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Miami-Dade County School District votes to remove book from libraries

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Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:14 AM

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"By LAURA WIDES-MUNOZ, Associated Press Writer
Wed Aug 23, 7:21 AM ET

MIAMI - The Miami-Dade County School District voted Tuesday to press ahead with its effort to remove a children's book on life in Cuba from its school libraries.

The board voted 5-2 to appeal a federal judge's temporary order barring the district from removing the children's book, along with 23 others in the series.

The district wants to remove "Vamos a Cuba" ("A Visit to Cuba") following a parent's complaint that it failed to accurately depict the reality of life under Cuba's communist government.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Florida sued to keep the books on the shelf, arguing that they were generally factual, and that the board should add books to its collection, rather than removing those it disagreed with.

U.S. District Judge Alan S. Gold ruled in July in favor of the ACLU, granting a preliminary injunction and writing that efforts to remove the books "goes to the heart of the First Amendment issue."

After Tuesday's vote, ACLU spokesman Brandon Hensler said the board was "deciding to continue its senseless litigation and to waste taxpayer dollars that could be used to buy new books.

Board member Frank Bolanos, who has championed removal of the books, called the vote "the right move and the courageous move."

Opinions anyone? Whatever happened to free speech? Should schools be censoring material in this manner?



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Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:

The district wants to remove "Vamos a Cuba" ("A Visit to Cuba") following a parent's complaint that it failed to accurately depict the reality of life under Cuba's communist government.




http://www.literacytrust.org.uk/database/stats/popular.html

Top library books worldwide listed

Various editions of the US Census rank as the most-held work among member libraries in the Online Computer Library center (OCLC). In 2004, OCLC Research published a list of the top 1,000 titles owned by member libraries - the intellectual works that have been judged worth owning by the "purchase vote" of libraries around the globe.

Here are the OCLC's top ten titles:

1. Census
2. Bible
3. Mother Goose
4. Dante's The Divine Comedy
5. Homer's Odyssey
6. Homer's Iliad
7. The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
8. Hamlet by William Shakespeare
9. Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll
10. The Lord of the Rings by JRR Tolkien

Shakespeare has the most works on the list, at 40, followed by Charles Dickens with 16 works and John Grisham with 13. Jim Davis, author of Garfield, is the highest ranking living author. Four of the five top works by living authors are cartoons. Harper Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird is the highest ranking work by a living female author, at number 149.


I'm no Librarian, but I have read a number of these books and most of them do not accurately depict the reality of life.

I lived in Florida for a couple of years a while back and all I can say is it's a weird place!

You could fill a book about how weird it is. Wait, somebody has:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0760759456/sr=1-3/qid=1156364966/ref=
pd_bbs_3/104-3961466-5069518?ie=UTF8&s=books


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Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:34 AM

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The issues of 'free speech' and 'censorship' are moot in this matter. Nothing the Gov't is doing ( or the school board ) is prohibiting this book from being printed. And it's clearly with in the Board's prerogative to determine which books are suitable for school libraries.

I've not seen the book, so I can't comment on how factual it is or isn't. But one must question the legitimacy of a book titled ' Vamos a Cuba ', when we can't actually vamos there in the 1st place.

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Wednesday, August 23, 2006 12:25 PM

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In the interest of providing more information... Here is the complete set of 24 books that the school district wants to remove: http://www.heinemannlibrary.com/products/series.asp?id=1403409692

And here are excerpts from an interview, conducted by the School Library Journal, with one of the witnesses for the ACLU, "a First Amendment issues spokeswoman for the American Library Association".
Quote:

excerpted from http://www.schoollibraryjournal.com/article/CA6364993.html
What did you think of the "Visit to…" series?

Some people in the Cuban community felt that it did not paint an accurate picture of Cuba because it did not mention Castro and the oppression under Castro. I looked at the entire series; I read them all. One of the points I made in my affidavit was that ages four to eight cognitively really don't "get" the concept of government. They are establishing their own place within the community; "community" may be their neighborhood, their town or city, or even their classroom in their school. But as far as a broader picture of government, they don't {have one}. So what the case was all about was what was omitted rather than what was included.

What else did the board object to about the Cuba book?

It said that in Cuba, for special festivals, men wear white pants and white shirts, and women wear bright-colored skirts with ruffles. And they said only the rich would do that. I raised the case in the affidavit that in Scotland—I did look at the book on Scotland—and guess what? They showed a kilt. Well, people in Scotland don't walk around in a kilt, and they're so expensive, mostly only the rich wear them unless they make their own.

During your testimony, what did the school board's attorney ask you?

They had an expert witness, a woman Ph.D psychologist who said that lying to children will cause them damage. And they claimed that by omitting information from these books, it was indeed a lie. So I put in my affidavit that in the case of children ages four to eight sometimes in a nonfiction work too much information can be more damaging than too little. And they kept going on to me about this: "Well do you think it's too much information to say that the children in Cuba are poor?" And I said no, but {that detail is} in the book. It says children go to school part of the day and work the other part. And it's in the pictures.

What did you testify to under rebuttal questioning by the ACLU's attorney?

I said, "Based on what I have observed in this courtroom today it appears to me that the reason the books were removed is because of the personal and political convictions of the adults and their {attempt} to inflict their own convictions on children and children's books."


Just a further addendum, according to the lead-in to the interview in the above article, "On one side of the controversy is the school board, on the other, the Miami chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) of Florida and the school district's Student Government Association (with support from the Florida Library Association)."


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