases. Which possibly explains why the sorcerer's apprentices in ACPO's tech section don't seem to have needed any kind of Parliamentary approval to begin the deployment of what promises to be one the most pervasive surveillance systems on earth. The control centre is intended to go live in April of next year, and is intended to be processing 50 million number plates a day by year end. ACPO national ANPR co-ordinator John Dean told the Sunday Times that fixed ANPR cameras already exist "at strategic points" on every motorway in the UK, and that the intention was to have "good nationwide coverage within the next 12 months." According to ACPO roads policing head Meredydd Hughes, ANPR systems are planned every 400 yards along motorways, and a trial on the M42 near Birmingham will first be used to enforce variable speed limits, then to 'tackle more serious crime.' The primary aims claimed for the system are tackling untaxed and uninsured vehicles, stolen cars and the considerably broader one of 'denying criminals the use of the roads.' But unless the Times has got the spacing wrong, having one every quarter of a mile on motorways quite clearly means they'll be used to enforce speed limits as well, which would effectively make the current generation of Gatsos obsolete. Otherwise, checking a vehicle's tax and insurance status every 15 seconds or thereabouts would seem overkill. Civil liberties trainspotters will share The Register's pleasure at discovering that the Disclosure of Vehicle Insurance Regulations 2005 "were made under powers provided for in the Serious Organised Crime and Police Act 2005." www.theregister.co.uk/2005/11/15/vehicle_movement_database
Quote:"It is extremely easy to beat this type of ticket in court. Your easiest defense is to simply throw the ticket away. If it does not come with a return receipt that requires a signature, there is no proof that you actually got the ticket and they cannot prosecute you on that. What the legal system wants you to do is just send in the fine and not ask any questions. This can be a big money maker for some communities. One other form of defense to utilize on your behalf is the fact that when you are accused in court you must be faced by your accuser. Obviously the computer cannot appear in court as a defense method for the prosecution. Also, you do not have to identify yourself as the driver of the vehicle because it would violate your sixth amendment rights against self incrimination." -Norman G. Fernandez, attorney at law, and Jes Beard, attorney at law in Chattanooga, Tennessee, JesBeard.com, "How to Beat a Speeding Ticket - Photo RADAR" www.jesbeard.com/s11.htm http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/11/7566.php www.americanautobahn.com
Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:13 AM
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FLETCH2
Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:02 PM
REAVERMAN
Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:29 PM
OLDENGLANDDRY
Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:43 PM
CITIZEN
Tuesday, April 11, 2006 5:06 PM
SASSALICIOUS
Quote:Originally posted by reaverman: PN- My God, it's amazing that your head doesn't explode and spew bullshit everywhere! Taking that article seriously is like taking the National Enquirer seriously when they publish some story about Bigfoot doing battle with a T-Rex in someone's back yard! I've asked it before and I'll ask it again: Evidence? Any at all? You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.
Tuesday, April 11, 2006 7:45 PM
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Quote:British Govt banned self defense of any kind with any weapon, since it already banned firearms, as done in Australia and underway in Canada, which are also part of the British Commonwealth and British Empire under the dictator Queen of England (now merged with USA under the NAFTA hostile takeover).
Tuesday, April 11, 2006 8:17 PM
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Quote:Originally posted by citizen: I have it from a reliable source that PirateNews is a Commie-Nazi-Alien-Jew Operative First Class, his mission to act like a tit until titage too Human ratio reaches super-critical mass and collapses into one glorious hole. More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes! No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.
Tuesday, April 11, 2006 11:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverman: Um, just a little side note... THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND NO LONGER HAS ANY POWER BEYOND THAT OF A FIGUREHEAD!!! Jesus Christ, have you ever even opened a history book?!?! Or do you just enjoy making absurd shit up?!?! My God, you make Rense.com look positively credible! You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.
Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:42 AM
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SERGEANTX
Wednesday, April 12, 2006 5:41 AM
CHRISISALL
Quote:Originally posted by SergeantX: www.timecube.com
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Quote:Originally posted by citizen: You put your Nazi's in, take your sanity out, In out, in out you shake it all about, You do the Loony Cokey and you dribble on the ground, That's what it's all about! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Brain bent, credubillity stetched Blah blah blah! You put your Commies in, take your sanity out, In out, in out you shake it all about, You do the Loony Cokey and you dribble on the ground, That's what it's all about! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Brain bent, credubillity stetched Blah blah blah! You put your Jews in, take your sanity out, In out, in out you shake it all about, You do the Loony Cokey and you dribble on the ground, That's what it's all about! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Brain bent, credubillity stetched Blah blah blah! You put your Aliens in, take your sanity out, In out, in out you shake it all about, You do the Loony Cokey and you dribble on the ground, That's what it's all about! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Brain bent, credubillity stetched Blah blah blah! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Whoa-o the Loony Cokey! Brain bent, credubillity stetched Blah blah blah! More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes! No beast so fierce but knows some touch of pity. But I know none, and therefore am no beast.
Wednesday, April 12, 2006 10:34 AM
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Quote: http://images.scotsman.com/2002/09/25/2509ARNB.JPG Arnold Schwarzenegger flanked by Warren Buffet, left, and Lord Rothschild, at stately Waddesdon Manor. He plans to move into politics and run for the governorship of California, the platform from which Ronald Reagan propelled himself into the White House. http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=869&id=1063282002 Baron Ferdinand de Rothschild, creator of Waddesdon, loved France and French art. With his French architect Destailleur and his landscape gardener Lainé, he built this Renaissance-style château in a dramatic setting. Waddesdon has one of the best collections of French 18th century decorative arts in the world, paintings, furniture, carpets and curiosities, lovingly assembled over 35 years by Ferdinand to please his weekend guests. Ferdinand's legacy was a splendid foundation on which subsequent generations of the family could build. His sister, Miss Alice, then James and Dorothy de Rothschild and now the present Lord Rothschild have all set their stamp on Waddesdon. The Rothschild banking dynasty was immensely powerful in 19th century Europe. From roots in the Jewish ghetto in Frankfurt, Mayer Amschel's five sons set up a banking network in the then five major financial centres of Europe - London, Frankfurt, Paris, Naples and Vienna. The Five Arrows, as they became known, created vast wealth and established themselves at the very peak of European society. The Manor was only used for weekends in the summer months, for Ferdinand's famous house parties, and was the last word in luxury with electric lights, lifts and under-floor heating. Single or unaccompanied male friends stayed in the Bachelors' Wing, complete with Billiard and Smoking Rooms. Couples stayed in one of the 9 suites in the Main house. Now, the Manor is run by a family charitable trust chaired by the present Lord Rothschild. Almost 300,000 visitors were welcomed to Waddesdon last year. www.waddesdon.org.uk British Lords Rothchild founded Jewish Israel and their mugshots are printed on Israeli currency. German Rothschilds invented the Luciferian Star of Soloman as their family crest and symbol for Jews and Israel www.jr.co.il/pictures/israel/currency
Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:46 AM
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Quote:Originally posted by oldenglanddry: O.K. As long as you dont drown in my pool 'cos thats would just freak me out.
Wednesday, April 12, 2006 12:21 PM
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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by OldEnglandDry: CITIZEN! We've gotta form a band dude! Bagsie lead guitar. We can wear Brown coats and call ourselves "The Sheeples".
Quote:Originally posted by Fletch2: In keeping with the British rock tradition, I bags the job of bandmember who's wild and hedonistic lifestyle makes him a legend in three continents, has more boosem drugs and groupies per year than the whole of Status Quo and whose mysterious death will later be used as the point for the second advert break during the Sheeples "Behind the Music" special on VH1.
Quote:Originally posted by PiRATe JEW: Crikey, no wonder the British slaves still have a King and Queen, with pussies like you blokes worshipping the rotted monarchy.
Wednesday, April 12, 2006 1:34 PM
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Quote: The Grand Union 1775: Also known as the Continental flag, it is the first true U.S. Flag. It combined the British King's Colours and the thirteen stripes signifying Colonial unity. George Washington liked this design so well that he chose it to be flown to celebrate the formation of the Continental Army on New Years Day, 1776. On that day the Grand Union Flag was proudly raised on Prospect Hill in Somerville, near his headquarters at Cambridge, Massachusetts. The Grand Union Flag is available for purchase from my friends at U.S. Flag Depot, Inc. www.usflag.org/history/grandunion1775.html
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Wednesday, April 12, 2006 2:26 PM
Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:26 PM
SEVENPERCENT
Quote:Originally posted by oldenglanddry: Certainly, I'll just get one of my Jew-Mexican-Cannibals to clean it afterwards.
Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by LittleAlbatross: Isn't the British Commonwealth 53 countries? If I had known the RWED forum was so humourous I would have started paying more attention long ago!
Quote:Anglo. combining form 1 English: anglophone. 2 English or British and Anglo-Latin. ORIGIN from Latin Anglus ‘English’. -Compact Oxford Englaish Dictionary Anglo-American. describes something involving the UK and US. -Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary Anglo. white citizen or inhabitant of the U.S. who is of non-Hispanic descent. -Webster's New World Dictionary Sino. an Asian people, combining form Chinese, Chinese and Sinology. -Webster's New World Dictionary
Quote:"Government control of Communications and Transportation." -Communist Manifesto, 6th Plank, written by Karl Marx in London, England www.libertyzone.com/Communist-Manifesto-Planks.html
Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:54 PM
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Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: Joss got uppity and forgot he was the house-nigger of his corporate boss,
Wednesday, April 12, 2006 6:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SevenPercent: Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: Joss got uppity and forgot he was the house-nigger of his corporate boss, Wow! Not just Jews, eh? Come right out and show us what a racist prick you are, why don't you? People might actually take you seriously if you didn't ... no, I think you've pretty much blown any chances of that no matter what. You're a joke, PN - one that isn't funny anymore.
Quote: The Gunpowder Plot: Parliament and Treason 1605 Bush Gang's head on display in British Parliament 2006 www.parliament.uk/parliamentary_publications_and_archives/parliamentary_archives/gunpowder_plot_400_pow.cfm http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/174
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Quote:Originally posted by oldenglanddry: CITIZEN! We've gotta form a band dude! Bagsie lead guitar. We can wear Brown coats and call ourselves "The Sheeples".
Wednesday, April 12, 2006 8:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: You could't even beat your own rainstick. Besides, you're too scared of your own shadow govt. Don't you fuckin tell me what to goddamn do! MY ship! -Mal FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO V2 Tangerine Dream - Thief Soundtrack: Confrontation http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/8912.php
Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:51 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverman: Quote:Originally posted by oldenglanddry: CITIZEN! We've gotta form a band dude! Bagsie lead guitar. We can wear Brown coats and call ourselves "The Sheeples". Oooh! Can I join? I could be the guitarist that gets an ungodly amount of groupies! Sheeples Rock!!! This is going to be a Commie band and Commies allways share. There will be enough groupies for all. I think we need a bassist. You're welcome on my boat. God ain't.
Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:55 AM
Friday, April 14, 2006 8:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by oldenglanddry: This is going to be a Commie band and Commies allways share. There will be enough groupies for all. I think we need a bassist.
Friday, April 14, 2006 9:56 PM
WILDIGSTART
Saturday, April 15, 2006 12:40 AM
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Quote:Clarke hid truth about freed foreign prisoners for 3 weeks By Andrew Pierce, Richard Ford and Greg Hurst The London Times Sunday, April 30th, 2006 Charles Clarke is licensed to kill Brits CHARLES CLARKE knew that foreign prisoners convicted for serious crime had been released without being considered for deportation more than three weeks before he told the Prime Minister, it emerged last night. While the lengthy delay was condemned as “outrageous”, Tony Blair continued to insist that Mr Clarke should remain in office as he tried to avoid a bloody political upheaval in the run-up to this week’s local elections. Genius Charles Clarke, chairman Labour Party, promoted to Edjucashun Secretary http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=572&id=1183592002 The Times has learnt that Mr Blair has ruled out any change now because he fears even more political turmoil would be triggered by the loss of either the Deputy Prime Minister or the Home Secretary — two of the heavyweights in the Government. John Prescott was the subject of more embarrassing claims yesterday after his former assistant diary secretary Tracey Temple gave graphic details of their two-year affair to The Mail on Sunday. Labour MPs and party canvassers have warned Downing Street that the prisoner release fiasco is playing particularly badly on the doorstep. The new disclosure that Mr Clarke failed to tell Mr Blair as soon as he knew about the extent of the problem will not only lead to further dismay within the party as Thursday’s polls draw nearer but revive questions about Mr Clarke’s position. David Davis, the Shadow Home Secretary, said yesterday: “How many more serial errors of judgment can the Home Secretary make to put the public at risk? It is outrageous that he did not tell the Prime Minister for three weeks.” Prevention of Terrorism Bill places citizens under house arrest by fiat of Home Secretary Charles Clarke www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/02/27/nbook27.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/02/27/ixhome.html The release of the 1,023 prisoners, the most serious lapse in penal policy since Labour came to power in 1997, has dominated the last few days of the local election campaign. “It’s all about Charles Clarke and the prisoners. People will not look us in the eye,” one Labour MP said. A 40-year-old mother, who was dragged from the street and raped at knifepoint by a foreign criminal freed from jail after serving a sentence for robbery, yesterday called on Mr Clarke to resign. Mr Blair telephoned Mr Prescott from his Chequers retreat yesterday to insist that he carry on as Deputy Prime Minister despite the publication of lurid details of his sexual relationship with Ms Temple, 43. In The Mail on Sunday Ms Temple said that sexual encounters with Mr Prescott, 67, took place in his private office with the door open while a team of seven civil servants worked outside. They also took place in Mr Prescott’s grace-and-favour apartment in Admiralty Arch. Mr Prescott has said that details of their relationship had been “spiced up” for money and that he will refer The Mail on Sunday to the Press Complaints Commission. The newspaper also reported that Mr Prescott, who has been married to his wife Pauline for 44 years, had a second, two-year relationship with a married former Labour parliamentary candidate at the end of the 1980s. A Downing Street source said: “Nobody is trying to understate or disguise the serious nature of all this but at the same time he [Prescott] is somebody who works closely with the Prime Minister and is continuing as such.” A friend of Mr Prescott said: “John is very distressed for Pauline and his family and for the damage he has done to the party. He feels humiliated but Pauline is as keen as he is that he should not resign over this.” Downing Street also moved to shore up support for Mr Clarke after newspaper reports that Mr Blair was uncertain whether to back him. “Tony still thinks Charles is the man to sort out the Home Office and that nothing that has happened this weekend has changed that position,” said the source. Charles Clarke promoted to Sir Potatohead KBE Sir General Wesley Clark KBE is a Jew www.bloggerheads.com The febrile atmosphere at Westminster before Thursday’s local elections in England was heightened by the intervention of the head of the public standards watchdog. Sir Alistair Graham, the chairman of the Standards in Public Life Committee, questioned whether Mr Prescott had broken the ministerial code of conduct which states: “Ministers of the Crown are expected to behave according to the highest standards of constitutional and personal conduct in the performance of their duties.” It will be up to Mr Blair to decide whether Mr Prescott has breached the code. www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2159709,00.html
Friday, May 5, 2006 5:06 AM
Quote:Charles Clarke is licensed to kill Brits
Friday, May 5, 2006 5:11 AM
Quote:Originally posted by citizen: PirateNews is licensed to rape horses!
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