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DoD to release 9/11 Pentagon AA77 impact video
Tuesday, May 16, 2006 6:55 AM
BARNSTORMER
Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:45 AM
FUTUREMRSFILLION
Tuesday, May 16, 2006 7:56 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by BarnStormer: Course, I don't expect that will convince any of the nut jobs of the world it was'nt faked. They'll hold on to their "Bush did it" theory like limpets on a rock.
Tuesday, May 16, 2006 8:11 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Tuesday, May 16, 2006 11:21 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:"This is not throwing a dog a bone, this is throwing a picture of a bone." -Dave von Kleist, Coast to Coast AM, 1510 WLAC Nashville, Tennessee, May 17, 2001 http://911inplanesite.com http://thepowerhour.com "I could not see a large airliner hit the Pentagon." -George Noory, Coast to Coast AM, 1510 WLAC Nashville, Tennessee, May 17, 2001 http://coasttocoastam.com "It looks like a small plane, a Global Hawk, some kind of robot drone." -Alex Jones, Coast to Coast AM, 1510 WLAC Nashville, Tennessee, May 17, 2001 http://infowars.com "Don't you love the timing? The Pentagon suddenly releases 14 frames, instead of 5 frames. I'm underwealmed. Why don't we get to see all the other videos that show what hit the Pentagon?" -Jim Marrs, Coast to Coast AM, 1510 WLAC Nashville, Tennessee, May 17, 2001 http://jimmarrs.com www.geocities.com/skull_and_bones_nazis http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1 www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf
Quote:"I did not have any knowledge of and was not a member of the plot to hijack planes and crash them into buildings on Sept. 11, 2001. I wish to withdraw my guilty plea and ask the court for a new trial to prove my innocence of the Sept. 11 plot. I have never met Mohammed Atta and, while I may have seen a few of the other hijackers, I never knew them or anything about their operation." —Zacarias Moussaoui (Frenchman), US v. Moussaoui, 1:01-cr-00455 (Virginia), "Motion to Withdraw Guilty Plea", May 8, 2006 http://notablecases.vaed.uscourts.gov/1:01-cr-00455/DocketSheet1.html Pete Williams: "The old outbursts were gone... He was very docile today... We believe that he's wearing one of those stun belts, and it may be that he was very worried about doing anything that would cause those Marshals to press the button...." Dan Abrams: "A stun belt? They literally have something around his waist? That they can push a button and?" Pete Williams: (Pause) "Well..." —MSNBC, "MSNBC VIDEO: Moussaoui wore 'stun belt' for new testimony" http://www.total411.info/2006/03/msnbc-video-moussaoui-wore-stun-belt.html "The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it. I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons. I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders' rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations." -USAma Bin Laden (CIA code name Jew Tim OSSman when in California buying SAMS from CIA), business partner with Bush family since 1947, brother Salem Bin Laden was George Bush Jr's first business partner in Arbusto Oil in Texas, his other brother Shafig Bin Laden was dining with Sir George Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire and Carlyle Group (owner of Serenity) on 9/11/2001 in Washinton DC, CNN, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001 http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial/ Tony Snow: "I want to be clear because I've heard you say this, and I've heard the President say it, but I want you to say it for my listeners, which is that the White House has never argued that Saddam was directly involved in September 11th, correct?" Dick Cheney: "That's correct. We had one report early on from another intelligence service that suggested that the lead hijacker, Mohamed Atta, had met with Iraqi intelligence officials in Prague, Czechoslovakia. And that reporting waxed and waned where the degree of confidence in it, and so forth, has been pretty well knocked down now at this stage, that that meeting ever took place. So we've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming." —WhiteHouse.gov, The Tony Snow Show, "Interview of the Vice President by Tony Snow", March 29, 2006 (Snow was promoted to White House Press Secretary, then in May, all televised news conferences were cancelled or the remained of Bush Jr's presidency, as punishment for Steven Colbert's especially vicious roasting of Bush Jr at White House Correspondents Dinner) http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/03/20060329-2.html VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta testifies on Dick Cheney's STAND DOWN order: Mineta responds to an opening question by Commissioner Hamilton about the events in the PEOC and an alleged "shoot down" order. He describes a conversation between Cheney and a young man: Mineta: "During the time that the airplane was coming into the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President...the plane is 50 miles out...the plane is 30 miles out....and when it got down to the plane is 10 miles out, the young man also said to the vice president "do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said "Of course the orders still stand, have you heard anything to the contrary!??" Mineta explains that while he had not known it at the time, he had surmised that the standing order the young man asked about must have been a shoot down order. Hamilton, looking a bit confused, seeks clarification about which flight the conversation was regarding, and Mineta once again clarifies that it is the flight that hit the Pentagon at 9:37 a.m. on September 11. www.911truthmovement.org/video/hamilton_win.wmv www.911truthmovement.org/video/hamilton_real.rm www.911truthmovement.org/video/hamilton_qt.mov
Quote:"It's easy to imagine an infinite number of situations where the government might legitimately give out false information. It's an unfortunate reality that the issuance of incomplete information and even misinformation by government may sometimes be perceived as necessary to protect vital interests." —US Solicitor-General Theodore "Ted" Olson, in Jennifer K. Harbury vs. United States (US Govt confessed that CIA tortures US citizens to death and perps narcoterrorism), at the US Supreme Court, on 17 March 2002 (his estranged 3rd wife Barabara Olson, attoney at law and CNN talkinghead disappeared on September 11, 2001, allegedly on American Airlines Flight 77 that never hit the Pentagon) http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?navby=search&court=US&case=/us/000/01%2D394.html VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Operation Northwoods - James Banford from ABC News reported on Pentagon's Operation Northwoods plot to perp domestic terrorism in USA to blame a foreign nation and "justify" invasion, declassified in 2000 http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/7209.php http://BodyOfSecrets.com "Towers that fell 'like a controlled demolition'. Planes that vanished then mysteriously reappeared, and crucial evidence that has been lost for ever. In the Pentagon, a top secret team drew up a plan to simultaneously send up two airliners painted and numbered exactly the same, one from a civil airport in America, the other from a secret military airbase nearby. The one from the airport would have military personnel on board who had checked in as ordinary passengers under false names. The one from the airbase would be an empty drone, a remote-controlled unmanned aircraft. Somewhere along their joint flight paths, the passenger-carrying plane would drop below radar height, and disappear, landing back at the airbase and unloading its occupants in secret. Meanwhile, the drone would have taken up the other plane's designated course. High over the island of Cuba, it would be exploded in mid-air after broadcasting an international distress call that it was under attack from enemy fighters. The world would be told that a plane load of blameless American holidaymakers had been deliberately shot down by Fidel Castro's Communists - and that the US had no choice but to declare war and topple his regime. This Top Secret 'agent provocateur' plan - code named Operation Northwoods and revealed in official archives - dates from 1962 when the Cold War was at its height and was declassified in 2000." -Tony Rennell, London Daily Mail, "9/11 ON TRIAL -Towers that fell 'like a controlled demolition'. Planes that vanished then mysteriously reappeared, And crucial evidence that has been lost for ever. A new book raises bizarre yet deeply unsettling questions about the world's worst terror atrocity…" August 6, 2005 http://www.financialoutrage.org.uk/911_mainstream_media.htm "Operation NORTHWOODS may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government. Operation Northwoods had called for nothing less than the launch of a secret campaign of terrorism within the United States in order to blame Castro and provoke a war with Cuba." —James Bamford, ABC News, "Friendly Fire - U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba," May 1, 2001 http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1 http://bodyofsecrets.com "In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba. Code named Operation NORTHWOODS, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities. The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro. America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation." The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years. The Joint Chiefs at the time were headed by Eisenhower appointee Army Gen. Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who, with the signed plans in hand made a pitch to McNamara on March 13, 1962, recommending Operation Northwoods be run by the military. Whether the Joint Chiefs' plans were rejected by McNamara in the meeting is not clear. But three days later, President Kennedy told Lemnitzer directly there was virtually no possibility of ever using overt force to take Cuba, Bamford reports. Within months, Lemnitzer would be denied another term as chairman and transferred to another job. Ironically, the documents came to light, says Bamford, in part because of the 1992 Oliver Stone film JFK, which examined the possibility of a conspiracy behind the assassination of President Kennedy. "The scary thing is none of this stuff comes out until 40 years after," says Bamford." —David Ruppe, ABC News, "Friendly Fire - U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba," May 1, 2001 http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1 "We could blow up a drone (unmannded) vessel anywhere in the Cuban waters. The presense of Cuban planes or ships merely investigating the intent of the vessel could be fairly compelling evidence that the ship was taken under attack. The US could follow with an air/sea rescue operation covered by US fighters to "evacuate" remaining members of the non-existant crew. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation. We could develop a Communist Cuba terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Flordia cities and even in Washington. The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States. Use of MIG-type aircraft by US pilots could provide additional provocation. Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping, and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type palnes would be useful. An F-86 properly painted would convince air passengers that they saw a Cuban MIG, especially if the pilot of the transport were to announce that fact. Hijacking attampts against US civil air and surface craft should be encouraged. It is possible to create an incident which would demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civilian airliner from the United States. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be subsituted for the actual civil aircraft and the passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rondevous. From the rondevous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly to an auxiliary airfield at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. Meanwhile the drone aircraft will continue to fly the filed flight plan. The drone will be transmitting on the international distress frequency "MAY DAY" message stating it is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by the destruction of aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow IACO radio stations to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident. It is possible to create an incident that will make it appear that Communist Cuban MIGs have destroyed a USAF aircraft over international waters in an unprovoked attack. On one such flight, a pre-briefed pilot would fly Tail-end Charlie. While near the Cuban island this pilot would broadcast that he had been jumped by MIGs and was going down. This pilot would then fly at extremely low altitude and land at a secure base, an Eglin auxiliary. The aircraft would be met by the proper people, quickly stored and given a new tail number. The pilot who performed the mission under an alias would resume his proper identity. The pilot and aircraft would then have disappeared. A submarine or small craft would distribute F-101 parts, parachute, etc. The pilots retuning to Homestead would have a true story as far as they knew. Search ships and aircraft could be dispatched and parts f aircraft found." —Jewish Zionist General L.L. Lemnitzer, chairman Joint Chiefs of taff at Pentagon Memo to Secretary of War Robert McNamara Subject: Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba March 13, 1962 (declassifed 2000) http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Fox TV's Lone Gunmen pilot episode - Broadcast in March 2001, re Pentagon and CIA hijacking a US airliner by remote control and crash it into the Rockefeller's World Trade Center, declassified in 2000 http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/6758.php "I don't trust government. And neither should our citizens." —US Senator Larry Craig (R), United States Senate, Committee on the udiciary, "DOJ Oversight: Terrorism and Other Topics", testimony by US Attorney General John Ashcroft re President George Bush Jr.'s illegal Executive Orders to "legalize torture" of US citizens and refusal to release that memo (felony Contempt of Congress), C-SPAN2, June 8, 2004 "If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be." —President Thomas Jefferson "A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator. I don't know where Usama is, and I don't care. The Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper!" -George Bush Jr VIDEO DOWNLOAD: Bush Sued by RICO Act - 9/11 victims sue Bush Gang under RICO Act for perping domestic terrorism and mass murder on 9/11/2001. Stanley Hilton (R) vs traitorous media whores Shaun Hannity and Alan Colmes for Jewish Australian porno king pimp daddy Sir Rupert Murdock Knight of the British Empire, owner of Faux News. http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/7209.php "We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries." -David Rockefeller (multi trillionaire), Trilateral Commission, June, 1991 "For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidentsÉto attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." -David Rockefeller, in his autobiography "Memoirs", page 405 "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." -David Rockefeller, founder of the World Trade Center
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 6:02 AM
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 8:30 AM
CITIZEN
Quote:Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion: I suppose you will tell us that the passengers on the "alleged" plane are alive and well and living under the witness protection agency. Or are they just figments of the mourning family members imagination?
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 8:32 AM
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 8:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion: I am happy to say that I have seen very few of his rants
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:04 AM
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:16 AM
Quote:Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion: You mean British-Nazi-Commie-Jews AREN'T responsible for everything? And how is one a Nazi AND a Jew? Things that make you go hmmmmm.
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:21 AM
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 1:29 PM
Quote: How Flight 77 Hitting The Pentagon Would Really Look? PrisonPlanet.com UK May 17, 2006 Is this what Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon would really look like from nearby security cameras instead of the nondescript blur footage we have been subject to? This is obviously a crude collection of doctored frames but if the government had released something similar yesterday would you have believed it? Many would. Wary therefore we are of the potential for the government to eventually release clear footage of the impact from the 84 other cameras that were dotted around the Pentagon and would have easily documented the event to debunk 9/11 skeptics. The government claims all 84 cameras either didn't capture the impact or that tape in the cameras was mysteriously empty and yet returned as normal to film the cleanup operations. Judicial Watch has said it will continue to pursue footage from the other 84 cameras. If the government is telling the truth in saying that the tapes show nothing of interest then what are they trying to hide by not releasing them? www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/170506reallylook.htm RELATED: Charlie Sheen's Pentagon Questions Remain Unanswered www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/170506pentagonquestions.htm www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=19100 FBI Withholding 84 More Tapes of Pentagon on 9/11 Magically Only 1 shows impact so why not release the rest? Steve Watson Infowars.com UK May 17, 2006 The FBI is withholding at least another 84 surveillance tapes that were seized in the immediate aftermath of the attack on the Pentagon. There is an ongoing lawsuit to get these tapes released via the Freedom of Information Act. The FBI has admitted in a statement to attorney, Scott Hodes, representative of Mr Scott Bingham who runs the website http://www.flight77.info/, that they have these tapes, that they have already analyzed them and are still keeping them under lock and key. Case 1:05-cv-00475-PLF Document 16 flight77.info/dec1/mcquredec05.jpg A great deal of speculation has surrounded reports that on the morning of september 11th, 2001 the FBI visited two private businesses near the pentagon and confiscated several security camera video tapes. The first is said to be the Cigto gas station with several security cameras aimed in the direction of the pentagon. "Flight 77" flew directly over the gas station at an altitude of roughly 50 feet, less than 3 seconds from impact. Three months after 9/11 The National Geographic and others reported on this, publishing short interviews with the gas station owner, Jose Velasquez. "His gas station, open only to Department of Defense personnel, is the last structure between the Pentagon and the hillside that, hours later, would become a wailing knoll. "By the time I got outside all I could see was a giant cloud of smoke, first white then black, coming from the Pentagon," he said. "It was just a terrible, terrible thing to be so close to." "Velasquez says the gas station's security cameras are close enough to the Pentagon to have recorded the moment of impact. "I've never seen what the pictures looked like," he said. "The FBI was here within minutes and took the film." The second business was initially believed to be the Sheraton National Hotel which overlooks I395 and the Pentagon. Initial reports pointed out that hotel staff had sat watching the video surveillance in horror before the FBI arrived and shut down the scene. However, according to FBI statements in response to the FOIA request from Mr Bingham, The hotel in question was not the Sheraton but was in fact the Doubletree in Arlington, VA. AND this video did not capture the impact of the flight. (Maguire, page 7) According to the same document, the Citgo gas station video DOES NOT show flight 77 impacting the pentagon either. (Maguire, page 6, item 15) If this is the case then why did the FBI confiscate the gas station and hotel security videos within minutes of the crash and why haven't they subsequently released these videos? According to a CNN FOIA request however, the nearby hotel's video DID capture the impact. The following exchange is from a CNN transcript of a report on the 2002 release of the original four frames of Pentagon footage: MCINTYRE (on camera): These pictures are the first to be made public, but they are not the only images of the plane hitting the Pentagon. Sources tell CNN that the FBI on September 11th confiscated a nearby hotel's security camera videotape, which also captured the attack. So far, the Justice Department has refused to release that videotape. Aaron. BROWN: Why? Do we have any idea why they won't release it? MCINTYRE: Well, the claim - we have filed a freedom of information request for it. They claim that it might provide some intelligence to somebody else who might want to do harm to the United States. But officials I talked to here at the Pentagon say they don't see any national security or criminal value to that tape. The FBI tends to hold on to things. But the government may eventually release that tape, and if they do, we'll bring it to you. You can even view live feeds of footage from the Pentagon online right now. The Virginia Department of Transportation (VDOT) CCTV system used to manage the Northern Virginia freeway network had cameras in place that observed the September 11 crash site at the Pentagon. This CCTV system and the VDOT Smart Traffic Center were used as a command center for emergency responders and cleanup and recovery crews following the incident. www.arinc.com/products/rail_control_ctr/cctv_systems.html View VDOT light pole traffic cams at: TrafficLand Find A Camera (See cameras: ON WASHINGTON BLVD @ I-395 and ON WASHINGTON BLVD @ Pentagon/I-395 and ON WASHINGTON BLVD E @ I-395) www.trafficland.com/findacamera/findacamera.php?city=WAS The reason given for the fact that these cameras did not get the impact is because there was no film in them. www.infowars.net/articles/may2006/170506Pentagon_videos.htm
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 3:37 PM
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:21 PM
STDOUBT
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 4:51 PM
THOLO
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:23 PM
Quote:"Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center." -US Secretary of Defense Sir Donald H. Rumsfeld Knight of the British Empire, Parade Magazine, Oct. 12, 2001 Interview with www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2001/t11182001_t1012pm.html "According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions." —Donald Rumsfeld, Secretary of Defense, CBS News, January 2002 "It was like a cruise missile with wings, went right there and slammed into the Pentagon," Mike Walter, an eyewitness, told CNN. "Huge explosion, great ball of fire, smoke started billowing out, and then it was just chaos on the highway as people either tried to move around the traffic and go down either forward or backwards." —CNN.COM, "Up to 800 possibly dead at Pentagon", September 12, 2001 Steve Patterson, 43, said he was watching television reports of the World Trade Center being hit when he saw a silver commuter jet fly past the window of his 14th-floor apartment in Pentagon City. The plane was about 150 yards away, approaching from the west about 20 feet off the ground, Patterson said. He said the plane, which sounded like the high-pitched squeal of a fighter jet, flew over Arlington cemetary so low that he thought it was going to land on I-395. He said it was flying so fast that he couldn't read any writing on the side. The plane, which appeared to hold about eight to 12 people, headed straight for the Pentagon but was flying as if coming in for a landing on a nonexistent runway, Patterson said. Eyewitness described a small jet aircraft seating a maximum of 12 passengers and crew, NOT an airliner, flying "like a fighter jet" at high speed below treetop level. —TV News reports reposted on WhatReallyHappened.com "New" Pentagon video shows little WHITE ROBOT GLOBAL HAWK not a giant silver American Airlines Boeing 757 www.geocities.com/killer_robot_jetplanes www.boeing.com/phantom/ www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil USAF Museum Unpiloted Vehicle Museum Killer Robot Aircraft since World War 1 www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/ind/uvind.htm 2 VIDEO DOWNLOADS - HUNT THE BOEING: http://judicialwatch.org/flight77.shtml 2 VIDEO DOWNLOADS - HUNT THE BOEING: http://pserver.mii.instacontent.net/defense/flight77/fl77-1_11094135.WMV http://pserver.mii.instacontent.net/defense/flight77/fl77-2_11094237.WMV http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/foi "Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." -Hermann Goering, NAZI Luftwaffe chief of ssstaff, sentenced to death at Nuremburg warcrimes trials, convicted of setting the Reichstag arson (committed suicide)
Quote:Originally posted by Tholo: "How many FireFlyDittoHeads does it take to screw in a lightbulb? How many to screw up a nation? How many to screw up an entire planet?" heheh so funny, how many of you tree huggers are selling your cars and walking to work, hahaha well lets do the dittohead math, if half of the country is such a liberal tree hugger,earth first bastard then half of the counrty should be walking. heheeh the same half sould sell thier computers that they are on now posting(computers use up energy that causes ozone KILLING gases, oh and by the way so do tvs, playstations and just about anything electronic)cause there is a nuclear plant somewhere next to ya KILLING the ozone. heeh libs/dems are all the same, "you have a choice." as long as it is their choice. hmm sounds alot like what they are saying about bush. hahaha right bush is hitler. the point is a bunch of wacko terrorist attacked the USA!!! get over it. it was not bush. hell if it was anyone it was clinton for not doing anything about his million and a half warnings about US attacks. hell he let the SOBs attack the USS Cole and didnt to a rutting thing about it. sounds like a cover up to me. but we wont hear crap about that. i wonder if vince foster knows. haha
Quote:INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF THE EAST TENNESSEE TECHNOLOGY PARK Office of Environment, Safety and Health, U.S. Department of Energy (2000) Pollution above toxic levels surrounding Oak Ridge Nuclear Laboratory (ETTP) HTML Report (200 pages - reclassified Top Secret by US Dept of Homeland Security) http://tis.eh.doe.gov/oversight/reports/gdps/0010ettp/index.html PDF Report (200 pages - reclassified Top Secret by US Dept of Homeland Security) http://tis.eh.doe.gov/oversight/reports/gdps/0010ettp/0010ettp.html Verbatum from the declassified portion of the Report: "Conservative estimates indicated that 35,000 pounds of uranium were released into the air from all sources. 4,300 pounds of uranium a month was unaccounted for or released to the environment. ETTP operates an incinerator which handles radioactive, hazardous and uranium-contaminated PCB wastes. ETTP generated transuranic elements (isotopes with atomic numbers greater than uranium) such as neptunium-237 and plutonium-239; fission products such as techneitum-99; PCBs; toxic metals; and volatile organic compunds such as trichloroethene (TCE) and present risk to the public. Some contaminants migrated outside the Plant boundary. Waste disposal practices included direct discharge of radioactive materials, toxics and caustics to holding ponds and storm drains, and incineration and burial. Reports reflected a number of spills of nitric and hydrochloric acids, in one case 200 gallons. Numerous large fires and explosions were reported. It is impossible to characterize exposure because of inadequate surveys and incomplete records. Records indicate that as contamination levels increased, exposure controls were reduced. Contamination above limits was commonly detected. Operations have released a variety of contaminants into the environment, such as burial of low-level and hazardous waste in landfills and dumping directly into the Clinch River. Large amounts of contaminated equipment and scrap material were sold at public auction. Tens of thousands of pounds of flourine and hydrogen flouride were emitted annually. The investigation team identified over 600 releases of uranium hexaflouride, and a large, visible cloud was released outside a building. Exposure to 'intense clouds' of uranium powder dusts was prevalent and resulted in intense beta radiation fields. Each month dozens or workers were identified as having exposures exceeding plant control guides. Extensive contamination was prevalent. Recordsindicate many air samples in excess of Plant Allowable Limits. Both chemical and radiological materials have routinely been discharged from the Plant, from both sanitary sewage and storm water systems and materials were directly discharged in Mitchell Branch and Poplar Creek. One million pounds of blowdown water was discharged a day. The hexavalent chromium concentration in Poplar Creek is equal to the level regulated by the site's permit. Contents of 500 uranium hexafloride and other gas cylinders were emptied into the unlined holding pond by shooting the cylinders with high-powered rifles, and this pond discharged into Poplar Creek. Records confirm that radiation exceeded drinking water standards. Over 80,000 drums of pond sludge with low concentrations of uranium were generated in 1988. Ventilation was modified to discharge mercury fumes above the roof. Elevated levels of mercury were found in urinalyses. Records refer to the recovery of tons of mercury. Traps would blow out spilling mercury on the floor. Air sampling in the 1990s identified mercury levels several times the Threshold Limit Value. Continual and volumnous process leaks (blowoffs) were vented to the atmosphere. 4,300 pounds of uranium hexaflouride were released per month. Losses were excessive. 10,000 union grievances were filed and management disputed grievances concerning safety in favor of economic considerations. Many storm drains were not moitored before 1992, and routine and accidental wastes have adversely impacted the environment and the aquatic habitat. Weaknesses in the sampling and monitoring of air pollutant emissions raise concerns regarding the accuracy of public dose and exposure calculations. Environmental radiological protection and surveillance are not compliant with DOE Order. Few records reflect involvement by the Atomic Energy Commission in investigations of serious events. Levels of airborne radioactivity were as high as 35,800 dpm/ft3, and far exceeded the PAL of 2 dpm/ft3. [That's radiation levels over 17,000 times the maximum limit.] Airborne radioactivity far in excess of normal background levels was measured off-site as far as five miles away. A number of criticality and sub-criticality accident experiments were performed and posed a severe radiation hazard. Bladder cancer rates were seven times higher than for the general population, and stomach ulcers were 6.5 times greater. Inhalation of airborn radiation can increase the risk of future cancer." (verbatum from the Report) NOTE: This report only covered the K-25 plant, not the DOE National Nuclear Security Administration's Y-12 nuclear bombs factory, not the thousands of contaminated lab rats from ORNL's Y-12 nuclear bombs factory Mouse House that are incinerated at the University of Tennessee Medical Center in downtown Knoxville, and did not cover Top Secret "criticality" pollution, "referred to as 'special hazards'" (ie, "small" explosions due to accidental nuclear reactions), and "are discussed in a separate classifed document." The GOPS government of Tennessee previously gave ETTP/ORNL a clean bill of health in 1999. Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments (ACHRE) http://gwis.circ.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/radiation/ ACHRE was created by President Clinton on January 15, 1994 to investigate and report on the use of human beings as subjects of federally funded research using ionizing radiation. 11. Intentional Releases: Lifting the Veil of Secrecy http://tis.eh.doe.gov/ohre/roadmap/achre/chap11.html
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:46 PM
Quote:Ozone is oxygen in UV sunlight. The "ozone hole" is only in Antarctica during its 3 months of total darkness. That's NORMAL. NWO uses this hammer to herd the sheeple.
Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:56 PM
Quote:STDOUBT Anyone with broadband and 1-1/2hrs to kill should watch this: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848 It's really scary to believe that the US has been taken over by a greedy cabal of self-serving traitors, but to think it's impossible is just stupidity. I don't know WTF to think, all I know is I'm 38, and this ain't the country I grew up in.
Quote:British Member of Parliament, Michael Meacher, is having the 9/11 movie, “Loose Change” shown to Parliament in Britain on June 14 This, obviously, is a major coup for the 9/11 Truth Movement. It’s hoped that by doing so, we can get the mainstream media to engage on the subject. Here’s the announcement that appeared today in UKTV: MPs to watch cult 9/11 documentary Dominic Schreiber 8:00am A controversial US documentary that casts doubt over the cause of the collapse of the World Trade Center during 9/11 is to be shown to MPs next month. Made by Americans Korey Rowe and Dylan Avery on a laptop for less than $10,000, Loose Change claims the Twin Towers were brought down in a controlled explosion. The 90-minute film has gained a cult following and according to Labour MP Michael Meacher - who has arranged the screening on 14 June at the Houses of Parliament - the evidence assembled proves there are major discrepancies in the official accounts of what happened, including the findings of the 9/11 Commission. "It is an issue that clearly the media and many members of the public shy away from," he said. "I think 9/11 is so important that as many people as possible should see this film. That’s what I hope to achieve. It really deserves to get the fullest exposure." To contact Broadcast with a news story please call 020 7505 8040 or send an email to broadcastnews@emap.com www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060509&articleId=2417
Quote: Abbie Bernstein: Do you believe a government can be shamed into or out of what it's doing by the actions of individuals? Joss Whedon: The idea was to say that people can make a difference, they can show the wrongs that are being done. They can speak out against them and make people aware of them. They can even create giant scandals. Sometimes they can topple governments. The point is that the truth is always more important than the power structure, and whether you make a dent or not, the fact that you succeeded in trying is a victory. -Serenity - The Official Visual Companion
Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:25 AM
Quote:Originally posted Pirate2ndGrader: I bet my IQ and educational level is double yours.
Quote:And my literacy level must be 1,000 times yours.
Quote:My common sense must be 1,000,000 times higher than yours.
Quote:My survival sense must be 1,000,000,000 times higher than yours.
Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:59 AM
Thursday, May 18, 2006 1:03 AM
Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:30 AM
Quote: "New" Pentagon video shows little WHITE ROBOT GLOBAL HAWK not a giant silver American Airlines Boeing 757 www.geocities.com/killer_robot_jetplanes www.boeing.com/phantom/ www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil USAF Museum Unpiloted Vehicle Museum Killer Robot Aircraft since World War 1 www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/ind/uvind.htm Eric Hufschmid: What if they show a video of Flight 77 crashing into the Pentagon? This is going to disrupt us. That's like saying, you shouldn't talk about the Kennedy assassination because they might bring forward a video that shows Oswald shooting Kennedy. I mean, what are we supposed to do, be silent, because they MIGHT do something like that? This is rediculous! It's almost just another way to get people to be quiet. Like trying to fool people into saying nothing, on the grounds that maybe we'll make fools of ourselves. John Stadtmiller: That was my initial response to that, when I heard people talking about, "they may be setting a trap for us." I could see a lot of people out there taking that hesitant pause, stepping back just a little bit. And that's not what should be done right now. This should be going full-bore right down their throats! Eric Hufschmid: Yeah. This is a sign that they're desperate. They're very worried. You know, when you're doing good you don't back off! You go forward! This is the time to go at em. This is a sign they're getting weak. They're hurt. You don't back off, you charge forward faster, now. we got em! National Intel Report, www.RBNlive.com Radio Network, 17 May 2006 http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Stadt/0605/20060517_Wed_Stadtmiller.m3u www.total411.info/2006/05/new-pentagon-video-shows-no-boeing.html This is what the videos SHOULD have looked like
Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:48 AM
Quote:PirateNews was caught with a 'harem' of fifteen stallions today. He said: "I enjoy being both the catcher and the pitcher. I have nothing else to do with my life since I'm too lazy to work so I make bogus invalidity claims." It has also been found that PirateNews used to be George Bush's elicit homosexual lover, in fact much of his hatred of George Bush and Tony Blair comes from his belief that George dumped him for Tony. As he was taken away PirateNews protested: "I like the Vans WITHOUT the windows!" PirateNews is known to have Bipolar Depression and sever paranoid schitzophrenia. He is on medication but it is believed he doesn't have the intelligents to know how to take the pills, explaining his recent relapse. www.piratenewsisabiggaybear.com
Friday, May 19, 2006 5:29 PM
Quote: "New" Pentagon video shows WHITE FLASH from explosive bomb NOT YELLOW FLASH burning jet fuel Robot cruise missile bomb is WHITE not yellow www.ausairpower.net/TE-Cruise-Missiles-1985.html
Saturday, May 20, 2006 2:35 AM
Saturday, May 20, 2006 5:14 PM
RKLENSETH
Saturday, May 20, 2006 8:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SonofMan: Piratenews, i noticed you referenced a lot of links i tend to check out. you gotta love coast to coast
Quote: "New" Pentagon video shows little WHITE ROBOT GLOBAL HAWK not a giant silver American Airlines Boeing 757 USAF Museum Unpiloted Vehicle Museum Killer Robot Aircraft since World War 1 www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/ind/uvind.htm www.geocities.com/killer_robot_jetplanes www.boeing.com/phantom/ Impossible to Prove a Falsehood True: Aircraft Parts as a Clue to their Identity by George Nelson Colonel, USAF (ret.) The precautionary principle is based on the fact it is impossible to prove a false claim. Failure to prove a claim does not automatically make it false, but caution is called for, especially in the case of a world-changing event like the alleged terror attacks of September 11, 2001. The Bush administration has provided no public evidence to support its claim that the terror attacks were the work of Muslim extremists or even that the aircraft that struck their respective targets on September 11 were as advertised. As I will show below, it would be a simple matter to confirm that they were - if they were. Until such proof is forthcoming, the opposite claim must be kept in mind as a precaution against rushing to judgment: the 911 hijackings were part of a black operation carried out with the cooperation of elements in our government. In July 1965 I had just been commissioned as a Second Lieutenant in the U. S. Air Force after taking a solemn oath that I would protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic, and that I would bear true faith and allegiance to the same. I took that oath very seriously. It was my constant companion throughout a thirty-year military career in the field of aircraft maintenance. As an additional duty, aircraft maintenance officers are occasionally tasked as members of aircraft accident investigation boards and my personal experience was no exception. In 1989 I graduated from the Aircraft Mishap Investigation Course at the Institute of Safety and Systems Management at the University of Southern California. In addition to my direct participation as an aircraft accident investigator, I reviewed countless aircraft accident investigation reports for thoroughness and comprehensive conclusions for the Inspector General, HQ Pacific Air Forces during the height of the Vietnam conflict. In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. This is because every military and civilian passenger-carrying aircraft have many parts that are identified for safety of flight. That is, if any of the parts were to fail at any time during a flight, the failure would likely result in the catastrophic loss of aircraft and passengers. Consequently, these parts are individually controlled by a distinctive serial number and tracked by a records section of the maintenance operation and by another section called plans and scheduling. Following a certain number of flying hours or, in the case of landing gears, a certain number of takeoff-and-landing cycles, these critical parts are required to be changed, overhauled or inspected by specialist mechanics. When these parts are installed, their serial numbers are married to the aircraft registration numbers in the aircraft records and the plans and scheduling section will notify maintenance specialists when the parts must be replaced. If the parts are not replaced within specified time or cycle limits, the airplane will normally be grounded until the maintenance action is completed. Most of these time-change parts, whether hydraulic flight surface actuators , pumps, landing gears, engines or engine components, are virtually indestructible. It would be impossible for an ordinary fire resulting from an airplane crash to destroy or obliterate all of those critical time-change parts or their serial numbers. I repeat, impossible. Considering the catastrophic incidents of September 11 2001, certain troubling but irrefutable conclusions must be drawn from the known facts. I get no personal pleasure or satisfaction from reporting my own assessment of these facts. United Airlines Flight 93 This flight was reported by the federal government to be a Boeing 757 aircraft, registration number N591UA, carrying 45 persons, including four Arab hijackers who had taken control of the aircraft, crashing the plane in a Pennsylvania farm field. Aerial photos of the alleged crash site were made available to the general public. They show a significant hole in the ground, but private investigators were not allowed to come anywhere near the crash site. If an aircraft crash caused the hole in the ground, there would have literally hundreds of serially-controlled time-change parts within the hole that would have proved beyond any shadow of doubt the precise tail-number or identity of the aircraft. However, the government has not produced any hard evidence that would prove beyond a doubt that the specifically alleged aircraft crashed at that site. On the contrary, it has been reported that the aircraft, registry number N591UA, is still in operation. American Airlines Flight 11 This flight was reported by the government to be a Boeing 767, registration number N334AA, carrying 92 people, including five Arabs who had hijacked the plane. This plane was reported to have crashed into the north tower of the WTC complex of buildings. Again, the government would have no trouble proving its case if only a few of the hundreds of serially controlled parts had been collected to positively identify the aircraft. A Boeing 767 landing gear or just one engine would have been easy to find and identify. United Airlines Flight 175 This flight was reported to be a Boeing 767, registration number N612UA, carrying 65 people, including the crew and five hijackers. It reportedly flew into the south tower of the WTC. Once more, the government has yet to produce one serially controlled part from the crash site that would have dispelled any questions as to the identity of the specific airplane. American Airlines Flight 77 This was reported to be a Boeing 757, registration number N644AA, carrying 64 people, including the flight crew and five hijackers. This aircraft, with a 125-foot wingspan, was reported to have crashed into the Pentagon, leaving an entry hole no more than 65 feet wide. Following cool-down of the resulting fire, this crash site would have been very easy to collect enough time-change equipment within 15 minutes to positively identify the aircraft registry. There was apparently some aerospace type of equipment found at the site but no attempt was made to produce serial numbers or to identify the specific parts found. Some of the equipment removed from the building was actually hidden from public view. Conclusion The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. The hard evidence would have included hundreds of critical time-change aircraft items, plus security videotapes that were confiscated by the FBI immediately following each tragic episode. With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. Regarding the planes that allegedly flew into the WTC towers, it is only just possible that heavy aircraft were involved in each incident, but no evidence has been produced that would add credence to the government's theoretical version of what actually caused the total destruction of the buildings, let alone proving the identity of the aircraft. That is the problem with the government's 911 story. It is time to apply the precautionary principle. As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country's history. Footnote: It will soon be five years since the tragic events of 9/11/01 unfolded, and still the general public has seen no physical evidence that should have been collected at each of the four crash sites, (a routine requirement during mandatory investigations of each and every major aircraft crash.) The National Transportation Safety Board has announced on its website that responsibility for the investigations and reports have been assigned to the Federal Bureau of Investigation, but there is no indication that mandatory investigations were ever conducted or that the reports of any investigations have been written. www.physics911.net/georgenelson.htm
Saturday, May 20, 2006 9:07 PM
OLDENGLANDDRY
Saturday, May 20, 2006 11:38 PM
Quote:Originally posted by oldenglanddry: Blahdy-Blahdy- Yawn. Blahdy-Blahdy-Yawn.
Quote: MI6 Are The Lords Of The Global Drug Trade Commentary By James Casbolt Former MI6 Agent c. 2006 James Casbolt 5-20-6 It may be a revelation to many people that the global drug trade is controlled and run by the intelligence agencies. In this global drug trade British intelligence reigns supreme. As intelligence insiders know MI5 and MI6 control many of the other intelligence agencies in the world (CIA, MOSSAD etc) in a vast web of intrigue and corruption that has its global power base in the city of London, the square mile. My name is James Casbolt and I worked for MI6 in 'black ops' cocaine trafficking with the IRA and MOSSAD in London and Brighton between 1995 and 1999. My father Peter Casbolt was also MI6 and worked with the CIA and mafia in Rome, trafficking cocaine into Britain. My experience was that the distinctions of all these groups became blurred until in the end we were all one international group working together for the same goals. We were puppets who had our strings pulled by global puppet masters based in the city of London. Most levels of the intelligence agencies are not loyal to the people of the country they are based in and see themselves as 'super national'. It had been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the CIA has been bringing in most of the drugs into America for the last fifty years (see ex LAPD officer Michael Rupert's 'From the wilderness' website for proof). The CIA operates under orders from British intelligence and was created by British intelligence in 1947. The CIA today is still loyal to the international bankers based in the city of London and the global elite aristocratic families like the Rothchilds and the Windsor's. Since it was first started, MI6 has always brought drugs into Britain. They do not bring 'some' of the drugs into Britain but I would estimate MI6 bring in around ninety percent of the drugs in. They do this by pulling the strings of many organised crime and terrorist groups and these groups like the IRA are full of MI6 agents. MI6 bring in heroin from the middle east, cocaine from south America and cannabis from morocco as well as other places. British intelligence also designed and created the drug LSD in the 1950's through places like the Tavistock Institute in London. By the 1960's MI5, MI6 and the CIA were using LSD as a weapon against the angry protestors of the sixties and turned them into 'flower children' who were too tripped out to organise a revolution. Dr Timothy Leary the LSD guru of the sixties was a CIA puppet. Funds and drugs for Leary's research came from the CIA and Leary says that Cord Meyer, the CIA agent in charge of funding the sixties LSD counter culture has"helped me to understand my political cultural role more clearly". In 1998, I was sent 3000 LSD doses on blotting paper by MI5 with pictures of the European union flag on them. The MI5 man who sent them told my father this was a government 'signature' and this LSD was called 'Europa'. This global drugs trade controlled by British intelligence is worth at least £500 billion a year. This is more than the global oil trade and the economy in Britain and America is totally dependent on this drug money. Mafia crime boss John Gotti exposed the situation when asked in court if he was involved in drug trafficking. He replied"No we can't compete with the government". I believe this was only a half truth because the mafia and the CIA are the same group at the upper levels. In Britain, the MI6 drug money is laundered through the Bank of England, Barclays Bank and other household name companies. The drug money is passed from account to account until its origins are lost in a huge web of transactions. The drug money comes out 'cleaner' but not totally clean. Diamonds are then bought with this money from the corrupt diamond business families like the Oppenheimers. These diamonds are then sold and the drug money is clean. MI6 and the CIA are also responsible for the crack cocaine epidemic in Britain and America. In 1978, MI6 and the CIA were in south America researching the effects of the natives smoking 'basuco' cocaine paste. This has the same effect as crack cocaine. They saw that the strength and addiction potential was far greater than ordinary cocaine and created crack cocaine from the basuco formula. MI6 and the CIA then flooded Britain and America with crack. Two years later, in 1980, Britain and America were starting to see the first signs of the crack cocaine epidemic on the streets. On august 23, 1987, in a rural community south of Little Rock in America, two teenage boys named Kevin Ives and Don Henry were murdered and dismembered after witnessing a CIA cocaine drop that was part of a CIA drug trafficking operation based at a small airport in Mena, Arkansas. Bill Clinton was the governor of Arkansas at the time. Bill Clinton was involved with the CIA at this time and $100 million worth of cocaine was coming through the Mena, Arkansas airport each month. For proof see the books 'Compromise' and 'Dope Inc'. On my father's international MI6 drug runs, whatever fell off the back of the lorry so to speak he would keep and we would sell it in Britain. As long as my father was meeting the speedboats from Morocco in the Costa del Sol and then moving the lorry loads of cannabis through their MI6, IRA lorry business into Britain every month, British intelligence were happy. As long as my father was moving shipments of cocaine out of Rome every month, MI5 and MI6 were happy. If my father kept a bit to sell himself no one cared because there was enough drugs and money to go round in this £500 billion a year global drugs trade. The ones who were really paying were the people addicted. Who were paying with suffering. But karma always catches up and both myself and my father became addicted to heroin in later years and my father died addicted, and poor in prison under very strange circumstances. Today, I am clean and drug-free and wish to help stop the untold suffering this global drugs trade causes. The intelligence agencies have always used addictive drugs as a weapon against the masses to bring in their long term plan for a one world government, a one world police force designed to be NATO and a micro chipped population known as the New World Order. As the population is in a drug or alcohol-induced trance watching 'Coronation Street', the new world order is being crept in behind them. To properly expose this global intelligence run drugs trade we need to expose the key players in this area 1- Tibor Rosenbaum, a MOSSAD agent and head of the Geneva based Banque du Credit international. This bank was the forerunner to the notorious Bank of Credit and Commerce international (BCCI) which is a major intelligence drug money laundering bank. 'Life' magazine exposed Rosenbaum's bank as a money launderer for the Meyer Lanksky American organised crime family and Tibor Rosenbaum funded and supported 'Permindex' the MI6 assassination unit which was at the heart of the John F. Kennedy assassination. 2- Robert Vesco, sponsored by the Swiss branch of the Rothchilds and part of the American connection to the Medellin drug cartel in Columbia. 3- Sir Francis de Guingand, former head of British intelligence, now living in south Africa (and every head of MI5 and MI6 has been involved in the drug world before and after him). 4- Henry Keswick, chairman of Jardine Matheson which is one of the biggest drug trafficking operations in the world. His brother John Keswick is chairman of the bank of England. 5- Sir Martin Wakefield Jacomb, Bank of England director from 1987 to 1995, Barclays Bank Deputy Chairman in 1985, Telegraph newspapers director in 1986 ( This is the reason why this can of worms doesn't get out in the mainstream media. The people who are perpetrating these crimes control most of the mainstream media. In America former director of the CIA William Casey is head of the council of the media network ABC. Many insiders refer to ABC as 'The CIA network.) 6- George Bush, Snr, former President and former head of the CIA and America's leading drug baron who has fronted more wars on drugs than any other president. Which in reality is just a method to eliminate competition. A whole book could be written on George Bush's involvement in the global drug trade but it is well-covered in the book 'Dark Alliance' by investigative journalist Gary Webb. Gary Webb was found dead with two gunshot wounds to the back of his head with a revolver. The case was declared a 'suicide'. You figure that out. Gary Webb as well as myself and other investigators, found that much of this 'black ops' drug money is being used to fund projects classified above top secret. These projects include the building and maintaining of deep level underground bases in Dulce in New Mexico, Pine gap in Australia, Snowy mountains in Australia, The Nyala range in Africa, west of Kindu in Africa, next to the Libyan border in Egypt, Mount Blanc in Switzerland, Narvik in Scandinavia, Gottland island in Sweden and many other places around the world (more about these underground bases in my next issue). The information on this global drugs trade run by the intelligence agencies desperately needs to get out on a large scale. Any information, comments or feedback to help me with my work would be greatly welcomed. James Casbolt- St Ives, Cornwall-19/5/06 E-mail-jamescasbolt@hotmail.co.uk http://rense.com/general71/mi6.htm See also: CIA Iran-Contra narcoterrorism 35-volume US Senate Report and criminal convictions of Sir Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire White House staff: www.geocities.com/iran_contra_christic_institute
Sunday, May 21, 2006 12:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by PirateNews: This is why USA must nuke UK ASAP, to kill all the genocidal maniacs and save the planet from the NWO Alliance. And save the planet from mind control via narco warfare, just like when Col Paul Revere led the Boston Opium Party, aka the Boston Tea Party, during the US Revolutionary Civil War with England's British Empire.
Sunday, May 21, 2006 10:53 AM
Quote:Originally posted by piratenews: Quote:Originally posted by oldenglanddry: Blahdy-Blahdy- Yawn. Blahdy-Blahdy-Yawn. This is why USA must nuke UK ASAP, to kill all the genocidal maniacs and save the planet from the NWO Alliance. And save the planet from mind control via narco warfare, just like when Col Paul Revere led the Boston Opium Party, aka the Boston Tea Party, during the US Revolutionary Civil War with England's British Empire. Quote: MI6 Are The Lords Of The Global Drug Trade Commentary By James Casbolt Former MI6 Agent c. 2006 James Casbolt 5-20-6 It may be a revelation to many people that the global drug trade is controlled and run by the intelligence agencies. In this global drug trade British intelligence reigns supreme. As intelligence insiders know MI5 and MI6 control many of the other intelligence agencies in the world (CIA, MOSSAD etc) in a vast web of intrigue and corruption that has its global power base in the city of London, the square mile. My name is James Casbolt and I worked for MI6 in 'black ops' cocaine trafficking with the IRA and MOSSAD in London and Brighton between 1995 and 1999. My father Peter Casbolt was also MI6 and worked with the CIA and mafia in Rome, trafficking cocaine into Britain. My experience was that the distinctions of all these groups became blurred until in the end we were all one international group working together for the same goals. We were puppets who had our strings pulled by global puppet masters based in the city of London. Most levels of the intelligence agencies are not loyal to the people of the country they are based in and see themselves as 'super national'. It had been proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that the CIA has been bringing in most of the drugs into America for the last fifty years (see ex LAPD officer Michael Rupert's 'From the wilderness' website for proof). The CIA operates under orders from British intelligence and was created by British intelligence in 1947. The CIA today is still loyal to the international bankers based in the city of London and the global elite aristocratic families like the Rothchilds and the Windsor's. Since it was first started, MI6 has always brought drugs into Britain. They do not bring 'some' of the drugs into Britain but I would estimate MI6 bring in around ninety percent of the drugs in. They do this by pulling the strings of many organised crime and terrorist groups and these groups like the IRA are full of MI6 agents. MI6 bring in heroin from the middle east, cocaine from south America and cannabis from morocco as well as other places. British intelligence also designed and created the drug LSD in the 1950's through places like the Tavistock Institute in London. By the 1960's MI5, MI6 and the CIA were using LSD as a weapon against the angry protestors of the sixties and turned them into 'flower children' who were too tripped out to organise a revolution. Dr Timothy Leary the LSD guru of the sixties was a CIA puppet. Funds and drugs for Leary's research came from the CIA and Leary says that Cord Meyer, the CIA agent in charge of funding the sixties LSD counter culture has"helped me to understand my political cultural role more clearly". In 1998, I was sent 3000 LSD doses on blotting paper by MI5 with pictures of the European union flag on them. The MI5 man who sent them told my father this was a government 'signature' and this LSD was called 'Europa'. This global drugs trade controlled by British intelligence is worth at least £500 billion a year. This is more than the global oil trade and the economy in Britain and America is totally dependent on this drug money. Mafia crime boss John Gotti exposed the situation when asked in court if he was involved in drug trafficking. He replied"No we can't compete with the government". I believe this was only a half truth because the mafia and the CIA are the same group at the upper levels. In Britain, the MI6 drug money is laundered through the Bank of England, Barclays Bank and other household name companies. The drug money is passed from account to account until its origins are lost in a huge web of transactions. The drug money comes out 'cleaner' but not totally clean. Diamonds are then bought with this money from the corrupt diamond business families like the Oppenheimers. These diamonds are then sold and the drug money is clean. MI6 and the CIA are also responsible for the crack cocaine epidemic in Britain and America. In 1978, MI6 and the CIA were in south America researching the effects of the natives smoking 'basuco' cocaine paste. This has the same effect as crack cocaine. They saw that the strength and addiction potential was far greater than ordinary cocaine and created crack cocaine from the basuco formula. MI6 and the CIA then flooded Britain and America with crack. Two years later, in 1980, Britain and America were starting to see the first signs of the crack cocaine epidemic on the streets. On august 23, 1987, in a rural community south of Little Rock in America, two teenage boys named Kevin Ives and Don Henry were murdered and dismembered after witnessing a CIA cocaine drop that was part of a CIA drug trafficking operation based at a small airport in Mena, Arkansas. Bill Clinton was the governor of Arkansas at the time. Bill Clinton was involved with the CIA at this time and $100 million worth of cocaine was coming through the Mena, Arkansas airport each month. For proof see the books 'Compromise' and 'Dope Inc'. On my father's international MI6 drug runs, whatever fell off the back of the lorry so to speak he would keep and we would sell it in Britain. As long as my father was meeting the speedboats from Morocco in the Costa del Sol and then moving the lorry loads of cannabis through their MI6, IRA lorry business into Britain every month, British intelligence were happy. As long as my father was moving shipments of cocaine out of Rome every month, MI5 and MI6 were happy. If my father kept a bit to sell himself no one cared because there was enough drugs and money to go round in this £500 billion a year global drugs trade. The ones who were really paying were the people addicted. Who were paying with suffering. But karma always catches up and both myself and my father became addicted to heroin in later years and my father died addicted, and poor in prison under very strange circumstances. Today, I am clean and drug-free and wish to help stop the untold suffering this global drugs trade causes. The intelligence agencies have always used addictive drugs as a weapon against the masses to bring in their long term plan for a one world government, a one world police force designed to be NATO and a micro chipped population known as the New World Order. As the population is in a drug or alcohol-induced trance watching 'Coronation Street', the new world order is being crept in behind them. To properly expose this global intelligence run drugs trade we need to expose the key players in this area 1- Tibor Rosenbaum, a MOSSAD agent and head of the Geneva based Banque du Credit international. This bank was the forerunner to the notorious Bank of Credit and Commerce international (BCCI) which is a major intelligence drug money laundering bank. 'Life' magazine exposed Rosenbaum's bank as a money launderer for the Meyer Lanksky American organised crime family and Tibor Rosenbaum funded and supported 'Permindex' the MI6 assassination unit which was at the heart of the John F. Kennedy assassination. 2- Robert Vesco, sponsored by the Swiss branch of the Rothchilds and part of the American connection to the Medellin drug cartel in Columbia. 3- Sir Francis de Guingand, former head of British intelligence, now living in south Africa (and every head of MI5 and MI6 has been involved in the drug world before and after him). 4- Henry Keswick, chairman of Jardine Matheson which is one of the biggest drug trafficking operations in the world. His brother John Keswick is chairman of the bank of England. 5- Sir Martin Wakefield Jacomb, Bank of England director from 1987 to 1995, Barclays Bank Deputy Chairman in 1985, Telegraph newspapers director in 1986 ( This is the reason why this can of worms doesn't get out in the mainstream media. The people who are perpetrating these crimes control most of the mainstream media. In America former director of the CIA William Casey is head of the council of the media network ABC. Many insiders refer to ABC as 'The CIA network.) 6- George Bush, Snr, former President and former head of the CIA and America's leading drug baron who has fronted more wars on drugs than any other president. Which in reality is just a method to eliminate competition. A whole book could be written on George Bush's involvement in the global drug trade but it is well-covered in the book 'Dark Alliance' by investigative journalist Gary Webb. Gary Webb was found dead with two gunshot wounds to the back of his head with a revolver. The case was declared a 'suicide'. You figure that out. Gary Webb as well as myself and other investigators, found that much of this 'black ops' drug money is being used to fund projects classified above top secret. These projects include the building and maintaining of deep level underground bases in Dulce in New Mexico, Pine gap in Australia, Snowy mountains in Australia, The Nyala range in Africa, west of Kindu in Africa, next to the Libyan border in Egypt, Mount Blanc in Switzerland, Narvik in Scandinavia, Gottland island in Sweden and many other places around the world (more about these underground bases in my next issue). The information on this global drugs trade run by the intelligence agencies desperately needs to get out on a large scale. Any information, comments or feedback to help me with my work would be greatly welcomed. James Casbolt- St Ives, Cornwall-19/5/06 E-mail-jamescasbolt@hotmail.co.uk http://rense.com/general71/mi6.htm See also: CIA Iran-Contra narcoterrorism 35-volume US Senate Report and criminal convictions of Sir Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire White House staff: www.geocities.com/iran_contra_christic_institute NAFTA SHAFTA terminated the US border which terminated USA, for free trade of illegal drugs and sex slavery. NAFTA merged USA with Mexico and Canada which is a member of 53-nation British Commonwealth owned by German Queen Elizabeth Sax Coberg Gotha of England. So CIA works for MI6. Jr Bush promoted a Knight of the British Empire to president of Afghanistan, which produces 90% of the world supply of heroin, with 1,000% increase in heroin production since Bush Gang conquered Afghanistan. That's why so many of Bush Jr's Jewish neoCons have been knighted by the Queen of England: Kissinger, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Greenspan, Colin Powell, which is illegal according to the 13th Amendment to US Constitution. Quote: Abbie Bernstein: Do you believe a government can be shamed into or out of what it's doing by the actions of individuals? Joss Whedon: The idea was to say that people can make a difference, they can show the wrongs that are being done. They can speak out against them and make people aware of them. They can even create giant scandals. Sometimes they can topple governments. The point is that the truth is always more important than the power structure, and whether you make a dent or not, the fact that you succeeded in trying is a victory. -Serenity - The Official Visual Companion FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO V2 Tangerine Dream - Thief Soundtrack: Confrontation http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/8912.php
Monday, May 22, 2006 11:22 AM
MAMASAID
Monday, May 22, 2006 11:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by mamasaid: Also, those Knighthoods are purely honorary (jesus, Elton John has one) and have no bearing on real life
Monday, May 22, 2006 1:06 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SonofMan: Piratenews...i enjoy the links, but lets face it...NO one, who hasnt already accepted these theories, actually will...untill they see it un-covered themselves on the 10 o'clock news.
Monday, May 22, 2006 2:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by LoopyTunes: That's why I like forums, to study the insanity of people who won't face reality, or who pathologically lie about it, or the most intriguing of all - those who actively participate in the crime spree of the NWO Gang, even if it kills them.
Monday, May 22, 2006 4:09 PM
FLETCH2
Quote:Originally posted by mamasaid: hey there PN, the thirteenth amendment to the constitution outlaws slavery. If that has some twisted connection to american nationals becoming knights, than so be it. I think you're thinking of another amendment, something about being part of another government (like when Queen Noor had to give up her citizenship). Also, those Knighthoods are purely honorary (jesus, Elton John has one) and have no bearing on real life
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