Shut up and Vote by FutureMrsFIllion

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Shut up and Vote

POSTED BY: FUTUREMRSFILLION
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 8, 2006 18:36
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Monday, October 30, 2006 1:49 PM

There is a lot of discussion about the state of this country and a lot of name calling and arguments. It all comes down to one thing. On voting day, go to your local polling place and VOTE. It you don't vote then you have no right to complain.

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Bestower of Titles, Designer of Tshirts, Maker of Mottos, Keeper of the Pyre

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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Monday, October 30, 2006 1:54 PM

PENGUIN

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Monday, October 30, 2006 3:21 PM

ANTIMASON

thats always true, you cant dispute that... you kind of hope people know what theyre voting for though. i think thats part of the danger of spin, which we know is happening and its all LIES, but with a different lable so its acceptable- well the corporations and money interests from the federal and international levels out vote and out campaign the citizens, or just disquise their crime under clever beaucratic socialist guises; and they always win. they own the system, so you have to vote against them and that mentality. its not hard to see what direction the globalist/capitalist/consumer mentality is taking us, and i for one do not want a socialist/fascist world police state, and have no desire to support perpetual warfare.

the other problem is that its potentially pointless to vote if we cant insure that our voting system is sound and accurate, and most importantly impenetrable by outside interests. the DeBold electronic machines and its company heirarchs have a political agenda and they built those machines to be hacked into; its been proven. and going further back, if youll notice what happened in Florida in the 2000 presidential election, the body of politics surrounding the elections were fully capable and heavily manipulated that particular outcome; its just happens. we need to be a little more resilient and skeptical of the establishment and corporate america, the nature of lobbyists and system, and be able to recognize a fraud and liar and sellout when we see one.

otherwise VOTE ON!..

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Monday, October 30, 2006 3:29 PM

KANEMAN

Let's all vote. And lets make FMF(or SMF..for you Twisted Sister fans[shame on you]) happy and vote DEMOCRATIC...WHOOT!!!!

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Monday, October 30, 2006 3:36 PM

DREAMTROVE

sorry, this is the sort of dictatorial position that I thought we had killed already.

1. people have the right not to take part in this charade which pretends to be a democracy. The voting machines have already decided the winner. it makes no difference how we vote.

2. The truly good candidates are removed by hook or by crook, preventing me from being able to vote for either Pirro or McFarland for senate. I can write them in, but so what? So I should have to endorse one of the remaining candidates?

3. As Heinlein said, only a fool votes and thinks that this gives him an equal say in democracy, your amount of political influence is porportional to the effort you put into it.

4. My election will be sweeped by mediocre democrats, not even decent ones. nothing i do is going to change that.

Sure, i'll vote, but I just wanted to say, this illusion of a say is absurd.

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Monday, October 30, 2006 4:12 PM

GEEZER

Keep the Shiny side up

Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
sorry, this is the sort of dictatorial position that I thought we had killed already.

1. people have the right not to take part in this charade which pretends to be a democracy. The voting machines have already decided the winner. it makes no difference how we vote.

Write in "None of the above".

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Monday, October 30, 2006 4:22 PM

PENGUIN

Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Write in "None of the above".

I really wish that were an option. I have always voted, however, I am almost at the end of my rope. The only choice we have these days is the flavor. All politicians are crooks. The only difference between the Reps and Dems are where they want to spend our money. More for them, less for us.
Bitter? You bet your ass I am...

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Monday, October 30, 2006 4:24 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Quote:
Originally posted by kaneman:
Let's all vote. And lets make FMF(or SMF..for you Twisted Sister fans[shame on you]) happy and vote DEMOCRATIC...WHOOT!!!!

Would that you do so Kaneman. If only for the Bush Gods to reign Hellfire and brimstone at you and put you out of everyones misery!

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Bestower of Titles, Designer of Tshirts, Maker of Mottos, Keeper of the Pyre

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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Monday, October 30, 2006 4:25 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Quote:
Originally posted by Penguin:
Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
Write in "None of the above".

I really wish that were an option. I have always voted, however, I am almost at the end of my rope. The only choice we have these days is the flavor. All politicians are crooks. The only difference between the Reps and Dems are where they want to spend our money. More for them, less for us.
Bitter? You bet your ass I am...

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

I need a King Penguin for Prez sign......HINT.......notsosubtleHINT

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Bestower of Titles, Designer of Tshirts, Maker of Mottos, Keeper of the Pyre

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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Monday, October 30, 2006 4:26 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
sorry, this is the sort of dictatorial position that I thought we had killed already.

1. people have the right not to take part in this charade which pretends to be a democracy. The voting machines have already decided the winner. it makes no difference how we vote.

2. The truly good candidates are removed by hook or by crook, preventing me from being able to vote for either Pirro or McFarland for senate. I can write them in, but so what? So I should have to endorse one of the remaining candidates?

3. As Heinlein said, only a fool votes and thinks that this gives him an equal say in democracy, your amount of political influence is porportional to the effort you put into it.

4. My election will be sweeped by mediocre democrats, not even decent ones. nothing i do is going to change that.

Sure, i'll vote, but I just wanted to say, this illusion of a say is absurd.

It ain't the voting machines that decide. Its the electoral college.

And more power to the mediocre Democrats. Because even that would be better than what we have now.

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Bestower of Titles, Designer of Tshirts, Maker of Mottos, Keeper of the Pyre

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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Monday, October 30, 2006 4:30 PM

ZISKER

There's always the Green Party. Especially at the grassroots level.

If you can't do something smart, do something right.

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Monday, October 30, 2006 4:34 PM

KANEMAN

Where's Waldo..er...Perot?

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Monday, October 30, 2006 4:35 PM

PENGUIN

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:

I need a King Penguin for Prez sign......HINT.......notsosubtleHINT

Yes, dear!

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

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Monday, October 30, 2006 4:40 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Quote:
Originally posted by Penguin:
Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:

I need a King Penguin for Prez sign......HINT.......notsosubtleHINT

Yes, dear!

King of the Mythical Land that is Iowa

YAY

*FMF jumps up and down in delight*

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Bestower of Titles, Designer of Tshirts, Maker of Mottos, Keeper of the Pyre

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

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Monday, October 30, 2006 7:19 PM

DREAMTROVE

Geezer,

good idea.

I was thinking of voting republican anyway, even though the good candidates were weeded out and I know there's no chance of winning. So all I have left is a couple of openly pro-Bush republicans doing 20s and 30s in the polls. Faso seem like a good guy, but has no more chance of winning than the others.

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Monday, October 30, 2006 7:20 PM

DREAMTROVE

FMF

no, it wouldn't.

think clinton. think a clinton step worse than bush sr., only that size step worse than bush jr.

in terms of total death, alone that's a frightening thought.

The only real election is the primary. if dems put up russ feingold in o8 i'll vote for them. if they put up a clinton, i won't.

Zisker,

sometimes i vote for the greens. they're loons, and socialists, and i disagree with about 2/3 of what they say. Malachy is a loon. but at least he has a cool accent. But i'd like a sane candidate who actually has a plan to bring peace and prosperity, and some chance of getting elected. I don't think the greens fit the bill on any of those, but if i really get annoyed i might pull that level anyways.

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Monday, October 30, 2006 11:55 PM

ZISKER

We must be aware of very different candidates. But at least the Greens haven't proven to be rampant hypocrites with solely self-serving agendas once they get into office.

If you can't do something smart, do something right.

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Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:31 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT

Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:

3. As Heinlein said, only a fool votes and thinks that this gives him an equal say in democracy, your amount of political influence is porportional to the effort you put into it.

Where or when did RAH say that? Thought I was a fan ans had read 'most every word he had written...

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Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:28 AM

FELLOWTRAVELER

RE: Shut up and vote

If they'll let you...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/30/AR2006
103001393.html

"Voters Challenged in NY State Race"

Quote:
WHITE PLAINS, N.Y. - Before Election Day has even arrived, Republicans in one New York state Senate district have started challenging the right of some registered voters to cast ballots...

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Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:31 AM

CITIZEN

Quote:
Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
There is a lot of discussion about the state of this country and a lot of name calling and arguments. It all comes down to one thing. On voting day, go to your local polling place and VOTE. It you don't vote then you have no right to complain.

I don't get to vote for your government but I get affected by their f**ked up decisions.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Tuesday, October 31, 2006 3:46 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Hey, why am I supposed to shut up first? I intend to do both- I'll be yakking all the way up to 100 yards of the polling place.

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I want bread AND roses!

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Tuesday, October 31, 2006 6:45 PM

DREAMTROVE

zisker,

The greens have some internal corruption issues. They need to stop viewing the democrats as preferrable to republicans before their party heads will get seriously behind the idea of winning. If you're a third party, you can't take sides, or you'll end up caving when it looks like you're going to cause your side to lose. That's what happened to the greens in '04.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 2:14 AM

ZISKER

Hence the quanifier "grassroots level".

As for taking sides as a third party - sure you can. It's called pragmatism.

If you can't do something smart, do something right.

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 6:49 AM

ARCLIGHT

In Texas this year we actually got a choice.
Kinky Friedman for Guv'ner!!
GO KINKY GO!!

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 6:59 AM

TPAGE

Seems to me the time is ripe for a revolution! Viva la revolution!

Up the ____ (pick a name)! Down the Loyal Americans!

But remember ... A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having!

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Wednesday, November 1, 2006 12:03 PM

DREAMTROVE

zisker, sure, but it's never going to win. This is imho why ross perot got the closest of anyone in recent years, his screw 'em both attitude, which i think is something americans often feel

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Friday, November 3, 2006 7:25 PM

CENTURY22

Oh so tired of the advertisments.

I can't wait till it's over.

You can't stop the signal.

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Wednesday, November 8, 2006 5:32 PM

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Quote:
Originally posted by kaneman:
Let's all vote. And lets make FMF(or SMF..for you Twisted Sister fans[shame on you]) happy and vote DEMOCRATIC...WHOOT!!!!

Thats very kind of you Kaneman. I am a happy "Blue" girl today!

----
Bestower of Titles, Designer of Tshirts, Maker of Mottos, Keeper of the Pyre

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

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Wednesday, November 8, 2006 6:34 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Nobody voted on Nov 7. The results were predecided, then rubberstamped by computer hackers at 90% of (s)election commissions.

That's why CanniBill Frist voluntarily quit as speaker of the US senate, to run his family business HCA, that paid an $840-MILLION criminal fine for Medicare fraud.

Mafia Mayor Sir Rudy "I Bombed WTC 7" Giuliani Homosexual Transvestitie Knight of the British Empire telephoned my house yesterday, to tell me to vote for Frist's replacement Mayor Bob "I Hire Illegal Alien Terrorists And Ignored 35,000 911 Calls" Corker (R-TN).

VIDEO: Hacking Democracy (HBO)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8367786376074634512&sourceid=d
ocidfeed&hl=en

"You can't stop the signal!"
-Mr Universe, Pirate TV

FIREFLY SERENITY PILOT MUSIC VIDEO V2
Tangerine Dream - Thief Soundtrack: Confrontation
http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/03/8912.php
www.myspace.com/piratenewsctv
www.piratenews.org

Does that seem right to you?
www.scifi.com/onair/

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Wednesday, November 8, 2006 6:36 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!

Does that seem right to you?
www.scifi.com/onair/

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