Realistically and objectivly: What has the Bush administration done right? by chrisisall

realistically and objectivily... i've got nothing...

of course, if i were the CEO of Fortune 500 company.. or a member of the super-wealthy elite... i would be falling all over myself to make up super swell tales of the great Bush... so in some respects, i guess you could say that Bush & Co have done some good... just not for the average citizens (who by the way, are the same citizens Bush was elected to govern and whom IMHO have gotten nothing but the dirty end of the stick from this administration...)

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 8:14 AM

And there goes Dayve, who correctly pointed out that when you help out Big Business, you improve the economy.

Next up is....

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 8:24 AM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Chrisisall

Am I allowed to giggle at the fact that no one is posting?

My mommy always told me to say nothing if I couldn't say something nice. But she didn't say anything about a giggle!

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 8:32 AM

And there we have FutureMrsFillion, who states she has absolutly nothing bad to say about the current administration!

Two positive contributions in a row!

Next up is....

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 8:50 AM

HKCAVALIER

The greatest good the Bush administration has brought the world, is information. We are all far better informed about the workings of our government today than we were six years ago.

Back then, only some of us knew that Clinton was bombing folks whenever he pleased, just as every administration that was capable of it has done. Back then, only a few of us knew the UN was a bankrupt institution. Back then, we could comfortably deny our government's torture polices, secret detention centers, lying and pocket lining on a global scale. None of the crimes commited by Bush & Co. are really new. It's just that through their bizarre incompitence and stultifying arrogance, it has simply come to light.

The power is in our hands as to what we choose to do with our new knowledge.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 9:01 AM

And there we had HKCavalier testifying that the Bush administration has an open-ness to it, ready to share and divulge information to the truth-starved masses!

Ladies and gentlemen, I can feel the love, can you?

And next we have...

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 9:56 AM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

I just had to respond: "The power is in our hands as to what we choose to do with our new knowledge." All that comes to mind are the three monkeys, one with hands over eyes, one with hands over ears, and one with hands over mouth.

Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 10:02 AM

Thank you, Rue, for that positive comment about President Bush's trained cimians! They are quite a hoot, and proof that this administration cares about the rainforests- home to the friendly animal kingdom!

And for our next comments....

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 11:00 AM

SIMONWHO

He made sure a group of children weren't scared by continuing to read to them, thus saving them from hours or even potentially days of slight tearfulness.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 11:36 AM

Thanks to SimonWho for reminding us all of the administration's dedication to family values; leave no child behind!

That was so touching...

And next we have...

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 11:45 AM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

As always, I see our more left leaning members just cannot seem to follow the "rules of the thread". As a Canadian, I am not as knowledgeable about American politics as other members here, but I am willing to join the discussion. IMHO, Government is reactionary. A problem arises and it is the Government's job to find a solution to the problem and take steps to ensure the problem does not happen anew. So maybe the question should be what has Bush failed to do.

But not meaning to hijack the thread, I will give some examples.

The security of the nation has improved under Bush(reaction to 9/11).
The re-organization of FEMA under Bush (reaction to Katrina).
Begining to address borders and immigration policies (reaction to illegal immigration).

There are more which I am sure will come to light in the firestorm of discussion which will follow this post.

De-lurking to stir stuff up.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 11:52 AM

Thank you BigDamnNobody for pointing out the timely and effective National security measures that Bush set in motion! Yes, the Bush administration's hindsight is acute, and no administration has been more reactionary! Props for you positive analysis!

And next to add their insights is...

Chrisisall

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 11:55 AM

OLDENGLANDDRY

The people of Iraq are now free to exercise their demodratic right to vote. Providing that they are not killed before they reach the polling stations.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:03 PM

Yes Oldenglanddry! Good one! The Bush administration is hard at work for the Democracy cause! Freedom will have the domino effect in the Middle East at last!
Oh, the happy faces in photo-ops!

And for our next contributor.......

Chrisisall

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:05 PM

GREATBLACKTHORN

He's made us realise that the presidential ellection is a total con, that if your Papi's a president, you can be to! That Americans will kill 200,000 of your population if you share the religion of a country that killed 3,600 of them! That if you're poor, noone gives a shit! That a small ex-empirical island with dellusions of grandeur off the coast of Europe gives great head! And that Israelis are well worth killing more worthless Arabs over! That the UN means fuck all when you've got NUKES!! That black people make greeeaaat cannon fodder!

Oh, they've really made us common folk realise the intricate workings of the American government.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:10 PM

RIGHTEOUS9

Actually, Bush's reaction to Katrina was that 'nobody could have seen this coming' and that 'Brownie' was doing a heck of a job. For that matter, 'brownie' and FEMA had made it quite clear to Bush how catastrophic this thing might be, but the Administration took no action. Where was Bush during Katrina again?

It's not apt to say that because something has improved during the Administration, it is because of the administration. The Katrina disaster was sooo bad that the Administration needed a bit of a fall-guy for their own incompitence.

Also, I'd like to know what proof of improvement there actually is. Since you posted, maybe you could direct me to it.

Yeah the border thing...whatever - tell me exactly what that is going to do again?

When he targets a big agricultural giant with fines, or a supersore like Walmart, etc.(not just slap on the wrist fines either), then I'll believe he's doing something about immigration.

How has security under Bush improved? By the Pentagon's admission he has created more terrorists than ever.

What evidence do you have that it has improved and that government powers are being used appropriately? We've convicted like 6 or 7 people(correct me if I'm wrong) many of which on 'material support' charges because they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, not because they were sleeper cells or actual terrorists, but because they may have been sympathizers. American Citizens are being spied on and the government is giving us less and less opportunity for oversight.

If you're going to tell me that's for the good, then you aren't really thinking it through. If we have to take our government's word for their own benevolence, than we have truly given up democracy already.

This administration is out of control with its classifying of shit.
It does something illegal, somebody tells the people, and then it saysthat person compromised national security. That's nonsense of course...

or if you disagree, tell me how knowing about prisons abroad actually hurts national security? How does it compromise their effectiveness if they are legit? How does it benefit terrorists to know they exist?

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:15 PM

Thanks, GreatBlackthorn for your entry!
Yes, you're quite right in your analysis of the power of this government! It is powerful, resolute and unflinching! And nice that you mentioned George Sr. there, none of this would be possible without HIM, of course! Ha Ha! Good call!

And the next to deposit their two cents is...

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:21 PM

Righteous9, thanks for posting! I think what you're trying to say is that the Bush administration is very flexable, and able to adapt! Yes, bound by no law it cannot change or circumvent, this is a FEARLESS administration! (And your 'fall guy' joke was very funny, oh the facetious wit of you people!)

Next to list the accomplishments is....

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:22 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Quote:

Originally posted by chrisisall:
Thanks, GreatBlackthorn for your entry!

I'm confused and starting to regret responding to this thread. I thought you were looking for a serious discussion but I see now that is not the case.

De-lurking to stir stuff up.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:22 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

He's demonstrated that ANYONE can become President! You don't necessarily have to be a policy wonk to get the job.

---------------------------------
Don't piss in my face and tell me it's raining.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:27 PM

Yes SignyM, hope for the common man, that's it! Low IQers need not give up! A Dirty Harry attitude will take you FAR! Your comment on Bush's perserverance is most astute!

And next to throw their comments in is....

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:32 PM

RIGHTEOUS9

actually, I think recently George Bush told the world that he made some mistakes, which was very 'big boy' of him.

He sounded like a kid who's father had just come home.

"Tell your father why your sitting in the chair Georgy."

"mmmmm"

"Come on, he's waiting."

"I said 'bring it on."

"anything else?"

"no."

"Georgie...."

"I was playing marshals and outlaws in the whitehouse again."

"and...

" I said, 'dead or alive.'"

"why was that not a good thing?"

"sent the wrong signal."

"Are you sorry?"

...
...
...
...

"do you promise not to do it again?"

"yeah...."

..............

I think that was a pretty big step for him, and the best thing he's done since he's been in the White House, aside of catching a 7 foot Perch, which might just be a fish story.

.........

To sum it up, George in Washington is a lot like our first president who chopped down the cherry tree. He's just doing it on a much bigger scale.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:37 PM

Yes, your right Righteous9, the ability to admit mistakes is a great attribute, one that George Bush posesses in spades! A humble, yet resolute man is he! I agree with you completely!

On to the next comment.....

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 1:00 PM

CITIZEN

He's all about liberation!

Think of all that Water that's being liberated from it's frozen existence in Antarctica!

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
"I had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalog: 'No good in a bed, but fine against a wall'." -- Eleanor Roosevelt.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 2:36 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

When he lies, he tells BIG lies!

Damn! Didn't someone else do that?

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 3:09 PM

ok.. i had my shot... but i just kept thinking of all the good this man has done.

This really doesn't have anything to do with the many successes of this administration, but it gives us a little insight into the man himself...a true lover of the outdoors, a hunter and fisherman who, by his own statements, admits that the greatest moment of his presidency was catching that "bass" from a stock pond on his ranch... ya gotta love em...
I know i'm glad to have a man like George with his finger on the button that controls the fate of the entire planet....

"Nice one Son..."

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 3:12 PM

BIGDAMNNOBODY

Quote:

Originally posted by Righteous9:

Also, I'd like to know what proof of improvement there actually is. Since you posted, maybe you could direct me to it.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/hurricane/

Posting in this ridiculous thread again because a link was requested.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 3:32 PM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

I'm truly confused. I went to the link - what am I supposed to be looking for?

Some times I feel like I'm talking to "nobody" ....

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 6:30 PM

PHOENIXSHIP

I think the best thing that Bush has done has been to alienate our "allies" in "old Europe" - Rumsfeld.

Or maybe sitting on his ass while Katrina beckoned... You have got to show natural disasters who's boss. They just won't respect you if you jump up all efficient and stuff.

Perhaps his greatest victory has been ...torture! No pain, no gain, is what I always say.

This administration is soaring like the Hindenburg!

"Why're you arguin' what's already been decided?"
Mal to Jayne, "Jaynestown"

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 7:37 PM

KHYRON

Noticeable by their absence are Hero and AURaptor. Maybe they can't think of anything positive to say about the administration now that a thread has come along that actually wants to hear their point of view.

Keeping with the topic, together with the tears of sorrow there have also been tears of laughter, as the administration has given us all something to laugh about on many occasions. It has also effectively made the careers of folks such as Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert.

Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.

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Tuesday, June 6, 2006 8:03 PM

SOUPCATCHER

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
(Although, calling someone on a positive but totally subjective and untrue example is, of course, to be expected...)

Okay, chrisisall, I hope I'm following your directions.

Quote:
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
The re-organization of FEMA under Bush (reaction to Katrina).

Is it really a positive when you have to repair the organization that your appointee has broken? Compare FEMA before James Witt was the director to FEMA under his management to FEMA after he was replaced as director. Three completely different organizations, only one of which was competent. The Alpaugh/Brown FEMA was only a pale shadow of Witt's FEMA by the time Katrina hit. And we all witnessed the results.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Lee_Witt

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 4:46 AM

it seems that our moderator has left the building....

so i am going to leave you with this...
We can all dream of a better world... and a better day...

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 6:07 AM

KHYRON

Bush resigns and Cheney's in prison... so does that mean Rumsfeld has taken over!? Oh God... no! Nnnoooooo!!

Other people can occasionally be useful, especially as minions. I want lots of minions.

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 8:59 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
He's all about liberation!

Think of all that Water that's being liberated from it's frozen existence in Antarctica!

That's right, Citizen! H2O molocules everywhere applaud the end of attention to global warming! Free at last, thank Bush allmighty, they're free at last! And more liberated water means more room on the planet for whales and dolphins; Bush will save the whales!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 9:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
When he lies, he tells BIG lies!

You're riiiiight Rue! The biggest! And for our own good, too! Truth is a depressing cage into which President Bush will not put us; we're FREE!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 9:04 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Phoenixship:

Perhaps his greatest victory has been ...torture! No pain, no gain, is what I always say.

Yes, Phoenixship, that which does not kill us, makes us stronger! And president Bush is making so many so much stronger!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 9:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Khyron:

Keeping with the topic, together with the tears of sorrow there have also been tears of laughter, as the administration has given us all something to laugh about on many occasions.

All too true, Khyron! Who can forget Saddam, that real-life would-be Blofeld, walking around in his underware?
Ha ha, that was true entertainment, ha ha!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 9:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by SoupCatcher:

Is it really a positive when you have to repair the organization that your appointee has broken? Compare FEMA before James Witt was the director to FEMA under his management to FEMA after he was replaced as director. Three completely different organizations, only one of which was competent. The Alpaugh/Brown FEMA was only a pale shadow of Witt's FEMA by the time Katrina hit. And we all witnessed the results.

Come now SoupCatcher! Valid criticism is fine, but it's a PROVEN FACT that no one could have truly understood Katrina's effect on the levees, no matter how many may have correctly predicted it!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 9:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dayve:

Tsk, tsk! Now Dayve, this thread isn't feeling the love from at least one of you respectful citizens! You must turn that frown upside-down!
There you go!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 9:37 AM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Tsk, tsk! Now Dayve, this thread isn't feeling the love from at least one of you respectful citizens! You must turn that frown upside-down!
There you go!

He has been reported for re-Bush-ification Chris-Diddly-Iddily-IsAll!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 9:40 AM

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!

ChrisIsAll,

YOU ROCK!

Nearly everything I know I learned by the grace of others.

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 9:51 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
ChrisIsAll,

YOU ROCK!

Nothing of the kind, Rue! I just decided to join the team, and remember, there is no 'I' in team! While the glass may be half-full, that's not positive enough for me! I want TWO half-full glasses! I intend to be completely full of it, the optimism that President Bush engenders!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 9:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Tsk, tsk! Now Dayve, this thread isn't feeling the love from at least one of you respectful citizens! You must turn that frown upside-down!
He has reported for re-Bush-ification of his own will.

Well, Citizen, good on Dayve! Voluntarily reporting for 'the cleansing of the mind', as it were! Too much thinking causes nasty residues! Good to have a sparkling, accepting mind! The physical part leaves hardly any marks, also! It's overseen by Cheney himself!
A happy customer is in the making, ha ha!

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 11:51 AM

i refuse to spend the rest of my life fishing for nonexistint "bass" from a stinking stock tank in Crawford... i say hang em all...

i give you the interim president - at least until this country grows a pair and elects a decent leader....

we're in some pretty shit now, man....

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 12:09 PM

Thanks, Dayve. And with that, I give up the game-show/spin-doctor mentality to anyone who wants it, it was a fun experiment.

And the next moderator is....

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Wednesday, June 7, 2006 12:38 PM