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The India / China / Russia program will likely get there first, they seem a bit more serious.

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Don't hold yer breath. Proposed date is 2020.

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"How are we going to get to the Moon when we can't even talk between two buildings? I can't hear a word you're saying!"
-Gus Grissom, Apollo 1, famous last words before he and his crew were burned alive on the launch pad during a "routine" test (11 Apollo astros died violent deaths ON EARTH during Apollo program)

"And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name APPOLLyOn. This is the great dragon of chapter 12, Satan or Azazel. He has a number of names, but in each case, he is the king of all the demons, Lucifer, who became Satan."
-Revelation 9:11, Christian Bible (KJV with Forerunner Commentary)

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
The India / China / Russia program will likely get there first, they seem a bit more serious.

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Originally posted by RocketJock:
Oh good, PN posted in with that whimsical sense of humor that is only his. But he doesn't go far enough: We not only didn't land on the moon, Columbus never reached America! Yep, that's right, the whole thing was faked to euchre money out of Ferdinand and Isabella. At this moment we're actually all living in a huge sound stage just outside of Barcelona, kinda like The Truman Show.

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Originally posted by piratenews:
blasted off from The Moon (without using any rocket exhaust), and returned safely to Earth, without radiation poisoning?

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"I am not a crook!"
-President Tricky Dick Nixon, Apolloscam felon pardoned by unelected President Gerald Ford (aka pedophile Michigan Mafia porn king Leslie Lynch King Jr, born in Omaha Nebraska, home of Franklin Coverup and Satanic CIA snuff kiddie porn narco gang, run by homosexual pedophile serial killer mass murderer and narcoterrorist bomber Sir George Bush Sr Knight of the BRITISH Empire, part of CIA MKULTRA Project Monarch mind-kontrol slave program - AKA River Tam)

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One giant blunder for mankind: how NASA lost moon pictures

Richard Macey
Sydney Morning Herald
August 5, 2006

THE heart-stopping moments when Neil Armstrong took his first tentative steps onto another world are defining images of the 20th century: grainy, fuzzy, unforgettable.

But just 37 years after Apollo 11, it is feared the magnetic tapes that recorded the first moon walk - beamed to the world via three tracking stations, including Parkes's famous "Dish" - have gone missing at NASA's Goddard Space Centre in Maryland.

A desperate search has begun amid concerns the tapes will disintegrate to dust before they can be found.

It is not widely known that the Apollo 11 television broadcast from the moon was a high-quality transmission, far sharper than the blurry version relayed instantly to the world on that July day in 1969.

Among those battling to unscramble the mystery is John Sarkissian, a CSIRO scientist stationed at Parkes for a decade. "We are working on the assumption they still exist," Mr Sarkissian told the Herald.

"Your guess is a good as mine as to where they are."

Mr Sarkissian began researching the role of Parkes in Apollo 11's mission in 1997, before the movie The Dish was made. However, when he later contacted NASA colleagues to ask about the tapes, they could not be found.

"People may have thought 'we have tapes of the moon walk, we don't need these'," said the scientist who hopes a new, intensive hunt will locate them.

If they can be found, he proposes making digitalised copies to treat the world to a very different view of history.

But the searchers may be running out of time. The only known equipment on which the original analogue tapes can be decoded is at a Goddard centre set to close in October, raising fears that even if they are found before they deteriorate, copying them may be impossible.

"We want the public to see it the way the moon walk was meant to be seen," Mr Sarkissian said.

"There will only ever be one first moon walk."

Originally stored at Goddard, the tapes were moved in 1970 to the US National Archives. No one knows why, but in 1984 about 700 boxes of space flight tapes there were returned to Goddard.

"We have the documents to say they were withdrawn, but no one knows exactly where they went," Mr Sarkissian said.

Many people involved had retired or died.

Also among tapes feared missing are the original recordings of the other five Apollo moon landings. The format used by the original pictures beamed from the moon was not compatible with commercial technology used by television networks. So the images received at Parkes, and at tracking stations near Canberra and in California, were played on screens mounted in front of conventional television cameras.

"The quality of what you saw on TV at home was substantially degraded" in the process, Mr Sarkissian said, creating the ghostly images of Armstrong and Aldrin that strained the eyes of hundreds of millions of people watching around the world.

Even Polaroid photographs of the screen that showed the original images received by Parkes are significantly sharper than what the public saw. While the technique looks primitive today, Mr Sarkissian said it was the best solution that 1969 technology offered.

Among the few who saw the original high-quality broadcast was David Cooke, a Parkes control room engineer in 1969.

"I can still see the screen," Mr Cook, 74, said. "I was amazed, the quality was fairly good."

www.smh.com.au/news/national/one-giant-blunder-for-mankind-how-nasa-lo
st-moon-pictures/2006/08/04/1154198328978.html


www.geocities.com/apolloreality2/

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Abbie Bernstein:

Do you believe a government can be shamed into or out of what it's doing by the actions of individuals?

Joss Whedon:

The idea was to say that people can make a difference, they can show the wrongs that are being done. They can speak out against them and make people aware of them. They can even create giant scandals. Sometimes they can topple governments. The point is that the truth is always more important than the power structure, and whether you make a dent or not, the fact that you succeeded in trying is a victory.

-Serenity - The Official Visual Companion

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
You're not addressing my points directly, Pirate.

Moon garbage proves Chrisisall correct

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"A 'con man', a 'confidence man', is the best-dressed, the best-spoken. He has to be since his intention is to separate you from your money, from your freedom. This is his 'M.O.' - his modus operandi. Our representatives in Washington DC remind me of the best conmen. This is a lesson we all have to learn."
-Detective Frank Serpico NYPD, GCN Radio Network, 2002
www.ThePowerHour.com
wwwGCNlive.com

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
You're not addressing my points directly, Pirate.

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Originally posted by piratenews:

You make no points to address. You provide zero scientific references for your unproven assertions. You are playing air guitar.

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You are claiming Uncle Scam has never told a lie

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You're not addressing my points directly, Pirate.

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HAH! Thats the funniest line I've read in a while.

If we never landed on the moon...where did we get all the moonrocks, or learn to do moonsaults, or Michael Jackson, or former Houston Oilers quarterback Warren Moon?

Bet he has no answer to those questions...

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Is there intelligent life on planet Earth? BLUE SKY on "mars" set proves NASA is faking it again. How can NASA parachute rockets on Mars which has almost no atmosphere? How come the "Mars Rover" never runs out of electricity when solar power is so weak, and never tips over during Martian hurricanes?

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Originally posted by piratenews:
If NASA does have any real Moon rocks, that's where they got them.

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If NASA does have any real Moon rocks, that's where they got them.

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Ahem...waiting here.
What about the crap we left up there visible with telescopes...let's have an answer, eh?

Pressing Chrisisall

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Give him time. It takes a while to compose something that unintelligible. And he needs to find 13 or 14 pics to add to the post as well.

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Originally posted by citizen:
Not more pictures of martian children being sodamised by George Bash Knight of the Nazi-Jew Empire

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Give him time. It takes a while to compose something that unintelligible. And he needs to find 13 or 14 pics to add to the post as well.

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Originally posted by citizen:
You stupid American! Can you not see that the government merely put tiny models on every telescope so that it looks like they are on the Moon.

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More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Originally posted by citizen:
You stupid American! Can you not see that the government merely put tiny models on every telescope so that it looks like they are on the Moon.

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you should have called up "sheeple", in order to complete the scene.

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
a back lot in southern NJ

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
With this announcement and the 'finding' of possible liquid water on Mars, I wonder if this isn't just an attempt by the folks at NASA to appeal to the new power base in Washington D.C. I'm all in favor for it, it's been too long. But I doubt very much that NASA will find any sympathy w/ the "socially" minded Democrats. The vision of John F. Kennedy, they don't have.

People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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I'm all in favor for it, it's been too long.

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
I understand that BOTH the Moon and the Mars landing were really in "Iowa" (read that as a back lot in southern NJ)

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For someone who is not a Democrat, you sure seem to think you can read our minds.

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If NASA does have any real Moon rocks, that's where they got them.

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What about the crap we left up there visible with telescopes...let's have an answer, eh?

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Lasers just reflect off the Moon surface, and the Russians claim to have landed their Lunar Rover Robot with a much larger mirror than NASA claims to have deployed.

As proven by every Lunar Orbiter spacebot, even low-altitude hi-res photography CANNOT find any evidence of apollo spacejunk, even tho the Lunar Landers were covered in gold-plated ALCOA aluminum foil.

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Look Ma - NO ROCKET EXHAUST!

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Originally posted by piratenews:

Russia allegedly landed its Lunar Lander robot with a giant mirror, and radio can reflect off the Moon surface, without a mirror, so NASA doesn't need to have deployed a mirror in The Moon to shoot a laser.

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Yeah, rockets fire just like a gun - one big pop and then you coast all the way home, JUST LIKE THE ROCKETS TAKING OFF FROM EARTH IN SERENITY THE BDM. Major OD of propaganda BS, Joss...

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Russia allegedly landed its Lunar Lander robot with a giant mirror, and radio can reflect off the Moon surface, without a mirror, so NASA doesn't need to have deployed a mirror in The Moon to shoot a laser.

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So, RADIO can reflect off the Lunar surface...how does that have anything to do with lasers??? Nice 50 year old picture of yellow dots, btw.

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Yeah, rockets fire just like a gun - one big pop and then you coast all the way home, JUST LIKE THE ROCKETS TAKING OFF FROM EARTH IN SERENITY THE BDM. Major OD of propaganda BS, Joss...

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Every object in a state of uniform motion tends to remain in that state of motion unless an external force is applied to it.

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I doubt the Commies landed even a robot on The Moon, since its impossible to decellerate then control any rocket lander using side thruster rockets, as proven by NASA on Earth. There are no photos of any Commie Lunar Lander on The Moon. There are several splattered Lunar rockets crashed into the surface of The Moon, but no photos of the wreckage.

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Originally posted by piratenews:

No, that's a 10-year-old photo by NASA's latest Lunar Orbiter, decades after Apollo, which proves conclusively-

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