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Originally posted by rue:
How is that nothing BUT mindless liberal-bashing?

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Liberals baaaaaaaad.
Bush gooooooood.

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Go away and jerk off, a-hole.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
What I find hysterical is that Hero will drag himself down into the faux-hillbilly group (people "is" people) so that Bush won't be there all by "hisself". Now THAT'S what I call loyalty!

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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
that Hero is not interested in dialogue. There is usually one consistency to his posts, he will find a way (sometimes one sentence sometimes paragraphs) to mock liberals. So I treat his posts accordingly. I am constantly revising my opinions so if Hero actually shows signs of engaging in a discussion, absent the blanket attacks, and it's a discussion I have an opinion on then I'll be there. Until then I will mock him for his one-dimensionality.

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British Prime Minister Tony Blair approaches.
Bush : Blair, what are you doing? You leaving?
Blair : No, no, no, not yet.
Blair, standing over Bush as the president eats, tries to engage on the stalled global trade negotiations.
Blair : On this trade thing . . .
Some of the ensuing conversation is inaudible. Blair evidently wants Bush to make a statement on the talks.
Bush : If you want me to. I just want some movement. Yesterday, I didn't see much movement. The desire's to move.
Blair : No, no there's not. It may be that it's impossible.
Bush : I'll be glad to say it. Who's introducing me?
Blair : Angela. [German Chancellor Angela Merkel ]
Bush : Tell her to call on me. Tell her to put me on the spot.
Bush then changes the subject, presumably to a gift Blair must have given him for his recent 60th birthday.
Bush : Thanks for the sweater. Awfully thoughtful of you. I know you picked it out yourself.
Blair : Oh, absolutely.
Both of them laugh. Then Bush turns serious, asking Blair about comments apparently made about the Middle East crisis by U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, another guest at the summit.
Bush : What about Kofi? That seems odd. I don't like the sequence of it. His attitude is basically ceasefire and [then] everything else happens. You know what I'm saying?
Blair : Yeah. No, I think -- the thing that's really difficult is we can't stop this unless you get this international presence agreed. Now, I know what you guys have talked about but it's the same thing.
The next remarks are inaudible, but the conversation turns to U.S. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice.
Blair : . . . see how reliable that is. But you need that done quickly.
Bush : Yeah, she's going. I think Condi's going to go pretty soon.
Blair : Right. Well, that's, that's, that's all that matters. If you -- see, it'll take some time to get out there. But at least it gives people a --
Bush : A process, I agree. I told her your offer too.
It's unclear what offer he means, but apparently Blair offered to make some sort of public statement.
Blair : Well, it's only if it's -- I mean, you know, if she's gotta -- or if she needs the ground prepared, as it were. Obviously, if she goes out, she's got to succeed, as it were, whereas I can just go out and talk.
Bush : See, the irony is what they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit, and it's over.
Blair : Who, Syria?
Bush : Right.
Blair : I think this is all part of the same thing. What does he think? He thinks if Lebanon turns out fine, if we get a solution in Israel and Palestine, Iraq goes in the right way, he's [inaudible ] . That's what this whole thing's about. It's the same with Iran.
Bush : I felt like telling Kofi to get on the phone with Assad and make something happen. We're not blaming Israel. We're not blaming the Lebanese government."
At this point, Blair notices the microphone and turns it off.

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Rue. Maybe you got confused about the real source of the article you quoted. It's not the Washington Post, but a blog on Huffingtonpost.com.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/the-ugly-truth-our-presi_b_25
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The blog does provide a link to the G-8 transcript in the Washington Post, but the Washington Post provides none of the editorial comment you put up.

But let's take the G-8 conversation from where you left off:

British Prime Minister Tony Blair approaches.
Bush : Blair, what are you doing? You leaving?
Blair : No, no, no, not yet.
Blair, standing over Bush as the president eats, tries to engage on the stalled global trade negotiations.
Blair : On this trade thing . . .
Some of the ensuing conversation is inaudible. Blair evidently wants Bush to make a statement on the talks.
Bush : If you want me to. I just want some movement. Yesterday, I didn't see much movement. The desire's to move.
Blair : No, no there's not. It may be that it's impossible.
Bush : I'll be glad to say it. Who's introducing me?
Blair : Angela. [German Chancellor Angela Merkel ]
Bush : Tell her to call on me. Tell her to put me on the spot.
Bush then changes the subject, presumably to a gift Blair must have given him for his recent 60th birthday.
Bush : Thanks for the sweater. Awfully thoughtful of you. I know you picked it out yourself.
Blair : Oh, absolutely.
Both of them laugh. Then Bush turns serious, asking Blair about comments apparently made about the Middle East crisis by U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan, another guest at the summit.
Bush : What about Kofi? That seems odd. I don't like the sequence of it. His attitude is basically ceasefire and [then] everything else happens. You know what I'm saying?
Blair : Yeah. No, I think -- the thing that's really difficult is we can't stop this unless you get this international presence agreed. Now, I know what you guys have talked about but it's the same thing.
The next remarks are inaudible, but the conversation turns to U.S. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice.
Blair : . . . see how reliable that is. But you need that done quickly.
Bush : Yeah, she's going. I think Condi's going to go pretty soon.
Blair : Right. Well, that's, that's, that's all that matters. If you -- see, it'll take some time to get out there. But at least it gives people a --
Bush : A process, I agree. I told her your offer too.
It's unclear what offer he means, but apparently Blair offered to make some sort of public statement.
Blair : Well, it's only if it's -- I mean, you know, if she's gotta -- or if she needs the ground prepared, as it were. Obviously, if she goes out, she's got to succeed, as it were, whereas I can just go out and talk.
Bush : See, the irony is what they need to do is get Syria to get Hezbollah to stop doing this shit, and it's over.
Blair : Who, Syria?
Bush : Right.
Blair : I think this is all part of the same thing. What does he think? He thinks if Lebanon turns out fine, if we get a solution in Israel and Palestine, Iraq goes in the right way, he's [inaudible ] . That's what this whole thing's about. It's the same with Iran.
Bush : I felt like telling Kofi to get on the phone with Assad and make something happen. We're not blaming Israel. We're not blaming the Lebanese government."
At this point, Blair notices the microphone and turns it off.

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Sounds like two friendly heads of state having a private conversation about issues discussed at the G-8 and their responses to them: try to get the trade talks moving, see about Secretary General Annan's peace proposal, see when Secretary Rice can make a Middle-East trip to get a peace process moving, try to get Secretary General Annan to have back-channel talks with Syria about reining in Hezballah. Not very much imbecilic at all, aside from the bad joke about the birthday sweater.
"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Originally posted by Hero:
Thanks for the critque, and an honost ones are scarce these days. My posting is limited by my court schedule. If I have time I discuss, often in depth on a variety of issues. But there is so much anti-Bush sentiment by some people and so many outragous or untrue comments, that I do poke fun and poke holes and sometimes poke funny holes.

Anyway, thanks. And good luck. Certain people hate the whole "writing words and expressing thoughts that don't exactly mirror our own" thing. I call those people "liberals" but some refer to them as Canadian, Democrats, FOX TV executives, and occaisonally the French.

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Originally posted by rue:
Ah. But it is so much LESS than that. Especially re Lebanon.

Bush - what about Kofi?

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Blair - you need to get the int'l presence

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Bush - I think Condi's going pretty soon (I guess he needed to check w/ her before he said that - as she hasn't yet seen fit)

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Blair - that's all that matters

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Bush - "they" need to get Syria to get Hezbollah

Blair - (confused by the non-sequitor) Syria?

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Bush - I felt like telling Kofi to make something happen

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Originally posted by Guywhowantsafireflyofhisown:
I wish you wouldn't brand ppl because of one opinion or another, but I know that's beyond your capability


I'm so into Firefly, my butt glows in the dark.

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Originally posted by rue:
Unwrapped - so you think those quotes are the epitome of intelligence, discernment, savvy. Wow. You've got high standards.

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Originally posted by Righteous9:
What is the President to you, Bigdamnnobody?

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How would you characterize him?

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Originally posted by rue:
You know what I wonder - if he'd pass sobriety and drug tests. Bush may not have too much upstairs but he can follow a script. So why would he do/say that stuff unless he was too happy, happy, HAPPY, WHHHEEEEeeee ... to care?

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Besides, I enjoy lively discussions in RWED. What better way to get one going than to take a position opposite to the threads author.
Plus I knew there was something fishy with the original source.

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President William Jefferson Blythe Clinton - That's who.

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To be fair, I should have said " Liberals " in general, and not made it so specific toward you. Alas, I can't ignore the irony as you braned me as well, based on " one opinion or another... ".

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Originally posted by citizen:

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President William Jefferson Blythe Clinton - That's who.

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Well damn that makes it alright then. Other guys were taking drugs, your honour, so you see you have to let me off.

I was under the impression Clinton wasn't the president anymore, since he's a viable issue when discussing the current president I must of been wrong.

I really thought Bush was the President, or was it Cheney, oh well.

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To be fair, I should have said " Liberals " in general, and not made it so specific toward you. Alas, I can't ignore the irony as you braned me as well, based on " one opinion or another... ".

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Except Guy was making a (quite well founded) observation based on your behaviour, you were doing your typical knee jerk “must insult and attempt to silence all who don’t think in the way AU approves of” thing.

But given your continued inability to see even the most obvious facts of the world around you and yourself I’ll understand if you, as usual, just don’t get it.

BTW the whole as usual “all Liberals blah blah blah” thing, nice way to prove the hypocrite charge .

Oh and darlin’, cherry picked or no, they’re still things he said, know what I’m saying…

Talk like an idiot, look like an idiot, act like an idiot, well I guess you must be:
A SHRUBURY!

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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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The point was brought up that Bush should take a drug test. Fact is, he has had annual check ups with results made public.

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Originally posted by rue:

The Ugly Truth: Our President is an Imbecile

Bush: No, Diet Coke, Diet Coke.

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Originally posted by rue:

Genitourinary System: Exam was within normal limits without evidence of prostate nodularity or hypertrophy. PSA was 0.5 (normal <4.0).
Laboratories
A standard battery of routine screening laboratory tests was performed and was unremarkable.

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Originally posted by rue:
Oh Slick,

tsk, tsk, tsk ...

"What did you think about Kofi Annan's suggestion for a cease-fire and then an international peacekeeping force, Tony?"
Where in the conversation is that? Oh, that's right.
You would be making that up.

"(Blair - to Bush)... the thing that's really difficult is WE can't stop this unless YOU get this international presence agreed"
In context, it's pretty obvious that WE is inclusive, YOU means the US.

"(Bush) ... I think Condi's going pretty soon." In context, Blair was saying (as diplomatically as possible) "that he would be willing to prepare the ground for her trip, because 'she's got to succeed, as it were, whereas I can just go out and talk.'" But Blair needed to know if Condi was going to go before he got on the stage as the opening act, so to speak, and found there was going to be no main show. Bush's response? A definitive "I think she's going to go soon.."

"(Blair - confused by the non-sequitor) Syria?"
"Other people might have thought he didn't hear what Bush was saying, but you got the real scoop." Really? What other people? Or would you just be making that up, too.

"(Bush) ... I felt like telling Kofi to make something happen"
Hence BLAIR working on international presence and trying to get a Condi Rice visit.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
And what did you find when you googled "Bill Cliton" physical ?

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Just to show how fair you are...post your own most recent medical examination and history. Go ahead. I doubt you will though.

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No other interpretations need apply. I never argue religion with a fanatic, so I'll just let you rave on.

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Originally posted by rue:
Slick,

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No other interpretations need apply. I never argue religion with a fanatic, so I'll just let you rave on.

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I'm guessin' this is your lame excuse for why you can't say - given the exact Bush quotes and all - Bush is anything but an em-bare-ass-ment. All you have is another ad hominem attack. As usual.

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...instead of cutting out and re-interpreting little snippets of dialog

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Rice to Present U.S. Peace Plan
By ANNE GEARAN
AP Diplomatic Writer
WASHINGTON

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice will lay out U.S. plans for a diplomatic solution to the Israeli-Hezbollah fighting Friday, an administration official said.

Rice plans a trip to the Mideast as soon as early next week, and will carry the U.S. strategy for ending the 10-day-old warfare and establishing stability in southern Lebanon, a senior Bush administration said. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because Rice has not yet made her plans public.

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The plans emerged following two days of meetings in New York with United Nations Secretary General Kofi Annan and envoys he sent to the region this week.

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Also, the White House announced on Friday that British Prime Minister Tony Blair, a leading U.S. foreign policy ally, will meet with Bush next Friday at the White House. The Middle East crisis will be high on the agenda.

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Who was the last decent idiot to get elected...

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Geezer, you have sunk to a new low. Why? Why? WHY?

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

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Who was the last decent idiot to get elected...

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Oh, we shot that one.

Had to, couldn't have the one eyed man in the city of the blind making the rest of em look like what they are, could we ?

-Frem

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Originally posted by Allisa:

BDM -how about impeachment for editing/destroying goverment inteligence to reflect his own personal wishes? for anyone else that would be....treason

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Or is it because Bush's secret police have destroyed all evidence and have coerced all witnesses into silence (that was a shout-out to all the conspiracy theorists on this board ).

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Originally posted by Allisa:
oh and Geezer? have you suddenly become psychic enough to read the minds of all these "heads of government" and insert their ACTUAL thoughts? No? then you really should not assume but take comments at face value until such time as those actually involved either defend or explain said comments ;)

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Originally posted by Allisa:
I would take Rue to task, Geezer, but Rue did use words like "apparently" and did not attempt to quantify the remarks made, merely commented on the conversation. You however added your own interpratation into the actual text....

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Ah. But it is so much LESS than that. Especially re Lebanon.

Bush - what about Kofi?

Blair - you need to get the int'l presence

Bush - I think Condi's going pretty soon (I guess he needed to check w/ her before he said that - as she hasn't yet seen fit)

Blair - that's all that matters

Bush - "they" need to get Syria to get Hezbollah

Blair - (confused by the non-sequitor) Syria?

Bush - I felt like telling Kofi to make something happen

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