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Republican Rep. Mark Foley resigned Friday from the House after sexually explicit instant message conversations with teenage congressional pages attributed to him surfaced.

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Originally posted by citizen:
I see, like a really advanced version of home economics.

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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

Yes, but without the kitchen or that damn cooking. She will make a fine wife someday. He should have something worse happen to him than just losing his job! (I am assuming age is under 17).

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Originally posted by kaneman:
He should have worse happen to him than just loosing his job! (I am assuming age is under 17).

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Earlier Friday, a former congressional page questioned e-mails Foley had sent to him, describing it as "sick." Foley, a Florida representative, apparently sent the e-mails in August 2005, when the male page was 16 years old.

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Originally posted by kaneman:
ABC has reported that one message Foley wrote, "Do I make you a little horny?".

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Hager- FDA advisor on Women's Reporductive Health- repeatedly raped and beat his wife

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Originally posted by SignyM:

I'm of the impression that most Republicans are dyed in the wool hypocrites.

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"It's vile," said Rep. Mark Foley, R-West Palm Beach. "It's more sad than anything else, to see someone with such potential throw it all down the drain because of a sexual addiction." On Bill Clinton - 1998

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* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.

* Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.

* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano was arrested for sexually molesting a 14-year-old girl.

* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.

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Originally posted by citizen:
And the republicans chose extra marital sex as an impeachable crime for Clinton?

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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
More details coming out. The House Republican leadership knew and hushed it up. I think it's time to start adding the adjective immoral to that noun phrase. The immoral House Republican leadership. Yep. That works.

Here's the details. All of this happened 10 or 11 months ago. The 16 year old page worked for Rep. Rodeny Alexander of Louisiana (Republican). The page informed a staffer about the e-mails. The staffer informed Alexander. Alexander called the page's parents. He also notified Majority Leader John Boehner of Ohio (Republican). Boehner told Rep. Dennis Hastert of Illinois (Republican). Hastert told Boehner that, "we're taking care of it." Somehow or other Rep. John Shimkus of Illinois (Republican) gets involved and interviews Rep. Foley as part of a House Page Board investigation. The only Democratic member of that board, Rep. Dale Kildee of Michigan, is not notified because, as Shimkus put it, "I'm the chairman of the page board. The Clerk and I addressed this issue."

Hmmm. I'm not sure I followed all that. I think I'll go back to shortening up things.

The immoral Republican leadership of the House of Representatives.

You get what you vote for.

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MCGREEVEY: But my truth is that I am a gay American.

KING: Halfway into his first term, New Jersey Governor Jim McGreevey, Roman Catholic father of two, once a rising Democratic star with his second wife at his side, admitting adultery, stepping down and coming out.

MCGREEVEY: Shamefully, I engaged in an adult consensual affair with another man which violated my bonds of matrimony. I have decided the right course of action is to resign.

KING: McGreevey faced personal and political scandal. He put his alleged gay lover, Israeli citizen Golan Cipel (ph), on the state payroll as a special counsel. Some question Cipel's credentials. Cipel himself denied any affair with McGreevey and denied he was gay. In his new tell-all book, McGreevey describes his first kiss with Cipel as life-changing after years of sleazy back-alley sex. But, Cipel, who McGreevey claims tried to blackmail him, says McGreevey sexually assaulted him.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0609/21/lkl.01.html

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Florida congressman who quit after questions emerged about his e-mails to teenage pages has checked himself into alcohol rehab.

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Former US Congressman Mark Foley, who has been embroiled in a scandal over sexually suggestive e-mails, says he is undergoing treatment for alcoholism.
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"I strongly believe that I am an alcoholic and have accepted the need for immediate treatment for alcoholism and other behavioural problems"
Mark Foley

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Originally posted by citizen:
Republican Rep. Mark Foley resigned Friday from the House after sexually explicit instant message conversations with teenage congressional pages attributed to him surfaced.


Just wondering if this is what Hero means by superior Republican values?

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Mark Foley resigned

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Originally posted by Hero:
Yes. This is a GREAT example of Republican values. You missed the most important section of the story you cited

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Originally posted by Hero:
Republicans and Democrats are human and commit crimes common to all persons regardless of race, class, and party affiliation. Unlike Democrats, when caught, Republicans either do the right thing or else are held accountable by other Republicans who, in this case, likely forced his immediate resignation rather then the more politically expediant waiting until the day after his reelection so they could appoint a Republican replacement.

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excerpted from http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/10/2/163734/561

But in the end, at the end of it all, you don't FUCKING COVER UP FOR A CHILD SEX PREDATOR. No. Matter. What.

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Originally posted by Hero:
Republicans either do the right thing or else are held accountable by other Republicans who, in this case, likely forced his immediate resignation rather then the more politically expediant waiting until the day after his reelection so they could appoint a Republican replacement.

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Originally posted by Hero:

Republicans and Democrats are human and commit crimes common to all persons regardless of race, class, and party affiliation. Unlike Democrats, when caught, Republicans either do the right thing or else are held accountable by other Republicans who, in this case, likely forced his immediate resignation rather then the more politically expediant waiting until the day after his reelection so they could appoint a Republican replacement.

Many Democrats have committed crimes and/or been caught acting in an inappropriate fashion with their subordinates and, with one notable exception (from New Jersey of all places), don't, in recent years anyway...taken professional responsibitlity for these personal failures.

When there is an (R) next to a person's name, they tend to resign in disgrace for the good of the party and the country after which its a private matter and should be handled with discretion within the limits of the law and media notwithstanding.

If this Congressman had a (D) then there would be a parade of excuses, claims of entrapment, vast right wing conspiracies, claims that this is private, and a vicious attack on the Page's and the Speaker's office for sending this to the proper authorities for investigation. It'd be a nice press conference...with Dany Glover and maybe Al Sharpton.

Lets not forget a certain Congressman whose murdered intern was so convieniantly made back page news by 9/11. He was a Democrat...and did not resign.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
There are a few exceptions and they deserve our support.

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Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.

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Republicans either do the right thing or else are held accountable by other Republicans who, in this case, likely forced his immediate resignation

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The amazing thing is that Foley was up until Friday "co-chairman of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus"! And House Republicans knew about this for a YEAR, and protected him anyway. This is like Catholic bishops protecting pedohpile priests! How creepy can this get?

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Republicans and Democrats are human and commit crimes common to all persons regardless of race, class, and party affiliation. Unlike Democrats, when caught, Republicans either do the right thing or else are held accountable by other Republicans who, in this case, likely forced his immediate resignation rather then the more politically expediant waiting until the day after his reelection so they could appoint a Republican replacement...

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STORYMARK

...Does anyone even take Hero's retarded ranting seriously anymore?

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...[/The simple fact is that the Republican leadership did not want to know what was going on. Foley was a Republican vote in Congress from a safe district. So they kept quiet and looked the other way and hoped no one would notice.

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Originally posted by FellowTraveler:
And like clockwork, it's time to blame the bad behavior on the booze...

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=40782

"Lawyer: Foley checks into rehab for alcoholism"

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Florida congressman who quit after questions emerged about his e-mails to teenage pages has checked himself into alcohol rehab.

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Originally posted by FellowTraveler:
And like clockwork, it's time to blame the bad behavior on the booze...

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=40782

"Lawyer: Foley checks into rehab for alcoholism"

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WASHINGTON (AP) — The Florida congressman who quit after questions emerged about his e-mails to teenage pages has checked himself into alcohol rehab.

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I do think there is a reason why he has been whisked away to rehab, they've got him somewhere where they can keep an eye on him and make sure nobody gets to him until this dies down.

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"If I were one of these sickos I would be nervous with America's Most Wanted on my back."
-Congressman Mark Foley, co-chair of the Committee on Missing and Exploited Children, America's Most Wanted

Bush loves Gannon Gosch

Rabbit Hole Of Elitist Perversion Far Deeper Than Foley
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=634200
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Flamed Out GOP Star Arrested For Child Sex Assault

Colorado Confidential
September 29, 2006

Randal D. "Randy" Ankeney, the convicted sex offender who just a few short years ago was a rising GOP star in Colorado, is being held on a $1 million bond in Larimer County.

Ankeney, 35, who was arrested Wednesday, is facing five counts of sexual assault on a child, three counts of sexual enticement of a child and one count of sexual exploitation of a child. The felonies, if he is convicted, could send him to prison for life.

The charges come less than 15 months after the former attorney, head of Gov. Bill Owens’ economic development office in Colorado Springs and graduate of the Republican Leadership Program, was released from prison after serving a two-year sentence for attempted sexual assault on a child.

www.infowars.com/articles/us/gop_star_arrested_for_child_sexual_assaul
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Bring It On: Republican Pedophilia - A Long but Distinguished List
www.teambio.org/2006/10/republican-pedophilia-a-long-but-distinguished
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Originally posted by Hero:

Lets not forget a certain Congressman whose murdered intern was so convieniantly made back page news by 9/11. He was a Democrat...and did not resign.

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A Death in the Congressman's Office

Does Anybody in the Press Care About Lori Klausutis?

By Denis Wright and Chris George
August 8, 2001 (APJP)

Once upon a time, the phrase "investigative reporter" actually meant something. It usually involved hard work, possibly even mentation. Now, it seems, they just make stuff up. Especially on the Fox News Channel, where an uninitiated viewer could easily think she/he had tuned in Comedy Central. It's "Chandra-Chandra-Chandra" with the occasional "Condit is just like Clinton" thrown in. Given our media's 24/7 obsession with the Gary Condit "scandal", you might assume that there is a real dearth of hard news to pursue.
In reality, there is indeed a news story percolating out there. The story bears remarkable and ironic similarities to the Condit/Levy story. Both involve Congressmen, rumors of infidelity, and the fate of a younger female subordinate. The details are so similar as to remind one of two alternate universes. The difference between the two stories? First, in the Klausutis case as not in the Levy case, there is a real body, very dead. Second, the Klausutis case involves a Republican.

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The Washington Post's NATION IN BRIEF column:

"FORT WALTON BEACH, FL. - Lori Klausutis, a 28-year-old office worker for Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-Fl), was found dead in the congressman's district office. Police said preliminary findings from the medical examiner's office showed no foul play or any outward indication of suicide."

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Unbelievably, that was it. The story was simply dropped. A young female employee of one of Florida's Congressmen had died unexpectedly in the Congressman's office. There were no witnesses to her death and the cause of death was not apparent. Klausutis' boss, Joe Scarborough had recently resigned from Congress prematurely and unexpectedly, amid rumors about his marital fidelity and soon after a divorce. He had also abruptly resigned as publisher of the Independent Florida Sun, claiming that resigning from Congress and as publisher was necessary to spend more time with his sons.

Such circumstances make one pause. Sick to death of the clear bias of the corporate owned media, and suspicious of the odd nature of this death, we began to dig for answers. The more information we discovered, the more unlikely, and the more newsworthy the story became.

Here are the facts:
www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html

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The Strange Death Of The Woman Who Filed A Rape
Lawsuit Against Bush

Jackson Thoreau
opednews.com
3-7-2005

"She filed a lawsuit against the Sugar Land department and said that in preparing its defense, Sugar Land police found out that she dated Bush as a minor."

Early one Saturday afternoon in July 2003, I made a simple phone call to Margie Schoedinger, a Texas woman who filed a rape lawsuit against George W. Bush in December 2002. I expected to leave a message on a machine, so I was caught a little offguard when Schoedinger answered.

She, too, sounded somewhat surprised I had called, saying she hadn't heard from many other reporters. But she talked to me for a few minutes about the legal action.

"I am still trying to prosecute [the lawsuit]," said Schoedinger, a 38-year-old African-American woman who lived in the Houston suburb of Missouri City. "I want to get this matter settled and go on with my life."

Well, Schoedinger hasn't gone on with her life. In fact, three months after I spoke to her, she died in an apparent suicide. And this matter remains unsettled.

When I asked her in July 2003 about the lack of media coverage, Schoedinger said she wasn't seeking publicity. She said she did not even know about a December 2002 article in the Fort Bend Star, the only U.S. mainstream media outlet that covered this story, to my knowledge. The Fort Bend reporter, LeaAnne Klentzman, said she even went to Schoedinger's home and talked to a man there, who said she could not come to door. While I reached and spoke to Schoedinger on my first attempt, maybe she wasn't ready to talk back in December.

For the rest of the story:
www.rense.com/general63/strange.htm

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Originally posted by piratejenny:
It's sick, we are suppose to care that he has a substance problem, and that is suppose to somehow relieve him of being a pedophile, so he quits his job and goes into rehab...why isn't he being arrested, this is just going to be swept under the rug and they are going to continue hurting children..because they can get away with it!!

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Originally posted by Righteous9:
It's already been posted how Hastert and other republicans knew about this scandal and said nothing.
I honestly don't think even you believe the shit you spew, and I'm really not sure why you expect anyone else to, when your posts never last more than five minutes before somebody has to correct your rhetoric, by pointing out nasty little facts...facts that you could even get by watching our shitty news networks, and that's saying something.

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Hastert insisted that top Republican leaders did not know about sexually explicit instant messages Foley allegedly sent former male pages in 2003. The messages surfaced Friday in an ABC News report shortly after Foley resigned.

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Two Republican Congressmen -- Rep. John Shimkus, chairman of the House Page Board, and Rep. Tom Reynolds, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee -- have acknowledged knowing about an "overly friendly" exchange between Foley and a former male page.

The e-mails, which occurred in 2005 between Foley and a page from Louisiana, were not sexually explicit.

Shimkus, of Illinois, has said Foley assured him nothing inappropriate had taken place with the page, and Foley was then told not to have any further contact with the teen and to watch his conduct around pages.

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The FBI, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the House Ethics Committee are investigating Foley's conduct -- and whether there was any attempt to cover it up.

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Originally posted by Righteous9:

You actually took pains to remove the Rice part of my post BigDamnednobody?

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:

Cut the righteousness and try to remember that like enemy combatants, Hastert, Shimkus, Reynolds et al are innocent until proven guilty.

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The facts of the disgrace of Mark Foley, who was a Republican member of the House from a Florida district until he resigned last week, constitute a disgrace for every Republican member of Congress. Red flags emerged in late 2005, perhaps even earlier, in suggestive and wholly inappropriate e-mail messages to underage congressional pages. His aberrant, predatory -- and possibly criminal -- behavior was an open secret among the pages who were his prey. The evidence was strong enough long enough ago that the speaker should have relieved Mr. Foley of his committee responsibilities contingent on a full investigation to learn what had taken place, whether any laws had been violated and what action, up to and including prosecution, were warranted by the facts. This never happened...

... House Speaker Dennis Hastert must do the only right thing, and resign his speakership at once. Either he was grossly negligent for not taking the red flags fully into account and ordering a swift investigation, for not even remembering the order of events leading up to last week's revelations -- or he deliberately looked the other way in hopes that a brewing scandal would simply blow away. He gave phony answers Friday to the old and ever-relevant questions of what did he know and when did he know it? Mr. Hastert has forfeited the confidence of the public and his party, and he cannot preside over the necessary coming investigation, an investigation that must examine his own inept performance.

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Originally posted by Hero:
Sending a few suggestive e-mails to a teenager is not the same as being a pedophile. There is no evidence he had sexual relations with a minor. No evidence he had sexual relations with a Congressional Page. Such evidence may be forthcoming, but as yet it simply isn't there.

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Originally posted by Hero:
There is evidence that he had inappropriate e-mail exchanges with a Page. This is a rules violation and when discovered it was referred to the disciplinary committee, the head of the Page Program, and the FBI for criminal investigation. The FBI concluded that while inappropriate, the e-mails provided at the time were not illegal.

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Originally posted by Hero:
There is now evidence of additional instant messages that were sent to the Page from the Congressman. These IMs are sexually explicit and likely illegal. The FBI will review this NEW evidence and determine if Federal law was broken, if it was then he will be arrested, rehab or not. Why does the FBI need to review them when they are clearly sexually explicit? I'd say the most pressing concern for the FBI is the need to make sure they are authentic and to make sure they can prove where they came from. Without that sort of evidence, they cannot hope to sustain the case much less secure a conviction.

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Originally posted by FellowTraveler:
One further addendum. There has been no evidence that Rep. Foley is a pedophile (that I am aware of). A pedophile is attracted to pre-pubescent children. A 16 year old boy, surely, would have hit puberty. There is another word for those who are attracted to post-pubescent teens, but I can't think of it... (and sure as Hell ain't gonna' google to find out) And isn't 16 the age of consent throughout much of the western world? I'm pretty sure that it's even legal in several states in the US. The guy certainly seems like a louse and likes 'em real young, but calling him a child molester might be a little over the top...

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Cut the righteousness and try to remember that like enemy combatants, Hastert, Shimkus, Reynolds et al are innocent until proven guilty.

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And what rock have you been living under?

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Originally posted by Hero:
The FBI concluded that while inappropriate, the e-mails provided at the time were not illegal.

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This is pretty important. And it's the first I've heard that there was an FBI investigation ten or eleven months ago. Could you please provide a source for that?

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