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Originally posted by Khyron:
Illegal immigration facts and figures: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/guides/456900/456958/html/nn1pag
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Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.

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Professor Predicts 'Hispanic Homeland'

By The Associated Press


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ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. — A University of New Mexico Chicano Studies professor predicts a new, sovereign Hispanic nation within the century, taking in the Southwest and several northern states of Mexico.

Charles Truxillo suggests the “Republica del Norte,” the Republic of the North, is “an inevitability.”

He envisions it encompassing all of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas and southern Colorado, plus the northern tier of Mexican states: Baja California, Sonora, Chihuahua, Coahuila, Nuevo León and Tamaulipas.

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Terrorist traitors hoist Mexican flag at a California school
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Along both sides of the U.S.-Mexico border “there is a growing fusion, a reviving of connections,” Truxillo said. “Southwest Chicanos and Norteño Mexicanos are becoming one people again.”

Truxillo, 47, has said the new country should be brought into being “by any means necessary,” but recently said it was unlikely to be formed by civil war. Instead, its creation will be accomplished by the electoral pressure of the future majority Hispanic population in the region, he said.

Other UNM professors were skeptical

Felipe Gonzáles, director of UNM's Southwest Hispanic Research Institute, said there's a “certain homeland undercurrent” among New Mexico Hispanics who believe land was stolen and promises broken. But, he said, a new nation would need much more widespread support.

“Educated elites are going to have to pick up on this idea and run with it and use it as a point of confrontation if it is to succeed,” Gonzáles said.

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"We have an aging white America. They are dying. We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."
-Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas, Arlington, founder of La Raza Unida (The Race United)

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Truxillo contends states have the right to secede under the Articles of Confederation of 1777, in which states retained “sovereignty, freedom and independence.” He contends the Articles were not superseded in that regard by the U.S. Constitution and that although the Civil War settled the question militarily, it was never resolved by courts.

History Professor Daniel Feller disagreed

“The Constitution does supersede the Articles of Confederation,” Feller said. “It takes no notice of the articles and is not presented as bearing any relation to them. The Constitution does not declare, recognize or in any way acknowledge the right to secede.”

And, he noted, the full title was “Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union.”

The U.S. Supreme Court said in 1869 the union was indestructible, political science Professor Joseph Stewart said.

He also said he was “somewhat skeptical in the sense of minority politics” about a possible Republic of the North. He said Americans of Mexican descent have moved all over the United States and that “I don't see that Hispanic population becoming more distinct but in fact becoming less distinct.”

Juan José Peña, Hispanic activist and vice chairman of the Hispanic Roundtable, said there's not enough political consciousness among Mexican Americans to form a separate nation.

“Right now, there's no movement capable of undertaking it,” he said.

Truxillo, who teaches at UNM's Chicano Studies Program on a yearly contract, believes it's his job to help develop a “cadre of intellectuals” to think about how it can become a reality.

Native-born American Hispanics feel like strangers in their own land, he said

“We remain subordinated,” he said. “We have a negative image of our own culture, created by the media. Self-loathing is a terrible form of oppression. The long history of oppression and subordination has to end.”

Truxillo said Hispanics who have achieved positions of power or otherwise are “enjoying the benefits of assimilation” are most likely to oppose a new nation.

“There will be the negative reaction, the tortured response of someone who thinks, 'Give me a break. I just want to go to Wal-Mart.' But the idea will seep into their consciousness, and cause an internal crisis, a pain of conscience, an internal dialogue as they ask themselves: 'Who am I in this system?”'


Dr. Charles Truxillo is a native of New Mexico. He attended public schools in Albuquerque and Belen. Dr. Truxillo received his graduate and undergraduate degrees from the University of New Mexico, majoring in Latin American, Borderlands, and Asian History. Dr. Truxillo also attended St. Michael's Catholic seminary in California. Later, he worked as an instructor in the University College of UNM, serving as director of the University College's Social Science program from 1988 to 1990. Throughout this period Dr. Truxillo traveled extensively in Mexico, Central America, Spain, and Western Europe. Between 1992 and 1997, he was an Assistant Professor of History at New Mexico Highlands University. While at NMHI, he annually organized student tours to Mexico and sponsored student and faculty forums and symposiums.

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COVER OF HOT NEW ALBUM: MEXICANS SHOWN SPEARING AMERICAN "PIGS"

Lyrics
506 years of indigenous resistance
The prophecies are coming true
The redemption of the red people has come!
The 6th sun now arises
The 7th fire has arrived
Cihuatl is reclaiming
We have returned to Aztlan
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WE DIDN'T CROSS THE BORDERS, THE BORDERS CROSSED US YET THE SETTLER NATION LIVES IN DISGUST!!

GET THE FUCK OUT, GET THE FUCK OUT, GET THE FUCK, FUCK, FUCK OUT GET THE FUCK OUT

WASICHU [White Man] EATER OF THE FAT WASTER OF EARTH MOTHER AND PEOPLE COLONIZER OF AZTLAN AND THE WORLD GET THE FUCK OUT!!!!

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Immigrant Myths Vs Facts
The New American
http://rense.com/general70/immg.htm


Mexico To Legalize 'Personal' Pot, Cocaine & Heroin

4-29-6

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Possessing marijuana, cocaine and even heroin will no longer be a crime in Mexico if they are in small amounts for personal use under new reforms passed by Congress that quickly drew U.S. criticism. The measure given final passage 53-26 by senators in a late night session on Thursday is aimed at letting police focus on their battle against major drug dealers, and President Vicente Fox is expected to sign it into law.
http://rense.com/general70/pot.htm

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How to deal with criminal invaders from Mexico @ 6,000 bullets per second

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:

If I told all of you what I did for a living, you would never believe it, but thank you for giving me the opportunity to voice and vent my point of views, and thank you for treating me like one of yourselves.

River

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Originally posted by Vyse:
I'm willing to bet though that while European gas prices are higher than the U.S.'s, their real wages are higher than the U.S.'s also. You have top take that into account when translating funds.

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Why do you THINK Jr Bush's PR firm and the Mexican Fox's PR firm picked May 1 for their illegal riots by criminal alien hoodlums? May 1 is Communist May Day, Satanic Beltane, birthday of the Bavarian Illuminati, and LAW DAY...

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Originally posted by Vyse:
I'm willing to bet though that while European gas prices are higher than the U.S.'s, their real wages are higher than the U.S.'s also. You have top take that into account when translating funds.

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Wages between the US and UK are comparable, with goods costing much more in the UK.

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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
And as you know, these are open forums, you're able to come and listen to what I have to say.

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Originally posted by Amiton:
Soupcatcher,

Might I inquire on just one point in your opinion? The number being bandied about for illegal immigrants in the US is 12 million, give or take. I think you can grant me that I'm not posting information to back that up, and I'll grant that it's just the number I keep hearing in the press. It can very easily be wrong, and I don't know any better.

You don't like the illustration about those 12 million people breaking the law, because you think in your opinion it's a fair law to break. What do you say about the people that take the time and effort to enter the US properly? It's a difficult, expensive, and very long process that those people endure. We're talking thousands of dollars (which in almost any case I've ever seen has been an extreme financial burden) and a year or longer that they can't even *visit* the US (once they've been accepted to processing, which could be several years on top of that), lest their application be rejected and the process be started over again from scratch.

Are these people just stupid fools for making every effort to adhere to the laws and regulations established by the US? Perhaps everyone that wants to "be American" should just jump a flight to a location near a US border and enter illegally, since that's the more effective way to do things?

Amiton.

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:

To extend SoupCatcher's analogy, what if speeding were suddenly raised to the level of a felony? Mandatory jail time for speeders, licences suspended indefinitely... "Well, it is illegal to speed, so what's the problem?" The problem is that it's an abuse of governmental power. A perversion of why we the people suffer our government to exist in the first place.

Did ya all see V for Vendetta? "People shouldn't be afraid of their governments, governments should be afraid of their people."

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Folks, it's deeply hypocritical to exploit these immigrants' illegal status, offering them deplorably low wages under tacet threat of deportation and worse. As has been said, the process of legal immigration is arduous and expensive--these people wouldn't have a chance. Just because being illegal in this country is better than being a natural born citizen of their native countries; just because conditions in their native countries are far worse than anything they'll get from us, doesn't give us the right to sink to just above their level.

(Man, where have I heard this argument before? Oh, I remember, "Well, at least we're better than the Terrorists!")

Cheap foreign labor has been the name of the game in these parts since the days of slavery. And now we decide to put 'em all in jail? Who are we kidding? Do you think for a second that if this kind of law was passed, we would enforce it in any but the most perfunctory way? Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the new War On: The War on Illegality.

To extend SoupCatcher's analogy, what if speeding were suddenly raised to the level of a felony? Mandatory jail time for speeders, licences suspended indefinitely... "Well, it is illegal to speed, so what's the problem?" The problem is that it's an abuse of governmental power. A perversion of why we the people suffer our government to exist in the first place.

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Originally posted by Amiton:
What should be done to actively discourage the idea that illegally migrating to the US is a great, low risk way to get ahead?

Amiton.

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I don't have the time to give you the reply you deserve, but I just hadda make this one point real clear: illegally migrating to the U.S. IS NOT a "great, low risk way to get ahead!" Illegals are at the mercy of law enforcement's very intentional negligence. Which puts them on a legal par with prostitutes. Have you heard of the term "second class citizen?" It is, as has been noted, just a notch above outright slavery. Great and low risk? Yeah, maybe for Walmart!

Hey, and did you know that a lot of these illegal aliens are college educated professionals in their own countries, but unable to legally practice in our country, these doctors and professors are forced to wash dishes so their families can eat? Only the most sociopathic are illegally coming up here thinking, "Whoohoo! I'm on the gravy train now!"

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