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Bigdamnnobody - I said hastert knew about this scandal and yet said nothing. He did know something was up. I never declared that he knew everything, only that he knew something and then told the public he knew nothing - only then did he have to re-assess and admit to knowing something. How is it hypocracy for me to point out what we do know? I never said Hastert should step down, I never indicated what kind of involvement he had at all...

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Originally posted by rue:
That means Clinton is innocent. He was impeached (charged) by the House but acquitted (found not guilty) by the Senate. Since he was not proved guilty, he is innocent.

Don't want anything ever spewed out of you about Clinton.

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Buffalo, NY - Republican Tom Reynolds rented out a daycare facility today as he surrounded himself with kids and families, using them as protection from tough questions about specifics into the Foley messages. ...

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Reporter: Congressman, do you mind asking the children to leave the room so we can have a frank discussion of this, because it's an adult topic. It just doesn't seem appropriate to me.

Reynolds: I'll take your questions, but I'm not going to ask any of my supporters to leave.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
I'm just waiting for "It was the kid's fault". I'm sure it won't be long in coming (so to speak).

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One further addendum. There has been no evidence that Rep. Foley is a pedophile (that I am aware of). A pedophile is attracted to pre-pubescent children. A 16 year old boy, surely, would have hit puberty. There is another word for those who are attracted to post-pubescent teens, but I can't think of it...

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Originally posted by SignyM:
I'm just waiting for "It was the kid's fault". I'm sure it won't be long in coming (so to speak).

And in the meantime, rumor is that someone tried to bribe ABC not to go public with this story. Waiting to see what happens to that.Bush even defended Hastert , today!!

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
PJ, a little math lesson real quick.

And this'll let you know why I am less than fond of NCMEC.

Count how many missing kids in the USA, count em, just the reported ones, even.

Think of the physical VOLUME that so many people would take up, even.

Then go count how many kids go into the social services system, via neglect, abandonment or in rare case outright lame excuses.

Then go count how many come OUT.

So, what happens ?
Where the hell are they ?
They're not in foster care, not placed, not adoped and not in custody... they just... no longer officially exist.

Not only that, but Boys Town is not the only feeder system, there's plenty more, many associated with Catholic Charities.

If I can spot these anomolies, so can NCMEC, and thus, they "know", and the lack of action in that direction, that silence, condemns them more than any words I could say.

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The guy certainly seems like a louse and likes 'em real young, but calling him a child molester might be a little over the top...
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I call bullshit.

They knew, they know.

The whole poisonous little atmosphere up on the hill is rife with this crap on both sides of the fence, even the most cursory investigation will leave any sensible person heaving into an airsick back in under an hour - I *guarantee* it.

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Originally posted by piratejenny:
can someone tell me which news outlet broke this story 1rst , because I find it starnge that a main-stream newpaper or media outlet would do.!! so I would like to see whats behind that!!

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

PJ, a little math lesson real quick.

And this'll let you know why I am less than fond of NCMEC.

Count how many missing kids in the USA, count em, just the reported ones, even.

Think of the physical VOLUME that so many people would take up, even.

Then go count how many kids go into the social services system, via neglect, abandonment or in rare case outright lame excuses.

Then go count how many come OUT.

So, what happens ?
Where the hell are they ?
They're not in foster care, not placed, not adoped and not in custody... they just... no longer officially exist.

Not only that, but Boys Town is not the only feeder system, there's plenty more, many associated with Catholic Charities.

If I can spot these anomolies, so can NCMEC, and thus, they "know", and the lack of action in that direction, that silence, condemns them more than any words I could say.

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This is a mystery while I'm sure some of the children that are missing can be blamed on parent abuductions that doesn't account for half of children who go missing and are never heard from,..so this question begs to be asked, if 2,000-3,000 children go missing in the U.S everyday,what is happening to them?...whats going on.?

http://www.southernrescue.org/info/Missing.html
http://www.operationlookout.org/lookoutmag/Missing_Children_Data.htm

http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/fs100202.htm

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"If I were one of these sickos I would be nervous with America's Most Wanted on my back."
-Congressman Mark Foley, co-chair of the Committee on Missing and Exploited Children, America's Most Wanted, VIDEO:

"It's vile. It's more sad than anything else, to see someone with such potential throw it all down the drain because of a sexual addiction."
-Congressman Mark Foley, homosexual pedophile cybersex serviced during Congressional votes, regarding Monica Lowenski servicing Bill Clinton Blythe in the White House

"Mark Foley wants you to know he is a gay man. Mark voluntarily entered a substance abuse and mental health facility, and he will be there at least 30 days. This decision was Mark's, as was his decision to resign from the United States House of Representatives. Between the ages of 13 and 15, he was molested by a clergyman."
-David Roth, attorney for Mark Foley
www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/03/foley.scandal/index.html

"Do I make you a little horny?"
-Congressman Mark Foley, cybersex email to Congressional page


www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=
364x2303322
Propaganda Brainwash Formula 101

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"You'll pay any tax increase I tell you to pay! You can afford it!"
-Victor Ashe, mayor, Knoxville city council meeting

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Now since the Congressional Page Program is actually a semi-private High School -- and the Congress selects a committee to oversee it (electors selecting a board of education actually) -- I think the legality is that they, Senators and Congresspersons, are all Mandated Reporters. If a school counselor didn't report in timely fashion, engaged in preliminary investigation, destroyed evidence and all -- it is a felony and loss of profession license. Congress is the Board of Education for the Page School. They, or at least the ones who knew were Mandated Reporters. If a Bishop doesn't now immediatly report suspicion -- he is in very deep trouble. And they know. The Irony of CNN's picking up the Foley story the other day was at the time their crawl was running news that the LA Archdiocese was in the final throes of negotiations on its settlement, and it was costing 60 Million Dollars.
http://coffeehouse.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/sep/30/hastert_ma
y_be_guilty_of_criminal_conspiracy

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
PN isn't too far off, on this one, it's way weirder than you know, and the strangeness has only just begun.

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The guy certainly seems like a louse and likes 'em real young, but calling him a child molester might be a little over the top...
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so you think calling him a pedophile is over the top..really..seriously..I'm so thourghly disgusted right now I don't know what to say..

but ummm thanks for the honesty I guess!!its disturbingly great to know how people really feel

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"There are going to be some issues here in the gray area," Lanning said. "You may find this behavior repulsive, offensive or immoral. Whether it's a violation of law will be based on a precise reading of the law."

Investigators could consider federal obscenity laws, experts said, but the law prohibiting disseminating obscene material to children applies only to those under 16.

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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:

PJ, a little math lesson real quick.

And this'll let you know why I am less than fond of NCMEC.

Count how many missing kids in the USA, count em, just the reported ones, even.

Think of the physical VOLUME that so many people would take up, even.

Then go count how many kids go into the social services system, via neglect, abandonment or in rare case outright lame excuses.

Then go count how many come OUT.

So, what happens ?
Where the hell are they ?
They're not in foster care, not placed, not adoped and not in custody... they just... no longer officially exist.

Not only that, but Boys Town is not the only feeder system, there's plenty more, many associated with Catholic Charities.

If I can spot these anomolies, so can NCMEC, and thus, they "know", and the lack of action in that direction, that silence, condemns them more than any words I could say.

-Frem

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This is a mystery while I'm sure some of the children that are missing can be blamed on parent abuductions that doesn't account for half of children who go missing and are never heard from,..so this question begs to be asked, if 2,000-3,000 children go missing in the U.S everyday,what is happening to them?...whats going on.?

http://www.southernrescue.org/info/Missing.html
http://www.operationlookout.org/lookoutmag/Missing_Children_Data.htm

http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/fs100202.htm

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White House correspondent Johnny Gosch Gannon, the homohooker who slept over with Junior Bush 200 times...
www.johnnygosch.com

Here's part of the problem - a confessed "pedophile" ran the Committee on Missing and Exploited Children...

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"If I were one of these sickos I would be nervous with America's Most Wanted on my back."
-Congressman Mark Foley, co-chair of the Committee on Missing and Exploited Children, America's Most Wanted, VIDEO:

"It's vile. It's more sad than anything else, to see someone with such potential throw it all down the drain because of a sexual addiction."
-Congressman Mark Foley, homosexual pedophile cybersex serviced during Congressional votes, regarding Monica Lowenski servicing Bill Clinton Blythe in the White House

"Mark Foley wants you to know he is a gay man. Mark voluntarily entered a substance abuse and mental health facility, and he will be there at least 30 days. This decision was Mark's, as was his decision to resign from the United States House of Representatives. Between the ages of 13 and 15, he was molested by a clergyman."
-David Roth, attorney for Mark Foley
www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/10/03/foley.scandal/index.html

"Do I make you a little horny?"
-Congressman Mark Foley, cybersex email to Congressional page


www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=
364x2303322
Propaganda Brainwash Formula 101

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Our local TV news perps the same brainwashing, when discussing our Republican Skull & Bones mayor raising taxes 100%, then identifying him as a "Democrat" on the TV title. The TV "newscaster" was the "deputy mayor" for our gay mayor, ambassador Victor "Victoria" Ashe, who is also the longtime S&M gay lover of Georgie Bush Jr, according to eyewitness dominatrix Leona McConnell, candidate for governor of Nevada.
www.mcconnellforgovernor.com
www.bushssecretlifein84.tripod.com

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"You'll pay any tax increase I tell you to pay! You can afford it!"
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Question for Hero:

Foley has confessed to cybersex orgasm with a minor. Is that classified as the mental illness of pedophilia? Is that prosecutable as a sex crime? Is "contact" an essential element?

Has any law enforcement employee taken affidavits from the 5 pages, to determine if any were physically molested by Foley? Foley's lawyer denied that Foley "had sexual relations" with those specific pages in the emails, but the lawyer is not under oath, and his statement is a boilerplate denial that all lawyers do when pleading "not guilty" for a client. The lawyer has no idea if what he or his client is saying is true, especially since he did confess his client is "an alcoholic with mental illness", who's now in the Loony Bin. He certainly has no idea if Foley molested other boys. Are all pages a minimum age of 16? How old are applicants, 15? How many children has Foley preyed upon who were 15 or younger? Foley confessed a Catholic priest molested him since he was 13, so presumably Foley is attracted to 13 year olds...

The Amish gunman who executed 5 schoolgirls and shot 5 more schoolgirls was a confessed pedophile, and not even his wife knew that he molested their in-laws.

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Now since the Congressional Page Program is actually a semi-private High School -- and the Congress selects a committee to oversee it (electors selecting a board of education actually) -- I think the legality is that they, Senators and Congresspersons, are all Mandated Reporters. If a school counselor didn't report in timely fashion, engaged in preliminary investigation, destroyed evidence and all -- it is a felony and loss of profession license. Congress is the Board of Education for the Page School. They, or at least the ones who knew were Mandated Reporters. If a Bishop doesn't now immediatly report suspicion -- he is in very deep trouble. And they know. The Irony of CNN's picking up the Foley story the other day was at the time their crawl was running news that the LA Archdiocese was in the final throes of negotiations on its settlement, and it was costing 60 Million Dollars.
http://coffeehouse.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/sep/30/hastert_ma
y_be_guilty_of_criminal_conspiracy

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Let's see...

Bill Bennet and his gambling problem.
"Duke" Cunningham and his bribery problem (in jail).
Ney and the casino kickbacks (going to jail).

Tom and Bernadette Noe and Ohio Governor Taft, who between them "managed" about 7% of the Worker's Compensation Fund into their own pockets.
Tom Delay- indicted for conspircay to evade election laws
Biil Frist- under investigation for insider trading
"Scooter" Libby- indicted
Abramoff- director of conservative think tank Public Policy Research and religious-right organization Toward Tradition, pled guilty to several counts of criminal fraud- Freed to testify about a casino-related murder. I'm sure many more indictments will come out of this.
Hager- FDA advisor on Women's Reporductive Health- repeatedly raped and beat his wife

I'm of the impression that most Republicans are dyed in the wool hypocrites. Reality sucks. Especially when it contradicts our cherished ideas.

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