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Wahhabsim: The philosophy of Saudi jiahd, and ISIS

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Tuesday, October 27, 2015 10:15 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I've been doing some research on this, and I thought I would share what I found.

Much of the Sunni world is driven by Wahhabism, which was spread throughout the Muslim world by Saudi wealth (a four decades-long project).

Looking into Wahhabism and its tennets, I can see how al Qaida and ISIS came into being, and why the internecine warfare between Wahhabist Sunni and Shia.

Wahhabism is, as they say, an "austere" interpretation of Islam. It depends on several main tenets:

The first is that any Islamic interpretation other than Wahhabism deserves death. There is no co-existance with Wahhabism. It's either "convert of die". Most other interpretations are tolerant, not only of other Islamic sects, but of other religions. Not Wahhabism. Wahhabis reserve their special enmity for the Shiite interpretation of Islam.

Killing someone of course allows you to steal their goods, including women and children. (Clearly, women and children are considered "property" under Wahhabism. It's an underlying tenet that they don't say out loud but is practiced freely.)

Wahhabism is an extremely accusatory religion; it rests on denunciation of others by its adherents in order to "prove" their faith. That means denouncing local Islamic customs and practices (which I'll get to in a moment) and especially denouncing and killing Shia Muslims.

One who denounces another is a "takfir". Wahhabism is sometimes called Takfirism because of this regular practice of denouncing others, and lining them up for being killed (and stealing their goods and land).

For whatever reason, the adherents of Wahhabism resort to horrific ways of killing people. That's been a foundational characteristic since the beginning of the religion in 1740.

Another tenet requires that all other objects of worship be destroyed, since they distract from the worship of Allah alone. That means objects and places of worship aside from mosques: tombs of respected (revered) mullahs/imams, gravestones, etc. The destruction of historical sites isn't just malicious vandalism, it's part of their religion.

Wahhabism is also very political. In addition to worshiping Allah, and only Allah, Wahhabism requires singular faithfulness to the caliph. So there's a direct line, from Allah to Mohammed to the caliph (whoever that is) - and gruesome death to anyone who believes differently.

There's more, but basically the tennets of Wahhabism were used by ibn Saud (and sons) to provide a religious authority to banditry and barbarism. It's been the foundation of Saudi Arabia since 1920.

In that light, the practices of ISIS aren't new. They're a reversion to the Wahhabism of old, and should have been predictable.

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Tuesday, October 27, 2015 10:12 PM

THGRRI


Former Chess Champ Kasparov: Make Putin Look Like a Loser

“He is getting crazier and crazier. Yes, he’s running out of money and he’s still spending a lot of his remaining funds on military, security and propaganda. This is the war budget and if he’s really desperate, he’ll start new wars -- war about crossing innate borders in The Baltic State. Or also trying to push ISIS down south to start with Arabia.”


http://www.foxbusiness.com/business-leaders/2015/10/27/former-chess-ch
amp-kasparov-make-putin-look-like-loser
/


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Wednesday, October 28, 2015 10:30 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Russia has a public debt to GDP ratio of somewhere around 10%, according to the World Bank, the CIA, and the IMF
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/GC.DOD.TOTL.GD.ZS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt

OR currently around 17% by some measures
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/government-debt-to-gdp

Russia has a decreased but still positive balance of trade, even with the sanctions in place (i.e. a trade surplus)
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/balance-of-trade

a domestic private debt of 59% to credit ratio
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/FS.AST.PRVT.GD.ZS

And foreign reserves around $360 billion



Do you know which nation has been bankrupted by war and mismanagements???

The UNITED STATES

By any measure, the USA is broke, with a balance of trade that has been strongly and unbrokenly negative since about 1974,
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/united-states/balance-of-trade

and public debt of at least 80% of GDP
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt

a domestic private debt of 104% to credit ratio
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/FS.AST.PRVT.GD.ZS


and a NONFINANCIAL DEBT of 240% of GDP. (If you include financial debt, that goes even higher)
http://www.ibtimes.com/exploding-private-plus-government-debt-gdp-davo
s-world-economic-forum-conversation-starter-1544648



The only thing that saves the USA's bacon is that it has Special Drawing Rights (SDR) at the IMF, which allows its currency to be used as a reserve currency by other nations. (BTW, China's currency will probably achieve SDR next month, anticipated to take some wind out of the USA sails.)
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Russia/United-States/
Economy


IF anybody should be frightened by future economic trends, its the USA ...












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Wednesday, October 28, 2015 12:23 PM

THGRRI


Quote:


SIG
Russia has a public debt to GDP ratio of somewhere around 10%, according to the World Bank, the CIA, and the IMF
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/GC.DOD.TOTL.GD.ZS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt




Russia built up it's reserves when oil was $147.00 a barrel. The numbers you post rely on 2010 numbers when oil averaged $80.00 a barrel. Today oil goes for half that, $43.12 a barrel. Add to that loss of revenues from the sanctions and the fact that Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov "prompted more concerns over the health of the Russian economy Tuesday when he said there was a danger that the country's vast Reserve Fund could be entirely exhausted in 2016 if oil prices stay at their current level." I will be reposting this post again in 8 months or less as one more example that you are dishonest, know nothing and just post propaganda.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/27/russias-reserve-fund-could-run-empty-in
-2016.html


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SIG
OR currently around 17% by some measures
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/government-debt-to-gdp


Russia Government Debt to GDP is 17.92 Percent for 2013. The 2015 Forecast 35.0296, and the 2017 forecast is 56.4738. Not so good huh?

http://ieconomics.com/russia-government-debt-to-gdp-forecast

Quote:


SIG

Russia has a decreased but still positive balance of trade, even with the sanctions in place (i.e. a trade surplus)
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/balance-of-trade




Russia's Foreign Trade Is Collapsing

"Foreign trade marginally decreased over the course of 2014. Through the first three quarters, exports were off by about 4.5% and imports were off by 2.1%. That’s not catastrophic by any means, but it was clear deceleration from the previous trend and suggested that there would be further trouble on the horizon. The collapse in oil prices that took place over the last few months of 2014, and the attendant fall in the value of the ruble, made it all but certain that the first few months of 2015 were going to be ugly." That's now factual and it get's worse from here.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2015/03/25/russias-foreign-tr
ade-is-collapsing
/





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Wednesday, October 28, 2015 4:55 PM

THGRRI


We have a gross national product of 18 trillion in the United States. We collected 6.6 trillion in 2014 in taxes. Do the math. While what we owe sucks and borderlines on stupid, paying it off is certainly doable.


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Thursday, October 29, 2015 2:09 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"We have a gross national product of 18 trillion in the United States. We collected 6.6 trillion in 2014 in taxes. Do the math. While what we owe sucks and borderlines on stupid, paying it off is certainly doable."

Let's see ... about 326 million people total need about 500 each per month for food

* 12 months = 2 trillion just for food. If food is about 10% of the average personal budget, http://www.valuepenguin.com/average-household-budget, then the total amount of money needed DIRECTLY SPENT ON PEOPLE is 20 trillion, more or less.

So, we could pay it off out of the total GDP if we had nothing else to do with the money ... if we didn't let people eat or drink or clothe themselves or live in buildings or ...





SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Thursday, October 29, 2015 5:10 PM

THGRRI


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
"We have a gross national product of 18 trillion in the United States. We collected 6.6 trillion in 2014 in taxes. Do the math. While what we owe sucks and borderlines on stupid, paying it off is certainly doable."

Let's see ... about 326 million people total need about 500 each per month for food

* 12 months = 2 trillion just for food. If food is about 10% of the average personal budget, http://www.valuepenguin.com/average-household-budget, then the total amount of money needed DIRECTLY SPENT ON PEOPLE is 20 trillion, more or less.

So, we could pay it off out of the total GDP if we had nothing else to do with the money ... if we didn't let people eat or drink or clothe themselves or live in buildings or ...





Yeah ok, I am not sure I understand what it is you are saying except we here know you as a commie socialist. In other words you want to do away with private industry and let the government run everything. I don't think economics is your strong suite. Opps, I know economics is not your strong suite.


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Sunday, November 1, 2015 1:16 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Erdogan party on track to winning back majority in Turkey
More ISIS-luvin' from Turkey!

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Sunday, November 1, 2015 7:31 PM

MAGONSDAUGHTER


Interesting initial post, signy. I've read a bit about Wahhabism and its inluence on modern Islam - got to despise religious extremists, don't you. The sooner the human population shrugs off the yoke of religion the better.

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Sunday, November 1, 2015 8:11 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Still waiting for THUGGR to address the simple math of his fantasy.

We have a gross national product of 18 trillion in the United States. We collected 6.6 trillion in 2014 in taxes. Do the math. While what we owe sucks and borderlines on stupid, paying it off is certainly doable.

Let's see ... about 326 million people total need about 500 each per month for food

* 12 months = 2 trillion just for food. If food is about 10% of the average personal budget, http://www.valuepenguin.com/average-household-budget, then the total amount of money needed DIRECTLY SPENT ON PEOPLE is 20 trillion, more or less.

So, we could pay it off out of the total GDP if we had nothing else to do with the money ... if we didn't let people eat or drink or clothe themselves or live in buildings or ...

Wait, according to THUGGR, pointing out that people can't survive on NOTHING is socialist.


And, oh yeah ...

THUGGR

Humanitarian. (snicker)
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=58208&p=5
Who gives a shit?


HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ...






SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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Monday, November 2, 2015 10:48 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Interesting initial post, signy. I've read a bit about Wahhabism and its inluence on modern Islam - got to despise religious extremists, don't you. The sooner the human population shrugs off the yoke of religion the better.



The day can't come soon enough!

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Friday, November 6, 2015 8:27 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by Magonsdaughter:
Interesting initial post, signy. I've read a bit about Wahhabism and its inluence on modern Islam - got to despise religious extremists, don't you. The sooner the human population shrugs off the yoke of religion the better.



The day can't come soon enough!

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Friday, November 6, 2015 10:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I'm interested in what the video is, but it doesn't show up on my screen. All I get is an error message.

Try this: If it's a Youtube video, click on the button that says "share". An alternate url will show up in a window underneath, of the format

" https ://youtu.be/etc..."

Copy THAT url into your post, delete the "s" from https (=> http://) and it should work. Please try that, I hope it works for you!

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Friday, November 6, 2015 11:30 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


let me try again, its about 28 censored pages from 911 https :// youtu .be/ FRPD-y-FfbM
...it won't embed
<
this is another vid, it may work
http: // youtu.be/ m-bYPhDbbIA


EDIT...no can't link for whatever reason

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Saturday, November 28, 2015 1:19 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2015/11/27/center-for-s
ecurity-policyrrw-youtube-passes-the-2-million-views-mark
/

RRW Youtube passes 2 million



Rense, woo woo tinfoil heads are going crazy on radio






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Monday, November 30, 2015 5:05 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Quote:

Originally posted by G:


Crazy = Mo' Money on the Internet

Although in Rense's case, I think Crazy = Crazy



what should we do when the conspiracy heads and lizard ufo nuts are finally making more sense than mainstream media?







its a weird world
a weird world when woo woo tinfoils make sense and the mainstream media sound like a re-run of old fake lying tv shows


but don't worry, let's bring in the refugees and even if bombs go off the USA still got Paris France supported, the USA got their backs after this new crisis...totally unforseen, not predicted terrorism, totally random shocking crisis
- sarcasm off -



being serious, I do have great respect for the US military and I do have deep sympathy for those who were killed by barbaric jihad terrorists...but this weird game has been going on while, many of us are cynical because we have seen this corruption many times before

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Saturday, August 5, 2023 1:31 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Biden’s Moral Calculus in Brokering a Saudi-Israeli Peace Deal
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/bidens-moral-calculus-in-broker
ing-a-saudi-israeli-peace-deal


Joe Biden Wants You to Kill and Die for the Saudi Monarchy
https://jacobin.com/2023/08/joe-biden-saudi-arabia-monarchy-mutual-def
ense-pact-war-foreign-relations

The Biden administration is entertaining the idea of pursuing a US-Saudi mutual
Al-Qaeda Taliban-ish ISIS?
defense pact.


The Zeihan homosexual Deep State connected dipshit

'Saudi Arabia is a very useful partner to have'

https://zeihan.com/us-and-saudi-arabia-relations-part-1/

claims the Mexico invaded, hundreds of thousands of American dying of the Fentanly United States would flourish compared to other nations and states, very data driven lots counting the numbers of trees in a forest but fails to examine any single tree, a sales man for West and America INC, thinks France is winning and seller for the gun runners, McDonalds and Uber, very shallow criticism from Zeihan on Obama how he divided the USA or the mistakes the administration did.

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Saturday, August 5, 2023 3:11 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I couldn't help but notice that in a thread about Wahhabism, THUGR posts bullshit about... RUSSIA!!!

I've long since learned that he, like SECOND, are obsessed by certain topics and will post endlessly, obsessively, and everywhere about his favorite topic.

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Sunday, December 10, 2023 12:00 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


So much getting deleted

Re-Upload VICE: Inside Saudi Crown Prince’s Ruthless Quest For Power | Investigators
https://altcensored.com/watch?v=yumr5tRitvU

altCen Ed. note, original video made 'private' by VICE after announcing a partnership deal with a Saudi Arabian government-owned media company:

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Sunday, December 10, 2023 12:57 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:


SIG
Russia has a public debt to GDP ratio of somewhere around 10%, according to the World Bank, the CIA, and the IMF
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/GC.DOD.TOTL.GD.ZS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt




Russia built up it's reserves when oil was $147.00 a barrel. The numbers you post rely on 2010 numbers when oil averaged $80.00 a barrel. Today oil goes for half that, $43.12 a barrel. Add to that loss of revenues from the sanctions and the fact that Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov "prompted more concerns over the health of the Russian economy Tuesday when he said there was a danger that the country's vast Reserve Fund could be entirely exhausted in 2016 if oil prices stay at their current level." I will be reposting this post again in 8 months or less as one more example that you are dishonest, know nothing and just post propaganda.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/10/27/russias-reserve-fund-could-run-empty-in
-2016.html


Quote:


SIG
OR currently around 17% by some measures
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/government-debt-to-gdp


Russia Government Debt to GDP is 17.92 Percent for 2013. The 2015 Forecast 35.0296, and the 2017 forecast is 56.4738. Not so good huh?

http://ieconomics.com/russia-government-debt-to-gdp-forecast

Quote:


SIG

Russia has a decreased but still positive balance of trade, even with the sanctions in place (i.e. a trade surplus)
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/balance-of-trade




Russia's Foreign Trade Is Collapsing

"Foreign trade marginally decreased over the course of 2014. Through the first three quarters, exports were off by about 4.5% and imports were off by 2.1%. That’s not catastrophic by any means, but it was clear deceleration from the previous trend and suggested that there would be further trouble on the horizon. The collapse in oil prices that took place over the last few months of 2014, and the attendant fall in the value of the ruble, made it all but certain that the first few months of 2015 were going to be ugly." That's now factual and it get's worse from here.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2015/03/25/russias-foreign-tr
ade-is-collapsing
/




Say, THUGR, how does it feel to be wrong, AGAIN???


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Sunday, December 10, 2023 1:24 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I've been doing some research on this, and I thought I would share what I found.

Much of the Sunni world is driven by Wahhabism, which was spread throughout the Muslim world by Saudi wealth (a four decades-long project).

Looking into Wahhabism and its tennets, I can see how al Qaida and ISIS came into being, and why the internecine warfare between Wahhabist Sunni and Shia.

Wahhabism is, as they say, an "austere" interpretation of Islam. It depends on several main tenets:

The first is that any Islamic interpretation other than Wahhabism deserves death. There is no co-existance with Wahhabism. It's either "convert of die". Most other interpretations are tolerant, not only of other Islamic sects, but of other religions. Not Wahhabism. Wahhabis reserve their special enmity for the Shiite interpretation of Islam.

Killing someone of course allows you to steal their goods, including women and children. (Clearly, women and children are considered "property" under Wahhabism. It's an underlying tenet that they don't say out loud but is practiced freely.)

Wahhabism is an extremely accusatory religion; it rests on denunciation of others by its adherents in order to "prove" their faith. That means denouncing local Islamic customs and practices (which I'll get to in a moment) and especially denouncing and killing Shia Muslims.

One who denounces another is a "takfir". Wahhabism is sometimes called Takfirism because of this regular practice of denouncing others, and lining them up for being killed (and stealing their goods and land).

For whatever reason, the adherents of Wahhabism resort to horrific ways of killing people. That's been a foundational characteristic since the beginning of the religion in 1740.

Another tenet requires that all other objects of worship be destroyed, since they distract from the worship of Allah alone. That means objects and places of worship aside from mosques: tombs of respected (revered) mullahs/imams, gravestones, etc. The destruction of historical sites isn't just malicious vandalism, it's part of their religion.

Wahhabism is also very political. In addition to worshiping Allah, and only Allah, Wahhabism requires singular faithfulness to the caliph. So there's a direct line, from Allah to Mohammed to the caliph (whoever that is) - and gruesome death to anyone who believes differently.

There's more, but basically the tennets of Wahhabism were used by ibn Saud (and sons) to provide a religious authority to banditry and barbarism. It's been the foundation of Saudi Arabia since 1920.

In that light, the practices of ISIS aren't new. They're a reversion to the Wahhabism of old, and should have been predictable.



On a relevant point: All Muslims aren't head -chopping wahabbists, just as all Xtians aren't nutjob fundamentalists.

However, the USA State Dept and/or CIA was very happy to use head-chopping nutjob Muslims to attack Russia in Afghanistan, Syria, and Chechnya. And were were more than happy to overthrow moderate, reformist, or secular leaders in the Mideast and N Africa.

We really should pick our proxies better bc they may be useful in the short run, but in the long run they seem come back and bite us.

I would say the same about Israel - not a good proxy, more often than not leads us to torpedo our actual interests in the ME. And too often the tail that wags the dog.

WHAT ARE OUR INTERESTS IN THE MIDEAST AND ELSEWHERE?

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Sunday, March 24, 2024 6:55 PM

JAYNEZTOWN





Islamic State Claims Attack on Niger Army That Killed Dozens

https://www.voanews.com/a/islamic-state-claims-attack-on-niger-army-th
at-killed-dozens-/7540320.html


I thought the Trump Admin had finished most of them

most of the old Susan Wojcicki team seem to have done a good job on their stalinist fascist censoring of people silence on voices of you tube with lots of dead links, I always said to try other sites when I seen that massive ban wave arrive

and looks like those camelfucker goatrapist terrorists are officially back with the recent attack on Moscow

The British, Canadians and USA even warned them that this type of islamo group was going to attack after giving warnings to avoid concerts but they didnt get the date exactly correct in the warning

Reports say the terrorists were Tajik. The Tajikistani president's now disavowing them shitting himself if any Putin missiles are pointed his way, makes a statement to Russia about sympathy maybe and probably after changing his pants.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 1:49 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Missiles are far too good for these dogs.

Pure torture and terror for the rest of their lives is the only thing that they deserve in their future.

Their diseased religious cult will no longer be tolerated by the civilized.

May Israel raze the Gaza Strip to the ground and not stop until every last dog that does not renounce Allah finally gets their chance to meet him.

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Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 2:59 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SIX, you missed an important point:

On a relevant point: All Muslims aren't head -chopping wahabbists, just as all Xtians aren't nutjob fundamentalists.

You're conflating all Muslims with Whabbists, and Palestinians with hatd-core nut job Sunnis.

Wahhabists kill because it's "convert or die", and anything that gets in the way of their perfect Muslim world has to be destroyed. They're fighting for their brand of reli.

Hamas/ Palestinians aren't fighting for religion, they're fighting for their homes and their lives, which Israelis are taking from them kilometer by kilometer and soul by soul.

Here's another group you know nothing about: Hezbollah. Hezbollah, which is a Shia group based in Lebanon, is fighting for Lebanese (and Syrian) national sovereignty. No more invasions and attempted regine-changes by Israel and the USA.

Syria is FULL of Muslims, but the President belongs to a real Muslim minority, the Alswites. As such, he is protective of all religious minorities in Syria, including Alawites, Druze, and Christians. Syria is a secular nation (unlike Israel and Saudi Arabia). He, Hezbollah, and Russia are fighting the nut-job Sunni Wahhabists who are trying to topple the government an impose their nut-job religion on everyone. They are also fighting Israel which keeps trying to invade.

Iran is also mainly Shia, and like Lebanon and Syria they are fighfing for national sovereignty. I have no idea why the USA has such a grotch against Iran. I can only think of three reasons:
1) They had the temerity to overthrow the USA- installed dictator, the Shah of Iran, put up their own government, and nationalize their oil, and
2) They are the most developed and populous nation in the ME and represent a real threat to USA hegemony in the region and
3) They are the nail that refuses to be hammered down

Hamas resorts to guerrilla tactics and targets civilians. (Altho many Israelis were killed by IDF Oct 7 in their panic to kill Hamas).

Iran, I have read, is pretty corrupt. The religious leaders rake off business profits and live quite well.

Hezbollah and Syria both seem to be on the up-and-up.

So when you conflate all Muslims with Wahhabists and call for genocide, you're speaking from an extremely deep well of ignorance. Its clear you've never spoken with any real-live Muslims and don't know anything about the Mideast, bc many Muslims are as against Wahhabism as you, and are actually fighting it, like with guns and tanks.

You really should educate yourself.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 4:25 AM

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SIX, you missed an important point.



I didn't miss that lie.

I threw it right in the trash where it belongs.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 9:36 AM

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Then I'm throwing you in the trash, along with all the other ignorant white trash.


Really, SIX, you're better than that.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 11:41 AM

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Then I'm throwing you in the trash, along with all the other ignorant white trash.


Really, SIX, you're better than that.

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Your conflating 100% Apostasy or paying for the crimes of your religion with the word Genocide.

This is no different than how Second and Ted always conflate Racism with Nationalism.

Islam as a dangerous and diseased pseudo-religious cult needs to be eradicated and has no place in civilized society.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 1:26 PM

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Netanyahu cancels Israeli delegation to US over UN Gaza vote

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/netanyahu-cancels-israeli-delegat
ion-to-us-over-un-gaza-vote/ar-BB1kvfB2


Good for you, Netanyahu. Time to remove all of them from the equation once and for all.

If GWB didn't fuck around with non-committal half-measures and did what needed to be done instead of using 9/11 as an excuse to destroy American's privacy and Constitutional Rights in the first place, none of this would be happening today.

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Monday, March 25, 2024 3:52 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


[uote]Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Then I'm throwing you in the trash, along with all the other ignorant white trash.

Really, SIX, you're better than that.

SIX: Your conflating 100% Apostasy


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apostasy /?-pos't?-se/
noun

1) Abandonment of one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause. An abandonment of what one has voluntarily professed;
2) a total desertion of departure from one's faith, principles, or party; esp., the renunciation of a religious faith



I have no idea what you're trying to to say. Killing people en mass isn't apostasy (getting people to renounce their religion). There's no possible way to conflate them. It's like you're drunk- posting, so please clarify.


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or paying for the crimes of your religion [not apostasy] with the word Genocide.

This is no different than how Second and Ted always conflate Racism with Nationalism.



Like I said, you're not making sense. The logical thread is broken.

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Islam as a dangerous and diseased pseudo-religious cult needs to be eradicated and has no place in civilized society.


SIX, the Chechens ... MUSLIMS ... are fighting terrorists and they would make excellent anti- terrorist allies, if we would let them.

The Syrian government... MUSLIMS... are fighting terrorists (ISIS, Al Qeda) on their own soil, and they would make excellent anti- terrorist allies, if we would let them. Instead, we're fighting them.

You're conflating "Muslim" with "terrorism".
Couple of comments:

You need to think real carefully about what terrorism is.
Terrorism is a TACTIC. It is the targeting of civilians to terrorize them, to bring about political, social, or religious change. It's not limited to a religion, or limited by the size of the strike, or the standing of the perpetrator:

Blowing yourself up at a bus stop.
Bringing down airplanes and buildings.
Burning a building full of civilians.
Shelling civilian buildings.
Bombing civilian centers (to bring about "regime change" for example).


ANYONE who resorts to terror tactics is a terrorist. Doesn't matter if you're a jihadists with a suicide vest or drone pilot or a covert operator or military unit.

You can't fight "terrorism" with terrorism, all you can do is expand it.

You CAN fight terrorists, tho. You just better make sure you have identified them correctly, because if you start targeting uninvolved civilians... well, that makes YOU a terrorist, too.


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Monday, March 25, 2024 4:14 PM

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[uote]Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Then I'm throwing you in the trash, along with all the other ignorant white trash.

Really, SIX, you're better than that.

SIX: Your conflating 100% Apostasy



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apostasy /?-pos't?-se/
noun

1) Abandonment of one's religious faith, a political party, one's principles, or a cause. An abandonment of what one has voluntarily professed;
2) a total desertion of departure from one's faith, principles, or party; esp., the renunciation of a religious faith



I have no idea what you're trying to to say. Killing people en mass isn't apostasy (getting people to renounce their religion). There's no possible way to conflate them. It's like you're drunk- posting, so please clarify.


They renounce their diseased god, or they die. Pretty simple.


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Monday, March 25, 2024 4:19 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So that makes you like the Wahhabists: convert or die.

SECOND. I repeat: there are plenty of Muslims who are fighting terrorists. They would make excellent allies.
IDK why you insist on lumping everyone together in the same bucket. They're not the same. Go after terrorists, and go after ALL terrorists, not just the ones you've been trained to be scared of.

You're normally pretty good at sussing out propaganda.

AND BESIDES, THIS TERROR ATTACK SMELLS POLITICAL TO ME, NOT RELIGIOUS.

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